Taliban say no decision yet on Karzai offer of talks

Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown (2nd L) shakes hands with Foreign Secretary David Miliband (2nd R) as they and United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon (L), and Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai leave the stage at the end of the opening session of the 'Afghanistan: The London Conference' in central London, January 28, 2010. REUTERS/Matt Dunham/Pool

Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown (2nd L) shakes hands with Foreign Secretary David Miliband (2nd R) as they and United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon (L), and Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai leave the stage at the end of the opening session of the 'Afghanistan: The London Conference' in central London, January 28, 2010.

Credit: Reuters/Matt Dunham/Pool

KABUL/LASHKAR GAH | Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:26pm EST

KABUL/LASHKAR GAH (Reuters) - Taliban leaders have no immediate answer to President Hamid Karzai's offer of talks with the Afghan government but will respond soon, a militant spokesman said on Friday, after Karzai invited them to a peace council.

In the country's south, suicide attackers launched an assault in the capital of Helmand, Afghanistan's most violent province, with gunmen holed up in three buildings, battling government and NATO troops who returned fire with helicopter strikes.

When the fighting stopped before dusk a Reuters reporter at the scene saw the bullet-riddled bodies of four gunmen dragged out of a building by Afghan troops and displayed in the street. Two of the dead gunmen wore police uniforms.

On Thursday, at a major conference on Afghanistan, Karzai set the framework for dialogue with Taliban leaders when he called on the Islamist group's leadership to take part in a "loya jirga" -- or large assembly of elders -- to initiate peace talks.

A Taliban spokesman in Afghanistan declined to talk in detail about Karzai's plans and only said the militants would make a decision "soon" about his offer.

"I cannot say a word regarding these peace talks. The Taliban leadership will soon decide whether to take part," the spokesman, who uses the name Qari Mohammad Yousuf, said by telephone from an undisclosed location.

Western countries have increasingly been supportive in public of moves to reach out to fighters to end the 8-year-old war. In an interview in the Financial Times earlier this week, the military commander of U.S. and NATO troops, General Stanley McChrystal, backed talking to some Taliban members.

The Taliban however have said repeatedly that negotiations with the Afghan government should only take place when foreign troops completely withdraw from Afghanistan.

In a statement issued during Thursday's conference, the militants mocked McChrystal's interview as evidence of Western military defeat and "psychological disease", and repeated a longstanding rejection of any deal that included asylum abroad.

"The invaders think that the committed Mujahideen of Afghanistan are like their mercenary soldiers who lost their lives in mountains and deserts of Afghanistan for obtainment of a few dollars," said the statement, posted in English at Taliban website alemarah.info.

"The fundamental solution of the tragedy of Afghanistan lies in withdrawal of the invading forces from Afghanistan."

Nonetheless, in what U.S. officials called an encouraging sign, a big Pashtun tribe in east Afghanistan, the Shinwari, announced it would help the Afghan government fight the Taliban.

The tribe's head, Malek Osman, said he would impose a fine on anyone in his district who worked with the Taliban, and urged one man of fighting age from each family to join the army or police.

SHIFT IN TONE, NOT POLICY

Karzai's endorsement of talks in London does not represent a change of policy: he announced last year he planned to invite Taliban leaders to the peace conference, and has repeatedly emphasized his hope they would join talks.

Previous contacts between the government and Taliban representatives have made little progress, and many regional experts say the Taliban are unlikely to offer concessions while they feel they are winning the war.

An Afghan government mediator told Reuters this week the Taliban are also likely to demand the release of prisoners and the removal of Taliban leaders from blacklists, something U.S. officials have said is out of the question.

Nevertheless, the government in Kabul and its Western backers have increasingly signaled their hope for a negotiated end to an 8-year-old war that has no pure military solution.

A United Nations official told Reuters on Thursday the U.N. envoy to Afghanistan, Kai Eide, had met representatives of the Taliban leadership in Dubai on January 8. Eide told Britain's BBC no meeting took place that day, but he would not discuss meetings that might have happened on other dates.

Eide is due to leave his post soon, and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton played down his role on Friday: "I will let him speak for himself. He's not going to be part of our efforts going forward," she told reporters in Paris.

Friday's attack in Helmand's capital, Lashkar Gah, followed an increasingly common pattern of fighters launching commando-style raids in small bands and seizing buildings in towns throughout the south and east as well as the capital Kabul.

Afghan authorities said two suicide bombers blew themselves up, wounding four policemen, and gunmen later spent the day holed up in a commercial building repelling a siege with heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, before they were overpowered.

"Five attackers were killed by Afghan security forces and the operation is now over," Afghan Army General Sher Mohammad Zazai told Reuters near nightfall. Full details of other casualties were not immediately released.

NATO spokesman Lieutenant Nico Melendez said international forces had provided backup with attack helicopters.

Taliban spokesman Yousuf said seven suicide bombers were involved in the attack at three sites in the city. Helmand has seen the heaviest fighting of the war, with about 20,000 foreign troops, roughly half British and half American.

Some 110,000 troops are in Afghanistan, including 70,000 Americans, struggling to turn the tide on an insurgency which killed record numbers of civilians and foreign troops in 2009.

U.S. President Barack Obama has said U.S. troops will start withdrawing from Afghanistan in July 2011, and Karzai has said Afghan security forces will be prepared to start taking over security in some provinces a few months earlier. (Additional reporting by Golnar Motevalli and Jonathon Burch in KABUL, Ismail Sameem in KANDAHAR, Abdul Malek in LASHKAR GAH, Mohammad Rafiq in JALALABAD and Andrew Quinn in PARIS; Writing by Golnar Motevalli and Peter Graff; Editing by Charles Dick)

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Comments (3)
Hellfire1 wrote:
This has to be a really desperate measure. The Taliban will surely take the money offered and later regroup using this money to buy weapons and fighters to use against our troops. What mental midget came up with this useless proposition. Do we want to defeat the Taliban or fund their cause?

Jan 29, 2010 5:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TrevorC wrote:
The Taliban are fanatics and unfortunately history has shown that you cannot reason with fanatics. Taking a look at hard line Christians should prove this. The Taliban will settle for nothing less than 100% of their own way. As I see it, there is only two options for the problem. Either beat the Taliban completely (which I do not think is possible) or get out of Afghanistan and leave them to it, and then they will spread to other countries. Religion is a terrible thing when taken to extremes, as the inquisition proved.

Jan 29, 2010 5:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
A British BBC journalist recently went to an Afghanistan village meeting place to ascertain the feelings of the local population to the notion of money for peace. After a comment about an infidel being in the room an Afghanistan man stated the obvious ‘This is about religion.’

Given the religious text which is the basis for the grievous harm being visited upon non-adherents both inside Afghanistan and outside is not to change such an approach, other than supplying the Taliban with a possible extra lucrative source of funds, has no hope of stopping the violence.

Such an approach will in fact perpetuate the violence. Unless the text upon which the reason for violence is justified is discredited in the eyes of the ordinary believer in the villages of Afghanistan mass murder of infidels and others will continue as it has for centuries.

Obama we are not dealing with rational men in the Taliban only calculating ones. This is in the long term a fight between two incompatible ideologies one for the relative independence of a citizen and the other subservience of the citizen in all things to a singular text based on a brutal cultural framework from antiquity.

Wake up Obama no commonality of purpose exists unless it is to be expediency in the short term. The American general is right there has been too much war, there always is, but if it has not been won either what is the point of rewarding the perpetrators when they have no intention of changing their objectives or methods.

However feel good it may be in the first instance – believing as we do in the inherent rationality of humanity – the brutality of Taliban violence will simply be reinvigorated in the future thanks to certain policy makers misunderstanding what this conflict is about at its core – the retention of a draconian religious societal framework.

It is this religious framework which requires discrediting and replacing with a viable alternative to the Taliban model. Simply handing resources to the Taliban will only enable them to reinforce the Taliban brand against the local population with the usual consequences for the West.

Jan 31, 2010 6:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
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