Chanos talks China, drops hints on bets

NEW YORK | Wed Mar 3, 2010 6:59pm EST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - For weeks now, short-seller James Chanos has been telling anyone who will listen that China is sitting on a huge property bubble that's going to eventually burst.

But Chanos concedes it could take a quite a while for him and his investors to cash-in on related bearish bets that his New York-based Kynikos Associates is making on companies that supply the raw materials that are fueling China's high-rise building boom.

"It could take three or four years to play out," said Chanos at the Reuters Private Equity and Hedge Funds Summit in New York.

Chanos would not comment on specific company stocks that Kynikos is shorting, or betting against, as part of his hedge fund's big, thematic China play. But he did drop some hints.

The hedge fund manager, who may be most famous for his bear call on Enron, said if China's property bubble eventually bursts it could be bad news for some companies in Brazil, Australia and Canada. Chanos said companies based in those countries are some of the biggest suppliers of raw materials to China.

When asked if he meant companies like Rio Tinto (RIO.AX) or BHP Billiton (BHP.AX), Chanos said "you're heading down the right track." But he declined to be any more specific.

Chanos pointed out that there are not many Chinese stocks that can be shorted directly. And Kynikos, as a general rule, doesn't short currencies or sovereign debt.

He said his fund came to its bearish view on China last summer after spending time researching some mining stocks. He said the fund's research began to crystallize during the fall.

"We weren't the first on this call," he said.

But Chanos said most hedge funds and institutional investors did not begin to pay attention until he began going public with his view late last year.

(Reporting by Matthew Goldstein; Editing by Phil Berlowitz)

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Comments (6)
Fishrl wrote:
This is China we’re talking about. I wouldn’t take the bet.

Mar 04, 2010 11:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
blahhhhhh wrote:
If you spent the last few years in China and traveled around, you would know that there are still massive building projects right next to finished projects that are completely empty. One of my friends lives in a building complex in south east beijing, and half the apartments are empty. where he lived before that, the mall next to him was completely empty. Where i work in Beijing, there is a mall that is a big joke, because there are no stores in it except for on the first floor. The sad thing is that there are four or five floors in the mall. They are still building others next to it. If this isn’t a bubble, I don’t know what is. Foreign companies investing in China now are going to lose big time.

Mar 04, 2010 11:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
JulsMan wrote:
All short-sellers must hang! What is wrong with our system; when those who make huge amounts of wealth create little or no value. An economy of financial derivatives is not an economy at all … its just an abstract mathematical models.

Mar 04, 2010 12:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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