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SAN FRANCISCO | Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:13pm EDT

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Same sex weddings would not harm traditional marriages and California voters had no good reasons to ban them, a lawyer said on Wednesday at the end of a six-month trial likely headed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Lawyers made their final appeals to District Court Chief Judge Vaughn Walker. His ruling, expected in a few weeks, is likely to be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court. If it took the case, the high court's ruling would determine the fate of same sex marriage bans in most U.S. states.

California voters approved the ban in 2008. The case against is being argued by conservative jurist Ted Olson, who served as U.S. solicitor general under former President George W. Bush, and David Boies, his adversary in the 2000 Supreme Court decision that put Bush in the White House.

Allowing same sex marriage would do nothing to prevent heterosexuals from continuing to marry and would in fact heighten the institution's value and reputation, Olson told the court on Wednesday.

"Eliminating invidious restrictions on marriage strengthens the institution of marriage," he said.

Throughout the case, Olson and Boies have argued that the ban on gay marriage discriminates against one segment of the population by denying them the fundamental right to marry.

Earlier this month, Walker presented both sides with a long list of questions, including whether there was a good reason, or rational basis, to maintain marriage exclusively for opposite-sex couples.

He interrupted Olson's closing statement, asking whether the debate itself did not prove that there was a good argument to stop gay marriage.

"It has to be a debatable proposition, not that there is debate about the proposition," Olson shot back. Citizens could discriminate in their daily lives but could not put that view into law, he said, arguing that fear and hatred had motivated voters in the 2008 referendum.

Some gay advocates opposed challenging the ban in federal court, fearing that even if they win this round, they are likely to lose in the conservative Supreme Court, setting back their agenda for years.

Opponents of the ban called numerous expert witnesses who argued that same-sex couples who marry grow healthier and wealthier, their children are better off, and that the state benefits from the expanded definition of marriage.

Charles Cooper, the leading lawyer defending the ban, believes allowing gays to marry would make heterosexual men more likely to abandon their wives and children.

"These changes are likely to reduce the willingness of biological parents, especially fathers, to make the commitments and sacrifices necessary to marry, stay married, and play an active role in raising their children," Cooper wrote in a brief ahead answering questions from Walker.

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Comments (13)
Brody2some wrote:
The defenders of Prop 8 state that same-sex marriage rob’s opposite sex marriage of “special encouragement”. From what I have heard and seen, they (Prop 8 Defenders) are saying we want special rights. Now, they are saying we are taking away their special rights. They are grabbing at a frayed rope. The closing paragraph is also, hogwash. Why would other peoples lives have an effect on others commitments, and sacrifices? The only thing that will change is that the state gets more money via the clerk of the court. The current “status quo” has parents divorcing, not having an active role in child rearing.

This is a case of bigotry, and hatred, the white elephant in the room, just passed gas, and it smells like hatred.

Jun 16, 2010 10:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
The argument made by Cooper, defending Prop 8 and the ban on gay marriage, is ridiculous. How is it that two people getting married, same-sex or otherwise, affect another couples willingness to hold the vows of marriage with each other?

This argument is easily applied to situations not involving same-sex couples. Maybe Cooper can argue that you have to be a certain age and race to get married… just in case may affect another couple’s “willingness” to make the same commitments and sacrifices any other married couple would have make.

Jun 16, 2010 10:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
jqcitizen wrote:
I will probably take a lot of heat for this but that’s okay I won’t be taking it for eternity. Scripture establishes that marriage is between a man and a woman and no other variation. I’m sure that someone will jump on the separation of church and state bandwagon but it is not in the constitution and God is a higher authority in any event. Cultural acceptability does not change the truth of Scripture. Scripture norms culture, not the other way around.

Jun 16, 2010 11:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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