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MADISON, Wisconsin | Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:55pm EST

MADISON, Wisconsin (Reuters) - Supporters of legislation to reduce public employee union bargaining power and benefits in Wisconsin were far outnumbered by opponents on Saturday, as the two sides shouted competing slogans under clear skies.

Tens of thousands have demonstrated throughout the week against Republican Governor Scott Walker's proposals, which supporters say are necessary to bring state spending under control and opponents contend are aimed at breaking the back of state worker unions.

Both sides drew thousands on Saturday, but opponents appeared to have several times as many on hand as those attending a rally backed by Tea Party groups, the first such demonstration this week.

The bill's opponents marched counter-clockwise around the State Capitol, encircling its supporters, and chanted "kill the bill" among other slogans.

The supporters countered with "Recall them all," referring to Democratic state senators who fled to Illinois last week to avoid giving Republicans the quorum needed to consider the proposal.

"I've been working in a factory for 26 years. We pay 15 percent for the cost of our health care. The state workers get Cadillac insurance and pensions. They have no god-given right to collective bargaining," said bill supporter Anthony Thelen, 46, who works in a non-union factory outside of Milwaukee.

In addition to sharply curtailing union bargaining power, the Republican legislation would make state workers contribute more to health insurance and pensions.

"I'm so excited that you people have come out to support Governor Walker. In an era of irresponsible government he is doing the right thing," Ned Ryun, President of the American Majority, a sponsor of the rally, told the crowd.

Although there had been fear of a clash, the atmosphere was generally peaceful and friendly, with organizers on both sides urging followers to be courteous and police needing to do little but stand by.

Margaret Derr, high school math teacher and union member, said she didn't dislike the governor personally.

"I'm just opposed to the bill. I have no problem contributing more to my healthcare and pension. I understand about the deficit, but some of the proposals are just about union busting."

Regarding the supporters' rally, she said: "I believe in free speech. This is what democracy is about, everybody being heard."

While the weather was cold, as of early afternoon snow and freezing rain forecast for the day had failed to materialize.

(Reporting by James Kelleher; Editing by Jerry Norton)

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RossArcher wrote:
The heavily-funded Tea Party movement is “greatly outnumbered” by the ordinary rank-and-file people protesting to stop this naked union busting activity. (It is about union busting, not reducing costs, because concessions were offered and rejected.)

There is a profound lesson in this that should never be forgotten: Corporations and wealth have great power, but the people have the numbers.

As we’ve already seen in Tunisia, Egypt:
The power of a large number of activated and determined people, willing to be visible and outspoken, may well be the most powerful force in human affairs, if they simply refuse to back down.

In a world where working people are recognizing the attitude of management that their employees are “resources” to “utilize”, it’s about time working people remind them and their shareholders who actually produces the profits they enjoy.

Feb 19, 2011 5:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
minuteman wrote:
Obama’s socialist activitism for unions has proven he is only in the White House for the purpose of initiating his “new order” and he has to have the unions to back the socialist agenda.

Union bosses only collect union members dues to keep the high standard to which they are accustom to living. When the war chest is needed there is never enough money to support union actions. Too, union trust funds are corruptly mismanaged to the point that they cannot sustain themselves. Congress should be investigating union corruption and Obama should keep his butt out of the Wisconsin budget affairs of that state. Obama isn’t interested in balancing the fed’s budget, in fact, they didn’t even pass a budget under Reid/Pelosi. Not ever having held a position of responsibility where budgets are concerned, Obama is not qualified to mess around with state budgets. His unions are the basis of all social ills confronting states and their ability to pay their bills. Public Service personnel should not be in unions in any form in any government in the US. I support Gov. Walker in his constitutional obligation to reduce spending in his state. Now he needs to start firing the teachers who are now illegal workers for having struck.

Feb 19, 2011 6:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dsw wrote:
“Apparently” outnumbered? I was on the square, walked completely around it. The Kill the Bill demonstrators overran the Tea Party activists by probably 50:1. The counter demo was hardly visible because there were so many angry, jubilant pro-worker, pro-immigrant, pro-education demonstrators. The Tea Party gathering (which was enthusiastic, but small-maybe a thousand, two at the most?) couldn’t even fill one corner of the interior square, no kidding.

And if you want the story of how the demonstrations grew, here is a first hand narrative, from before the national media took notice.

http://prop-press.typepad.com/blog/2011/02/report-from-day-five-first-chance-to-reflect.html

Feb 19, 2011 6:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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