Patients with do-not-resuscitate orders fare worse

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NEW YORK | Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:19pm EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A new study could help people with a do-not-resuscitate order make better decisions about what surgeries they are willing to undergo.

About seven in 10 Americans die with such an order, which instructs healthcare workers not to use life-prolonging treatment if a patient's heart or breathing stops.

But other situations that aren't necessarily covered in the do-not-resuscitate, or DNR, orders may also be worth considering, researchers say.

The new report, out Monday in the Archives of Surgery, shows DNR patients have a higher chance of dying following surgery, although not with all kinds of procedures.

"The conversation that needs to be had between the patient and the doctor is, what is the greater goal, and what can you expect from having the surgery," said Dr. Saziana Roman, who worked on the study. "Are you likely to end up on a ventilator or in the intensive care unit, for instance?"

Roman, a surgeon at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut, and colleagues tapped into a large database of patients from more than 120 hospitals across the U.S.

They contrasted the surgical outcomes for some 4,000 DNR patients with age-matched patients who'd had the same procedure done but didn't have a DNR order.

Overall, nearly a fourth of the DNR patients died in the month following their surgery -- about three times as many as in the comparison group. That difference remained even after taking into account that DNR patients are usually sicker to begin with, Roman said, although the reasons aren't clear.

DNR patients also had slightly more complications, such as pneumonia or stroke.

But the outcomes depended on the type of surgery. For instance, half the DNR patients having a kind of abdominal surgery called exploratory laparotomy died within a month of the surgery, compared to one in five of the patients without the order.

"We can now say 'look, you have a really high chance of dying, do you even want to go through this?'" Roman told Reuters Health, adding that the patient might prefer pain medication such as morphine to surgery.

For thighbone fracture repair or appendectomies, on the other hand, there was no difference between the two patient groups.

"In U.S. there is a tendency to be afraid to talk about dying, and we are trained to value life above anything else," Roman said. "Sometimes that might actually be detrimental."

SOURCE: bit.ly/elNOpI Archives of Surgery, online April 18, 2011.

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Comments (3)
homey123 wrote:
Surgeons are always in a bind with the DNR issue, especially with the emotion that accompanies patients with emergency conditions. I wrote about precisely this problem recently at http://porteronsurg.blogspot.com
Discussing surgery as part of end-of-life discussions will save families and surgeons great heartbreak and preserve valuable resources.

Apr 18, 2011 7:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
lemonfemale wrote:
Using this statistic to talk about forgoing even more treatments will make the problem worse, not better. Once my father in law was judged terminal, the whole atmosphere at his hospital changed. They wanted him out of there ASAP. See also MAKING ROUNDS WITH OSCAR where the author was always eager to “have the conversation” about letting a nursing home patient die. DNR is code for “Do Not Bother.” There are plenty of doctors who feel that some patients, especially terminal ones are not worth the bother. Which is why they die more often. In your doctor, even more than in your employee, you want someone committed to you rather than someone who is just putting in his eight.

Apr 19, 2011 3:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pconway wrote:
Even though I’m sure the study did try to take into account that DNR patients were sicker to begin with, the acceptance of one’s mortality and possible imminent death by signing a DNR may have put the patients in a mindset that “I’m going to die”. Perhaps the ‘fight’ was taken out of them–how does one quantify that? Also, does being “sicker”–5%, 10%, 20% sicker directly correlating with 5%, 10%, 20% more deaths?
My husband and I both told each other that if put on machines, when we did die we’d come back to haunt the other. My husband died about a week after 42 days in the hospital (mostly in intensive care)and an atrial valve re-replacement (a 2nd valve). His DNR did not play into his death as he accomplished what he wanted to do (get out of the hospital and go home!). In fact less than 10′ before his death we were in his doctors office being told how well he was doing, given lab slips, and told to come back the next week. The quality (not quantity) of the extra time he was given made it worth while for both of us. Not only did he know the risks and pain involved as this was the 2nd time he’d had to have the valve replaced, he’d put off the 1st surgery (~10 years earlier) as he was an RN in the Post Coronary Surgical ICU and knew EXACTLY what he was facing. He’d signed the DNR then too.
Paulette W. (Mrs. William W.) Conway
Fair Oaks, CA 95628

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