Missing credentials harm jobless veterans

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Jobseekers attend a ''Hiring our Heroes'' job fair aimed at out-of-work military veterans, sponsored by the Loudoun County Chamber of Commerce in Ashburn, Virginia, July 12, 2011. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

Jobseekers attend a ''Hiring our Heroes'' job fair aimed at out-of-work military veterans, sponsored by the Loudoun County Chamber of Commerce in Ashburn, Virginia, July 12, 2011.

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Army officer Donna Bachler has not had a regular paycheck since she left active duty four years ago, even though she boasts the kind of skills employers vie for.

Bachler, 30, helped run the Army's postal service in Kuwait, tackling challenges such as how to crack down on mailed contraband and speeding the flow of mail to troops.

Now back in the United States, she gets by on her husband's salary, which will be cut by more than half when he retires from the military as soon as next year.

"One of the ways I sold (military service) to myself and my parents is 'it looks good on a resume,'" said Bachler, who estimates she has applied for at least 1,000 jobs since 2007. "Sadly, it doesn't."

As U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan wind down, tens of thousands of veterans are flooding the job market at a time when millions of civilians cannot find jobs.

In June, unemployment among recent veterans grew to 13.3 percent, more than 4 percentage points higher than the national average.

From 2008 to 2010, that rate rose from 7.3 percent to 11.5 percent and it is expected to climb as more troops come home this year -- 10,000 from Afghanistan and, unless Iraq requests some to stay, the remaining 46,000 from that country.

"There is a sense of abandonment," said Daniel Nichols, former chief of staff for the Labor Department's Veteran Employment and Training Services (VETS). He is now director of Military to Medicine, which trains veterans and their spouses for jobs in healthcare.


Veterans, he said, think: "I served my country and provided all this, and come back and what do I have now? Maybe a lot of bad memories that I don't want and skills that nobody recognizes."

With veterans' unemployment rising, President Barack Obama is scheduled on Friday in a visit Washington's Navy Yard to announce measures to curb veteran unemployment.

In the tight job market, recent veterans say they are passed over for jobs not because they are unqualified but because they lack required credentials, a formal education or a way to describe their military skills that employers understand.

"I compare myself to civilians I know and I have had leadership opportunities -- making the hard choice -- that I don't see in my civilian counterparts," said David Nawrocki, a 30-year-old staff sergeant.

He ran an ammunition supply point in Afghanistan and, as a logistics coordinator in Washington, worked out ways to save the Army more than $1 million earlier this year.

"I don't know how to translate it into civilian terms," said Nawrocki, who joined the Army at 17 and has not finished college.

He has applied for 800 jobs since February and has had just one interview. His Army job in Washington ended this summer.

More than a dozen government programs aim to tackle veteran unemployment through job search courses, career centers, hiring fairs and grants for states and local agencies.

But many former military personnel say what they really need is a waiver from the often lengthy training process required to get jobs for which they are already effectively qualified.

The GI bill and some Pentagon programs reimburse vets for training and certification exams but the training itself can last weeks to several years.

"They tell us, 'We give you training you can use in the real world,'" Bachler said. "Really? It's real world training but the real world won't take it."

According to the Defense Department, 88 percent of military jobs have "direct civilian counterparts." But most states require veterans to retrain before they can take similar civilian positions.

According to the National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians, paramedic training takes about 18 months. Air traffic controllers must retrain for one to two months according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

"They come back from doing 24/7 medic work and can't even drive an ambulance," said Senator Patty Murray, a Democrat who is chairwoman of the Veteran Affairs committee.


Obama's Friday announcement will include a plan to appoint a task force to reform the training, education and credentialing of outgoing service members and give tax credits to firms that hire them.

The goal, according to a White House official who briefed reporters, is to create a "reverse boot camp" that gives more guidance to outgoing vets and ensures "that the transition to the civilian workforce reflects the military's promise of making sure that every member is career-ready by the time they leave."

Murray also proposed a bill in May to ease licensing requirements for veterans in five military jobs with civilian equivalents. U.S. Representative Jeff Miller proposed another, which focuses on five to 10 positions.

Nichols, the former chief of staff at VETS, is skeptical.

"They have studied those 10 MOS's since I was in there 10 years ago," said Nichols, using the acronym for "military occupational specialty."

One of the biggest hurdles to helping veterans is the abundance of government agencies that aim to do it, he said. Three federal departments handle veterans' issues and states set most of their own licensing requirements.

But six states have passed laws making it easier for veterans to get licenses, according to the House of Representatives Veterans Affairs Committee.

Labor Secretary Hilda Solis says her department is doing its part.

"We're committed to doing all that we can to help returning service members navigate their way through the difficult transition into the civilian work force," she said in an email.

She pointed to a new Labor Department program offering free certification training for young veterans. The Veterans Affairs and Defense departments offer others.

But the Pentagon acknowledges it needs to do more.

Ed Kringer, director of the Pentagon's State Liaison & Educational Opportunity Office, says the department is conducting a review of employment for people leaving the military.

"We have heard the concerns and are actively engaged in addressing them," Kringer said.

Bachler thinks the U.S. military should give civilian licensing tests to all recruits at the close of training, as the British Armed Forces do.

In Virginia, a frustrated Sergeant Nawrocki is starting an online training course in logistics -- even though he has 13 years' experience.

"I know I can do the job but I know employers don't understand that and want to see the certification," he said.

(Editing by Warren Strobel, Vicki Allen and Bill Trott)

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builder7 wrote:
Business does not respect ex-service members either. They do not respect Americans or people who served their country. They are hoarding all of their money that they are making, thanks to American productivity of its workers and its stability because of its troops for one thing. They will not invest in jobs or projects in this country because they can do both in foreign countries. I think that these businesses that are causing so much consternation to the people of this country would do better off in a country such as China, where they could be even richer because the prices are so cheap. Just think, if they had a billion, that would translate into 6 billion Chinese, so they could be even richer. They could just move there and we would be done with them, because, despite their insistence and our governments, which they own, that we need them. I don’t believe they are actually much help here because they have the factory in China and the office workers in the Philippines with a few workers here to pamper the corporate bosses, they do not really contribute that much. They don’t pay taxes, just like the poor which they have produced with their lowered wage standards. Not only are they against paying taxes themselves (selfish) but they do not want Americans to eat or much of anything else. They want it all!

Aug 04, 2011 12:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
EdHomer wrote:
I am a veteran who came back in 1984 and had diesel mech direct support jobs and motor pool level jobs…also held position of fuel and electrical guy.I ended up doing nursing home assistant work and working for lame people who claimed they were a mechanic shop but really a ripoff…could not get job until V.A. offered on the job training and then employer tried to fire me after the period ended and he stopped recieving half of my income….No one cares about the veterans except when they are doing the dying so the rest can complain about how worthless we are once the job is done or call us baby killers.10 years of service to be told go to hell.Thanks America.

Aug 04, 2011 12:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
bhound56 wrote:
I don’t think that people realize that there are a lot of civilians out of work with equal or better credentials than the folks coming out of the military. It is not a discrimination thing. It is a fact of this terrible economy that the jobs just aren’t there.

Aug 05, 2011 1:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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