NY Times' Carr: Occupy Wall Street at a 'Tipping Point'

Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:11am EST

The Gray Lady has Occupy Wall Street on the brain.

The New York Times’ two most prominent media writers – columnist David Carr and reporter Brian Stelter – both wrote about the protest movement on Monday.

While Stelter wrote about the attention paid to the media's coverage of the movement – the press can’t seem to win that battle -- Carr wondered aloud about the future of the protests, sure to “become more of an idea than a place.”

Prompted by the protesters’ eviction from their headquarters in Zuccotti Park – courtesy of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg – Carr believes the movement is at a “tipping point.” Even the members of the movement know it.

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Occupy Wall Street left many all revved up with no place to go. In addition to the 5 W’s — who, what, when, where and why — the media are obsessed with a sixth: what’s next? Occupy Wall Street, for all its appeal as a story, is very hard to roll forward.“

Though many have criticized Occupy for not having a concrete set of goals, Carr comes to the conclusion that it’s okay to be unsure of what’s next.

None of our politicians have a clue either.

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“The president has primed the pump over and over with borrowed federal largess and still jobs refuse to flow. The myriad Republican debates have become a kind of random gaffe generator with little in the way of serious public proposals. And by the way, there’s another term for a gathering of politically committed people who make a lot of speeches and argue endlessly over process without producing much in the way of solutions: Congress."

Yet while Carr may find the protesters' lack of leadership and refusal to pander to the traditional political process “charming,” he also suggests that continuing in the same vein will render the movement ineffectual when it comes to having a lasting influence on society.

The civil rights movement acknowledged the importance of the political process in seeking an unencumbered right to vote. In refusing to the play the politics whatsoever, the Occupy protesters preach to the choir rather than impacting a wider swath of the populace.

This is not to say Occupy must abandon its message of inequality and anti-corruption, but even Carr, who rose to his mighty media post through unorthodox channels, notes that politics is how things get done in this country.

That is why Occupy must try to impact the next election – as the Tea Party did in 2010 – or suffer for it.

“Regardless of how the movement proceeds now that it is not gathered around campfires, its impact on the debate could be lasting and significant,” Carr wrote. “If the coming election ends up being framed in terms of “fairness,” the people who took to the streets, battled the police and sat through those endless general assembly meetings will know that even though their tents are gone, their footprint remains.”

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Comments (5)
steveWeber wrote:
His view (Carr) is right assuming that everything works out ok. If the market and jobs miraculously return the flow of the past 60 years without a decade or so of human misery.

If I was president. I would at any cost. Remove Fear.
(1) a Minimum subsistence amount of food for each individual. Everyday.
(2) A secure shelter so that no one ever has to camp or sleep in the elements.
(3) The usual universal health care that all other civilized industrial countries have.

So thats just me. The fact is that When I have no way to pay my credit card, I shouldn’t go further into credit debt to make today’s monthly debt payment. That is common sense. It is laughingly pointed out as common sense. But that is what just about every country out there is doing.

When 1% of the population takes home 25% or 40% of the total yearly income. That isn’t reinvested into the markets. The average person usually spends every dime they make each year. But now the top 1% are simply not spending their money. And the drain effects capitalism.

So Occupy Wall Street would be camping for the next decade, except for a small extraneous fact. Some cities have determined that having their city run as a Police State is the way to do things. I’ve already been through my younger years of being set up and tortured by our Government. But that isn’t important… If the Occupy Movement is marginalized and disappears due to the politicians and police intervention, then I’ll be moving toward Ground Zero, because I feel the civil war starting.

Government as usual will continue, until enough people are fed up.
Europe is still trying to spin their countries round and round until they can stop without another World War on their soil. They probably will get away without much harm. But they don’t mutilate their male children. In America , life is worth less then compared to Europe. Life in America was gauged to be as much as Israel. What am I worth to those in power?

I’m just a grain of sand.
Stand with me in peace and we will be a sunset at the beach.
Ignore my post and all there will be is a sand storm that can’t be controlled.

Nov 21, 2011 12:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
johnb9990 wrote:
We have to consider that possibility that “OWS” has already been subverted by the very forces they claim to oppose.

What better way to channel people’s rage into nothingness than to steer the movement into an ideology of “we don’t really have any concrete goals”?

Nov 21, 2011 12:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mjbbjm wrote:
There’s a really great suggestion on how to move the Occupy Wall Street movement forward and change the stranglehold of the 1% — an amendment to the Constitution about campaign finance reform.

See http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/11/21/bloomberg_articlesLUZ8V71A1I4H.DTL

Nov 21, 2011 1:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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