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PITTSBURGH | Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:18pm EDT

PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - Two Protestant churches are set to review policies on same-sex marriages, as popular opinion moves toward favoring such unions and the growing number of states allowing them creates a dilemma for church leaders.

The Presbyterian Church U.S.A. opened its General Assembly on Friday, a biennial gathering to review church policy, and next week church leaders are expected to consider their response to the establishment of civil gay marriage in six U.S. states.

Several days later, the Episcopal Church, part of the worldwide Anglican Communion, is due to hold its triennial General Convention during which it will consider establishing a ritual for blessing gay relationships.

"The landscape in the U.S. has changed radically even since our last assembly two years ago," said Michael Adee, executive director of More Light Presbyterians, a national gay rights group. "The conversation has moved from the statehouse to the church. There's a great awakening."

Adee said he expects an "uphill climb" at the convention this week, which is being held at the David Lawrence Convention Center in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Iowa, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut and New York, along with the District of Columbia, have extended marriage rights to gay couples. Nearly 30 states ban such marriages.

Legislatures in Maryland, Washington state and New Jersey have passed same-sex marriage bills, but New Jersey Governor Chris Christie vetoed it and there are challenges to the new laws in Maryland and Washington.

Legalization of civil marriage has created a quandary for some churches. While gay parishioners have pushed for churches to sanctify their marriages, other parishioners have said marriage should be reserved for heterosexual couples.

Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the conservative Presbyterian Lay Committee, set aside her ordination in protest last year after the denomination approved gay ordination. She is in Pittsburgh to lobby against any pro-gay measure.

"This would be a gross departure from the worldwide church," she said. "The growing movement is a secular movement. Shall we follow the culture, or shall we follow the Bible? That is the dividing line."

A church survey conducted in February found that 51 percent of church members oppose same-sex marriage.

In a Presbytery Outlook magazine survey about how the church's approach to same-sex marriage has affected individual churches, Presbyterian leaders claimed that about seven percent of their congregants had left the church since January 2011.

CONSENSUS ON CHURCH POLICY

In 1984, the Unitarian Universalist Association became the first major Protestant church to approve allowing religious blessings for gay unions.

While some Protestant clergy have elected to officiate at gay weddings, for the most part churches have been unable to reach a consensus on church policy regarding gay unions.

Efforts by some denominations to liberalize church policy, including ordaining gay clergy, have led to an exodus of churches to more conservative denominations.

The Presbyterian Church allows ministers to bless same-sex unions but prohibits them from solemnizing legal homosexual marriages.

Leading up to the assembly, several Presbyterian churches proposed a change to the Book of Order, the church's official governing document, to describe marriage not as a civil contract between "a woman and a man" but between "two people."

A less radical shift, seen as more likely to meet approval when it is taken up next week, is also up for consideration: allowing pastors to officiate at gay-marriage ceremonies in states where it is legal. This would change the church's interpretation of the Book of Order without altering its language.

Both measures would allow ministers to officiate at gay and lesbian weddings, but neither would compel pastors to perform the ceremonies.

Just as the Presbyterian assembly is wrapping up, the Episcopalian Church will convene for eight days in Indianapolis, Indiana.

The U.S. church's convention, which occurs once every three years, will take up a proposal by the church's Standing Commission on Liturgy and Music to extend a policy, begun in 2009, that gives bishops the latitude to allow clergy to officiate at marriages or civil unions of same-gender couple in states where those unions are legal.

At present, when church members ask for a blessing for their same-gender unions, they rely on their bishop for approval of liturgy, whether it is for a purely religious ceremony or for solemnizing a marriage.

"The liturgy has been on a diocese-by-diocese basis," said Catherine Waynick, Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Indianapolis.

(Additional reporting by Ronnie Cohen in San Fransisco and David Dawson in Indianapolis; Writing by Edith Honan)

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Comments (5)
wrpa wrote:
Ms. LaBerge; I trust that you worship Jesus Christ, not one of his apostles or New Testament writers, nor their opinions on what Jesus would have done or avoided. It appears from my Bible studies that Jesus Christ was a relatively smart fellow. NOWHERE will you find a quote (…”and He said unto them”..)that marriage is between only one man and one woman. NOWHERE will you find a quote that He said same sex couples cannot marry. If you worship Leviticus, then I trust you are following his mandate to stone your disobedient children to death! And I can assure you that you are a cafeteria christian who picks and chooses Old Testament tracts to apply to everyone other than yourself.”The Bible says” that you are, therefore, a hypocrite!

Jun 30, 2012 12:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rightone00 wrote:
When will everybody realize that what makes all people the same is so much more important than what makes us different. I just don’t understand the bigots who discriminate against gays. As if homosexuals aren’t human beings too. As if they’re not someone’s son, or daughter, or sister, or brother, or father, or mother, or friend. All people want to live in peace, we all feel love, we all want the best for our loved ones, we all have hopes and dreams, we can all feel pain, we all want to follow our bliss, we all struggle, we’re all just trying to get through life the best way we know how. How does any of that change with the color of someone’s skin, or their physical abilities, or what God they pray to, or what language they speak, or what their sexual orientation is? If a man loves and wants to marry another man, or a woman loves and wants to marry another woman, what is that to anyone else? They’re not hurting anyone. Only a truly vicious, hateful, spiteful, selfish, vile misanthrope would begrudge someone their love of someone else. People who hate homosexuals should be ashamed of themselves. Those bigots deserve to live in the shadows. They’re not fit to show their faces in decent society. And it seems patently unfair that gays and their families should suffer the devastating effects of discrimination, while bigots and their loved ones go along untouched. It’s past time that the bigots are made to pay for their discrimination BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Let the bigots and their loved ones start suffering and maybe they’ll learn their lesson.

Jun 30, 2012 5:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SteveMD2 wrote:
the bottom line on religion is that faith is just that – a belief.

Once a church has dug a hole for itself with outdated and really evil ideas, eg denying the humanity of a minority of gods creation, it dares not change, lest the people begin to question the faith

and the collection plate goes dry.

No wonder the dark ages of civilization lasted a thousand years, while catholic kings cabaled with the vatican to keep the world in bondage.

And it took a bloody murderous inquisition of torture and burnings before change began to happen.

We’re still fighting the battles today. Religion has in many ways been the curse of the west, just as it has been the curse of the mideast.

An EXample – the german pope UNexcommunciated a holocaust denier, bishop williamson

the pope should be tossed in a padded cell.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/world/europe/25pope.html?pagewanted=all

Jul 04, 2012 1:19am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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