Exclusive: Apple, Samsung chiefs disagree on patent values: source

SAN FRANCISCO Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:47am EDT

People try the Samsung Electronics' Galaxy Nexus phone and the Galaxy S2 phone displayed at a store in central Seoul July 4, 2012. REUTERS/Woohae Cho

People try the Samsung Electronics' Galaxy Nexus phone and the Galaxy S2 phone displayed at a store in central Seoul July 4, 2012.

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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Apple Inc Chief Executive Tim Cook and top Samsung Electronic Co Ltd executives disagreed last week on the value of each other's patents at a settlement conference ahead of a high profile U.S. trial, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Apple and Samsung, the world's largest consumer electronics corporations, are waging legal war in several countries, accusing each other of patent violations as they vie for supremacy in the fast-growing market for mobile devices.

The trial is scheduled to begin July 30 in a San Jose, Calif. federal court. Cook participated in mediation with Samsung's Vice Chairman Choi Gee-sung and mobile chief Shin Jong-Kyun last Monday in the San Francisco area to see if the two sides could resolve the dispute, several separate sources said.

All sources could not be identified because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

The executives from Apple and Samsung participated as part of the court directed mediation process, these sources said. While a settlement is always possible, it is unlikely to come ahead of the California trial, they said.

Apple on Monday declined to comment on the case. A Samsung spokesman declined to provide details on any discussions, saying "this is an ongoing legal matter."

The U.S. case, taking place a few miles away from Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, is being closely-watched given the lucrative American smartphone and tablet market.

Among the major issues in dispute between Apple and Samsung is how to value so-called standard essential patents. These are patents which Samsung agreed to license to competitors on fair and reasonable terms, in exchange for having the technology be adopted as an industry standard.

Some judges are reluctant to issue injunctions over such patents.

Apple believes those patents should be valued lower due to those dynamics, one of the sources said. Additionally, Samsung believes it has a stronger patent portfolio than Apple when it comes to next-generation technology like 4G, the source said.

The mediation last week was at least the second between top executives. A previous session in May did not produce any settlements.

While both the companies are arch-rivals in the smartphone and tablet marketplace, the case is complicated by the fact that Apple is one of Samsung's largest component customers.

The trial will feature both utility and design patents. Apple utility patents in the case include those that cover how touch-screen devices discriminate between one finger on the screen, or more, and respond accordingly. Apple design patents include those that relate to the black front surface of a phone.

The case in U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, is Apple Inc v. Samsung Electronics Co Ltd et al, 11-1846.

(Additional reporting By Miyoung Kim in Seoul)

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beancube2101 wrote:
Apple believes such standard essential fair and reasonable use should be valued lower due to “those dynamics” but should we also consider what is the benefits for a close system vendor like Apple infringed rights of this kind of patents? We all know know Apple would benefit from it many, many, and many folds.

Jul 24, 2012 1:08am EDT  --  Report as abuse
beancube2101 wrote:
Touch sensors on top of a static picture or an animated picture or many animated pictures are still touch sensors. People can have many ways to implement it in programming. I have no problem they can copyright their own version for their unique building methods but most of us believe that they shouldn’t be awarded as invention with patents. Those patents authorities should be sued by user communities at the first place.

Jul 24, 2012 1:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
sternhrad wrote:
Well beancube, you must not grasp those dynamics (SEP’s). Samsung can’t be the legal standards setter (the cake) and abuse that ruling with high license fees (the eating part).

Jul 24, 2012 7:08am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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