Exclusive: Google, Apple CEOs in secret patent talks

SAN FRANCISCO Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:50pm EDT

A Combination photo showing Google CEO Larry Page (L), in New York, in this May 21, 2012 file photo and Apple CEO Tim Cook in Cupertino, California in this October 4, 2011 file photo. REUTERS/Files

A Combination photo showing Google CEO Larry Page (L), in New York, in this May 21, 2012 file photo and Apple CEO Tim Cook in Cupertino, California in this October 4, 2011 file photo.

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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Google Inc Chief Executive Larry Page and Apple CEO Tim Cook have been conducting behind-the-scenes talks about a range of intellectual property matters, including the mobile patent disputes between the companies, people familiar with the matter said.

The two executives had a phone conversation last week, the sources said. Discussions involving lower-level officials of the two companies are also ongoing.

Page and Cook are expected to talk again in the coming weeks, though no firm date has been set, the sources said on Thursday. One of the sources told Reuters that a meeting had been scheduled for this Friday, but had been delayed for reasons that were unclear.

The two companies are keeping lines of communication open at a high level against the backdrop of Apple's legal victory in a patent infringement case against Samsung, which uses Google's Android software.

Last Friday, a jury awarded Apple $1.05 billion in damages and set the stage for a possible ban on sales of some Samsung products in a case that has been widely viewed as a "proxy war" between Apple and Google.

One possible scenario under consideration could be a truce involving disputes over basic features and functions in Google's Android mobile software, one source said. But it was unclear whether Page and Cook were discussing a broad settlement of the various disputes between the two companies, most of which involve the burgeoning mobile computing area, or are focused on a more limited set of issues.

Competition between Google and Apple has heated up in recent years with the shift from PCs to mobile devices. Google's Android software, which Apple's late founder Steve Jobs denounced as a "stolen product," has become the world's No.1 smartphone operating system. The popularity of the software has been in tandem with patent infringement lawsuits involving various hardware vendors who use it, including Samsung and HTC.

The latest complaint was filed by Motorola Mobility, now a unit of Google, against Apple at the U.S. International Trade Commission claiming some features of Apple's devices infringe on its patents. A previous lawsuit between the two in a Chicago court was thrown out by a federal judge, who said neither side could prove damages.

Apple in recent months has moved to lessen its reliance on Google's products. Apple recently unveiled its own mobile mapping software, replacing the Google product used in the iPhone, and said it would no longer offer Google's YouTube as a pre-loaded app in future versions of its iPhone.

Cook took the helm at Apple a year ago, and Page stepped into the top job at Google a few months before that.

The conversation between Page and Cook last week did not result in any formal agreement, but the two executives agreed to continue talking, according to one source.

Google's Larry Page, who sat out several public speaking engagements earlier this summer because of an unspecified medical condition affecting his voice, has continued to run Google's business.

Apple and Google declined to comment on any discussions.

(Reporting by Alexei Oreskovic and Poornima Gupta with additional reporting by Dan Levine; Editing by Jonathan Weber, Martin Howell and Leslie Gevirtz)

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Comments (4)
juanitotantan wrote:
They better get in talks because of Win8. Even if Win8 sucks every computer will come with it later this year and everybody will be able to update to it for 40$ for the rest of the year. That means by the end of the year millions will be familiar or getting familiar with the new UI which is the same on all devices and the same ‘services’ on all devices even the XBox (which already has millions of users). MS as a software company is putting apps for its services on all platforms (iOS and Android) and that is the point in the future must revenue will come from these services and if people get them in Win8 why would they sign up for iCloud or Google services. This will affect more Apple than Google since Apple services only works on their devices. They way it looks a year from now MS will millions using their Win8 OS and services. Apple and Google better get their act together or in a couple of years MS will be at the top again.

Aug 31, 2012 9:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
The patent victory by Apple is a watershed moment in the annals of technology. It’s a testament to the brilliance of Steve Jobs. Who would have thought that a design patent would be at all worthwhile or would hold up in an American court of law.

I think that Jobs, with his visual sense, as attested to by his study of calligraphy, asian art sense, ‘less is more’ Bauhaus approach, is the insight into how he knew that a small, physical information device could have all aspects of human communication, be patented, or at least protected. Humans communicate by hand actions, signals, eye contact, facial expressions, writing, speaking, groaning… coughing an “ahem,” so he knew that something that was an electo-mechanical human embodiment of all these movements & sounds could be protected.

If he didn’t know explicitly, he knew implicitly. God rest his talented soul.

Aug 31, 2012 9:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
VanessaDeagan wrote:
Software patents were introduced in the eighties – it has been like a “land grab” since then. I have an easy solution: BAN SOFTWARE PATENTS!

Sep 01, 2012 9:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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