Russia says West pushing democracy with "iron and blood"

MOSCOW Sat Dec 1, 2012 8:36am EST

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov delivers remarks after signing a Memorandum of Understanding for Cooperation in Antarctica with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Summit in Vladivostok September 8, 2012. REUTERS/Jim Watson/Pool

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov delivers remarks after signing a Memorandum of Understanding for Cooperation in Antarctica with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Summit in Vladivostok September 8, 2012.

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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused Western states on Saturday of trying to advance democracy abroad through "iron and blood", defending Moscow's refusal to join nations seeking the exit of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Echoing comments made by Vladimir Putin, Lavrov made his sharply-worded address to a foreign and defense policy council meeting two days before the Russian president travels to Turkey where the war in Syria is expected to dominate talks.

"Russia is not opposing Western influence or putting a stick in the spokes of Western-initiated projects out of spite," Lavrov said, according to state-run news agency Itar-Tass.

"The fact is, advancing democracy through iron and blood just does not work, and this has been made clear in recent months - the past year-and-a-half," he said.

He added "in most cases it produces the opposite reaction" and leads to "the strengthening of extremists and repressive forces, decreasing the chances of real democratic change."

Moscow says Western and Gulf states are encouraging rebels seeking the overthrow of Assad while the United States and Europe accuse the Kremlin of shielding the Syrian president during 20 months of bloodshed.

Russia says Assad's exit from power cannot be imposed from abroad and has voiced concern extremists could gain the upper hand in Syria and other states following Arab Spring revolts, further destabilizing the region.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov, in a meeting with Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad, said the situation has been worsened by a "sharp increase in the activities of terrorist organizations" including al Qaeda.

According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, Gatilov also repeated Russia's concern the conflict "is taking on a clearly expressed inter-religious element."

Russia has denied it is propping up Assad but says it will not allow a repeat of what occurred last year in Libya.

It says NATO overstepped the bounds of a U.N. Security Council mandate for intervention to protect civilians in its determination to help rebels oust Muammar Gaddafi.

(Writing by Steve Gutterman; Editing by Sophie Hares)

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DeanMJackson wrote:
The caption reads, “Russia says West pushing democracy with “iron and blood”‘

The United States is pushing anything but democracy, since a democracy can’t be controlled, and the United States has particular interests that she wants to attain in both Africa (strategic minerals, so the West’s advanced weapons can remain operating) and the Middle East.

By creating terrorist groups in Africa as a pretext to “liberate” the nations under attack by the terrorist groups (taking place as I write in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where America’s client states bordering the DRC, Uganda and Rwanda, are playing the role of “liberators” in the DRC), and setting ethnic groups against each other (Rwanda in the mid 1990s), the United States and Western Europe are responsible for the deaths of millions of Africans (5.4 million in the Democratic Republic of the Congo alone), because the West doesn’t want the “stigma” of re-colonizing those nations, instead the West depopulates those nations via whole-scale massacres.

You see ladies and gentlemen, if the USSR and China are left unchecked and end up the only nations controlling strategic raw minerals, the Western democracies are history.

As for Russia, pardon me, the USSR, she is still controlled by deluded Communists who are willing to march the world into eternal dictatorship as they wait (like Godot) for the Communist Commonweal that Marx deduced. Of course, before the Communist Commonweal can magically appear, Communists must first subdue the West because the West’s scatter-brained monetary system is sabotaging world Capitalism (Moscow and Beijing believes), and Marx said that the Communist Commonweal can only materialize with “advanced” Capitalism:

“Marx sharply stresses the bad sides of capitalist production, but with equal emphasis clearly proves that this social form was necessary to develop the productive forces of society to a level which will make possible an equal development worthy of human beings for ALL members of society. All earlier forms of society were too poor for this” — Friedrich Engels, “Marx’s Capital,” Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, Selected Works, Volume I, pp. 468-469.

So ladies and gentlemen, isn’t it a lovely world we live in? Personally I prefer the good old days where the British and French Empires ruled; massacres were fewer and way less in magnitude!

Dec 01, 2012 11:05am EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:
The US wants assad gone so they can push democracy??? NO you Russian scumbags, its for all the human right crimes that assad has committed against his own people.

RUSSIA WILL ALWAYS BE THERE TO PROTECT THE SCUM OF THE EARTH

Dec 01, 2012 2:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:
MetalHead8 says, “RUSSIA WILL ALWAYS BE THERE TO PROTECT THE SCUM OF THE EARTH”

Since the Russian people don’t have electoral control in Russia, and never had, why would you make such a ludicrous statement?

Dec 01, 2012 3:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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