Illinois governor vetoes parts of concealed carry gun bill

CHICAGO Tue Jul 2, 2013 5:47pm EDT

Illinois Governor Pat Quinn delivers his State of the State address to the joint session of the General Assembly in the House Chambers of the Illinois State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois February 1, 2012. REUTERS/Sarah Conard

Illinois Governor Pat Quinn delivers his State of the State address to the joint session of the General Assembly in the House Chambers of the Illinois State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois February 1, 2012.

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CHICAGO (Reuters) - Illinois governor Pat Quinn on Tuesday vetoed parts of a gun bill that would have allowed people to carry more than one gun, carry guns into some places that serve alcohol, and carry a partly exposed gun.

Flanked by parents of gun violence victims, Democrat Quinn said at a press conference that he objected to at least nine provisions of the new Illinois concealed carry measure that was passed by the legislature.

"This is a flawed bill with serious safety problems that must be addressed," Quinn said.

After the press conference, House Speaker Michael Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton, both Democrats, said through aides that they would hold votes on July 9 to override Quinn's veto.

While Quinn's Democratic party has large majorities in the legislature, the issue of gun control has divided the party along urban-rural lines.

Many lawmakers from Chicago, which has experienced a surge in gun violence, want tighter gun control laws. In more rural areas, lawmakers prefer more permissive rules. Both Cullerton and Madigan represent Chicago districts.

If the state legislature votes to accept the changes proposed by Quinn, the revised measure would become law. If the legislature overrides Quinn's veto, the original version would become law. If the proposal becomes law it would be a victory for the National Rifle Association, a powerful lobby for gun owners.

Illinois is the only state in the United States that bans residents from carrying a concealed gun in public. The state law was struck down in December by a federal appeals court, which said the law violated the Constitutional right to bear arms. The court gave Illinois six months to draft a new law.

The debate over gun control heated up last December, when 20 children and six adults were killed at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut.

On Tuesday, Quinn vetoed a provision that would allow guns in some places that serve alcohol such as restaurants, one that would allow more than one gun to be concealed, and another that would allow any gun carried to be partly exposed outside clothing.

Quinn also said any ammunition clip carried with a concealed gun should hold no more than 10 bullets. The bill does not limit the number of bullets.

The Illinois constitution allows a governor to veto part of a bill or all of it. The legislature can overrule the governor by a vote of a three-fifths majority in both chambers. The concealed carry law passed on the last day of the spring session of the legislature by majorities exceeding three-fifths in both chambers.

(Reporting By Greg McCune; Editing by Dina Kyriakidou and Bob Burgdorfer)

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AZWarrior wrote:
Still bucking the court’s order. The part about partially exposed guns is just a nightmare in enforcement. Bend over and let a shirt tail come up a bit and gotcha. Pick through a gap in the shirt buttons and gotcha. I had a bad day and I feel like arresting someone and gotcha. Stupid idea.

Jul 02, 2013 5:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
metengineer wrote:
USofRationality, I too wish we lived in a society where guns were not needed. However, wising does not make it true. We live in a violent society. The guns are not a cause of the violence but a tool. As a society we don’t seem to have the stomach to get to the root cause and fix problems.

The truth is there are evil people. The truth is also that hundreds of thousands of people every year use their legally carried firearms to protect themselves. You probably will not believe me so please read the recent study by the National Research Council.

If you accept the numbers provided by a very anti-gun group, just over 500 people have been killed by people legally carrying concealed weapons, by just over 300 individuals since 2007 (separate from the study reference above). That is six years out of a population of 3,000,000 at the very least (that is the lowest estimate that I found). That is .01%. Many states have no restriction on having a gun in establishments that serve alcohol. Most states have a more lax carry law that that proposed in Illinois. A few states have no restriction on those allowed to carry. Yet, the trend in most states is to loosen the carry laws instead of tightening them.

You are correct, when there is a bad person with a gun doing horrible things bad things may happen when someone steps in to stop it. The same possibility exists and happens when police finally show up to stop the violence. What we know for sure is that if nobody steps up to stop him the horrible things will happen. I will take “may” over “will” any day. Even more so when it has not been a problem in the other 49 states with carry laws.

Jul 02, 2013 6:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ChicagoGrrl wrote:
You call the National Rifle Association a powerful lobby for gun owners.

There are 70 million gun owners in the U.S. and the NRA has 5 million members, many of them join for non-lobbying reasons.

The NRA is the powerful lobby for the gun manufacturers. You should have been more honest in the article.

Jul 02, 2013 7:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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