U.S. mayors say thousands of guns sold illegally online

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Thousands of guns are being offered for sale illegally by unlicensed firearms dealers on a single U.S. website, according to a report released on Thursday by a group of U.S. mayors campaigning for gun control.

Mayors Against Illegal Guns, founded and largely funded by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, examined sales on Armslist.com, a major gun-trading website that enables sales in all 50 states, over an eight-week period this year.

It said nearly a third of the ads posted were from "high-volume" sellers who lacked the federal license required of individuals who regularly sell firearms.

Private sellers are generally allowed to sell a gun legally online without checking the buyer's criminal record and mental-health history, although rules governing such sales differ from state to state. Anyone engaged "in the business" of selling guns is required by federal law to have a license and to perform background checks on buyers.

Based on its sample, the mayors' group estimated that nearly 240,000 guns would be advertised on the website in a year by high-volume sellers posing as private sellers who would not necessarily require background checks.

"These findings tell us that law enforcement, legislators and web sites all need to take steps to choke off this potentially deadly stream of illegal firearms sales," Bloomberg said in a statement.

He noted that the report was being released just two days before the anniversary of a mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, in which a gunman killed 20 children and six adults.

"Nothing has changed in Washington since Newtown," Bloomberg said.

In spite of outrage provoked by the Newtown shooting, a gun control bill endorsed by President Barack Obama stalled in the U.S. Senate earlier this year, with gun rights advocates arguing that free access to guns is a constitutional right.

Gun control advocates, including some from Newtown, gathered at the National Cathedral in Washington on Thursday to mark this week's Newtown anniversary.

The "National Vigil for Victims of Gun Violence," attended by about 500 people, was organized by the nonprofit Newtown Foundation and the cathedral, both of which back a tightening of federal gun laws.

The Reverend Mel Kawakami of Newtown's United Methodist Church urged the activists to "work toward a world where there are no more school shootings.

"We gather to say, No more!" he said.

In September, the mayors' group estimated that as many as 25,000 guns a year may be sold on Armslist.com to people with criminal records.

Armslist.com offers a disclaimer that it "does not become involved in any transactions between parties" and its users must agree that they will not break the law. The website's operators did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Bloomberg, one of the most prominent and wealthy advocates of tighter U.S. gun laws, steps down as mayor at the end of the year, but has said he will remain active on the issue.

(Additional reporting by LaLacey Johnson in Washington; Editing by Edith Honan and David Brunnstrom)

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Comments (4)
Hawker1 wrote:
I can’t think of any better indicator that new gun laws are not needed. This article is definite proof that current (and sufficient) laws are not being enforced.

Dec 12, 2013 10:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
onemind wrote:
“Illegal gun sales” with the laws largely unenforced, though the criminal acts are as detectable as logging on to the internet. Sounds like the legal gun owner’s complaint that anti-gun forces continually want to add more laws to limit their rights but never do enforce the one’s already on the books is valid. Why is this? Many believe their goal is not to regulate gun sales but to eliminate gun ownership.

Dec 12, 2013 11:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
efiftythree wrote:
What they fail to mention is that 99% of the people who use websites like Armslist are law abiding citizens. When completing a sale they send the firearm to a licensed dealer (FFL) where the buyer must retrieve the purchase but only after a regular background check. Of course this is left out as it doesn’t fit the narrative they are attempting to create.

admittedly, as with nearly any other law on the books, there are the 1% who will break the laws and/or not follow process. In fact that 1% is probably a lot closer to 0.5%. Groups like Bloomberg’s don’t simply want to enforce laws pr have additional laws created. They really seek an end to the 2nd Amendment in general so they hype hype hype these 0.5% outlier situations and the media just eats it up. Of course people who don’t know anything about the topic will take the info they get from news sources and simply believe its true.

Dec 13, 2013 9:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
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