Extra funds help float Noah's Ark replica in Kentucky

Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:10pm EST

(Reuters) - A Christian ministry that plans to build a Noah's Ark replica in Kentucky has raised enough money to go ahead with the $150 million project - and is thanking an adversary for boosting its support.

Creation Museum founder Ken Ham announced this week that a municipal bond offering has brought in enough money to begin the long-delayed "Ark Encounter," a theme park featuring a 510-foot-long model of Noah's Ark near the Kentucky-Ohio border.

Ham credited the funding bump to Bill Nye "the Science Guy," a popular commentator on science issues who faced off against him in a widely publicized February 4 debate over evolution.

Ham said the media attention surrounding the debate prompted supporters who had registered for bonds to follow through with complex paperwork needed to complete the funding.

"We praise our Creator God for His blessings and for the incredible support we just witnessed from our generous supporters around the country," Ham said in a statement on Thursday.

Ham rejects the theory of evolution and preaches what the Bible says about six days of creation and the earth being about 6,000 years old. This is contrary to scientific consensus, which says the planet formed about 4.5 billion years ago.

Nye, criticized by some fellow scientists for debating a creationist, was not immediately available for comment.

Ham said the first phase of the Ark Encounter project will cost about $73 million, and that several million dollars in donations had been raised before the bond issue. The December bond document sets the issue at $62 million.

The theme park is expected to open in the summer of 2016 and draw 2 million visitors in the first year, project co-founder Mike Zovath told Reuters on Friday.

(Reporting by Mary Wisniewski; Editing by Barbara Goldberg and Gunna Dickson)

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Listen... wrote:
When your state’s adult illiteracy rate is 6 percent…build an ark! Good on ya Tucky!

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Listen... wrote:
When your state’s adult illiteracy rate is 6 percent…build an ark! Good on ya Tucky!

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johndoe333 wrote:
BIBLE AND SCIENCE AGREE…EINSTEIN’S RELATIVITY EQUATION SAYS 13.7 BILLION YEARS AND 6 DAYS ARE BOTH TRUE DEPENDING ON SPACE-TIME COORDINATES; T1=T2/(1- (v^2)/c^2) ½;13,700,000,000 x365 = 5000500000000 days;5000500000000 = 6/sqrt 1-.999999999999999999999999999­­99999% velocity of photons (farthest photons);5000500000000 = 6/sqrt .000000000000000000000001;5000­­500000000 = 6/1.19988001199880011998800119­­988e-12; PLACING YHWH 1/2 a millimeter from the farthest photons YHWH is in all reference frames.
distance of YHWH from farthest photon inthe estimated size of the universe=46500000000 LY radius; 299792458 m / s x60 x 60 x 24 x 365 x 46500000000=439,622,855,430,19­­2,000,000,000,000 meters;439,622,855,430,192,000­­,000,000,000 meters x .99999999999999999999999999999­­999= 439,622,855,430,191,999,999,99­­9,999.99956 meters distance;439,622,855,430,192,0­­00,000,000,000 – 439,622,855,430,191,999,999,99­­9,999.99956 = .0005 meters difference, YHWH half a millimeter from farthest photons
space time stretched 1000,000,000,000 times since first matter (something slower than light survived, hence time kicks in), this means time has slowed 1000,000,000,000 times, 5.1 days genesis x 1000,000,000,000/365=13.9 billion years, YHWH looking into the universe would experience 6 days while the universe experiences 13.9 billion years; 6 OF OUR DAYS ARE STRETCHED OUT AND CONTAIN 14 BILLION EARLY YEARS OF THE UNIVERSE………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
the expanse was not made in 1:2 where YHWH is hovering above the waters….therefore since he was above the waters above that were above those below and there was no expanse and the sea was not yet made therefore only one face… he was above the universe…the hebrew words for heaven are mayim (waters)…and shamayimn(fire and waters)

*respectfully*
let’s start without the math…lets be theoretical
When you get closer to light speed…time slows down
When you reach light speed…time stops for you (NASA has an article online saying this..and its well known)
So if someone were near the farthest photons…travelling near light speed…that persons time would get really really slow depending on their velocity
we know that relativity is true…we have to reset the time of satellites every day
gravity stretches space…when space is stretched…time slows down
the universe is stretching
a billion light years away is a billion years ago…two billion lights years away is two billion years ago
all astronomers interpret the stretching of space as the stretching of time
whether the time is literal 6 days or not has been a long dabate among bible believers
Schroeder is saying the 6 days is where the Bible says YHWH is at…above the universe…and that since the early universe time was not stretched out it was much faster so the math shows that 6 of our days contain 14 billion years when the universe was not as stretched..all scientist know stretching of space slows time down
the vedic indians said a day with their deities was hundreds of thousands of years
the bible has relativity in many places…it says a 1000 years is as a day, and as a watch in the night (about 3 hours); Other passages that were written decades after Christ said this is the last hour (deacades) it would appear that there is relativity in the Bible
The ENGLISH translations did butcher the HEBREW LANGUAGE of genesis one
Here is the order in Hebrew…
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darkness on the surface of the deep (black hole, abyss in septuigint)
light…singular not plural..there is only one light…1000 years ago there were Jews saying the universe began smaller than a grain of mustard and was pure energy
light separates from darkness as the universe cools to the point that photons are freed
atmosphere is formed and things start seperating
land and water on the earth seperate to for sea and land (singular)
land and seas become plural
plants are formed from the eretz (earth) eretz can mean dirt, land, nation, or the globe…the oldest fossils we have resemble plantlike structures…some of the ancient jewish theologians said plants were begun this time by their creation was ongoing through the rest of the days
the atmosphere becomes oxygenated and sun, moon and starlight reaches the earth…shines upon the earth…Genesis stresse two times the sun shined down on the earth…made in hebrew is asah…
also all the tenses in Gen 1 are imperfect in the hebrew language…
the Hebrew word for made is…
asah-to do, fashion, accomplish, make
(Qal)
to do, work, make, produce
to do
to work
to deal (with)
to act, act with effect, effect
to make
to make
to produce
to prepare
to make (an offering)
to attend to, put in order
to observe, celebrate
to acquire (property)
to appoint, ordain, institute
to bring about
to use
to spend, pass
as you see…asah does NOT necessarily mean “made from scratch” there are many other meanings such as work, deal, act with effect, perpare, attend to, put in order, observe, celebrate, acquire, appoint, ordain, institute, use, spend
this era is when the atmosphere became oxygenated and is very near the time that the luminosity of the sun began to rise intsead of plummeting
two times the text says the sun shined upon the earth
set (nathan)-to give, put, set
(Qal)
to give, bestow, grant, permit, ascribe, employ, devote, consecrate, dedicate, pay wages, sell, exchange, lend, commit, entrust, give over, deliver up, yield produce, occasion, produce, requite to, report, mention, utter, stretch out, extend
to put, set, put on, put upon, set, appoint, assign, designate
to make, constitute
here you can see that set can mean a good number of things
this era…something significant did happen with the sun moon and stars..they became visible on the eart and the suns luminosity began to rise
another point to prove my point…in Job 38 it places stars before the earth..therefore asah does not mean made from scratch
another point..look up the dictionaries online…a reflector can be called a light…see for yourself…the dictionaries say it
if the bulb in a flashlight is gone..is it still not called a light?
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continuing…
tanniyn- dragon, serpent, sea monster
dragon or dinosaur
sea or river monster
serpent, venomous snake
as you can see…most of the definitions are reptiles or amphibians
unfortunately..the KJV translated it as whales becuase they were not aware of these other things
1000 years ago..there were Jewish theologions that knew this was reptiles
owph-flying creatures, fowl, insects, birds
fowl, birds
winged insects
unfortunately the KJV translators were not aware of the flying insects and their large sizes…KJV chose birds when the Hebrew intended flying insects
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Also Eve was created from adam
Create (bara)-to create, shape, form
(Qal) to shape, fashion, create (always with God as subject)
of heaven and earth
of individual man
of new conditions and circumstances
of transformations
as you see…bara can mean to transform…actually Eve was transformed from Adam..YHWH didnt make her from scratch…he used Adams body and DNA
therefore…YHWH could have made animals from animals
unfortunately…many christians and atheists are too lazy to open a dictionary…even the websters english says that create can simply mean to change appearance of something
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The English botched the Hebrew…but the Hebrew is actually in harmony with the modern scientific record…if you go by the Hebrew and not the English…as you can see
the original Hebrew tenses are imperfect meaning ongoing action rather than completed that day
and 6 days near the outer universe are 14 billion years here…it all depends on your velocity and how much space has been stretched..this is basic physics without the math…so its easier to understand…its in all physics texts
I counted about 18 things in all in Genesis in the correct order..the permutations are 18! are 1 in 10^15 odds or 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000 odds

there are 2000 fulfilled prophecies in the Bible the avarage odds are 1 in 10 each meaning the total odds are 1 in 10^2000
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Fred Hoyle estimated that there is less than 1 chance in 10 to the 40,000power that life could have originated by random trials. 10 to the 40,000power is a 1 with 40,000 zeros after it!
Dr Harold Morowitz the probability of the chance formation of the simplest, smallest lifeform know, is about 1 in 1*10^340,000,000. Dr Carl Sagan, odds against the simplest of life forms taking shape on our planet by chance. 1 in 1*10^2,000,000,000. Dawkins, Gould, Morowitz, Nye all said -no one knows how life started. Mr. Dawkins do you know of a mutation that increases the information of a Genome *Dawkins rolls his eyes, drops his jaw looking lost for an answer* Stephen J. Gould: “The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils.” (Stephen Jay Gould, Harvard University. “Evolution’s Erratic Pace”, Natural History Vol. 5, May 1977).In 1982 Francis Crick, winner of the Nobel Prize in Biology after discovering DNA, wrote:”An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the Origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have to be satisfied to get it going” (Life Itself, Its Origin and Nature, Futura, London 1982).Sir Fred Hoyle, a famous UK astronomer, wrote: “A super intellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology … The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one to a number of 10 with 40 thousand noughts (zeros) after it. It is enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of Evolution. There was no primeval soup, neither on this planet nor on any other, and if the beginnings of life were not random they must therefore have been the product of a purposeful intelligence,” (Nature: vol.294:105, Nov 12 1981).In 1930 British physicist Sir James Jeans wrote:”Nature seems very conversant with the rules of pure mathematics … In the same way, a scientific study of the action of the Universe has suggested a conclusion which may be summed up… in the statement that the Universe appears to have been designed by a pure mathematician… the Universe can best be pictured, although still very imperfectly and inadequately, as consisting of pure thought… If the Universe is a Universe of thought, then its Creation must have been an act of thought. Indeed the finiteness of space compels us to think of the creator as working outside time and space, which are part of his Creation, just as an artist is outside his canvas,” (The Mysterious Universe p 146).NASA astronomer Robert Jastrow wrote:Robert Jastrow “Now we see how the astronomical evidence leads to a Biblical view of the Origin of the world: the chain of events leading to man commenced suddenly and sharply in a definite moment of time, in a flash of light and energy”, (God and the Astronomers, page 14).Physicist and Nobel Laureate Arno Penzias wrote:”Astronomy leads us to a unique event, an Universe which was created out of nothing, one with a very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say ‘supernatural’) plan.”Robert Shapiro wrote:”The improbability involved in generating even one bacterium is so large that it reduces all considerations of time and space to nothingness. Given such odds, the time until the black holes evaporate and the space to the ends of the Universe would make no difference at all. If we were to wait, we would truly be waiting for a miracle”,”The number of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed on earth must be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory.” – Charles Darwin 1902 edition.Nowhere was Darwin able to point to one bona fide case of natural selection having actually generated evolutionary change in nature.Ultimately, the Darwinian theory of evolution is no more nor less than the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century. Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crises (Bethesda, Maryland: Adler & Adler, 1986) pp. 62, 358.”[The theory of evolution] forms a satisfactory faith on which to base our interpretation of nature.”—*L. Harrison Matthews, “Introduction to Origin of Species,” p. xxii (1977 edition).”The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an unproved theory—is it then a science or faith? L. H. Matthews, introduction to Origin of Species 1872 Darwin: “I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science.”’Letter to Asa Gray, 18 June [1857] (see the letter)
It only takes a mutation to change a birds beak. It would take 10^600 tries to get the bones in the best place by chance.

EINSTEIN’S RELATIVITY TEACHES THAT 6 DAYS ABOVE THE UNIVERSE AND 13.7 BILLION YEARS HERE WOULD PASS AT THE SAME TIME
relativity teaches that the faster a person goes the slower their time occurs…as a person approaches the speed of light their time gets slower…YHWH is near the farthest photons ..the farthest objects in the universe…he is moving away from us near the speed of light riding the universe…below is a rocket simulation from a science website using the same principle..the rocket experiences a day ..the earth observers days are listed under the days column.

here is einsteins time dilation formula
T1=T2/(1- (v^2)/c^2) ½;

now…plugging in the 13.7 billion years in days, and the 6 days we get…

13,700,000,000 x365 = 5000500000000 days;5000500000000 = 6/sqrt 1-.999999999999999999999999999­­99999% velocity of photons (farthest photons);5000500000000 = 6/sqrt .000000000000000000000001;5000­­500000000 = 6/1.19988001199880011998800119­­988e-12

.99999999999999999999999999999999% speed of light is near the farthest photons (objects) in the universe…assuming Gott is correct on the 93 billion light year estimated width of the universe…this amounts to 1/2 a millimeter from the farthest photons

here is the rocket example form a non associated science site…

Rest Frame Time Elapsed
per Day on Ship

v/c Days Years
0.0 1.00 0.003
0.1 1.01 0.003
0.2 1.02 0.003
0.3 1.05 0.003
0.4 1.09 0.003
0.5 1.15 0.003
0.6 1.25 0.003
0.7 1.40 0.004
0.8 1.67 0.005
0.9 2.29 0.006
0.95 3.20 0.009
0.97 4.11 0.011
0.99 7.09 0.019
0.995 10.01 0.027
0.999 22.37 0.061
0.9999 70.71 0.194
0.99999 223.61 0.613
0.999999 707.11 1.937
0.9999999 2236.07 6.126
0.99999999 7071.07 19.373
0.999999999 22360.68 61.262
0.9999999999 70710.68 193.728
0.99999999999 223606.79 612.621
0.999999999999 707114.60 1937.300
0.9999999999999 2235720.41 6125.261
0.99999999999999 7073895.38 19380.535
0.999999999999999 22369621.33 61286.634

.99999999999999999999999999999999 speed of light @ 6 days near farthest photons= 13.7 billion years

Bible is true…EINSTEIN’S RELATIVITY EQUATION SAYS 13.7 BILLION YEARS AND 6 DAYS ARE BOTH TRUE DEPENDING ON SPACE-TIME COORDINATES; T1=T2/(1- (v^2)/c^2) ½;13,700,000,000 x365 = 5000500000000 days;5000500000000 = 6/sqrt 1-.999999999999999999999999999­­99999% velocity of photons (farthest photons);5000500000000 = 6/sqrt .000000000000000000000001;5000­­500000000 = 6/1.19988001199880011998800119­­988e-12; PLACING YHWH 1/2 a millimeter from the farthest photons YHWH is in all reference frames.distance of YHWH from farthest photon inthe estimated size of the universe=46500000000 LY radius; 299792458 m / s x60 x 60 x 24 x 365 x 46500000000=439,622,855,430,19­­2,000,000,000,000 meters;439,622,855,430,192,000­­,000,000,000 meters x .99999999999999999999999999999­­999= 439,622,855,430,191,999,999,99­­9,999.99956 meters distance;439,622,855,430,192,0­­00,000,000,000 – 439,622,855,430,191,999,999,99­­9,999.99956 = .0005 meters difference, YHWH half a millimeter from farthest photonsspace time stretched 1000,000,000,000 times since first matter (something slower than light survived, hence time kicks in), this means time has slowed 1000,000,000,000 times, 5.1 days genesis x 1000,000,000,000/365=13.9 billion years, YHWH looking into the universe would experience 6 days while the universe experiences 13.9 billion years; 6 OF OUR DAYS ARE STRETCHED OUT AND CONTAIN 14 BILLION EARLY YEARS OF THE UNIVERSE
create is bara in hebrew and can mean to transform
made is asah in hebrew and means to work on-not to make from scratch
tenses are imperfect in original hebrew
tanniyn usually means giant reptile rather than whale
owph could mean winged insect or fowl…insects are what appears in the fossil order

odds, origin of DNA code, how life started(scientifically)-dawkins said nobody knows, there is no proven means of increasing complexity by chance, the fossil record is mostly gaps, human changes are too rapid for chance mutations, quote their own showing the pitfalls

actually the 6 days work out to be 1/2 millimeter from the farthest photons when you plug in the numbers…but…if you read the first verse the heavens and earth were created before they were created because the tense is perfect then the word and (waw vav) means the 6 days of creation follow…to they were finished before they were created..then chapter 2 says they were created in a day…so..we have 3 different times

by the way…verse 1:1 where it was finished before the full 6 days…woud place YHWH even closer to the farthest photons..paper thin closeness or smaller

there are only two ways to interpret this
1. the days are symbolic
2. the day are literal which would mean relativity

gone forever are the days that time is a difficulty…thanks to Einstein
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listen starting at 3:00 richard dawkins says no one knows how life started
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc
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richard dawkins appears stumped http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W4e4MwogLo
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Richard Dawkins confusing something and nothing… dawkins called it something contradicting himself …funny video… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v34QjYPuiEA
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kaballah based on the bible and modern cosmology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuKwz0MEawI
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Bible says flood was local
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/localflood.html
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engineering computer analysis of the ark
http://creation.com/safety-investigation-of-noahs-ark-in-a-seaway
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