* Asset management operating profit down 28 percent
* Pimco performance fees slump 96 pct
* Outflows slowed, but U.S. interest rates could pose threat
* Allianz shares rise 0.8 percent
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By Jonathan Gould
FRANKFURT, May 14 German insurer Allianz
has called on its California-based asset manager,
Pimco, to prove itself after investors withdrew a further 22
billion euros ($30 billion) in the first quarter, denting group
Performance at Pimco, which has been an Allianz cash cow for
years and runs the world's biggest bond fund, has become a
growing problem since the departure of its co-chief investment
officer, Mohamed El-Erian, this year after a clash with Pimco
founder Bill Gross.
Europe's biggest insurer said that institutional clients had
joined retail investors in pulling funds from Pimco, whereas
last year it said withdrawals came mainly from the retail side.
Allianz Chief Financial Officer Dieter Wemmer said the group
is convinced the outflows at Pimco would narrow in time.
"Pimco certainly has to prove that it stops at some point,"
Wemmer said in a conference call with analysts after Allianz
released first-quarter results on Wednesday.
"After bringing it (the outflow) to zero, the next step is
bringing it to a positive number," he added.
Pimco's outflows in the quarter were less than the 29
billion euros and 36 billion euros that took flight in the third
and fourth quarters of 2013, but it still faces headwinds as
investors position for higher interest rates in its main market,
the United States.
"The trend is pointing in the right direction," Wemmer said
in a Reuters TV interview, referring to the drop in outflows.
"But the market environment for actively managed fixed-income
funds is at the moment a bit difficult; there are also outflows
at our big competitors on the same products."
But the latest fund flow figures from Morningstar Inc
show a different picture.
Michael Rawson, an analyst at Morningstar, said in an April
report titled "Investors Return to the Bond Market, Just Not to
PIMCO" that investors added $39 billion to long-term
U.S.-domiciled mutual funds in March, but Pimco saw net outflows
for the same period.
Rawson said $7.4 billion was moved out of Pimco's funds in
March, while $15.5 billion was withdrawn by investors in the
first quarter. Pimco's flagship Total Return Fund (PTTRX), for
instance, experienced $3.1 billion in outflows in March. Other
intermediate-term bond funds had $7.4 billion of inflows during
Wemmer said investors had been changing their strategic
asset allocation and withdrawing money from a mix of products.
"It's half and half between total return-type funds and the
newer fund families," he said.
Allianz had reported preliminary quarterly earnings last
week, but its declaration that it remains on track to achieve
its full-year target for group operating profit of 10 billion
euros failed to mollify shareholders angry at Pimco's
After El-Erian's departure, Pimco set up a structure of six
deputy chief investment officers to back up Gross, 70, who is
now the sole CIO.
"We've done all the necessary changes together with Pimco
management," Wemmer told Reuters TV. "What the renewed team has
to demonstrate is continued good performance of the funds."
Operating profit in asset management fell to 646 million
euros, from 900 million euros in last year's strong
corresponding quarter, with performance fees at Pimco slumping
by 96 percent.
"Asset management operating profit was a tick worse than we
had expected on the basis of preliminary data," LBBW analyst
Werner Schirmer said in a note to clients.
Allianz shares rose 0.8 percent to 122.85 euros by 1504 GMT,
outpacing a flat STOXX Europe 600 insurance index.
Allianz is one of the world's biggest fund managers, with
1.3 trillion euros in third-party assets under management at the
end of the first quarter. Pimco represents the lion's share of
those assets, at 1.1 trillion euros.
($1 = 0.7296 Euros)
(Editing by Thomas Atkins, David Goodman and Paul Simao)