Black friend defends shooter of Florida teen

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tychicum wrote:

What is a “white hispanic”. Zimmerman is as “white” as Obama. He has a Peruvian Indian heritage …

Mar 25, 2012 3:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bobber1956 wrote:

This took ALOT of corouge…we need more of this.

Mar 25, 2012 3:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tychicum wrote:

What is a “white hispanic”. Zimmerman is as “white” as Obama. He has a Peruvian Indian heritage …

Mar 25, 2012 3:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DerpHerp2 wrote:

And yet everyone will ignore this man. Also makes you wonder why everyone is ignoring Martin’s Facebook photos- the ones that make him look a little less like a perfect angel.

Mar 25, 2012 3:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tij123 wrote:

There is a miscarriage of justice here. There is a civil rights issue in which the killer of Trayvon should have been arrested, charged and put on trial. If Zimmerman were Black and Trayvon is White, this will not happen. Zimmerman, the Black man would be arrested immediately. The “Shoot First” law needs to be repealed. There are so many ways a killer can slaughter people that he does not like under the “Stand Your Ground” law then fabricate the story and that the bruises/blood/wounds of the killer are all fabricated to make it look like they are all for self-defense. How can the dead victim testify that it was not self-defense for the killer? The “Stand Your Ground” law should be thrown in the trash.

Mar 25, 2012 3:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SoInsane wrote:

oh…he’s Hispanic….that’s OK then. He just looks white.

This country is so stupid. That’s OK though…the New Black Panther Party has a bounty on the Hispanic.

Mar 25, 2012 3:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ocman wrote:

Why were the lefts so quick to jump and to declare racism?
Obama would want everyone to believe there is racism in this country and
that people who don’t like him are because of his skin color instead of his policies. I am color blind. People are the same to me.

Mar 25, 2012 3:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
orangeblossom wrote:

This paragraph sums it up: “All these people who are threatening George, what makes them any better than the person they think he is?” Oliver said. “You’ve got all these people wanting to lynch the man and they don’t know the whole story. There are huge gaps that are being filled in and interpreted without evidence.”

The exact same jumping to conclusions is being done. It’s so wrong when one person does it. It’s just as wrong when the mob (including celebrities and politicians) does it.

Mar 25, 2012 3:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

I am a South African and we have similar problems here in our country.
I think as long as we think in racial terms we will continue to have racial tensions. We should be thinking more along the lines of nationality such as American or South African. Look for things that unite rather than divide.

Mar 25, 2012 3:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
epittman wrote:

What is a white Hispanic? I guess a Hispanic man shooting an African American doesn’t sell enough papers these days.

Mar 25, 2012 4:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
yeluacmdrawde wrote:

Third party, hearsay accounts, of Mr. Zimmerman’s disposition, that were communicated by an interested party, are hardly a reliable basis for evaluating his remorse.

Also, I haven’t heard any responsible people calling for a “lynching” of Mr. Zimmerman. To the contrary, what I hear is the voices of American citizens demanding a fair trial.

Only someone with dubious intent would make such a dismissively absurd claim. The fact is, them man needs to be tried by state prosecutors; if they fail to live up to the requirements of their office, then the federal government is well within its right to prosecute for hate crimes, and it should give Mr. Zimmerman his fair trial.

Also, if the city and county fail to live up to their respective criminal codes and prosecution procedures, they should be investigated by the FBI and the Justice Department.

Mar 25, 2012 4:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Pinetrees wrote:

Please stop with the “white Hispanic” characterization. This is nonsense and is an attempt to add yet another layer of racism to a story that is already getting crazy. The crux of the matter is whether there is racism or imcompetence on the part of those who did not really investigate the shooting!!! There is need for GOOD POLICE WORK, which has clearly been lacking, NOT “soul searching.”

Mar 25, 2012 4:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GS9999 wrote:

Is this what happened??

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation

Mar 25, 2012 4:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheRightThing wrote:

Initial police report, 6 witnesses. Also a witness claims that Martin was on top of Zimmerman striking him and that Zimmerman was screaming for help. Also claims to have photographed the fight. Maybe we should wait for all the facts first.

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

Mar 25, 2012 4:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dtbmc wrote:

Why does the media have to refer to him as a “white hispanic”? Seems they want to continue to play the white part so it looks like a white man killed a black man. He does not see himself as a white man, he considers himself as a hispanic. I don’t see them saying Obama is a while black man. They just call him a black man when his mother is white as they come.

Mar 25, 2012 4:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BlaKoffee wrote:

“I mean, he took a man’s life and he has no idea what to do about it. He’s extremely remorseful about it,”

I know what he can do about it: he can go to jail like others who have taken a man’s life.

Mar 25, 2012 4:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
_chill_ wrote:

Sorry, Zimmerman was the aggressor… Left the security of his SUV, ignored the direction of the police not to pursue, and instigated a confrontation with Martin holding a concealed weapon (who he also outweighed by 100 pounds). Self-defense plea doesn’t hold water.

Mar 25, 2012 4:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

What we need to understand is that “they” do not want President Obama to see another term. African American need a NATIONAL TV or Cable station that reports national news and current events and not just “entertainment news” BET and TV One are not doing this – let’s learn something from our latino brothers and sisters. Think about it Clear Communications purchased the only Urban Black focus radion station (locally) and quickly change the format. NO Communication is No freedom. We can not continue on as business as usual. We have too many weathly African American that can band together and purchase a National Station provide us with quality!!!!

Mar 25, 2012 4:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cogboy wrote:

please tell me how zimmerman would be able to determine who is an unfamiliar person in a neighborhood where he himself was unsure of what street he was on? his story is a very sloppy “make it up as you go” debacle that could have been avoided if he had properly been arrested and read his rights. give ‘em enough rope…

Mar 25, 2012 4:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pinklady wrote:

Had the Sanford police did a proper investigation,the situation would have never gotten to this point.The family,while still having to deal with the loss of their child,could feel confident that the police cared enough to figure out the circumstances surrounding the childs death, and the world community wouldn’t be in such an uproar.I blame the police first and foremost for all of the negative reaction and coverage.

Mar 25, 2012 4:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jhubers wrote:

I’m not quite sure I understand what difference it makes that this man has a black friend who thinks he’s a nice guy. It’s not his attitude that is important here, it’s what he did. Despite being told by authorities to back down till they could arrive on the scene, he chose to run down an unarmed teenager and murder him. The attitude is less important than the act. As for claiming self defense, how can anyone claim “self defense” if they ran a person down who was on his way home from buying candy at a store.

He may be a nice guy. What he did was not.

Mar 25, 2012 4:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BKNYCHAMPS wrote:

240 plb man armed with a gun, 140 plb teenager armed with skittles and iced-tea. Yeah, I can see how Zimmerman was the one threatened.

Mar 25, 2012 4:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
_chill_ wrote:

Sorry, self-defense plea doesn’t hold water. Zimmerman was the aggressor. He left the security of his SUV to pursue Martin, after police told him not to, and confronted a boy he outweighed by 100 pounds, while holding a concealed weapon. He had a chip on his shoulder and a bullet in the chamber.

Mar 25, 2012 4:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
littleleers wrote:

Thank you, Mr. Oliver for standing up for your friend and for attempting to do what the President refuses to do, and that is to try and tamp down and soothe the mob mentality. I fear for you now, as the race baiters and haters are determined to use this tragedy to further their cause and further their radical agenda.

Mar 25, 2012 4:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
feudi wrote:

I know a few things about this case. 1)I heard the 911 tape and I heard someone, I assume Zimmerman, mutter a racist slur under his breath. 2)Zimmerman called the cops 46 times in 56 days about supposed intruders into his neighborhood. It sure sound bad for him, but let’s get all of the facts.

Mar 25, 2012 4:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SugarDad wrote:

I don’t care if Martin was giving Zimmerman the ass kicking he deserved. Zimmerman was the stalker and it was Martin who initially felt threatened. He didn’t have a piece so he may have been ‘standing his ground’ with his fists.

By his own actions Zimmerman cannot hide behind the ‘stand your ground’ statute. He should not have shot the boy and he should go to trial and use whatever defense his mouthpiece thinks might work to convince the jury otherwise.

Mar 25, 2012 4:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
zoraeden wrote:

How much did they pay him to say that?

Mar 25, 2012 4:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jddallas wrote:

This story troubles me deeply. Has this country actually dropped to the level of publicly setting bounties on people. What makes us any different than the Taliban or Saddam Hussein himself. A person is dead, but how is that any different than the drive by shootings no one seams to care about. Maybe this man is wrong but what about due process of law. We should be screaming for this case to be investigated completely but calling him a raciest because he was not black is very raciest. I believe this country has come a long way in suppressing racism but accusing someone of being a raciest just because he is not the same race as you will undermine what has been accomplished and throw us back to the days of old and racial unrest.

“We need to look at the content of the mans heart and not at the color of his skin”

Mar 25, 2012 4:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
PauseAndThink wrote:

Sadly, President Obama does not have Mr. Oliver’s wisdom. At best, Obama again demonstrated his incompetence to hold office. There are only a few things clear in this case:

1. The public is not aware of all the facts, yet

2. The process WAS working. The initial police report classifies the incident as Homicide – Negligent Manslaughter UNNECESSARY killing to prevent UNLAWFUL Act. In other words, the cops thought Zimmerman had overreacted.

3. A lot of the outcry is based on “facts” that are ximply incorrect. How many accounts fail to mention that Zimmerman was found with his back wet and grass-stained, his nose and back of his head bloody? Whatever happened, he did not simply chase and shoot the teenager.

4. A “Wanted Dead or Alive” poster was issued by the New Black Panther Party.

Where the hell is President Obama in calling for calm allowing the process to work? Or pointing out, as Mr. Oliver does, that the Black Panthers and other loudmouths are clearly calling for vigilante “justice” — the very thing that they claim Zimmerman did?

Mar 25, 2012 4:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cleancountry wrote:

Yes this was a tragedy. No one wants to see a person being killed unless is really, really and without question for legal self-defense and nothing else could have been done to take any other non lethal action.
There are many questions in this case and hopefully something will come out of it,like the repeal of the Florida law and a discussion on the endemic violence in this Country.

However, there is the rule of law in the USA and all of us have to abide by those limitation within this rule of law. This is not the Middle East or Africa where you take the “law” into your own hands and do your “justice”. Apparently, Blacks and Spanics,do not understand it.

How many centuries more it will take to civilize them? Probably,if history is the witness, we will never be able to civilize them.

But the rule of law must prevail at any cost. The Sharptons and the likes of the New Black Panther Party haters cannot be left alone terrorizing our people.

Mar 25, 2012 4:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jddallas wrote:

In response to cogboy; as a retired police officer I can tell you at times you be so focused on an unfolding incident as you go through deferment streets you can become unsure what street you are on, but you know what neighborhood you are in. Anyone who you have not seen before is unfamiliar. If the Police did not have evidence to support an arrest they legally can not arrest his. I can not tell you how many times I let some one go (Black, White. Hispanic, Asia, people of all races) I was sure committed a crime but did not have the evidence at the time to prove it. It is the law, called due process of law. I would rather get a warrant for arrest and not screw the case up than jump the gun a do something that would let a criminal walk free.

Mar 25, 2012 4:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

“I mean, he took a man’s life and he has no idea what to do about it.” Give me a break, how about answering for your crime #1? I don’t care what he says, there is indisputable fact that George followed Trayvon when told not to, admitted by George himself. Maybe he’s not a racist, but he’s still a murderer IMO.

Mar 25, 2012 4:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

I don’t like the fact they throw white Hispanic in here, making it sound even more racist. He was hispanic, not “white” hispanic. You don’t say the president is “white” african. If it was racially motivated then so be it. But don’t say “white” just to make it sound more than it is. I do hope he gets thrown in prison for life though just because of the fact he was profiling. Even though Trayvon may have been 6’3″ and wearing a dark hoodie. You can’t judge a book by its cover.

Mar 25, 2012 4:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jddallas wrote:

In response to SugarDad; I do not know Florida law but I have to assume the police do. If the law give neighborhood watch any authority at all Mr. Zimmerman can not be a stalker, he is doing what the law allows him to do and this is exactly why I do not like neighborhood watches or giving anyone power of legal authority without formal training and screening similar to what the police go through. To often a person who did not make it as a police officer get involved with neighborhood watches. Reckless homicide perhaps, but prosecuting as a hate crime just because the two are of different races is raciest unless the evidence supports it.

Mar 25, 2012 4:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mikesteell1 wrote:

There is no legitimate reason for shooting an unarmed boy of seventeen, for walking to his fathers house with Skittles and ice tea. Zimmerman was told by the police, not to confront or follow the boy. If Zimmerman was really fearing for his life, he wouldn’t have confronted the boy or been following him. This was murder, and a failure of the Sanford Police to investigate. Pure and simple!

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JamVee wrote:

Before the liberal left goes stark raving mad, and spins up the population to uncontrollable levels, let’s remember the destructiveness of previous such “crusades”.

This story helps to point out that everyone should just back off now, and let the law do it’s job. There has been enough attention focused on this case, that nobody will be able to manipulate the truth, so let them do their jobs, and determine what really happened. We have more than enough GD armchair quarterbacks passing off their wild assed guesses as pure fact already.

Mar 25, 2012 4:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cynbrad wrote:

Thank you for sharing, Mr. Oliver. Please know that my prayers include you and Mr. Zimmerman. Though this is an unfortunate situation – GOD’s compassion continues and must be demonstrated through us. May we seek HIS guidance and obey.

Mar 25, 2012 5:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TomMariner wrote:

“The New Black Panther Party, an African American organization taking its name from the radical group of the 1960s, has placed a $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman.”

I love justice by activists. So much better than that police / judge / jury thing. It’s almost as if they were fired up by a big rally and egged on by some high official.

Mar 25, 2012 5:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Suicide rates are very high after a self-defense shooting. No matter what you think about Mr. Zimmerman, he should get counseling/treatment.

Mar 25, 2012 5:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Oh how funny it is .He’s white when it’s something bad and Hispanic when it’s something Good

Mar 25, 2012 5:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mabuhay55 wrote:

I’d cry too if i took a gun ran after a boy, got into a fight with him and shot him dead. Knowing that the whole world knows, his life is about to change. I’d be crying, too

Mar 25, 2012 5:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mabuhay55 wrote:

Crying? Well if i ran after a boy who was un-armed did nothing wrong, got into a fight with him, shot him dead. Now, the whole world knows and my life will never be the same again. I’d be crying, too.

Mar 25, 2012 5:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JustSayin33 wrote:

What is a “White Hispanic” ? The media is determined to make this a white/black thing even though it is not.

Why dont obama and the media call him a “White Black” ?

And all the innocent OLD pictures of Trayvon talk about an orchestrated race issue.

Here is what the little boy with the hollister shirt actually look like now These were from his facebook page. Dont believe it just google “Trayvon Slimm Martin”

http://www.facebook.com/people/Trayvon-Slimm-Martin/1353307542

http://s1151.photobucket.com/albums/o628/trayvonslimmmartin

I am not saying that this MAN needed to be shot but lets be honest about it and not mislead the public.

“A black man was shot and killed by by a Hispanic man!”

Mar 25, 2012 5:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JustSayin33 wrote:

Lets not forget OJ people!!

We ALL new he was guilty and should have got the chair. When he was aquitted did white people riot in the streets and burn down our own neighborhoods?

No, we acted cililized!! Did we put a 10,000 bounty on his head? No we didnt.

The way our system works there must be EVIDENCE.. you cannot throw people in jail just because of threats of violence from black mobs.

What exactly does “no justice no peace” mean? sounds like a threat?

Mar 25, 2012 5:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
old_dinosaur wrote:

In the immortal words of Vince Lombardi, “What the Hell is going on out there!”

That’s right folks. For all of our comments and opinions, these senseless “acts of stupidity” are not going to stop.

You can clamor for the Federal government to step in, pay the “race” card, call it a “hate crime”, demand that laws be changed, get Al and Jesse involved, call and complain to you state congress person. It is not going to change a thing.

We live in a wicked society.

If you want to do something meaningful…… get on your knees and thank God you weren’t the one making the news.

Mar 25, 2012 5:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
r3dkat wrote:

It’s very simple, you can go and dig up Herman Cain wannabes all day long to claim “massah been real good to us”, but there’s no denying SKITTLES, ICE TEA AND BULLETS DON’T MIX. What criminal is stupid enough to attack someone holding a gun when they don’t have a weapon. Whatever Mr Zimmerman claims must coincide with 911 calls and what witnesses saw and heard. Not to mention Zimmermans actions while on the phone. If he was innocent he wouldn’t be hiding.

Mar 25, 2012 5:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
HashCentral wrote:

Excuse me “Friend”? He had to set up a phone call with the lawyer? A friend is someone you can call or visit in person. Sorry, I don’t think this guy is a “friend” as he would think and this is some kind of set up. Even without the racial slur Zimmerman used the phrase similar to this, “These *ssholes always get away.” He’s crying because he knows he’s busted on several accounts. Its impossible even for the public to avoid the evidence. Zimmerman chased Trayvon and then shot him. Zimmerman was wrong and should go to jail.

Mar 25, 2012 5:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
joemygod wrote:

Right….and, Jeffrey Dahmer’s neighbors thought he was a really nice guy.

Mar 25, 2012 5:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
crlos3 wrote:

A white hispanic? Under any other circumstances he would simply be hispanic. What is the difference?

Mar 25, 2012 5:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
crlos3 wrote:

I think that the Justice Dept should investigate and prosecute the Black Panthers for putting a bounty on the man. But as long as Holder leads the Dept I am sure that won’t happen.

As for the trying the man multiple times till the mob gets it’s way. I don’t call that justice. I call that political persecution. Just another example of race baiting.

Mar 25, 2012 5:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Purhoney wrote:

Wow…his black friend would be relevant if the outrage was only about whether or not Zimmerman was a racist, but it’s not. It’s about how it is possible for someone to profile, pursue and murder someone and then call it self-defense. The outrage is about the message the Sanford police department is sending when they don’t conduct a thorough investigation and like Zimmerman, assume that Black skin is synonymous with danger. If Zimmerman doesn’t know what to do, here’s a suggestion: 1. Take responsibility for the fact that it was your judgment and your actions that led to the death of Trayvon Martin. 2. Apologize to his parents, family and friends for devastating their lives, and 3. Accept and serve the punishment that is sentenced. Let’s not lose focus about this case. It’s not about Zimmerman’s racial identity or the racial make up of his friends; it’s about justice for Trayvon Martin and how law enforcement values the lives of Black boys and men.

Mar 25, 2012 5:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
epittman wrote:

What is a white Hispanic? I guess a Hispanic man killing a black teen doesn’t sell enough papers?

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Torquil wrote:

lol. A , “white hispanic. ”

fascinating the verbal and dare say psychological contortions people such as this writer will go to in order to conform patent falsehoods to fit with their views.

Zimmerman is the product of a peruvian immigrant and someone who has a surname zimmerman, which may be german and is also commonly jewish.

This is not a white person as he readily says himself and a casual observer of any photo would surely deduce.

Mar 25, 2012 6:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pdogood wrote:

The problem is that all of this stuff is third party hearsay accounts. Yes the police handled this poorly (if you can believe the 3d party hearsay accounts), but every level of law enforcement in the country is looking at it now. I don’t know this guy, and don’t really care to, but surely he deserves a fair trial. If anyone thinks a $10,000 bounty on your head by an extremist group isn’t encouraging a lynching then they need to get a grip on reality. How would these proponents feel if it were a black accused and a young hispanic man who was deceased? We need to set aside the racial tensions and focus on the facts.

Mar 25, 2012 6:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
everyman1567 wrote:

“All these people who are threatening George, what makes them any better than the person they think he is?”

I can’t speak for everyone, but I feel fairly confident that what makes me better than Mr. Zimmerman is that I’ve never shot an unarmed teenager.

Mar 25, 2012 6:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
everyman1567 wrote:

“Before the liberal left goes stark raving mad, and spins up the population to uncontrollable levels, let’s remember the destructiveness of previous such “crusades”.”

Can you remind me of some of these crusades? Top of my head, the only rioting/massacring I can remember in American history in reaction to a single, unnecessary killing happened in a little town called Rosewood…look it up. The 60s riots were way more complicated and effectively had totally different motivations and goals than one would see coming out of this case, where it to happen. The Rodney King riots, again, were simply the match that lit a much bigger powder keg.

By the way, I’m not a liberal, I’m a white Conservative man who happens to value historical accuracy (If I wanted to make up history, I’d call myself a revisionist, not a conservative). I feel like you’re missing the point of the entire news story by suggesting that people should just sit down and let the law handle it. If you’d actually followed the story you’d know that the whole issue has to do with the fact that the police were NOT investigating the murder. If they were doing their jobs, this certainly wouldn’t have made national news.

Mar 25, 2012 6:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Joeybsmooth wrote:

“As a black man, Oliver said minorities are often unfairly treated, but he believed Zimmerman was simply doing his job as a neighborhood watch volunteer ”

Some tell Mr. Oliver that the JOB of the Watch is to watch .. and not follow . If you look at the rules of watch they say point blank DON’T FOLLOW PEOPLE and DON’T CARRY GUNS.

Also it is funny that he did not even ask him what happen .

Mar 25, 2012 6:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DushmanKush wrote:

Attorney General Holder and President Obama will protect the rights under law of Mr. Zimmerman. Neither of them relates to the New Black Panther Party. Alas, Comrades all, we are in good hands.

Mar 25, 2012 6:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
davemason55 wrote:

WHAT WE DON’T KNOW, by Massad Ayoob

The death almost a month ago of 17-year old Trayvon Martin at the hands of appointed neighborhood watch leader George Zimmerman has become a cause célèbre that has even drawn the notice of our President, who notes that if he had a son he would probably look like Trayvon. I’m seeing some defending Zimmerman, and most demanding his head on a platter, and a whole lot of people who don’t understand how the justice system is geared to approach these things.

As I’ve said earlier in this blog, in answer to reader query, we don’t know enough about what happened to rush to judgment yet, whether that judgment is justified self-defense, murder, or manslaughter. The police have made it clear that there is evidence that has not yet been made public, and may not be put forth until the Grand Jury examines the case next month. Some issues:

The autopsy results, including toxicology screen, have not yet been released. If it turns out that the young man who died was fueled by drugs known to cause violent behavior, could that change our perceptions? That knowledge is not yet in our hands. (Reportedly, Zimmerman was not tested, and police indicate that he showed no signs of drug or alcohol impairment.) My advice to YOU if YOU’RE ever involved in a shooting: request to be taken to a hospital to have a blood sample and toxicology screen taken. A “negative for everything” result will prevent false allegations later that you were drunk or drugged-up when you pulled the trigger.

The death weapon was a Kel-Tec PF9 semiautomatic 9mm pistol. It has been reported that the gun was recovered with a full magazine and that only the chambered round had been fired. This is a condition we associate with something preventing the gun from cycling a fresh round from the magazine into the chamber after the shot was discharged. One thing that can cause that is another man’s hand wrapped around the pistol, retarding its slide mechanism. This would indicate, as could certain gunshot residue patterns or cuts in certain places if found on Trayvon Martin’s hand(s), that a struggle for a gun was taking place when the fatal shot was fired. This would clearly change the shape of the case. But – WE DON’T KNOW YET.

Both men, according to initial reports, were “squeaky clean” in terms of their background. We now know, meh, not so much. There were allegations of domestic abuse against Zimmerman, and a conviction for resisting arrest, in his past. Young Mr. Martin was in the complex in the first place so his dad could straighten him out after being kicked out of school for a week…for what, we don’t know.

Pundits who don’t all seem to understand the concept are tying this shooting in to Florida’s Stand Your Ground law much more than they should. There is conflicting evidence/testimony as to whether Martin approached Zimmerman or vice versa in the penultimate moments before the physical fight that led to the fatal shot. There is, in short, not yet enough information for any of us outside the investigation to formulate a solid opinion.

Update: Turns out that the Trayvon Martin Facebook page mentioned here last night was the wrong Trayvon Martin; that has been deleted with my apologies, and thanks to those who flagged me to the error. Also, HuffPost reports that Trayvon had been suspended for chronic truancy, but another source notes that his school’s posted rules do not prescribe that length of suspension for that minor an offense. Meanwhile, the college George Zimmerman had been attending has suspended HIM, due to the current controversy.

My advice? Let’s all “stand our ground,” not participate in the rush to judgment, and wait for the facts and the evidence to become available to us 300 million jurors in the Court of Public Opinion.

Mar 25, 2012 7:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
LSands wrote:

Having George Zimmerman’s “Black” friend tell of his remorse does nothing to change my mind about this case. People are not calling for him to be lynched, people want Justice for this family. They want Justice for Trayvon Martin. They want to see Zimmerman arrested and tried PERIOD!! Zimmerman carrying a gun around to perform a simple neighborhood watch is the problem with this entire incident. It’s one thing that he disobeyed the 9-11 dispatcher and took matters into his own hands but had he not had a gun in his possession there would never have been a shooting and the world would not be outraged. His racial profiling or even the fact that he may or may not be prejudice against black males is a moot point. He followed that young boy. The young boy obviously was fearful and reacted. Zimmerman shot him.

Mar 25, 2012 7:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
got2nzz wrote:

IS THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY GUILTY OF CIVIL CONSPIRACY, COLLUSION? IF THEY ARE YOU WON’T HEAR IT FROM REUTERS!

Mar 25, 2012 7:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
got2nzz wrote:

THE LATINO HALF FELT REMORSE THE WHITE HALF DID IT ON PURPOSE AND LAUGHED ABOUT IT. HASHAHAHA

Mar 25, 2012 7:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
fatdaddio wrote:

If a black man shoots a white man nothing is said no matter, even if said white man wasn’t a criminal. But if a white man shoots a black man then it is deemed racist no matter the reason. If this same story was a 28 year old black man shoots a 17 year old black man it never would have made the news. Now who is the racist here

Mar 25, 2012 7:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DoctorSnake wrote:

Even serial killers have friends and mothers.

Mar 25, 2012 7:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
reasonofvoice wrote:

Can someone explain to me why Zimmerman is being referred to as a “white Hispanic?!”

When was the last Obama was referred to as a “white African American?”

It is painfully obvious to me how the press is trying to shape this argument. I feel for the the family of this young boy, but let’s get the facts and quit trying to sell ads with sensationalism.

Mar 25, 2012 7:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
got2nzz wrote:

IF TRAYVON WAS SO AFRAID OF THIS GUY WHY DIDNT HE DIAL 911? INSTEAD OF HIS GIRLFRIEND.

Mar 25, 2012 7:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DianaD wrote:

The mob is getting out of control. Kind of has that Tawana Brawley feel to it. What’s going to happen if the security guy was attacked by the kid? That could be very ugly for all these people including the President of the United States! Just let the investigation proceed and everybody just shut up…especially that idiot Sharpton.

Mar 25, 2012 7:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DonAmi wrote:

How can Zimmerman be given a Fair Trial when he is already presummed guilty?

Posters here want to everybody thrown in jail already, including the City and County. Why ? Just because you have an Emotional response? Just because you feel the only possible justice is the one YOU have determined before hand. Before you even have all the evidence?

Sounds like Mob rule more than rule of Law. Sounds like Anarchy to me.

Mar 25, 2012 7:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
runk1putt wrote:

yeluacmdrawde is delusional; 3 witness accounts and a like colored 3rd party?!?!??!

What do you need Tawana Brawley or the Duke stripper to recant their lies AGAIN?!?!?!?!?

Mar 25, 2012 7:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ozlanthos wrote:

“The fact is, them man needs to be tried by state prosecutors; if they fail to live up to the requirements of their office, then the federal government is well within its right to prosecute for hate crimes, and it should give Mr. Zimmerman his fair trial.”

@yeluacmdrawde The cops saw no reason to arrest him, the prosecutor saw no merit in prosecuting him, CASE EFFING CLOSED! How about the kid who just got shot by three black guys in his dorm in Mississippi? Oh, I forgot, it is only a hate crime if it the victim is a black person…

-Oz

Mar 25, 2012 7:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ozlanthos wrote:

“The fact is, them man needs to be tried by state prosecutors; if they fail to live up to the requirements of their office, then the federal government is well within its right to prosecute for hate crimes, and it should give Mr. Zimmerman his fair trial.”

@yeluacmdrawde The cops saw no reason to arrest him, the prosecutor saw no merit in prosecuting him, CASE EFFING CLOSED! How about the kid who just got shot by three black guys in his dorm in Mississippi? Oh, I forgot, it is only a hate crime if it the victim is a black person…

-Oz

Mar 25, 2012 7:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ozlanthos wrote:

“The fact is, them man needs to be tried by state prosecutors; if they fail to live up to the requirements of their office, then the federal government is well within its right to prosecute for hate crimes, and it should give Mr. Zimmerman his fair trial.”

@yeluacmdrawde The cops saw no reason to arrest him, the prosecutor saw no merit in prosecuting him, CASE EFFING CLOSED! How about the kid who just got shot by three black guys in his dorm in Mississippi? Oh, I forgot, it is only a hate crime if it the victim is a black person…

-Oz

Mar 25, 2012 7:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
IdahoRedneck wrote:

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

Bu that community doesn’t care. They are interested in one thing. BLOOD! They figure everyone is out to get that. Not true, but just read all the stories about how they CONSTANTLY jump to conclusions be fore the facts are in. Look at the woman that cried rape in Louisiana. Look at the professor that Obama accused even before the facts were in and look yet AGAIN, Obama leaps before all the facts are in. I thought the president was suppose to be the president of the American people. OBVIOUSLY, I was wrong by his actions he shows he is the president of the blacks. ALL the more reason to get rid of this guy come November.

Mar 25, 2012 7:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
IdahoRedneck wrote:

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

But that community doesn’t care. They are interested in one thing. BL OOD! They figure everyone is out to get that. Not true, but just read all the stories about how they CONSTANTLY jump to conclusions before the facts are in. Look at the woman that cried r ape in Louisiana. Look at the professor that Oba ma accused even before the facts were in and look yet AGAIN, Oba ma leaps before all the facts are in. I thought the president was suppose to be the president of the American people. OBVIOUSLY, I was wrong by his actions he shows he is the president of the bl acks. ALL the more reason to get rid of this guy come November.

Mar 25, 2012 7:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
IdahoRedneck wrote:

SECRET WITNESS: Self-defense…

But that community doesn’t care. They are interested in one thing. BL OOD! They figure everyone is out to get that. Not true, but just read all the stories about how they CONSTANTLY jump to conclusions before the facts are in. Look at the woman that cried r ape in Louisiana. Look at the professor that Oba ma accused even before the facts were in and look yet AGAIN, Oba ma leaps before all the facts are in. I thought the president was suppose to be the president of the American people. OBVIOUSLY, I was wrong by his actions he shows he is the president of the bl acks. ALL the more reason to get rid of this guy come November.

Mar 25, 2012 7:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ne0teric wrote:

A white-Hispanic??? WTH is that? Would you describe Obama a White-African American?

Nothing but race stirring trash… Zimmerman’s family describes him as “Hispanic”…

Mar 25, 2012 7:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
IdahoRedneck wrote:

Don’t try to post anything truthful on this blog. It will never see the light of day. 3 posts and all pending approval and none with foul lan guage.

Mar 25, 2012 7:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bnchy wrote:

Why was it necessary to refer to Zimmerman as a “white” hispanic? It is pathetic to see all the TRUE RACISTS (hello Jackson, Sharpton and the rest of the vermin) crawl out of their dumpster to inflame the situation to say nothing of the fact that they care NOTHING about justice being served; they have already convicted Zimmerman as a murderer before all the facts are in. A black person was killed by someone who is not black so that’s all they care about. I’m sure they are more angry that Zimmerman is not white then they are about the boy being killed. Hey Sharpton you fat POS, Tawana Brawley and the Duke LAX rape accuser say hello.

Mar 25, 2012 7:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
IdahoRedneck wrote:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Mar 25, 2012 7:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

CNN played the tape dozens of times and did not hear the racist slur. I guess people hear what they want to hear. The fact that Zimmerman called the plice dozens of times and that there were multiple burglaries recently actually helps his case – it shows his state of mind was concern about crime. There was a slew of burglaries in that neighborhood, who wouldn’t ne scared and concerned. Trayvon should have respected the other young man doing community patrol, not beat him up.

Mar 25, 2012 7:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Hossmandu wrote:

What the heck?! “White Hispanic”? when will the media stop fanning the flames of race hate? Unbelievable.

Mar 25, 2012 7:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jabusse wrote:

If Sharpton is involved you know Zimmerman is innocent. It will take some guts to stand up to the bigots in the justice department, movie industry, and president.

Mar 25, 2012 7:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jabusse wrote:

If Sharpton is involved you know Zimmerman is innocent. It will take some guts to stand up to the bigots in the justice department, movie industry, and president.

Mar 25, 2012 7:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sharonann wrote:

It’s no surprise that the real bigots and hate mongers are those folks (like some here) who can’t admit that it is they that Jump to conclusions and they are indeed the true racists. Like the idiot who wrote and said, “well this friend doesn’t prove anything about Zimmerman’s racist attitude.” Really numbskull? can’t you comprehend what it is you read? The BLACK man and Zimmerman have been friends for YEARs and he said, “he never witnessed ANY racism on Zimmerman’s part. Just like you “behind every door there’s a racist” nincompoop, disregard what doesn’t Fit Your stereotype of this guy. But go ahead and make the “victim” a Saint, when in fact we are NOW finding out he was a thug with his own sordid history. Look, left wing nuts–give us all a break and shut your mouths until you REALLY know what you’re talking about.

Mar 25, 2012 7:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SharingNews wrote:

Yeluacmdrawde,

Apparently you haven’t read about the “Dead or Alive” posters or the $10k Bounty placed on his head by the Black Panthers. They are calling for 5000 Black Men to go searching for Zimmerman (BTW: That’s one man against 5000).

Only someone unaware of the facts would accuse somebody of making an absurd claim that just happens to be a reality.

Mar 25, 2012 7:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Let me see if I have this right….

1. Zimmerman is not currently a fugitive since he is not wanted by law enforcement
2. The New Black Panther Party has posted a $10,000 reward for Zimmerman’s capture
3. Since Zimmerman is not wanted by the law, this $10,000 reward is a payment for kidnapping
4. Kidnapping is a federal offense – a felony
5. Soliciting for kidnapping is also a felony

All of these fact are indisputable, so why hasn’t the FBI arrested the head of the New Black Panther Party for felony solicitation of Kidnapping?

Mar 25, 2012 7:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
_aziz_ wrote:

“yeluacmdrawde wrote:

Third party, hearsay accounts, of Mr. Zimmerman’s disposition, that were communicated by an interested party, are hardly a reliable basis for evaluating his remorse.

Also, I haven’t heard any responsible people calling for a “lynching” of Mr. Zimmerman. To the contrary, what I hear is the voices of American citizens demanding a fair trial.

Only someone with dubious intent would make such a dismissively absurd claim.”

well, it’s all hearsay and third party accounts of what happened that night, and a lot of people have decided that is a reliable enough basis to evaluate his guilt. i mean..you weren’t there, right? and you haven’t interviewed this guy, right? sooo…hearsay and third party, every bit of information you have.

(a fair trial is appropriate, of course, but that will only happen if the prosecutors feel they have enough evidence to overcome the self-defense claim. aaaand, if they don’t -and so don’t bring the case to trial- enter the claims of institutional racism, etc etc etc)

as for the lynching thing…when a quasi-militant group posts a $10,000 bounty on your head and announces it is trying to organize 5,000 people to hunt you down…i dunno what it matters that “responsible people” aren’t the ones calling for a lynching. frankly, the fact that it’s irresponsible people makes it all the more frightening.

when you first saw a headline about this, before you knew a single tiny little fact outside of “black teenager shot by white man”, who didn’t know messieurs sharpton and jackson would be grabbing the nearest soapbox, and huge swaths of the country would have opinions before they had facts?

the whole thing is a mess, and the truth is apparently beside the point. none of us know what went down, but that hasn’t paused the conclusions being drawn on each side. sides drawn along utterly predictable lines.

Mar 25, 2012 7:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sharonann wrote:

So far I have posted twice and have yet to see it. Please post or do you only post those that are favorable to the Left.

Mar 25, 2012 8:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
LordCheeto1 wrote:

For the people not happy with Zimmerman not being arrested by the police or charged by the DA the LAW provides you a final opportunity to seek your form of “justice”. It is called a grand jury. Read up on it. If you are able to convince a grand jury then a grand jury indictment will supercede the DA’s opinion and force charges to be brought. However, instead we have Black Panthers comitting conspiracy to kidnapp, threats by black community, etc. The same law that people are accusing Zimmerman of not following they themselves are not following. The process of law was established to prevent this very situation of mob justice.

Mar 25, 2012 8:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

I would say the fact that the kid was wandering in a “gated” community is pretty compelling to determine who was and wasn’t supposed to be there. I also like the fact that we are still trying to spin this into something racial. It’s a tragedy and nothing more for everyone involved. 6’3″ kid takes on dude and throws him to the ground and dude shoots kid, there really is nothing more to say.

Mar 25, 2012 8:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
kicklibsout wrote:

mob rule. demoncrat’s specialty.

Mar 25, 2012 8:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jtwg50 wrote:

It is incredible to me that the media is not reporting the fact that Trayvon Martin was 6’3″ tall and that the “little boy” photos that have been shown were apprently very old — and misleading. A Tampa TV station has also reported that the police have an eyewitness who saw the whole thing and said Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, who was bloody after the incident. When the truth finally does come out, if Trayvon was the aggressor at the critical moment, an awful lot of people are going to look very bad. But for now, once again the presumption of innocence that our system is supposedly based on has been massively violated in the names of “racism” and “justice.” It is appalling to anyone who gives a damn about either one.

Mar 25, 2012 8:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Farley58 wrote:

“It seems Joe Oliver and Geraldo Rivera are in agreement that this senseless shooting is somehow Trayvon Martin’s fault,” Benjamin Crump said, referring to the celebrity journalist’s comment that “Trayvon Martin would be alive today but for his hoodie.”

“Had Zimmerman simply stayed in his vehicle, Trayvon Martin would be pursuing his dreams,” Crump said.

He would be alive today had he not attacked Zimmerman too…but apparently he couldn’t do that.

Mar 25, 2012 8:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
goofygoof wrote:

Well, it looks like Obama stuck his big ears in it again, once again proving how racist he really is. And if Obama had this guy as a son in Chicago, here’s the facts from Chicago: This kid would have had a 68% chance to have been in trouble with the law by now. This kid would have a 50% chance of dying before the age of 35. This kid would have not had graduated like 81% of his other black friends. Obama shows himself to once again be out of touch with reality, and always goes back to his racist past.

Here we have a black man saying that all this racial stuff about Zimmerman is unwarranted. Furthermore the police have a witness that saw Zimmerman on the ground yelling for help and proof that Zimmerman got attacked. The black kid initially was walking toward Zimmerman (when I was 17, if I was walking in the dark to my house, and someone was following me in a car, I would have taken off running toward my house and then called the cops, or in this case, would have called from my cell phone as I was running).

BTW, for those that don’t understand who you are talking to when you call 911, that person on the tape is not an officer. They are dispatchers only! They do not have the authority of an officer, fireman, or doctor. The “dispatcher” did not “order” Zimmerman to not follow this kid. His words were, “We don’t need you to do that.” How anyone gets that this is an order from police to not follow him is beyond me.

The idiot that said, “Zimmerman called the cops 46 times in 56 days about supposed intruders into his neighborhood. It sure sound bad for him, but let’s get all of the facts.” That actually is good for Zimmerman. 45 times in the last 55 days he did NOT shoot supposed intruders. So why did he do it this time? BECAUSE HE WAS BEING THREATENED AND ASSAULTED!

Every single clue that we know of as fact proves that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense. More could come out and it be the opposite. BUT IT HASN’T YET!

Black people kill more black people than white people. So are black people racist against their own race? Some of the commenters’ conclusions on here would support that they believe that. That’s how dumb some of the commenterS on here are.

Mar 25, 2012 8:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
yankee13 wrote:

Are $$$ bounties by organizations legal in America? Is the mob mentality taking over? I thought that Hispanic was considered a valuable voting block and minority in Florida but now is it considered a white, racial hate crime because it fits someone’s cause? Bob Zimmerman should write a song about this one!

Mar 25, 2012 8:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DiogenesIII wrote:

First time that I have ever read the term “White Hispanic”, Guess that it is the term that advances the narrative of the Race Pimps, very telling, thank you Reuters for that. Also, before we lynch George maybe we could have a trial, then hang him. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? A “White Hispanic”, never mind.

Mar 25, 2012 8:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Danny331911 wrote:

250lb 5′ something Zimmerman chased down a 17yrld High School Football Running-back?

Zimmerman who is NOT white had a bloody nose and cuts to the back of his head…

Reported phone conversation just before the incident showed Martin confronting Zimmerman with “Why are you following me”…

Not chasing but “”following”" as in keeping an eye on a suspicious person… By a community Watch Volunteer who is there to “keep an eye out for suspicious persons” and report to the Police…

Zimmerman was on the phone with the Police… Said ok when told by dispatcher to not follow… Again FOLLOW NOT CHASE… No one says anything in the phone conversations about chasing.

Martin had been expelled from school… For what? Maybe… fighting?

Who was yelling help… Initial report stated it was Zimmerman yelling for help… Eye witness that did not know either Martin or Zimmerman says it was Zimmerman on the bottom being beat in the face by Martin… Also stated to Police that Zimmerman was the one screaming for help…

News crucifying Zimmerman as being a racist, chasing down a young boy to shoot him. Coky Roberts and many others state as fact that Zimmerman is “off” as in not right in the head…

News constantly shows mug shot of Zimmerman from an arrest several years ago that he was not charged in while repeatedly showing pictures of Martin at age 12 wearing his football uniform. Wonder why they have not bothered to find a more recent photo….

This does need to be “”investigated”" by the Florida Justice Department but it appears that a racial railroading is occurring…

Remember… Zimmerman is NOT white… Was the one screaming for help… Martin on February 26th, 2012 was not the 12 year old showed in the pictures being plastered all over the media. But the facts do not seem to matter in this case or any other case that Al Sharpton gets involved in…

Mar 25, 2012 8:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jleonard14 wrote:

Sooo…George is a “white Hispanic”. And President Obama is a …white African American”…right? You see that if a black perpetrator allegedly kills a white person in this scenario it would be a “rush to judgement”. But in this case, it’s worth an immediate $10,000 bounty. Got it?

Mar 25, 2012 8:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bushsucks12 wrote:

Here is a conclusion we are not jumping to…..”Are you following him?”

“Yeah” …….OK we don’t need you to do that. We don’t need you to follow him”

Mar 25, 2012 8:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
lolyeahright wrote:

Trayvon Martin was a drug dealer http://i42.tinypic.com/wkpt6r.jpg

Mar 25, 2012 8:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Danny331911 wrote:

cogboy wrote: “please tell me how zimmerman would be able to determine who is an unfamiliar person in a neighborhood where he himself was unsure of what street he was on? his story is a very sloppy “make it up as you go” debacle that could have been avoided if he had properly been arrested and read his rights. give ‘em enough rope…”
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I’ve lived in several neighborhoods that I didn’t know all of the streets. I’ve been living in one now for five years and there are several streets that I don’t know the name to. If it isn’t needed on giving directions to others coming to visit then why would I? so your “make it up as you go” applies more to your posts that to anything Zimmerman has said. At least he has a witness who was interviewed by police back up his story. He also didn’t know at the time who Zimmerman was other than the person on the ground being attacked while screaming for help. Stand your ground is a good law. And crime has gone down significantly because of it. If any of the Medias’ talking heads comments about this case were true (and they’re not) but if they were then the Stand Your Ground Law wouldn’t apply.

Mar 25, 2012 8:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
vrytix wrote:

Far more than enough has been said so far to determine Zimmerman’sguilt than is necessary before we even know that the Sanford Police covered for him.

Now that state and federal authorities are investigating, we will presumably get a grand jury decision, based on evidence, as to Zimmerman’s guilt which so many prominent people have already decided.

As for Zimmerman’s alleged racial slur, a CNN audio engineer amplified the sound on a 911 tape to try to confirm what was said. He couldn’t make it out. But, others, without that expertise, decided it was a slur.

Was Zimmerman attacked from behind by Martin as a “witness” has said? I don’t know. Would that make a difference? I don’t know.

That’s why, even though it looks bad for Zimmerman, I’ll await more news from Florida about what exactly happened and why before I make any further comment.

Mar 25, 2012 8:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Saying “OK, we don’t need you to do that” isn’t the same as being told not to follow someone. Was more than that said to Zimmerman by the 911 voice?

The pictures I’ve seen of Trayvon Martin seem to be of someone maybe thirteen or fourteen years old. Are three- or four-year-old pictures of him being used? If so, why? Are there no more recent pictures. Note: I read somewhere that Trayvon Martin was six feet two inches tall — but the kid in the photographs appears to be much smaller.

None of these would in any way justify the teenager’s being shot, but I’m wondering if the story is being spun to Zimmerman’s disadvantage.

Mar 25, 2012 8:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
littleleers wrote:

The leftist mob needs to be careful about judging Zimmerman via the media and the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Obama.

This case in its ability to whip up a frenzy by the left is similar to the Duke-LaCrosse accusations of rape by a black strip tease dancer. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and every lefty gave their opinion about how guilty the Duke partiers were.

Only until ALL the facts were gathered did it turn out that the guys were innocent, proven by cell phone records and other evidence. The Mob was calling for those college student’s head on a pike!

Now, we need to let the law investigate this and demand (as Obama should have done) that the authorities look into this, gather their evidence and be allowed to do their job without the public’s prejudice interfering.

Mar 25, 2012 9:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
joeaverageman wrote:

What exactly is a “white Hispanic?” And why does Reuters insist on using that term?

Mar 25, 2012 9:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BlueDuck wrote:

Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic

Obama, 50, a white African American

??????????????????????????????????????

Mar 25, 2012 9:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JohnSchmidt wrote:

edward, what are you smoking?? Al Sharpton, Spike Lee, et al are calling for his lynching. Offering $10,000 DEAD or alive ?

Fair trial ???? After he is swinging. He has been convicted already.

Mar 25, 2012 9:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
LeftyJax wrote:

The two-faced nature of these racists just irks the bejesus out of me.

Martin Luther King, Jr, would be so disappointed in them. They are judging someone by the color of their skin rather than on their deeds.

But racists like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and the Black Panthers don’t seem to care about seeking a truth. Just a point to exploit.

Not to mention conspiracy to commit murder, kidnapping, inciting a riot, and so on.

They are so two faced. And have no value except for people who judge on emotions rather than facts and laws.

Mar 25, 2012 9:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Voxhalyn wrote:

So because Zimmerman is 1/2 white and 1/2 Hispanic he is now a “White Hispanic”?

Guess that makes Obama a White african American.

Or do these confusing, watered down labels only apply when employed by liberals attempting to race bait?

Mar 25, 2012 9:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ValueandRisk wrote:

I understand before the gun carry laws were initiated in Florida, tourists were scared to go to there for fear of carjacking. Once carjackers understood their intended victims could be armed they stopped.

I am a Canadian. It is still cool here on the west coast, what you call the Pacific North West. I need some time on a beach. Wild rhetoric like I am hearing now in your country can lead to civil unrest. I am booking a vacation tomorrow. I weighed the risk against the the value. With your present situation in the US, I have pretty much decided to go to Mexico. I know lots of Americans won’t go to Quebec because of the French issue and I don’t blame them. People spend their vacations where they feel safe comfortable. Your leaders might want to stop and think before they kill tourism.

Mar 25, 2012 9:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
milestocode wrote:

“Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic, shot Trayvon Martin, 17″

What in God’s name is a white Hispanic? As opposed to an Asian Hispanic or a Black Hispanic?

Is there an editor in charge there?

Mar 25, 2012 9:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SugarDad wrote:

The ‘authorities” did nothing for 2 weeks until the public got riled up in massive numbers. Give us a bit of credit, not lectures.

Mar 25, 2012 9:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Derric wrote:

So, Reuters calls Zimmerman a “white hispanic”? Huh? Does this mean President Obama is a “white African American”? Come on. Stop trying to paint everything in terms of race.

Mar 25, 2012 10:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Funny though, it is not even about race. It is about the worthless police. The 911 tapes are evidence enough that it was not self defense, racism should only become an issue in court when deciding if it was a hate crime.

Mar 25, 2012 10:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Max17 wrote:

Still no mention of the eyewitness to the fighting that places Martin on top of and beating Zimmerman who was screaming “Help me! Help me!”

Oh well, it’s just Reuters. What could the only eyewitness to the fight know anyway? It’s not like anyone comes here to gather all the facts.

Mar 25, 2012 10:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Titainiumman wrote:

Now that an eye witness has come forward, and validated Zimmermans claim that it was self defense,Jessie And Al will be seen for the racists they truly are. Obama said that if had a son he would look just like trayvon,doe he mean that he to would be another black teen thug.

Mar 25, 2012 10:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Titainiumman wrote:

Now that an eye witness has come forward, and validated Zimmermans claim that it was self defense,Jessie And Al will be seen for the racists they truly are. Obama said that if had a son he would look just like trayvon,doe he mean that he to would be another black teen thug.

Mar 25, 2012 10:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
patches12 wrote:

a “white” hispanic.. am I the only one who doesn’t know what that is??

Does he does he not get to check “minority” on a government form?

BTW… can we all say “Duke Lacrosse team”…
if only the race hustlers like Sharpton and Calypso Louie Farrhakahn would get outraged at the non-stop Black on Black crime that is responsible for the death of so many Black youth…

but there seems to be no money in that…

Mar 25, 2012 10:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
WillyT wrote:

white hispanic ? just have to get white in there and no i don’t think zimmerman was in the right.

Mar 25, 2012 10:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
OhOkThen wrote:

Ok so this Hispanic guy “allegedly” shot this teen. I said allegedly, yes this is allegedly, remember the Nov 6 shooting at Fort Hood with the “alleged Muslim-Gunman that allegedly killed 30 something people in alleged cold-blood”. All the news says this Muslim is an alleged gunman, even though peopel acutually witness this shooting, unlike this one. If that is alleged then this is too.

Mar 25, 2012 10:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
weeweedup wrote:

Hey jacka$$’s at Reuters, WTF is a “white Hispanic”? Will Reuters now refer to Obama as a “white African American”?

Mar 25, 2012 10:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dpent wrote:

Good thing he was not a “black” Hispanic instead of a “white” Hispanic – better yet, good thing he was not a Latin Hispanic or a Mexican Hispanic.

Who the heck writes a stupid sentence like “Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic, shot Trayvon Martin,”

Mar 25, 2012 10:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Maxwells wrote:

Trayvon’s girlfriend heard over the phone… “why you following me man?”

She told him “run away”… Trayvon replied… “I ain’t running no place” then the phone cut off.

So was Trayvon angry and attacked Zimmerman for following him?
Who knows, it’s now up to law enforcement to collect facts and eye witness accounts and let the grand jury decide if Zimmerman should be prosecuted, Not the racist mob.

Mar 25, 2012 10:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

A white hispanic is one who is more white looking. I’ve seen some pretty ignorant comments above like, “an Asian hispanic” or “black hispanic”, well guess what, there are “black hispanics” look at all the ball players from Dominican Republic. In this guys case, since his last name is Zimmermann, I’m assuming he’s half white; but according to Federal classifications if you are half hispanic and half white you are hispanic. So yes, he’s a white hispanic.

Mar 25, 2012 11:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jesusland wrote:

A “white hispanic”? Seriously? The Lib media up to their old tricks again. Obama looks whiter than this Zimmerman guy does.

Mar 25, 2012 11:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rimmini2 wrote:

First I have seen the picture of Zimmerman and he is NOT white. He is very much hispanic but that is neither here nor there. Second, standing your ground means that if someone breaks into your house you have the right to defend you property. It does NOT mean that you can chase the offender beyond the confines of your property. However, here is where people are jumping to conclusions…When the two began to fight. Who threw the first punch, who was the eminate threat life at that time. IF Zimmerman was indeed being beaten by Martin ( as appears to be the case) then this is a matter of selfdefense (NOT standing your ground). If, however, Zimmerman was not in jeopardy then he has a very big problem. Should Zimmerman have simply called the police and let it go…yes. But that is not the issue. The issue is whether or ot he acted in self defence when the two ACTUALLY struggled.

Mar 25, 2012 11:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
qurancorrupt wrote:

George Zimmerman is a BROWN Latino, not white Latino. American Indians are a race and the majority of Peruvians, which Zimmerman is, are Indian. Even when you look at his photo he is Brown Latino. There are more races than black and white you know. The majority of Latinos in the USA are Mestizos which means they have Indian blood.

Also many people are pointing out an important fact. If George Zimmerman is “white” Hispanic because he has a white parent…than Obama is white African-American since he also has a white parent.

Mar 25, 2012 12:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Danny331911 wrote:

bushsucks12 wrote: Here is a conclusion we are not jumping to…..”Are you following him?” “Yeah” …….OK we don’t need you to do that. We don’t need you to follow him”

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You missed the part about Zimmerman saying in the tape “OK” in answer to the Police’s statement about following (“”following”" as in NOT CHASING). But by your moniker I can understand you not being on top of the facts. Also notice that even you said “following” as in a community watch (not a bad thing) following someone suspicious and reporting it to police. That is what they are supposed to do. Remember in your comment that Zimmerman was on the phone, and WHO was he on the phone to???

I wonder what many of you lynchers out there making all of the silly comments said about a “Rush to Judgement” right after OJ nearly cutting off the heads of two people???

Mar 25, 2012 12:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Disavowed wrote:

Jorge’ Zimmerman

Mar 25, 2012 12:53am EDT  --  Report as abuse
fromthecenter wrote:

The guy screwed up, plain and simple. It could be anybody’s kid or brother or cousin. That was the point that the president was trying to make. The other point is, what the hell is with the wild west mentality of this country? What should be reviewed and discussed is this idea that you can have untrained, armed neighborhood watchers walking the streets at night. If it was my kid, that would be the question I would be asking.

Mar 26, 2012 1:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kane4 wrote:

Great, stupid conservative, racist trolls all up in the comment section. I’m a young white man, but I’ve lived all over the world, and learned how to get along with people that are different from me. As for these depressing goons, I’ll be laughing long and hard when they learn what it means to be a minority, 20, 30 years down the line when white people aren’t ruling the planet anymore! The age of white colonialism and bigotry is coming to end, and lord have mercy on these delusional fools when they feel the sting of prejudice. Is it any coincidence that the majority of these puffy, red-faced tea party fools are just frustrated, impotent, middle-aged white men–guess now that America has lost more or less every military conflict since WWII and the American economy has been revealed for the idiotic farce that it is, they’re realizing that the world doesn’t belong to the White-Man anymore, so they cling desperately to the bigoted, backward days when they were in charge. They spew vitriol and small-minded racial insults toward Obama whenever they can, but they’re utterly unable to conceal that beneath this veneer of righteous anger that they’re just frightened, hysterical little men. I love that.

Mar 26, 2012 1:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
reider wrote:

A brown man kills a black kid and whites get the blame? only in Amerika

Mar 26, 2012 1:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PhillupSpace wrote:

I watched CBS NEWS on Channel 2 in Reno Saturday while on a visit there. The entire inflammatory report on Trayvon Martin DID NOT ONCE mention that there was an eye witness, or that Zimmerman was the one calling for help. Later, I watched Fox Newswatch which pretends to report on Media Bias and they too, made no mention of the Zimmerman side of the story or that there was an eye witness report that accounted for the police not charging Zimmerman. So much for Fair And Balanced!

Mar 26, 2012 1:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PeterGee wrote:

Oh , so now we have “white Hispanics” just to make sure the media reinforces their “race shooting” narrative? Could that be like “mixed race Presidents” that somehow never get mentioned by the same media? How “white” does a Hispanic have to be to jump the barrier into the media’s definition? The “one drop of Indian blood rule”? (Zimmerman looks like he had a few Aztecs in the family line). A few drops of Indian and one mestizo great-grandparent? Whjat about those other categories “half-white” and “almost black” Hispanics?

Mar 26, 2012 2:08am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PeterGee wrote:

@kane4, well if you have lived all over the world you will know that racism is a universal fact, and has been practised by every racial group that exists ( we have had plenty of black empires in history too ruling others in Africa), and is not just a function of American society or history. You have “learned to get along” but a minority everywhere you go, hates you for being a “gringo”, “a honky” or “foreign devil”. I say minority – so don’t please come the Jesus till you encounter pure hatred that even your “I -am-white-and-guilty” stance will not solve. And before you call me racist too, like most liberals will, my wife is Afro-Asian and we have a “white Afro Asian” daughter.

Mar 26, 2012 2:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Letthelawwork wrote:

OK,

First of all “hispanic is not a race”. There are white Hispanics, Black Hispanics, Native American Hispanics and mix of all of the above.

It is a cultural thing. A common denominator, even though there are significant racial differences between many of the countries in Central America, South America and the Caribbean. The problem is that in the US, people of all races who have a Spanish surname or come from a Spanish Speaking country are dumped in the same bucket. For example, would a Cuban Jew be called white or hispanic? How about a Black Cuban, Dominican, Panamenian or Brazilian? An Argentine whose paternal grandparents came from Italy and speaks Spanish only? How about a Peruvian whose ancestors are Inca and only speaks Spanish? He has no “Spanish blood”?

So, the question is not the race of either party. The question is the legality of the shooting? Was it self defense under the law? That is the only question that really needs to be answered. Also, the Florida law that people claim that was broken, does not apply in this case so how can it even be relevant to the argument?

Both sides have to let the system work!

Mar 26, 2012 2:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
RedBear57 wrote:

Trayvon, George, the Martin family and the Zimmerman family all deserve to have a grand jury convene on this matter. If there is enough evidence that a crime was committed, then there also needs to be a trial. If not, then it should be over. If George Zimmerman really is innocent, I would think he would be the loudest voice of all asking for this in order to clear his name.

What needs to change here is that a neighborhood watch person should not be allowed to carry a lethal weapon and should not be engaging anyone they feel is a suspicious person. Instead, they should carry ONLY radios with emergency call buttons and/or cell phones with the ability to call the watch commander directly so that actual police officers can investigate at an elevated priority. The watch person is eyes and ears for the real police, not a substitute for the police.

Had Zimmerman the wannabe followed instructions and waited for the police to come, Trayvon Martin would still be alive.

Mar 26, 2012 3:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ConstFundie wrote:

For those confused over white-hispanic please read this comment from a previous article by a person with the tag XXYYZZ:

“Not sure why everyone is so concerned about whether Zimmerman is white or Hispanic. Actually, he appears to be a white Hispanic. Do a little research, geniuses, and you’ll learn that “Hispanic” or “Latino” refers to ethnicity, not race. There is no “Hispanic race.” Hispanics can be white or black.”

from: http://www.reuters.com/article/comments/idUSBRE82N0CU20120324

Mar 26, 2012 3:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ralphooo wrote:

Opportunistic politicians try to encourage the idea that guns are wonderful and everyone should be carrying one around. Don’t they realize that death hurts? It seems so obvious.

Mar 26, 2012 3:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rikkilulu wrote:

White Hispanic is someone Caucasian of Latin origin or if you prefer of Latin ethnicity. There are also black Hispanics. Hispanic is refers to an ethnicity not a “race”.

Mar 26, 2012 4:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Brockc wrote:

Kind of a leap to say that Geraldo was saying it was Trayvons fault. I saw what he said. Sounds more like a media matters interpretation.

He said, “When you see a kid walking down the street, particularly a dark-skinned kid like my son Cruz, who I constantly yelled at when he was going out wearing a damn hoodie or those pants around his ankles,” Rivera said, as he continued on to argue that there is an “instant association” with someone that is wearing a hoodie.

“It’s those crime scene surveillance tapes. Every time you see someone sticking up a 7-Eleven, the kid’s wearing a hoodie. Every time you see a mugging on a surveillance camera or they get the old lady in the alcove, it’s a kid wearing a hoodie. You have to recognize that this whole stylizing yourself as a gangsta — you’re going to be a gangsta wannabe? Well, people are going to perceive you as a menace,” he said.

“When you see a black or Latino youngster, particularly on the street, you walk to the other side of the street. You try to avoid that confrontation,” Rivera continued. “Trayvon Martin, God bless him, an innocent kid, a wonderful kid, a box of Skittles in his hands. He didn’t deserve to die. But I bet you money, if he didn’t have that hoodie on, that nutty neighborhood watch guy wouldn’t have responded in that violent and aggressive way.”

And since everyone in the country is so eager to divide the country on gender, war on women, and race, all whites are racist and we need to do some soul searching, and womens health care rights to force a religious institution to by birth control which is basically free now under Title 10.

How about during the election year we talk about Obamas record, what the differing visions are for America and go from there.

The media is complicit, everyone knows where they stand, it’s no secret.

But at least try to uphold your responsibility as described in the constitution. It would help if you didn’t ALWAYS play along with the Democrats.

Mar 26, 2012 5:08am EDT  --  Report as abuse
williams45 wrote:

Zimmerman’s actions on his suspicions (regardless of his motivation) should have ceased once the 911 operator asked him to stop following Martin. Any actions taken after that point should be treated as an altercation between two individuals in a public space that resulted in a death. I doubt there is any evidence to identify who started the fight between the two. If we assume that both parties equally took part in starting the fight, then the only facts we need to consider are that Zimmerman was armed and Martin was fatally shot. Zimmerman should be charged with manslaughter. The courts can decide on the sentencing if he’s found guilty. Florida has fairly strong manslaughter sentencing guidelines, so Zimmerman could face up to 15 years. If the courts feel that race played a part in the killing, that can be factored into the sentencing. However if Zimmerman followed Martin due to racial to motivations it does not necessarily mean that he shot him because of the same motivations. I believe this should be treated as a fight that resulted in a killing. Many fights result in fatal shootings each year and I don’t see why it should be difficult to handle this incident the same as any other fatal altercation. Let’s leave race out of this case…hate crime charges should only be brought when the crime was clearly driven by hate.

Mar 26, 2012 5:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PDenoli wrote:

Are we supposed to know who Benjamin Crump is? Perhaps a character from Meet The Crumps?

For now, this is the bottom line: “All these people who are threatening George, what makes them any better than the person they think he is?” Oliver said. “You’ve got all these people wanting to lynch the man and they don’t know the whole story. There are huge gaps that are being filled in and interpreted without evidence.”

Mar 26, 2012 7:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PDenoli wrote:

Yeah, I hadn’t heard the term “white Hispanic” before now. Just sounds to me like the Dems found another group of people they want to split-up and pit against each other.

“I ain’t like HIM, I ain’t no WHITE hispanic!” The hatred is palpable.

Mar 26, 2012 7:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CindySpazz wrote:

The criticism is withering? I don’t think the criticism is withering at all.

Mar 26, 2012 7:59am EDT  --  Report as abuse
jimvit1 wrote:

The media and celebrities should get out of the prosecution and defense of these types of cased. All they do is fuel the fires with incomplete and unsubstantiated stories..

Mar 26, 2012 8:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gsavage wrote:

Unless Eric Holder can take control and plant the big lie solidly, it is highly likely this story will go the way of every other race hustling lie. Like the college students caught in lies about racial abuse, this kid will probably turn out to be the product of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton–remember Tawana Brawley–and the damage will already be done.

We have a biased and incompetent press to thank for the coming violence, but rest assured the same media will find a way to blame it on their usual suspects.

Mar 26, 2012 8:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SoulLeister wrote:

zimmerman called 911 reported a suspicious person in the gated community where he lives (trayvon does not live there)… he seemed to be casing the

place (standing and checking out the buildings and cars… that’s what’s on the tape… then he noticed zimmerman’s car and walked towards it (close

enough for zimmerman to describe the button on his hoodie) and when tryavon saw zimmerman was on the phone he turned and ran… not down the street to

leave, not to the exit a hundred feet away… no trayvon runs inbetween the buildings (to hide???) Zimmerman pleads with the cops to hurry and then

gets out of his truck… they tell him not to follow (CNN stops the tape here, racebaiting DNC script readers) zimmerman does not run after trayvon…

he tells the cops to hurry trayvon is out of sight… and continues to talk to the dispatcher for almost two minutes… not the story CNN has been

telling… it never made any sense that the pudgy 28 year old ran down the SIX FOOT football athlete BECAUSE HE DID NOT. Zimmerman should have stayed

with his car… then TRAYVON (laying in wait… hiding in the dark) would not have jumped him from his hiding place, would not have knocked zimmerman to the ground… would not have gotten on him and tried to beat him to death… witness told the police they saw zimmerman calling for help… that when on for over a minute… no one came… zimmerman had to resort to the last resort… the murderous trayvon would not stop attacking zimmerman… and the hood got what he deserved… zimmerman could just as easily been a cop doing his job or someones son or daughter out walking their dog… trayvon had no business hiding on private property and attacking anyone walking by… zimmerman (who could have shot him anytime prior to when he did shoot him, exercised restraint until after he had been beaten “senseless’… that’s what there are witnesses too and that is what is actually on the 911 call not the highly edited version CNN played… didn’t they complain about Brieghtbart editing a NAACP speach but its okay for them to do it???? that makes them hypocrites racist/hypocrites.

Mar 26, 2012 8:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mad4ugirl wrote:

If Traynon was so innocent then why had Zimmerman been beaten in the face and head by Trayvon? Was Zimmernam supposed to allow Trayvon to beat the crap out of him without defending himself? Trayvon was 6 feet tall 160 Ibs. He is a big boy. Zimmerman is 5ft 9in 175 lbs. Over the previous 12 months Mr. Zimmerman neighborhood had been subjected to approximately 14 home robberies. One of the home robbed was a home invasion where the robber used a steel pipe on the home owner. Primary things stolen in all the robberies were Xbox, Cell phones, Wii, Lap top computer, DVD and jewelry. One several occasions’ suspects were caught red handed with stolen merchandise and in several occasions’ suspects were Juveniles because they would not release their names.

It is amazing how none of the facts matter, or the fear that people were living in. Living in fear of someone breaking into your home and beating you with a pipe. A 17 year old 6 foot tall 160 lbs man not a boy as depicted in the new media pictures did inflict injuries on Mr. Zimmerman in the face and head. The neighborhood was having frequent major break-in issues. No secret, everyone was aware. Look at the number of 911 calls for a gunshot 9+ calls. Zimmerman should not have follow Trayvon and Trayvon should not have been in the neighborhood looking suspicious. Why didn’t Trayvon’s mom and dad make sure Trayvon stayed away from that area because of all the crime and violent crime? I do not let my kids go into crime ridden areas. My 17 year old is not going to be out at night, in the rain, alone. Where were his parents? Why was a boy, a minor out at night in the rain in a dangerous neighborhood by himself? Just curious. Could Trayvon be up to no good? How many times had Trayvon been arrested as a juvenile for theft over $300 in the previous 12 months?

Mar 26, 2012 8:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Kevin8er wrote:

A “white hispanic”? way to twist your article Rueters! I guess from now on when you mention Obama, you will be referring to him as a “white african-american”. The press and black (so called)leaders want him to be white sooooo bad, that they are willing to make up a racial class. UN FREAKIN BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!

Mar 26, 2012 8:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SoulLeister wrote:

zimmerman called 911 reported a suspicious person in the gated community where he lives (trayvon does not live there)… he seemed to be casing the

place (standing and checking out the buildings and cars… that’s what’s on the tape… then he noticed zimmerman’s car and walked towards it (close

enough for zimmerman to describe the button on his hoodie) and when tryavon saw zimmerman was on the phone he turned and ran… not down the street to

leave, not to the exit a hundred feet away… no trayvon runs inbetween the buildings (to hide???) Zimmerman pleads with the cops to hurry and then

gets out of his truck… they tell him not to follow (CNN stops the tape here, racebaiting DNC script readers) zimmerman does not run after trayvon…

he tells the cops to hurry trayvon is out of sight… and continues to talk to the dispatcher for almost two minutes… not the story CNN has been

telling… it never made any sense that the pudgy 28 year old ran down the SIX FOOT football athlete BECAUSE HE DID NOT. Zimmerman should have stayed

with his car… then TRAYVON (laying in wait… hiding in the dark) would not have jumped him from his hiding place, would not have knocked zimmerman to the ground… would not have gotten on him and tried to beat him to death… witness told the police they saw zimmerman calling for help… that went on for over a minute… no one came… zimmerman had to resort to the last resort… the murderous trayvon would not stop attacking zimmerman… and the hood got what he deserved… zimmerman could just as easily been a cop doing his job or someones son or daughter out walking their dog… trayvon had no business hiding on private property and attacking anyone walking by… zimmerman (who could have shot him anytime prior to when he did shoot him, exercised restraint until after he had been beaten “senseless’… that’s what there are witnesses too and that is what is actually on the 911 call not the highly edited version CNN played… didn’t they complain about Brieghtbart editing a NAACP speach but its okay for them to do it???? that makes them hypocrites racist/hypocrites.

Mar 26, 2012 8:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SoulLeister wrote:

Obama pined, if he had a son he would have looked like trayvon… funny he never equates his likeness to black murderers… his son would have looked like them too… sounds racist? THAT IS WHAT OBAMA SOUNDS LIKE.

obama said, if he had a son we would have looked like trayvon… that means the over 2,000 blacks that commit murders against other blacks each year also look like obama’s son too… like father like son… his dad was a (statutory) rapist… if he is gonna claim em for a political advantage… then he damn sure better claim them as the murderous/racist political baggage they are…
note: DOJ website shows over 2,000 blacks are killed by blacks each year and blacks kill three hundred whites each year but only 100 blacks are killed by whites each year (whites and hispanics)… blacks are only 12% of the population but responsible for the majority of murders each year…obama’s sons are the problem)

Mar 26, 2012 8:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mec1 wrote:

Texas uses the terms “White Hispanic” and “White-Non Hispanic” in all demographic tabulation. For most purposes they are lumped together under “White” and in reviewing statistics it is impossible to tell who is Hispanic and who is not. For Example, if Zimmerman had a handgun license in Texas, he would go in the “White” column since there is no category at all for Hispanic. Even if there was such a designation, Zimmerman would have to state his preference since he does not have a hispanic surname… Or he could just change is name to Dylan like another Zimmerman did.

Mar 26, 2012 8:53am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reason8200 wrote:

If Zimmerman is a white hispanic, than 0bama is a white kenyan.

Mar 26, 2012 8:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse

“Had Zimmerman simply stayed in his vehicle, Trayvon Martin would be pursuing his dreams,” Crump said.

Zimmerman was perfectly correct in getting out of his vehicle to try to get a better view of where the black perp was headed, as a neighborhood watch captain. When the 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman following the perp was not a good idea, he replied “o.k.”, returned to his vehicle. On the way back the hooded perp attacked him, knocked him to the ground, causing a gash to the back of his head and began pummeling him in the face, as Zimmerman screamed for help, which has been verified by a witness.

As explained to my son, by the Zimmerman family, this was the facts in the case, which is why the police never arrested Zimmerman. He was fully in his right to defend himself from attack whether or not he followed the perp. Following and observing someone doesn’t constitute a legitimate reason to set upon them and beat them.

The perp was also on 5 day suspension from school, which must have inviolved a pretty serious offense since that’s quite a long suspension by any school’s standard.

Black race hustlers and president Obama have acted shamefully in this matter, and it could escalate into a race war, which would see the black population seriously decimated in numbers.

Mar 26, 2012 9:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse

Is Barrack Obama a “white” African-American?

Mar 26, 2012 9:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
whome.doyou wrote:

He still pursued (hunted) this child because of his biases and killed him. He murdered a child.

Mar 26, 2012 9:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Wyrdless3 wrote:

Zimmerman should be charged with harassment. The statements from trayvons GF clearly show trayvon was in fear for his life since he was being followed around.

Zimmerman obviously confronted trayvon and it didn’t go the way Zimmerman planned so trayvon got shot. What a jerk. Zimmerman should have waited for the cops instead of confronting a black kid for walking through “his” neighborhood.

I can’t wait till he sees his days in court, because Zimmerman richly deserves some justice. If trayvon had been, you know, doing ANYTHING wrong I would feel differently.

Zimmerman is concealed carry, with great power comes greater responsibility, and he needs his day in court so everyone knows what happened.

Mar 26, 2012 9:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
freods wrote:

Nice try Reuters with your “white Hispanic” racial nonsense. Do Margaret Sanger and Adolf Eichman work for you guys? And I thought they were dead along with the 1 drop rule of slavery days. But I guess the narrative has to be advanced regardless.

Mar 26, 2012 10:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
johnlcallaway wrote:

If all of those morons wearing hoods want to offer up any shred of evidence to disprove this account, please let the police know. Otherwise, you are just out for revenge for now what appears to be a black, hooded teen beating an older Hispanic man.

Right now, it seems Zimmerman had some good reasons to be suspicious. And I don’t see any facts to dispute that.

BTW .. the story from day one was that Zimmerman had suffered wounds to his head. Yet the vigilantes out there choose to ignore that so they would work up their war drums.

There was no racism here. If anything, it was a young/old thing. I see young people walking around my neighborhood all hours of the night, and wonder what they are up to. But then, I’ve had acts of vandalism against my house, vehicles and landscaping that can only be explained by bored kids needing something to do, with parents that aren’t watching them.

Mar 26, 2012 10:04am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Justsociety wrote:

What would people think if the Aryan nation put a bounty on OJ’s head? This is beyound the pale. The black panther party is instigating violence upon a man with not a single charge against him.It is nothing more than a lynch mob. They are no better than the lynch mobs of the old west.In this country, the rights of the accused to be certified by a grand jury which if they can’t even get a bill of attainder they have not a case. The constitution isn’t suspended because the protest say he is guilty. The man has blacks in his family and he is hispanic. It wasn’t a hate crime , but it is a tragedy.

Mar 26, 2012 10:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
brydog101 wrote:

Many posts here are accurate, some are not- but I will tell you the 100% truth of the matter that will decide this case, which no one else is mentioning here: Zimmerman may have been acting in self defense, but had it not been for Zimmerman’s actions, there would have been no confrontation. As a law enforcement officer I know that any untrained, uncertified, private citizen should not act other than to call the police in situations like this, unless someone’s life is already in danger and they feel they must act. Neighborhood watch is designed to watch, not confront and engage unless absolutely neccesary. Therefore, Zimmerman, who was wrongfully “playing cop”, will most likely get manslaughter, because it was his ill-advised actions that resulted in the shooting. And yes, I am a white conservative (not hispanic)….

Mar 26, 2012 10:13am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Shazam0527 wrote:

@BlaKoffee – you are obviously unaware of the law labeled “Stand your ground” in Florida. In fact numerous states have adopted this law! Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming have adopted “Stand-your-ground” law.
The shooter has already been investigated and evidence (and a witness) has been found that he was on his back, and being attacked. If Trayvon was man enough to do the crime, he was man enough for the consequences. As tragic as this is, it was avoidable by Trayvon not acting in the way he did. Stop being a racist bigot, quit spreading your hate, and become a human being. The White man isn’t out to get you, and fyi – the shooter is hispanic.

Mar 26, 2012 10:18am EDT  --  Report as abuse
VickyBevis wrote:

“I’m a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color,” Oliver said.

Did Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton & the Black Panthers read this or is their stance: “Don’t bother me with the facts; my mind’s already made up.” B.O.’s “addition” to the flames was inappropiate, but then again, when did that ever stop him?

“Had Zimmerman simply stayed in his vehicle, Trayvon Martin would be pursuing his dreams,” Crump said.

True! And just what WERE those dreams? I read the article 3 times & I still don’t know who “Crump” is?

Mar 26, 2012 10:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse
readthepaper wrote:

What exactly is a “white hispanic”? I have never seen that on any form where it asks for your race.

Mar 26, 2012 10:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
natb1 wrote:

“Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic, shot Tr…..”

Really?….”White Hispanic”?

Is this a new designation? Why isnt it Hispanic caucasian? Ohhh…because theres an agenda of revolution!

Mar 26, 2012 10:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Inchoate_58 wrote:

“White Hispanic?” Now, the LSM has come to that to tweak the vocabulary to fir their agenda(s)?

Mar 26, 2012 10:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Packard wrote:

I guess we are all Hispanics now.

Mar 26, 2012 10:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
frank1111 wrote:

I want to know what a “white hispanic” is… is he multiracial? If so, would you call Obama a “white black”? I am multiracial… would I be called a “white hispanic native-american”? Reuters…. please select one race or none at all.

Mar 26, 2012 10:50am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rational131 wrote:

White hispanic? Does that make Obama a black white? Or a white black? What difference does it make? Until the facts (not rumors, suppositions, inferences, leaps to judgment, kneejerk reactions, and lies)are known, the press and the President, the vigilantes, the opportunists, and the slow of mind should keep their judgments to themselves. Nobody knows precisely what happened except Zimmerman and the witnesses.

Mar 26, 2012 11:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CritThinker wrote:

As one reflects on this tragedy, keep in mind recent rush to judgments like the Duke Lacrosse Team and the Richard Jewel.

Also, its worth reflecting on defense strategies of the immune system, a mechanism forged over billions of years of evolution. There are known autoimmune conditions that are triggered by repeated disease attacks, putting the immune system in a state of heightened vigilence and ultimately attacking the very thing it was designed to protect.

It may turn out that this tragedy was an accident with abscence of malice.

Mar 26, 2012 11:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
honestyinnews wrote:

The media needs to be more responsible with the reporting. This tragic event was made far worse by the media who had to jump right on it with only preliminary information. This needs to stop. The media is responsible for painting this man as a monster to the public. Whatever happened to due process. Now the new black panthers have a hit out on him. You people need to get back to truth in media and stick to the facts. We do not care about the writer’s opinion. Enough is enough!

Mar 26, 2012 11:15am EDT  --  Report as abuse
honestyinnews wrote:

You are a good man Mr. Oliver. Thank you for telling the truth about Mr. Zimmerman.

Mar 26, 2012 11:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ra-Ra wrote:

“many wearing the “hoodie” or hooded sweatshirt that Martin wore in a style popular with black youth.” Ummmm…. the hooded sweatshirt is actually popular with individuals of every race, how shielded your eyes must be to only see that…..unibomber anyone

Mar 26, 2012 11:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Noreaster20 wrote:

I guess Zimmerman must be guilty if “Al (Tawana Brawley) Sharpton” and the “Black Panther’s” says so….
We should first hear all the evidence before conclusions are made. I have a feeling since Zimmerman is Hispanic the blame will default to the “white” establishment, including Police Dept and the local DA’s office.

Mar 26, 2012 11:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
LarrytheKK wrote:

A white Hispanic?

Mar 26, 2012 11:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
honestyinnews wrote:

Does Reuters not allow comments that chastise the media for their hand in this?

Mar 26, 2012 11:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse

His lawyer is really trotting out the “See I’m not a racist, I have a black friend!” argument?

Mar 26, 2012 11:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse
patriot1st wrote:

“Zimmerman called the cops 46 times in 56 days about supposed intruders into his neighborhood. It sure sound bad for him, but let’s get all of the facts.”

Doesn’t the above statement show that Zimmerman doesn’t take things into his own hands? If he was a racist or a vigilante, he wouldn’t call the police, he would do everything on his own. This shows he was scared and wanted back up help.

And why aren’t the main news media reporting how big this kid actually was? He was over 6′ tall, and they keep showing a picture of him as a little kid, in his football uniform, fueling the hate. And why aren’t they reporting that he was on suspension for a week from school, and that’s why he was there staying with his Father’s fiance in that neighborhood.What did he get suspended for from school? You know nothing about this 17 year old! The facts will come out.

Watch, it will show that Trayvon knew he was being followed, and hid and jumped Zimmerman when he came walking by. It’s easy to over power someone larger than yourself, if you do it by surprise.There’s more than what’s being told. And Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, The Black Panthers, are all trying to start a race riot.

Mar 26, 2012 11:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
honestyinnews wrote:

Do not bother commenting here. They will not print it if it makes them look bad.

Mar 26, 2012 11:44am EDT  --  Report as abuse
4103padre wrote:

What makes him a white hispanic? AND why does it even matter, except that you guys in the media are trying to create a story of racism where one doesn’t exist.

A 17 year old isn’t a child except in the legal sense that he is a minor, and a 17 year old man is never unarmed, exactly because he has two arms and two hands, and can threaten, harm, or even kill someone with them.

Did he? I don’t know, and thats because the media’s coverage has been so shoddy, filled with inuendo’s and politically correct narritives of the story. The FACT is that Mr. Zimmerman, whose name is the only thing that is germanic, call the cops on Mr. Martin, because he did not recognize him, the cops told Mr. Zimmerman not to follow Mr. Martin, after that SOMETHING happened (a little unbiased investigative reporting might be nice) resulting in Mr. Martin dying from a gunshot wound. Those are the facts everything else is poor journalism.

Be careful, the race war that you in the media are trying to incite might be good for business, but it is very bad for our country.

Mar 26, 2012 11:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
4103padre wrote:

And to the commentators who say “well he shouldn’t have been carrying a gun” or “shouldn’t have been following him,” whether or not either of these two actions were wise or prudential doesn’t matter. This is still a semi-free country, where a man (or woman) doesn’t need to live in fear, avoiding interactions with strangers lurking around your home and community or walking around unarmed so that you might not hurt someone who attacks you. Unless you can prove that Mr. Zimmerman followed Mr. Martin and gunned him down, then Mr. Zimmerman had every right to observe the stranger in his community, even if the police didn’t think it was a good idea. And the issue of self defense comes down not to the fact that Zimmerman followed him, but what happening in the minutes and seconds before Mr. Zimmerman drew his side arm and fired.

Question: if Mr. Martin did attack Mr. Zimmerman (as has been suggested) and kill him with his bare hands would this be LESS of a tragedy?

Mar 26, 2012 12:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dibbydabby wrote:

“White hispanic”? Really? Thats what you’re going with? Pathetic.

Mar 26, 2012 12:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GTeye wrote:

How come hispanics are only considered “whites” when it is something like this?

I am not hispanic, I am white, but I just don’t understand this.

There will be article after article where hispanics are distances from “whites” for all sorts of reasons..

A black teenager gets killed (not murdered) and now the hispanics are “white”…

There should be more outrage over that then the incident.

Mar 26, 2012 12:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GTeye wrote:

@yeluacmdrawde, Don’t read much past your limited news sources do you?

I guess you missed the black panthers putting a bounty out for him dead or alive…

Mar 26, 2012 12:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Noreaster20 wrote:

Just because “Al (Tawana Brawley) Sharpton” and the “Black (I hate whitey) Panther’s” says Zimmerman is guilty doesn’t make it so…. I have a feeling they thought Zimmerman was “white Jew” and not Hispanic, this is a game changers and the anger & blame will probably default to the “white” establishment (Police Dept and the local DA’s office). We should here all the evidence first before making any conclusions, If Zimmerman is found guilty it should be by a jury of his peers and not by an unruly mob and the bias media.

Mar 26, 2012 12:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jj47473 wrote:

Does it even matter at this point? I appreciate Mr. Oliver trying to clear the air of the racist label, but it does not seem like anything will make a difference at this point. Trayvon has become just another opportunity for the Al Sharptons, Jesse Jacksons, and Black Panthers to demagogue…it seems really foolish even if calculated because the further this goes the greater the chance of igniting the Hispanic community.

Mar 26, 2012 12:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Shag13 wrote:

Has Reuters ever used the term white-Hispanic before? I’m curious why the decision was made to do so here. When talking politics, I’ve never heard Hispanics broken out into white or non-white. Seems to be a very curious choice here.

Mar 26, 2012 12:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Glocker1 wrote:

Laws allowing for self defense in the public arena are impotent without corresponding stand your ground laws. If I am a criminal in a “must retreat” state, I can bully you, threaten you and subsequently force you to retreat in a way that either clears you from my “hood”, or forces you inside your house since you must retreat until you have no other option but to defend your life with deadly force. I now OWN the public spaces that you putatively have a right roam free in.

Even with SYG laws and concealed carry rights, in most states a citizen cannot use deadly force unless the perpetrator crosses four lines: They have to show intent to harm, second, they have to have the ability to harm, third, they must have the opportunity (proximity) to harm, and fourth they must actually try to harm you. Being armed or not is not part of the equation. As a 6’2″ 270 lb man, I can attack a woman with my bare fists and inflict death. Subsequently she is thoroughly justified in pulling a gun and killing me if that is necessary to stop me from killing her.

As for Martin and Zimmerman, remember that Zimmerman had just as much right as Martin to be on that street. I have every right to follow anyone’s path that I want as long as I don’t display harmful intent or confront them in an agressive manner for no reason at all. The police cannot order you from public spaces without justification that your presence will harm someone else or yourself. To argue that the police KNEW there would be a confrontation if Zimmerman continued to keep Martin in his sight is to assign the skill of clairvoyance to the police.

If Martin did attack Zimmerman and if Zimmerman was indeed on his back being pummeled by Martin as has been reported by at least one witness, Zimmerman showed marked restraint in not pulling his gun until it was obvious that he was fully overpowered.

Mar 26, 2012 12:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dankbubba wrote:

1) white hispanics are the liberals way of marginalizing any non-lib approved minority. On the census they don’t want non-libs counted as libs. 2) zimmerman is not hiding from the cops; he is hiding from the racists and the press (big overlap). 3) there is evidence to support zimmerman’s account and some evidence that he showed poor judgement, but even if he was stupid to approach the kid and even if the kid attacked zimmerman out of fear it doesn’t make it murder or racism that zimm shot in self defense.

Mar 26, 2012 1:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
fel121 wrote:

What is a “white hispanic”.

It is a guy born of a Peruvian mother and a Caucasian father.

Mar 26, 2012 1:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
awayneramsey wrote:

Neighborhood watchmen should never be doing the work of law enforcement, neither should they carry weapons. This is nothing more than vigilantism condoned by the locals, no doubt.

Mar 26, 2012 1:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mstamper wrote:

If Zimmerman is not tried and found guilty, there will likely be riots in many American cities. Anyone remember Reginald Denny?

Mar 26, 2012 1:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SoulLeister wrote:

where is the attorney general holder now… the new black panthers and thier liberal celebrities funding their wanted dead or alive movement are all guilty of conspiring to commit felony kidnapping and worse… where is Obama and holder now??? their not taking action makes them coconspiritors too as they are aiding and abetting by not rounding them up… it looks like the white house is in full support of the new black panthers… not condeming them… start the impeachment machine.

Mar 26, 2012 1:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SoulLeister wrote:

having been suspended from school in Miami for punching out a (hispanic) bus driver… trayvon (days away from becoming 18) was in sanford trying to warm up to his dad’s girlfriend so he could live there (in case mom put him out when he dropped out of school at 18 like he planned), lo and behold he is attacking another hispanic in another town (he seems to be a crime wave)… its time for miami police to release trayvon’s ciminal activity records (conveniently withheld because he was a minor)… surely there will be no drug dealing or using from this church going young MAN… no more speculation here than sharpton and jackson are doing. Who doesn’t think, had zimmerman (exercising amazing restratint) not stopped trayvon from beating him to death… trayvon would not have stolen his wallet phone and gun??? Trayvon had his own phone but wasn’t threatened enough to call anyone like the police or go to his dad’s girlfriends home??? Trayvon’s actions are highly suspicious. Please keep guessing about what happened jackson and sharpton…

Mar 26, 2012 2:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ZimmermanDie wrote:

Shame on you, Oliver! How much money did you take for saying this? Have you considered the family of Martin? What would you react if your son was killed like that?

Mar 26, 2012 2:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MargaD wrote:

Where in this statement, below, is President Obama judging? Sounds to me like he is being sympathetic to a family that lost a child. With the public uproar, and not just from the black community, he could not just ignore it. So where in this statement are all you Obama haters getting all these mixed messages you say are there? Faux news?

President Obama has weighed in on the Trayvon Martin case, calling it a tragedy, urging cooperation among law enforcement and “soul searching” among all of us.

“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” the Commander-in-Chief said, underscoring how the issue affected him on a personal, and not just a political or legal, level.

Of what Martin’s parents are suffering through, Obama said:

“I think they are right to expect that all of us are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves, and we are going to get to the bottom of what happened.”

Obama on Trayvon Martin
“Obviously, this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through, and when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”

“I think that every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together – federal, state and local – to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened.”

Mar 26, 2012 2:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MargaD wrote:

Zimmerman or Martin’s race should not have anything to do with it. A ‘neighborhood watch’ guy tracked a young man with a gun and shot him when confronted. Had he stayed in his car like the police told him to, this would not have happened, but he wanted to be the ‘big man’ and stop the thug.

Mar 26, 2012 3:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

This is like the Duke LaCross case all over again.

Mar 26, 2012 3:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cootz wrote:

What neighborhood watch actually has guards posted? And, if I didn’t know this was Florida, I would ask why he had a gun on him. This seems to go above ‘watch’ and becomes like guardian angel dork stuff. Next time, do more ‘watch’ and call the cops on the creeper in the hoodie…

Mar 26, 2012 4:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
kwalyti wrote:

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were both in attendance. Of course the wrong person is going to be called a racist.

Mar 26, 2012 4:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DaWaFo wrote:

Noone will be satisfied until “justice is done”, but is justice finding out all of the facts and making the best determination? Or is justice merely being outraged and presuming that this terrible situation happened because of race and assuming that this man is guilty because we are so angry that a young man was killed? The president’s comments, the continuing search for a racial slur in the 911 call (that may not be there), the Black Panther Party putting a bounty out on the suspect…If all of this visibility and investigation does not support these presumptions, will that be good enough for the public?

Is it possible that when all of the facts are in, it might be an unfortunate accident not related to skin color or it might even be a situation where Martin attacked the shooter first?

Mar 26, 2012 5:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DaWaFo wrote:

Noone will be satisfied until “justice is done”, but is justice finding out all of the facts and making the best determination? Or is justice merely being outraged and presuming that this terrible situation happened because of race and assuming that this man is guilty because we are so angry that a young man was killed? The president’s comments, the continuing search for a racial slur in the 911 call (that may not be there), the Black Panther Party putting a bounty out on the suspect…If all of this visibility and investigation does not support these presumptions, will that be good enough for the public?

Is it possible that when all of the facts are in, it might be an unfortunate accident not related to skin color or it might even be a situation where Martin attacked the shooter first?

Mar 26, 2012 5:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
idannao wrote:

what about trayvon martins right to “stand his ground”? in florida is it the survivor thats right? trayvon martin must have felt threatened and decided to stand his ground. florida must be like the wild wild west and the winner/survivor is right . why is no one asking why treyvon couldn’t “stand his ground”. how does one feel threatened in a car with a gun???????? and the ability to drive on?

Mar 26, 2012 7:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
whiteoak wrote:

God help my grandson. He is part African, Hispanic, Native American and European. Apparently one drop of European blood automatically makes a person a racist.

I will need to teach my grandson to tread carefully.

Mar 26, 2012 7:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
roadtotruth wrote:

I know Oliver would like to over simplify this for his friend, and boil it down to – the shooter is white, the young man is black, and that’s the only reason people think this was racial. But that simply isn’t true. The five times Zimmerman called police about “suspicious” characters, including Trayvon, is when there were black men walking in his neighborhood. All of those calls, it turns out, were about men guilty of nothing but “looking” suspicious to Zimmerman. On the 911 call, I firmly believe Zimmerman said the words “f’ing coon.” Mr. Oliver has been all over television the last two days saying “coon” could have been “goon” which is a term of endearment, he hears. He does not address what that term would meaning with the F word out in front of it during a call where he thinks he’s chasing someone that is “up to no good.” Why on earth would he use a “term of endearment?” Today, I see Oliver has changed that statement to point to people that “call themselves coon asses.” So… is he changing the story to say that “his friend” MIGHT have used the word coon, but LOTS of young people now use it “for fun?” Does Joe Oliver know how ridiculous this sounds? Does he know how insane he appears when he tells us with a straight face that he doesn’t know anybody under 40 who uses the word “coon?” He is as dangerous as people who want the world to believe racism doesn’t really exist any more. Maybe it’s just the last throws of the Klan that still proudly marches through the town of Sanford that still thinks that way. Right? Joe Oliver is embarrassing himself. This whole thing is foolish. I would respect people like Joe and “his friend” George if they would just be honest about George’s fear of young, black men in that community. But they can’t be honest, because then it paints a more accurate picture of what took place. For now, I would ask Joe to ask his friend to f’ing stop carrying a loaded gun around the neighborhood. And when he sees someone suspicious, let ACTUAL, trained law officers deal with it. He could saved himself some tears, and maybe (hopefully) a life sentence behind bars.

Mar 26, 2012 9:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jim-in-OPKS wrote:

A white hispanic … as a reporter YOU are crazy and very bias. Sad, do you realize … YOU are part of the problem. Truth, facts, YOU need to focus on Truth and facts.

Mar 26, 2012 9:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ravenschild wrote:

@Tychicum: Zimmerman derives from the German last name Zimmermann which means carpenter. Within the United States, it is ranked as the 441st-most common surname.Didnt know that pure peruvian natives were also german carpenters.

Mar 27, 2012 7:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CascaRufio wrote:

The article just had to end with a distortion to detract from Oliver’s statement. Oliver never suggested it was Martin’s fault. Even if Martin did turn back and attack, it may have been that he felt threatened and his best chance for survival. Circumstances can create bad results in situations whether neither party had bad intentions. Was Zimmerman wearing a jacket or vest that clearly marked him as neighborhood watch captain? If not, why not? If Martin had known Zimmerman was neighborhood watch, he may also still be alive today. There are plenty of atrocious crimes being committed every day that get little or no attention, with no question as to the fault or intent. Why so much focus on one that is questionable? There may be only one person alive that knows the truth.

Mar 27, 2012 11:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
abaker39 wrote:

Martin probably wasn’t an angel (few 17-year-old boys are) but he sounds like a mostly good boy, no more – or less – stupid than most. Even if Martin was the thug many are trying to make him out to be, even if Zimmerman is no more biased than most of us & jumped to conclusions based on appearances (& it’s very unlikely that race didn’t figure into that) & even if Martin attacked him – Zimmerman’s actions were not justified. Zimmerman has stated what he believed to be the case. Martin can no longer state his. Martin would have seen a strange man following him & he had no way of knowing why. What would anyone have thought in that situation? What would my son have thought? It is highly likely that Martin thought he was defending himself. Zimmerman, being the adult and the responsible party, had no business following Martin. He should have called the cops & backed off. His actions created the situation – and he should be held responsible for them, at least to the extent of a full investigation and presentation of the evidence.

Mar 27, 2012 12:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

This is not about Whites, blacks, people of colors, etc…He has committed a criminal act. He needs to be punished for it like anybody else. He is 28. It shot and killed an unarmed teenager. If I had committed such an act I would have gone to jail. There is no reason he shouldn’t. Balck friends, white friends, it don’t matter at this point.It must pay for his crime.

Mar 27, 2012 2:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Why people making this a race issue and he hasn’t even been arrested yet?
Right now, it should be a “worthless police” issue, wait until he in court to pull the racism view…

Mar 27, 2012 7:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jackooo wrote:

Big Al and Jessee will stir the pot. Obama will do all he can also.
Does anyone know if the reverend Jessee Jackson is paying his illegal mama’s baby her child support? Is it on time? Is his love child a boy or girl?

Mar 28, 2012 2:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jackooo wrote:

This country is sooo racist, they elected Obama as their leader!!

Mar 28, 2012 2:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheGame2 wrote:

@jackooo~what in the name of God does Jesse Jackson “paying his illegal mama’s baby her child support”, or “Is it on time”, of “Is his love child a boy or girl” got to do with this???????
You’re obviously a complete conservative racist. What in the name of God does Obama have to do with this????

Mar 29, 2012 11:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
stambo2001 wrote:

Had the fight gone the other way none of you would ever have heard about it. Zimmerman would be murdered and the media would not care at all as it would have just been yet another murder by a black man. Black youth kill black youth every single day and the black community doesn’t make a peep. Who are the racists here? It was a 17 year old black MAN that gunned down two visiting British lads last year…in Florida. All they did was walk into a ‘black’ neighborhood.

If Zimmerman had not fired his brains would be staining the pavement where Trayvon was trying to murder him. See how easy it is to speculate? It’s even easier to speculate when witnessess and physical evidence suppport your perspective.

Again, where are all these marchers and protesters when black youth kill black youth nearly everyday across the entire united states of america?

Mar 29, 2012 12:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mutt3003 wrote:

Hispanics and blacks in a gated community? Isn’t that what is usually called prison?

Mar 29, 2012 12:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
stambo2001 wrote:

Eddie Murphy had it pegged in this one:

http://www.snotr.com/video/422/Eddie_Murphy_goes_undercover

Mar 29, 2012 12:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
julspaddy wrote:

who is paying this guy? who is paying his lawyer?

Mar 30, 2012 5:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rightous1 wrote:

I see racism every day. This is worst case of racism I’ve seen in years. Politicians jumping on racist bandwagon. Shame on you. I’m afraid the only way for Mr. Zimmerman to recover from this are lawsuits. Luckily, polititians have alot of money.

Mar 30, 2012 11:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UnPartisan wrote:

I love how all of these people in the media and posting here act like they wouldn’t shoot a man that had them pinned to the ground, pounding on their head, breaking their nose, and bashing their skull opened. All of them are hypocrites. Shoot half of them will cross the street to avoid a teenager dressed as trayvon was.

Mar 31, 2012 4:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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