Despite Obama charm, Americas summit boosts U.S. isolation

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biblethumper wrote:

What a kiss up title…Obama charm…??? Obama’s scum who takes from the productive and gives to the non-productive.

Apr 16, 2012 12:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
extraclass wrote:

It seems “charm” is Obama’s only qualification!

Apr 16, 2012 12:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rya wrote:

“Obama charm?” lol

Apr 16, 2012 12:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hobomidget wrote:

Isolationism is a bad thing for the United States from what I hear. Do you think this has something to do with the trigger happy Republican era?

Apr 16, 2012 12:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JuniataDad wrote:

Gee. All it was going to take was CHARM? Why didn’t we send George Clooney?? Look up unqualified in the dictionary and tell me whose picture you see

Apr 16, 2012 12:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
seejeffgo wrote:

If Obama said the US would stop this crazy war on drugs and start diplomatic relations with Cuba he would win the election with about 60% of the vote.

Apr 16, 2012 12:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
IHateAlQeada wrote:

Latin America,Asia,Middle East thinks the US is a bully.

Its either the US Way or the High way. what has become of this great country. I feel really shamed of its Attitude.

Apr 16, 2012 12:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hobomidget wrote:

What are you talking about. How can you call banking fraud, mismanagement and economic chaos productive. Using derivatives to me mess with the stock market, making ponzi schemes. When people are rich is usually because their dishonest and know how to game the system. That is not productive.

Apr 16, 2012 12:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
PNWetc wrote:

Don’t worry: after Wall Street finishes destroying the USA, they will turn their attention back to defrauding and raping the rest of the world again.

Apr 16, 2012 12:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Amskeptic wrote:

biblethumper, perhaps you ought to open your bible instead of grand-standing. I cannot believe that there is one sentient human being under God left in this country who thinks that the problem here is Obama. How about that the greedy have gone rogue. Are you truly not aware that the top 1% saw their incomes go up over 20% in the last three years alone, while we soldier on through this recession? Where do you think Jesus stands with the Republican intransigence against helping the poor and the weak?

Apr 16, 2012 12:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Smallville wrote:

Bible Thumper is an appropriate name for you. And your proof about Obama taking from the Productive and giving to the ‘non productive’ is where? Site any sources? I don’t seem to remember Obama forcing the rich to give to the poor. I do remember him saying that they should have to pay the same taxes like the rest of us.

If you think your Mormon pal Romney is going to be President of the United States..you might as well forget about that joke. America has a growing rate of ‘non productive’ people because people like Mitt Romney have made millions off of pillaging dying companies. And sorry, but that is how a Capitalist economy works. Money is put aside to take care of the poor – if you dont like it – move.. unless you enjoy seeing homeless and jobless people everywhere.

Apr 16, 2012 12:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TerBear wrote:

I agree that the title was badly chosen. The article was more about the erosion of U.S. influence in Latin American countries. President Obama just happens to be at the helm during this latest iteration. Name-calling is a the most childish of techniques, and the self-proclaimed bible-thumper appears to live up to his or her name in that regard.

Apr 16, 2012 12:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
marvilla wrote:

The support for Cuba comes mainly from the envy of the wannabe dictators in the Region, of Castro’s almost 60 years in power, doing whatever he has wanted being the model for Chavez and his ALBA. Absolute power is also what this Cuba Friends want in their own countries. When Cuba is admitted to this Summits it will take the reins as the 30 other presidents will be more than happy to be modeled after It. Can You imagine some of the ignorants who govern some Latin-American countries having lifetime Presidencies?. The result of the Spanish emptying the jails in our land more than 500 yeas ago.

Apr 16, 2012 12:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
larainemh wrote:

Instead of thumping your bible, you might give some thought to opening it and reading some of Jesus’ words like Judge not lest ye be judged or maybe just a general warning about loving and forgiving.

Apr 16, 2012 12:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DWilson wrote:

biblethumper: I guess I am just older school religious than you are. I was brought up to show respect for our leaders, at least those legitimately selected by our community. Even if we don’t disagree with them. Not to call them “scum.” Did neither your parents nor your pastor teach you any manners?

I feel sorry for you. I know I am just blowing my puny breath here against gale force winds of rudeness, crudeness, and incivility on this internet & in this world, but I guess your name “biblethumper” brought it out in me. You appear to understand nothing about the bible, and the lessons of humility and kindness that Jesus Christ is trying to teach you. I pity you, you are so busy “thumping” that bible, you apparently do not bother to carefully read it.

Apr 16, 2012 12:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Amskeptic wrote:

biblethumper? Open your bible. There’s a guy in there you should get to know. Obama is a decent man, international leaders recognize this, but apparently our own knuckle-dragging cretin conservatives are so full of hatefulness that they do not see how traitorous they have been to the President of the United States and all the rest of us as well with their obstructionism. Menawhile, the rich have gotten richer during the worst recession since the Great Depression. Get a clue. It is not Obama’s policies that make this immoral state of affairs so maddening and tragic. Biblethumper, what would Jesus do?

Apr 16, 2012 12:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MarkDonners wrote:

It was hilarious to witness the tyrant Bush and his Rice concubine running around gnashing their teeth, when South America, in one united voice threw off the decades long US supported dictators and IMF/World Bank slavery. Rice was in a frenzy trying to reestablish that slavery for South America through OAS, ranting and raving against Chavez but too late. No more profits for the US from CIA sponsored ruthless dictators, death squads and civil wars, or environmental destruction and slave labor courtesy of criminal US corporations. the US as usual tried to make Chavez and Castro the scapegoats but found it can’t fight a whole continent that it has irreversibly lost to democracy.

Apr 16, 2012 12:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TrueWatchman wrote:

Reuters has become a right leaning periodical. He didn’t fail, WE failed. Because the redumblicans shunned the South for decades….now its home to roost!

The only scum is the biblethumper! Because we all know christians are hypocrites!

Apr 16, 2012 12:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
uc8tcme wrote:

Tough crowd you win some you lose some – what is the fuss!! At least Obama did not get shoes tossed at him :-) – I wonder who did.

Apr 16, 2012 1:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sensibility wrote:

“He failed.” That’s Barack Obama in a nutshell.

Although, for all his failures, I do support his continued call to ostracize Cuba. As long as they imprison dissidents or women who wear white, what business do they have in negotiations.

Apr 16, 2012 1:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
anniebella wrote:

I don’t believe everything the media writes, they have their own agenda. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Apr 16, 2012 1:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ClintK1 wrote:

Wonder who they will run to when someone tries to take over one of their countries, probably not Chavez as he will most likely be the one on the offensive.

Apr 16, 2012 1:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
PseudoTurtle wrote:

The rest of the world already realizes the US is now a “has been” power, mostly through our own foreign policy mistakes that seem to happen with embarrassing regularity.

What I want to know is when the American people are going to “come up to speed” on our “has been” government, and do something about it, instead of acting like a bunch of stupid sheep to the slaughter?

Apr 16, 2012 2:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Fred72 wrote:

It seems pretty obvious that U.S. presence at this summit was not particularly successful or remarkable, but saying “Obama failed” is pretty ridiculous. Obama simply acted as the face of North American status quo policies–the failure lies there, not in his performance in particular. What was on display at the Summit was the necessity for change in our approach to South America, as Mark Donners commented. This article doesn’t mention the criticism the U.S. faced on the “war on drugs” that the U.S. has always pushed as its South American drug control policy, but that was a huge issue. With all of South America realizing that they need to decriminalize drugs, some change is going to have to happen from northern governments. Treat demand, treat addiction. Legalize marijuana already. Or do we need to see 50,000 more Mexican civilians slaughtered to realize that it’s the right thing to do?

Apr 16, 2012 2:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rmkraussr wrote:

as far as I am concerned, Obama is gone, along with Hillary. He said we would get out of Afghanistan . . . it hasn’t happened

Apr 16, 2012 2:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SeaWa wrote:

It appears that South America and Latin America are experimenting with greater totalitarianism and communism. I don’t think it’s a ‘rebellion’ against the United States. They were never under our direction to begin with. If they are so shortsighted and arrogant to snub their best friend and partner for short term gains in China, then so be it. It reflects poorly on them, not us. In fact, much of the world is ‘snubbing’ the US. It’s their loss because we will continue to be the greatest and most just country in the world. Of course it’s our loss as well, but we will do fine without the burden of those ‘freindships’.

Apr 16, 2012 3:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SeaWa wrote:

@PseudoTurle: We have been a friend to the western world, a supporter and safe haven for democracy and capitalism for over a hundred years now. There were decades where we propped up the western world during the cold war. We are not ‘has been’. We are a good country and have a lot to offer the world. If they choose to look the other way and despise us for the current world order where more humanity benefits than ever before, then so be it. We were never in charge, we never colonized, and we are fine with being neighbors. This idea of ‘has been’ belongs to the epochs of empires. We are but a country.

Apr 16, 2012 3:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

I see this as an act of disloyalty. Latin America was with the U.S. when we were giving them billions of dollars of aids and helping them fight their blood-thirsty war on Drugs. Remember that Colombia when we helped you guys train your people to protect your people… Now that the U.S. cannot supply them the way we use to, they want to get money from other resources like China and Cuba. Figures. President Obama has nothing to do with that decision, because it is going to take more than one weekend to reverse a 50 year old doctrine.

Apr 16, 2012 3:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DetroitNative wrote:

We’ve doubled our national debt in less than 4 years, and if this trend continues, we will add another 6 trillion in another 4 years. Is it any wonder we’re too broke to send aid and make investments in south america???? Obama fiddles while Rome burns. Welcome to the New Amerika!

Apr 16, 2012 3:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ConradU812 wrote:

Obama has systematically made us the laughingstock of the world. This article just points out how other countries aren’t even putting up a show of courtesy anymore.

Apr 16, 2012 3:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ConradU812 wrote:

@ uc8tcme:

You sound proud of the leftist nutjob that threw a shoe at Bush….which goes a long way in explaining your maturity level.

Apr 16, 2012 3:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

In the end, the bottom line is, money talks. And we ain’t got no money.

Apr 16, 2012 4:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mutt3003 wrote:

Obama cannot charm anybody without a teleprompter.

Apr 16, 2012 4:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
fred5407 wrote:

Ya know, it is not all Obama’s fault, but he really is quite naive. He thinks he has a state department that controls the world, and he thinks that money sprinkled around will buy influence, because that is how he, himself, operates. The days of banana republics are gone, Mr. Obama, and your and Hillarys lack of experience is showing.

Apr 16, 2012 4:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Grant_X wrote:

This is the choice Americans have.

Vote for the party that is trying to level the playing field so that the the poor can become middle class.

Vote for the party that is tilting the playing field so that the upper middle class can become rich.

Anyone out there interested in doing both??? Anyone???

Apr 16, 2012 4:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DifferentOne wrote:

In the coming election, there are two choices:

1. Obama. He was a vast improvement over Bush. But where is all the hope and change that he promised so poetically? He never mustered sufficient courage to resist China, to legalize marijuana, or to recognize Cuba. I am disappointed. But he is still much better than …

2. Romney, who is nothing but a rich man’s candidate.

To bad Ron Paul has not won the primaries. At least he would have given Obama a good debate.

Apr 16, 2012 4:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
libertyville wrote:

Apparently empty charm no long works. The emperor’s new clothes are failing.

Apr 16, 2012 4:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DifferentOne wrote:

If the USA can trade with China, and ignore all its human rights abuses, then the USA should trade with Cuba too. Engagement would surely be more effective than isolation.

The Cuban expats in Florida should stop holding the USA hostage to their hopeless cause. Because of their stubbornness, the USA risks losing the goodwill of all Latin America.

Marijuana should be legalized and taxed because the war on drugs has failed. And Portugal has proven that legalization does not lead to increased consumption. Legalization would certainly result in much lower violence, and higher tax revenues.

China should be allowed continued access to USA markets only if they let the yuan float freely, to ensure fairness in trade.

Obama needs to muster the courage to act on these points. He needs to prove that he should be allowed to keep his job as President.

Apr 16, 2012 5:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ScottNYC wrote:

“Once seen as monolithic block of basket-case economies dependent on U.S. support, Latin American countries are coveted investment destinations with sophisticated financial systems that have innovated in areas ranging from energy to aviation.”

This blanket statement is not only misleading but also dead wrong.

One reason (among many): lack of strong judicial (law) ecosystems.

Poor reporting/writing.

Apr 16, 2012 5:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
0okm9ijn wrote:

I will recommend the book “Latin Lessons: How South America stopped listening to the US and started prospering” by Hal Weitzman to anyone interested in understanding the politics of the Americas. The fact is–Obama or any US President is crippled by the US internal politics; the Cuban voting block in Florida, the Israeli voting block in New York. I have stopped expecting any sensible international policy from US government, it aint going to happen, and we can only have ourselves to blame.

Apr 16, 2012 5:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
0okm9ijn wrote:

@DifferentOne. you’re too sensible for US electorates, those folks in Florida aint biting, and those folks in New York aint buying any compromise in Palestine.

Apr 16, 2012 5:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SeniorMoment wrote:

No government likes to be told what to do by any other government. Obama would have had a greater voice, if he wasn’t being undermined by lower level Secret Service personnel hiring prostitutes during the summit. Very likely those involved are Republican employees, who want to sully the President, even more to than when the Secret Service helped with JFK’s womanizing. These agents need to realize they represent the honor of the USA, not just their own honor. If in hiring prostitutes they also were cheating on their spouses, they should be fired. If single they should instead by demoted to work in Somali or some other dangerous area either not important enough for the President to ever visit, or simply not safe enough for a Presidential visit in the foreseeable future. The staff wasn’t with the President’s personal security detail, but they nevertheless gave all of us a black eye.

Apr 16, 2012 6:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DifferentOne wrote:

@0okm9ijn

The book looks fascinating and relevant. But who is the author? I always prefer to know the author and his/her bias before reading a book.

Anyway, here is the amazon link, if anyone is interested:

http://www.amazon.com/Latin-Lessons-America-Listening-Prospering/dp/0470481919/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334615055&sr=1-1

Apr 16, 2012 6:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Batareapop wrote:

I am sure there were a number of mic off assurances that he would be more “flexible” after the election.

Apr 16, 2012 6:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sureloser6 wrote:

America is a failed state with huge debt. America’s debt will be 24 trillion by 2015.

Apr 16, 2012 8:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dencal26 wrote:

MarkDonners

Chavez and Castro are thugs. I suggest you move there,

Apr 16, 2012 8:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dencal26 wrote:

TrueWatch

So you want to blame Obama failures in foriegn policy on the GOP? I thought the world loved Obama? Hillary is a clown as Sec of State with no diplomatic accomplishments.

Apr 16, 2012 8:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SeaWa wrote:

@Grant_X There’s nothing wrong with doing both, but I think that we have to choose one or the other. I don’t think the ranks of the rich can swell without the middle class collapsing into poverty. I truly believe that. Perhaps that is your point as well. Or instead do you think it is possible to retain and grow the middle class even as the rich get richer? I don’t think anyone knows for sure.

Apr 16, 2012 10:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

The sad part another right winger from canada Stephen Harper was on side with USA. These 2 nations are totally out of touch with changing times, decades of old boy network may be coming to an end. This day and age of technology it has even the poorest nations wanting change, freeing themselves of years of propoganda and economic slavery.
Nice article and an eye opener, maybe more to come.
I can’t beleive this hypocrisy of moral equivalency, embargo communist Cuba but deal with communist China. In the words of Homer Simpson DOH!

Apr 16, 2012 11:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

We were afraid of communist Cuba because they were at our doorstep on a little island, well think again it is now communist China that is at our very doorstep in the whole of C.& S. America.
I really don’t have great hopes for our economy to be on the up swing for the next 10 yrs. atleast. Too many lobbying groups eating away our democratic rights. Romney will put us back 10 more years better to vote for the devil you know than the devil you don’t.

Apr 16, 2012 11:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
forzapista wrote:

@SeaWa. You must have graduated from one of those charter schools that teaches US “exceptionalism.” US Policy in latin america has been nothing short of pathetic. Should we review the list of totalitarian governments that were propped up and supported by the US? Or did you now learn that when you were taught about US “exceptionalism?”
Cuba, Chile, Panama, Peru, Nicaragua? Not to mention US support for dictators in other parts of the world who are “friendly” to the US.

Apr 17, 2012 10:37am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SayHey wrote:

Wasn’t all this ant-U.S. sentiment due to George W. Bush – that Barack Obama would turn around? Seems to have had the opposite effect.

Apr 17, 2012 3:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
The_Cat wrote:

“White House officials disagreed with the notion that the failure to agree on issues like Cuba signaled a new dynamic to U.S. relations within the hemisphere.”
Really? Maybe those same nations having the audacity to sue US states for enacting laws within our own country is the signal they are looking for. Or them demanding rights for their citizens here illegally that they would never dream of giving illegal aliens in their countries?
Are they looking for little things like that to signal a new, rather hostile climate?

Apr 17, 2012 5:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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