Mars rover landing "miracle of engineering," scientists say

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If it takes 14 minutes for light to travel from Mars to the earth, how will they know if it landed safely in 2 minutes? This would defy Einstein’s Theory of Special Relativity by using “a terse radio transmission” and would finally permit time travel.

Aug 05, 2012 9:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JH818 wrote:

I quite certain if NASA were going to lie about something like this EM wave travel time between planets is not something that would be overlooked…

I’m pretty sure they timed the “landing time” for when they actually get confirmation of a successful landing.

Aug 06, 2012 1:44am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheUSofA wrote:

It’s all on 14 min delay, with info relayed back to Earth from the Discovery satellite orbiting Mars.

Aug 06, 2012 1:59am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SickOneLV wrote:

@JH818, I’m sure you’re right. The way that this story was written, however, did not relay it in that manner. So you could see how one would be perplexed.

Aug 06, 2012 2:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
samchik wrote:

Radio signals travel at the speed of light. Depending onthe distance it could be as long as 21 or as short as 4 minutes from Mars to Earth.

Aug 06, 2012 2:07am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SickOneLV wrote:

This amazing feat, along with the success of SpaceX’s Dragon spacecraft gives me great hope for the future of space exploration and has bolstered my faith in mans ability to conquer the impossible. In short this stuff is awesome!

Aug 06, 2012 2:10am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ntia78 wrote:

@WhateverForever in the official final pole they recorded touchdown time was 10:14 during the live feed. We received conformation 10:31.

Aug 06, 2012 2:18am EDT  --  Report as abuse
sevrandy wrote:

WhateverForever. You made a mistake. It may take 14 minutes if the planets are on the opposite sides of the sun but if they are in a line it would take as long. I think it was 4 minutes though? Not sure.

Aug 06, 2012 2:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheUSofA wrote:

Awesome indeed.

Aug 06, 2012 2:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheUSofA wrote:

Awesome indeed.

Aug 06, 2012 2:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reuters1945 wrote:

The news that after three years, hurtling through limitless space, the Mars Rover, Curiosity, has safely landed on Mars will surely go down in history as one of the most remarkable human achievements of all time.

It almost defies belief that human beings could have found a way to transport a scientific machine as large and as heavy as an automobile hundreds of millions of miles from the Earth to a distant planet and landed it intact and operational to beam back a limitless amount of information to scientists on Earth. No doubt this is as close to a miracle as I can ever imagine.

From a planet where often it appears we live in a world gone mad, to a different world where there are no wars, no famine, no floods, no needless suffering, must give one pause to think, to ponder, to reflect on what human beings have made of planet Earth.

Perhaps, if this expedition one day proves that human life can be made to exist and survive on Mars, there will be many people who will anxiously stand on long lines to book passage to a place where human beings can live out their brief lives in this Universe without fear and constant anxiety of one nation continuously threatening to annihilate another.

No doubt there will one day be a permanent installation built on Mars for the purpose of further investigation of the Cosmos. We have seen human beings live for extended periods whilst orbiting the Earth.

Mars will be the next stop as human beings venture further and further out into Space.

As the great English Poet, Robert Browning so aptly observed:

“Ah- but a man’s reach, should exceed his grasp;
Or what’s a Heaven for.”

Bravo, bravo and bravo encore to all those responsible for this astounding and breathtaking scientific achievement.

Aug 06, 2012 3:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

Earth and Mars are somewhat between maximum and minimum distances, so it’s taking about 14 minutes right now. It takes about 16 minutes for light to go across Earth’s entire orbital diameter.

By the time JPL got confirmation that Curiosity had touched down, it had already been on the surface for 14 minutes.

What you may not realize is that the entire landing sequence was entirely automated by software loaded in it’s memory months ago, because with a 14 minute delay, it would be too late to make any corrections during the seven minute landing sequence.



Aug 06, 2012 3:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
owl905 wrote:

The live steaming of the event was electric. Breathe-taking suspense, and a heckuva cheer when that first picture came back. People kept looking back at the monitors and screens to see if it would keep reassuring them that everything was okay.

Queue Tony the Tiger … that was … ggggrrrrRRREEEAATTT!

Aug 06, 2012 3:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
DavidinWY wrote:

This was certainly one hell of an achievement for NASA, but I’m STILL WAITING for my jet pack/flying car! What’s up with that!

Aug 06, 2012 4:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Free_Pacific wrote:

Wow, amazing work to all the Men and Woman of NASA.

Aug 06, 2012 5:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
AZWarrior wrote:

Great achievement! To borrow a saying from a post I read today, Mars eats satellites like a teenager goes through Hot Pockets! (Wish I had thought that one up.) It is good to take a moment to enjoy something better than the constant slime of politics. Truly, this is an example of man’s great potential.

Aug 06, 2012 5:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SamuraiX wrote:

Congratulations NASA and U.S.A.. What a great accomplishment…

Aug 06, 2012 7:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
IvonaPoyntz wrote:

Fantastic photos

Aug 06, 2012 7:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
docroc wrote:

To the folks who get the significance and beauty of the event – thanks for your posts. To the nitpickers who are carping about the accuracy of technical details regarding how long it takes the radio signal to travel from Mars to here, get over yourselves!

Aug 06, 2012 7:43am EDT  --  Report as abuse
joejoemas wrote:

That’s awesome. I hope they have some great finds on Mars!

Aug 06, 2012 7:46am EDT  --  Report as abuse
jiff3639 wrote:

Go NASA! Proud of you all and can’t wait to find out more about Mars!!

Aug 06, 2012 7:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse
coolblue wrote:

you would think they could get this in color. what is this, instagram?


Aug 06, 2012 7:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BlueOkie wrote:

Great achievement. Too bad Obama has axed future programs. He speaks with forked tongue. Great job etc etc etc, then cuts funding. We need NASA to motivate others to math and science and engineering. We need a change in the WhiteHouse.

Aug 06, 2012 8:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dasaivet wrote:

Fantastic! Go NASA go USA! I wish more of my tax money would go to fantastic projects like this!

Aug 06, 2012 8:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Minoqo wrote:

Reuters1945, while I applaud Curiosity and all those involved the same as you do, your fourth paragraph strikes me as ridiculously naive. If enough people go to Mars, there will be a need for some of them to specialize in leadership. Leadership evolves into government. As population grows, government necessarily grows larger, and other governments form, too. With large governments and multiple governments, you get factions of people with different opinions. When opinions are irreconcilable enough, you get threats of annihilation. This progression doesn’t mean we’re all doomed. We just need to take into account.

BlueOkie, there’s not enough money. It’s best for NASA to focus on a couple of cutting edge, big things that only governments can accomplish. Let private companies compete against each other over making proven concepts more efficient. Private enterprise can get economies of scale out of mass-production of space technologies and so on.

Aug 06, 2012 8:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
wiicycle wrote:

Editor W Simon,
“By the time they received radio confirmation of Curiosity’s safe landing, relayed to Earth by a NASA satellite orbiting Mars, the craft already had been on the ground for seven minutes.” This Is a Fail. The correct answer is 14 minutes. Replace “safe landing” with “top of the atmosphere” and you get 7. 1st grade math.

@WhateverForever, the landing sequence data is adjusted for the com-delay. It’s like watching the SupowerBowl, you see it end 30 seconds after later than “real time”. Even though official landing time is 10:32 PDT, it technically happened 10:25 pm.

Aug 06, 2012 9:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kaustin777 wrote:

It takes fourteen minutes for sound to travel that distance, not light.

Aug 06, 2012 9:22am EDT  --  Report as abuse
aaronled wrote:

I don’t understand all the confusion about the time delay here?? A poster above stated that the landing is all automated – this is correct. The reason it’s called “7 minutes of terror” is b/c the fate of Curiousity had already played out 7 minutes before they recieved the “touchdown” confirmation. This is quite straight forward…no speed of light speed limits were broken here… ‘Grats NASA! Looking forward to some good data ;)

Aug 06, 2012 9:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PessiMr wrote:

Surely those at NASA were hoping to beam back pictures more thrilling than the close-ups of wheels on Mars’s terrain. Every part of me hopes for a successful two-plus billion dollar expedition, but my gut is telling me that our elation may be premature.

Aug 06, 2012 9:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
USARealist wrote:

Congrats to NASA! We didn’t evolve from microbes (my opinion), but despite this stupid premise (from scientists who have watched too many Star Trek episodes and read two many sci-fi novels), this mission should yield a treasure trove of data.

Aug 06, 2012 10:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gordon2352 wrote:

NASA isn’t a “space program”.

After more than 50 years, NASA is simply a bunch of grownups playing with VERY expensive toys at our expense. NASA’s time has come and gone long ago and should be shut down, just like any other government pork barrel project that has outlived its usefulness.

NASA’s original “mission”, as stated by President John F Kennedy in 1961, was to safely put a man on the moon within a decade. This decision was mainly in response to the political embarrassment of Russian advances in near-earth orbit beginning in 1957 with Sputnik.

Thus the original decision was never meant as a scientific program, but a deeply flawed political decision that has cost the US untold billions of dollars.

That political mission was accomplished long ago.

NASA should have morphed into a scientific mission after the successful moon landings, but it has not. It’s mission remains mainly political — a matter of misplaced “national pride”.

As a result, NASA lives on, mainly without any defined scientific goals — such as putting a man on mars, not toys — mostly because it has become embedded in our culture.

In truth, the NASA “space program” is nothing more than a very expensive trip down “Nostalgia Lane”, which we can no longer afford.

The US window of opportunity to move into space has closed and others, such as the Chinese, are taking over. Time to shut NASA down before it becomes a reminder we have lost what it takes to be great. We don’t need another national embarrassment to go along with the rest of the Late Great US Empire that we have become.

Time to grow up now, and face reality.

Aug 06, 2012 10:22am EDT  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

Gordan, move to china then, we do not need you. We need people with intellectual curiosity that want to satisfy this curiosity by exploration of knowledge.

Aug 06, 2012 10:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

The whole ‘SkyCrane’ idea scared the beejesus out of me, glad it seems to have worked so well, hopefully not beginner’s luck. From what I have read it could be used in many other ways.

Aug 06, 2012 10:32am EDT  --  Report as abuse
owl905 wrote:

“Time to grow up now, and face reality.”

Time to cheer our lungs out for that successful landing. Anyone with an attitude focused on yesterday should get out of the way. Like de Grasse Tyson said, this is the stuff that makes us think about tomorrow.

Aug 06, 2012 10:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gordon2352 wrote:

@ USAPragmatist —

I agree that “We need people with intellectual curiosity that want to satisfy this curiosity by exploration of knowledge.”

But the US educational system — NASA notwithstanding — does not produce top quality math and science graduates anymore.

The billions spent on NASA could have been better spent on furthering US math and science education to produce real breakthrough achievements.

Instead, we dwell on the past and ignore both the present and our future.

I stand by what I said.

Aug 06, 2012 11:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
soldier777 wrote:

NASA, you haven’t lost touch with anything you do – congratulations and job well done. The USA looks forward to your unprecedented achievements and future explorations of space. AMAZING! Talk about walking a tight rope blind – wow!

Aug 06, 2012 11:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JLWR wrote:

Here is they type of thing Americans are and should be proud of – our space technology and advances -Not guns in the hands of deranged right or left radicals.

Aug 06, 2012 11:50am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kenius wrote:

“stand by your comment…do do do…give it two arms to cling too! Sorry, had to sing some Tammy W country for poor Gordon.

Yea, lets not waste money exploring the universe. lets just stay here on a dyin rock.
Hell with finding a way offa here, or to continue research and learning new things about our solar system and the surrounding areas.
We’ll all just spend our money supporting the tea party, “they’re running outta sugar for their tea”.
Hell I’ll give all mine to Romney. He wont waste it on some failed business venture I’m sure, jk.

Look!!, Nasa is the best organization for exploring space. They have a pretty good track record, sure they mess up, we all do, well cept Gordon, I’m sure he’s a freakin Tea party totting, Romney loving, Flag waving genius!, that never does anything wrong. You rule Gordon!!!, still just kidding.

And to BlueOkies, The republican party (tea party) forced the cut backs at Nasa, Not Obama, Better google this stuff before you people make comments. It really can make one seem uninformed in retrospect.

But I digress?, or is it digest?, degrease?,or die slowly?, or dye job? anyways, WAY TO GO NASA!!!!.
Damn good show, keep sending them probes. Its what you all do best.
And that crane Idea,Brilliant!!, but had me worried too, but they freakin pulled it off! AMAZIN!
So Peace out all, and congratulations Nasa, way to go men/ladies,Keep On Truckin’ (probin’)!!

P.s. I’m taking up a collection for Gordon, I want him to be on the next space probe they send so he can full appreciate what goes into sending something into space!. “hears a whisper from my gf..” , She just informed me there’s no oxygen carried on a space probe, “gets Gordon a scuba tank”. see, I’m lookin out for ya man, jk, again!

Aug 06, 2012 12:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jones2371 wrote:

Congratulations JPL!!! Now, if we can just refund and begin development on a manned program…

Aug 06, 2012 12:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
NeilBohr wrote:

@kaustin777…..I hate to be the bearer of bad news, it is light/electromagnetic radiation that is being discussed….Sound is MUCH slower and just a FYI – sound cannot travel through space because there is no air to tranfer the waves. (YouTube search bell in vacuum).

NASA has done us all proud with this accomplishment, a new technique has been born to allow larger, heavier objects to be placed safely on a distance surface. Great things will be to come.

Aug 06, 2012 12:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@Gordon2352, NASA and the headlines it produces are one of the few ‘triggers’ for young people to go into math and science disciplines that the government still provides money for. Yes we need more emphasis on Math and Science education, I agree 100%, but abolishing NASA would not help us improve this emphasis, in fact it would do the exact opposite. what we need to do is increase the money spent on NASA and it’s publicity.

Aug 06, 2012 12:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reuters1945 wrote:

In light of the immensity of NASA’s latest achievement it is heartbreaking that some people have deemed it fitting to focus their attention and criticism on the financial cost of the Mars project.

The truth is that compared to America’s ill-advised invasion of Iraq and subsequent military quagmires, which will eventually run into the many trillions of dollars, the cost of the Mars expedition is literally- like a drop in the proverbial bucket.

The cost of the Iraq war, et al, has consumed a billion US dollars per week or is it per day ??

And instead of leaving over a million human beings dead and hundreds of thousands maimed for life, (including thousands of brave young American troops, who did not live to see this inspiring day), the success of the Mars expedition has given millions of people throughout the world renewed hope in the capacity of Mankind to achieve great things.

Rather than focus on whether America can afford the cost of projects like the Mars expedition, people should focus on the question of whether Mankind can afford not to forge ahead with such inspiring efforts.

The real and far bigger and far more important question is- whether America has learned anything from the debacles of Vietnam and the more recent questionable invasions of Iraq et al, whose aggregate costs would have financed many thousands of Mars Rover and similar expeditions.

One day there may emerge in America and other nations, leaders who possess the human wisdom and foresight to set priorities that advance the cause of Mankind- rather than destroy the future prospects of Mankind.

The success in landing the rover, Curiosity, on Mars will likely have far reaching ramifications in the world of Science and by extension, the betterment of Mankind in general.

One day people will look back and correctly conclude that the Mars project would have been cheap at twice the price actually paid.

This Mars project reflected a level of scientific brilliance and quality of research and planning that transcends financial ledger sheets.
And it is always best to recall that quality is appreciated and remembered long after cost has been forgotten.

Aug 06, 2012 12:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

AZ – You’re welcome!

Aug 06, 2012 1:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ByGoneYrs wrote:

Speaking as a native born American, and IT person, and a parent of a son whom wishes to go to school to be a Astrophyicist I feel that both NASA and this success is a very key factor for everyones future. I for one would like to see more funding directed towards Space R&D and Exploration. I am 48 yrs old and hope that in my lifetime (assuming I live to age 75), that I see mankind return to the moon with research stations there, and mankind sets foot on Mars. Since both of my sons want to be involved in the space program, I have high hopes we as a nation do the correct efforts to assure that happens. The more success that we see the more interest and push for it will be.

Aug 06, 2012 1:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
arcoknuti wrote:

Big Deal, why worry one moment whether there could have ever been life on Mars when the life that is on earth is in jeopardy? Scientists with their heads in the clouds while their fellow earthlings are suffering are an abomination. The 2.5 billion squandered on this stunt could sure build a lot of solar panels to reduce carbon in any one of our cities. I am dumbfounded by such ignorance among our scientific playboy elite and their whole “let them eat cake” mentality. May they all lose their jobs.

Aug 06, 2012 1:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gordon2352 wrote:

@ Reuters1945 —

I assume you mean me when referring to “some people” criticizing the cost of the Mars project, especially when we spend enormous amounts of money on making war.

Just a few things:

(1) US foreign policy and NASA are not even remotely comparable.

(2) There is no “Mars project”. The last I heard was that NASA had decided to discontinue its manned space missions because they were too dangerous for the astronauts. Thus, unmanned missions would be preferable. I am not aware of any specific timetable for the US to put a manned mission on Mars.

I don’t object to legitimate work on science, especially when it benefits THIS nation, but NASA is nothing but “smoke and mirrors”.

(3) The US is NOT “Mankind”, and we have limited resources, which are dwindling rapidly as we continue to waste money on maintaining both a dwindling Empire and NASA, among a whole lot of other things that need to be fixed before the house caves in on us.

(4) It is thinking such as yours that unlimited amounts of money poured into high-profile political projects like this “transcends financial ledger sheets” that we are in the trouble we are today.

In case you haven’t looked around lately — I assume you have had your head stuck in a hole somewhere — if we don’t solve our problems here and now, there won’t be any future for Mankind.

I suggest you read what I said again, since you don’t seem to have gotten my point at all.

Aug 06, 2012 2:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gordon2352 wrote:

@ kenius –

You need to seriously adjust your dosage.

Comments like yours contribute nothing to the conversation, so why bother?

For all of you who don’t like what I said, I would like to point out it is my right to do so.

Sorry (not) if I have somehow gored your “sacred cow”.

Reality is on its way, whether you like it or not.

I won’t respond to anyone else because it is pointless in this venue to expect an intelligent reply.

Aug 06, 2012 2:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
straymoment wrote:

This is one of the most amazing feats of technical space exploration work in engineering and execution NASA has ever done. Especially in a time of austerity in cut-backs in the US, it is the one bright spot in the space program remaining in the US. Unlike some of the people at NASA who believed they could have sustained a failiure and try again, it’s more likely true with comments in the press about the US postal service being unable to operate unless congress bails them out, there might not be second chance money available for NASA’s program. Thank god they were successful. The US space exploration projects in the US along with many other programs more critical to the general welfare of the populus here may not see second chances especially for failiure. I vote, if anyone could vote on this, thumbs up! Good job! Space-X seems to be the only race in the US now for the space station. NASA’s old days are over, but they aren’t finished yet!

Aug 06, 2012 2:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Decatur wrote:

Kudos to JPL and NASA teams for “can-do” technical innovation, and successful arrival of such a complex system.

For more insight to what this is like for those involved, read Steven Squires’ book “Roving Mars”, his first person account of Spirit and Opportunity design-build-launch-exploration.

The “Space is a waste of money” argument doesn’t hold water. Space exploration is so technically cutting edge that the most conservative economic estimates are $3 of benefit to the nation for every dollar spent, and some estimates are much higher than 3:1 benefits.

This is a new milepost in high-tech endeavor in a line all the way back to the research by NASA’s predecessor, NACA, that paved the way for modern piston then jet powered air travel. Now NASA (and all space programs, for that matter) have bright scientists and engineers making the technical advances to solve the tough problems of each mission. These come back to benefit society in medicine, manufacturing and testing, remote sensing, communications, software, etc. Space exploration and NASA/NACA science have been among our best public investments.

I’d like us to fund NASA for another new robot exploration mission for each one or two that are on the books already – sending more rovers or better orbiters to Mars, using the moon to test new rover ideas and better mapping lunar resources, and developing better in-space rocket propulsion to get people to Mars and robots to all the outer moons of our solar system. NASA has some money for all these (maybe not so much focused on the Moon per se, but we have orbiters imaging the moon right now, Lunar Recon Orbiter LRO is taking stunning photos, other probes confirmed new water resources on the moon).

NASA is farming out getting cargo to the ISS so private firms can do that faster-better-cheaper, and the ISS will do some ‘real’ science now that it’s been given a longer mission life. The gamma-ray telescope mounted on the ISS by last shuttle flights is a cutting-edge Hubble or Webb class instrument in its own right.

There is some ‘pork’ aspect to house and senate fighting to protect old programs instead of the new privatized access to earth orbit, and that lobbying seems to slant right by bashing Space-X as being tied to white house even though Space-X can stand on own success to date. NASA is finally converging now on a better (not pork-based, but technology-based) successor to the Saturn V for heavy lifting to get into orbit the space vehicles that can bring people back to the moon or eventually to Mars and beyond.

Curiosity is NASA doing what it does best and the current administration is freeing NASA from building boosters so NASA can focus more on amazing missions like Curiosity. Cost growth in Webb Space Telescope is likely more to ‘blame’ as the biggest single cause -not the white house – for tough decisions at NASA in the short term.

American education needs more attention to STEM (science, technology, engineering, math)but anyone who volunteers with schools in that area(I do) encounters some people who try to protect kids from secular influences, OK I understand that, but they shelter their kids from much of 19th to 21st century science at the same time. It would also help if we’d gone metric, like we started to while I was in grade school to high school over 30 years ago. It would help if as a society we recognized intellectual or practical success as much as entertainment success, a grass-roots change there might bring us back to Apollo-era interest in exploring all fields of science and medicine.

Aug 06, 2012 3:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Decatur wrote:

I meant to add: JPL should be publicly thanked for the effort that goes into their annual open house weekend. I made the long drive to take kids there several years ago; thousands of visitors packed the JPL ‘campus’.

After waiting in line, we stood at windows overlooking the ‘clean room’ to see Curiosity like a new Lego set on Christmas morning: wheels and bogeys here, chassis there, heat shield, outer shell, etc., all in various stages of assembly below us, as the engineer tour guide pointed out each component and explained the sky crane.

The JPL open house is a huge attraction or introduction to the world of science for the thousands of kids (of all ages) who visit.

Aug 06, 2012 3:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
libertadormg wrote:

Congratulations to NASA.

Aug 06, 2012 3:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
T0M wrote:

A truly remarkable achievement that could only be achieved in the US. It took good science and engineering, sure, but it also required leadership, teamwork and the freedom to create and cooperate. I can’t see Europe ever cooperating enough to do it, China has no technical creativity and Russia is lacking in all aspects apart from science. NASA did the US proud (apart from all the blubbing and hugging, there’s no need for that nonsense).

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Fillybuster wrote:


Thank you for your intelligent and informative post.

Curiosity is what raised the Human Race from the cave to where it is today. (I consider this latest rover to be aptly named.) I was in my 20′s when the race to the moon occurred. It rapidly sparked innovations that we take for granted today and benefited the entire economy.

Investments in space profit America.

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EvilAxis wrote:

@Gordon2532…..Perhaps you should follow your own advice. This is a news article celebrating a great achievement by NASA, which in case you have forgotten is part of the US scientific community.

If you want to be a blow hard why don’t you go somewhere else. This is a great day for NASA and the US scientific community. These missions have many benefits for the US, not to mention the opportunites and knowledge that will come from this mission. Who cares if YOU don’t think this is an ‘adequate’use of resources.

It is people such as yourself that actually bring progress and mankind down. Why should we seek to understand the Universe or other planets better? Why any scientific research?

Congratulations NASA and America! There will always be those that try and tear down your accomplishments. Keep up the good work

Aug 06, 2012 4:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
EvilAxis wrote:

@Gordon…..also please save us all your smug self satisfaction. “Sorry (not) if I have somehow gored your “sacred cow”.

Reality is on its way, whether you like it or not.

I won’t respond to anyone else because it is pointless in this venue to expect an intelligent reply.”

No offence but thinking that your the smartest guy in the room, because you think that the mission to Mars is a waste of money actually shines a light on you. If you really think that NASA is the cause of American defecits then it shows how unintelligent you are.

Aug 06, 2012 4:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yowser wrote:

NASA: Job well done, and thanks! I continue to think the odds strongly favor some form of present or past life will be discovered on Mars. For example, The chance that the water already found there will prove to be 100% sterile, no matter where on the planet it is found and tested, seems unlikely.

Aug 06, 2012 5:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
owl905 wrote:

“I won’t respond to anyone else because it is pointless in this venue to expect an intelligent reply.”

All the intelligent replies made mincemeat of the smear you tried to forward – to belittle an incredible accomplishment.

This actually adds something to our legacy as a species. It’s not small, it’s not budget, it’s not ego – it’s the real deal advance of understanding life and our solar system neighborhood. It beat the odds from the detail all the way to the biggest picture.

The only downside from this being a universal shout of congratulations is some petty knitpicking nonsense.

Ex. There is no Mars program … oh really?

Aug 06, 2012 6:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

BlueOkie….we need a change of citizens and get rid of those like you. This is a great achievement for our space program and you inject your biased, obnoxious and half truth politics into it. Shame on you!

Aug 06, 2012 7:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
explorer08 wrote:

Thanks to everyone on this forum who made positive comments of support. Folks like Gordon2352 might be happier living in Somalia or some other country that has no vision. BlueOkie is another who apparently dropped out in the sixth grade and has no sense of curiosity or wonder at scientific investigation and results.

Aug 06, 2012 9:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
umojaresearch wrote:

It’s too bad America doesn’t have “miracle of engineering,” in creating work for its unemployed citizens within the USA.

Aug 06, 2012 9:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
umojaresearch wrote:

It’s too bad America doesn’t have “miracle of engineering,” in creating work for its unemployed citizens within the USA.

Aug 06, 2012 9:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

wouldn’t it be a hoot if they find signs of life out there?

Aug 06, 2012 11:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

umojaresearch wrote: “It’s too bad America doesn’t have “miracle of engineering,” in creating work for its unemployed citizens within the USA.”

Umo, exactly where do you think the $2.5B of development funds went? It went to hiring engineers, scientists, technicians, fabricators and manufacturers (and the list goes on and on), for the last decade, right here in the good old U.S. of A.!

Projects like this one create some of the highest paying jobs in existence, and these folks spend their hard-earned dollars elsewhere, showing REAL “trickle-down” economic growth.

NASA doesn’t launch buckets of money into space. The money stays here, growing the economy and creating jobs.

Sheesh! Think before you type!

Aug 08, 2012 11:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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