Russia's election Magician pans "undemocratic" U.S. vote

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marinevet69 wrote:

The electoral college should be abolished, popular votes should determine the winner. Other than the so called 8 swing states, the votes of citizens everywhere else are relatively irrelavent. This is undemocratic as the Russian says.
The electoral college was adopted because the Founding Fathers didn’t trust the people to elect responsible leaders.
Right now a vote in California is nowhere near as important as mine is in Ohio. This is not democratic.

Oct 31, 2012 7:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
randburg100 wrote:

marinevet69 wrote:

The electoral college should be abolished, popular votes should determine the winner. Other than the so called 8 swing states, the votes of citizens everywhere else are relatively irrelavent. This is undemocratic as the Russian says.
The electoral college was adopted because the Founding Fathers didn’t trust the people to elect responsible leaders.
Right now a vote in California is nowhere near as important as mine is in Ohio. This is not democratic.

Your founding fathers were correct….I give you Bush Mk1, Bush Mk2, Clinton, Reagan, Obama..though it has to be said for Bush Mk2 the election win was fraudulent…

But in the UK..we get a choice of two sets of numpties – Tory & NewLieMore – both liars, both traitors, both spineless, both fraudsters…..the 3rd option LimpDems only exist to errrrrrrrrrmmm not quite sure….

Oct 31, 2012 8:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
davegoldman wrote:

The US is not a democracy (mob rule). It is a representitve republic of federated states. Electoral college reflects that by giving each state influence in governing, especially at the federal level, including the election of president. It prevents large states like California from dominating a host of smaller states. It also mitigates voter fraud — Illinois can register and record 100 million dead democrat votes if they want, but they still only get 20 ev.

The founding fathers knew their stuff and developed a genius system. And this is all basic US Gov 101 stuff that they used to teach in school. It is a pity that liberals have poisoned that well, and kids today no longer understand how and why our governement is as it is.

Oct 31, 2012 8:50am EDT  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@davegoldman, please post one VERIFIED example of in-person voter fraud in this country. You accuse the Democrats of voter fraud, with no proof. If liberals are the ones that are so uneducated maybe you can please explain why FOX News (a blatantly conservative news outlet) viewers are consistently the most uninformed, unlike you i have proof to back up my claim….

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/fox-news-less-informed-new-study_n_1538914.html

Oct 31, 2012 10:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

oh yeah, this guy really knows what he’s talking about…
Russia has a long history of the perfect and, most importantly, free elections… starting from Stalin and up to the most resent ones… when Putin was “re-elected” for his de-facto fourth term – free of any competition, even from an incumbent “president” Medvedev…

Oct 31, 2012 10:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

davegoldman wrote:
“The US is not a democracy (mob rule).”

The USA is a democracy because it has elected representatives. It is a republic because is has no monarchy.

You should stop watching Fox. They don’t know what they are talking about.

Oct 31, 2012 11:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
rikfre wrote:

They will be moving the US voting process to Facebook. that way, the stock price goes up and everyone in the world can vote for the Presidency. After all, the Supreme court has allowed any corporation in the world to “influence” things here, why not universal suffrage for the whole world in choosing the President..!

Oct 31, 2012 1:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Randy549 wrote:

@Abulafiah, try Googling “democracy vs republic” and get back to us.

Oct 31, 2012 1:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Randy549

I am not interested in your politically motivated redefinitions: “America is a republic so real Americans vote Republican. America is not a democracy so real Americans don’t vote Democrat.”.

Sadly for you redefiners, the internet has plenty of non-GOP websites if you care to look at them.

A democracy has elected representatives, so the USA is democracy. The USA also has a head of state chosen from the public – re-public – so it is a republic. There is no reason why it cannot be both. That is just a ridiculously partisan right-wing fantasy.

I do find it funny though, the way so many Republicans don’t even know what the word means.

Nov 01, 2012 3:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Randy549

I am not interested in your politically motivated redefinitions: “America is a republic so real Americans vote Republican. America is not a democracy so real Americans don’t vote Democrat.”.

Sadly for you redefiners, the internet has plenty of non-GOP websites if you care to look at them.

A democracy has elected representatives, so the USA is democracy. The USA also has a head of state chosen from the public – re-public – so it is a republic. There is no reason why it cannot be both. That is just a ridiculously partisan right-wing fantasy.

I do find it funny though, the way so many Republicans don’t even know what the word means.

Nov 01, 2012 3:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Randy549

I am not interested in your politically motivated redefinitions: “America is a republic so real Americans vote Republican. America is not a democracy so real Americans don’t vote Democrat.”.

Sadly for you redefiners, the internet has plenty of non-GOP websites if you care to look at them.

A democracy has elected representatives, so the USA is democracy. The USA also has a head of state chosen from the public – re-public – so it is a republic. There is no reason why it cannot be both. That is just a ridiculously partisan right-wing fantasy.

I do find it funny though, the way so many Republicans don’t even know what the word means.

Nov 01, 2012 3:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Randy549

I am not interested in your politically motivated redefinitions: “America is a republic so real Americans vote Republican. America is not a democracy so real Americans don’t vote Democrat.”.

Sadly for you redefiners, the internet has plenty of non-GOP websites if you care to look at them.

A democracy has elected representatives, so the USA is democracy. The USA also has a head of state chosen from the public – re-public – so it is a republic. There is no reason why it cannot be both. That is just a ridiculously partisan right-wing fantasy.

I do find it funny though, the way so many Republicans don’t even know what the word means.

Nov 01, 2012 3:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BioStudies wrote:

Definition of REPUBLIC: A government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government

Definition of DEMOCRACY: Government by the people; especially : rule of the majority

We are not and have never been a democracy. Our whole “spreading democracy around the world” is pretty hilarious when you realize that the USA is in fact a Republic. OOPS?

Nov 01, 2012 11:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@BioStudies

So how, in your opinion, are elections in the USA won if it is not by gaining a majority? You think US elections are won by minorities?

“Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition” -> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html

“It is a constitutional republic and representative democracy, “in which majority rule is tempered by minority rights protected by law” -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA#Government_and_politics

Nov 02, 2012 10:19am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kommy wrote:

Well, he is right, read this on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion/frum-election-chaos/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

Nov 05, 2012 8:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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