Fiscal deal stalls as clock ticks to deadline

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richinnc wrote:

A great plan – break everything and then get bandages to patch everything together. Kind of like Humpty Dumpty – but our “leaders” should have figured out some responsible plan months ago. We need to stop supersizing our government, increase some taxes at a rate that will not make our recession worse, and slow down our use of entitlements.

Dec 29, 2012 7:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DaveEddleman wrote:

Go over. Instant balanced budget.

Dec 29, 2012 8:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Anti-Xavior wrote:

Congratulations everyone, your last name is now Kennedy. Thanks to corruption and corporate greed, you were all found to be corrupted and given in unholy matrimony and your name is now Kennedy!

You are in love with your idol, so you are now all devoted to it, till death!

I was glad when the killed him! I hate the Kennedy’s!

Dec 29, 2012 9:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gator21 wrote:

Where in the heck is Harry Reid? He sent his minions to negotiate with McConnell.

Dec 29, 2012 9:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michales wrote:

so what have they been doing the past 3 yrs and 364 days?

Dec 29, 2012 9:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
cade wrote:

Senator Harry Reid why don’t you PAY BACK American tax payers for living at the Ritz Carlton in Washington DC in a suite for years! How arrogant you are to waste SO MUCH of OUR money and then tell us to pay more in taxes!
You’ve been living off of hard working tax paying Americans for FAR TOO LONG!

Dec 29, 2012 10:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
greywolf822 wrote:

All we here is save the Middle class and anyone making 250.000 to one million a year but we have completely said the hell with the poor and working class who suffer the most. Here is something to really think about if you really care and I doubt it seriously:
The “working poor” … are in fact the major philanthropists of our society. They neglect their own children so that the children of others will be cared for; they live in substandard housing so that other homes will be shiny and perfect; they endure privation so that inflation will be low and stock prices high. To be a member of the working poor is to be an anonymous donor, a nameless benefactor, to everyone else.

Dec 29, 2012 10:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
plang1 wrote:

impeach the disgrace obama, make a deal and do everyone in america is worth more than a penny a big favor!!

Dec 29, 2012 10:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
theoutpost wrote:

hatred is all consuming. crawl back under your rock.

Dec 29, 2012 10:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tomijane wrote:

Where has the Senate Leader and the POTUS for the past 4+ years, as they promised to fix the Nations Economic Problems ???
It seem they were too busy running up the National Debt to Record High Levels while kicking the can down the road rather than deal with the problem !!!
Most were too worried about getting reelected rather than doing what they were elected to DO !!!

Dec 29, 2012 10:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CarFree wrote:

the Fix the Debt group is simply the latest incarnation of Pete Peterson, the billionaire Wall Street financier who over many years has invested tens of millions of his money in his long-term crusade to reduce the federal debt on the backs of the poor and middle class,

Dec 29, 2012 11:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ammo-one wrote:

drama queens, we’ll go off the cliff, but redo the deal in January.
The American voter is so easy to be snowballed, and do not have any idea of what will happen in this country in the to near future.

Dec 29, 2012 11:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VegasSmitty wrote:

The entire problem is the Senate has no leaders!

Dec 29, 2012 11:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
oasishd1 wrote:

It is amazing to me that the public is being duped…(time to revisit history here) it is solely in the politicians interests to play the public…each side blaming the other…for the mess that we are in…as it is the fault of both parties of the last 60 years that this country is in the shape that it is in…that way no party has to take full blame. We the people are being led like sheep…the last time a populace was led like this it ended in WWII. Can I invoke…the fall of Rome…history repeats itself…until we find a way to stop it.

Dec 29, 2012 11:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
yyahoo wrote:

Harry Reid has not done any leading of any thing for 4years no budget every year he and Democrats have broken the law the house of rep have passed budgets and Harry Reid will not even bring any up for a vote

Dec 29, 2012 11:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ib42 wrote:

No republicans, no problem.

Dec 30, 2012 12:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
james1611king wrote:

Anyone knows these parasites are going to continue to bleed the host dry. Parasites never consider what will happen to them when the host dies.

Dec 30, 2012 12:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
CFPCowboy wrote:

Please comment on the Senate endeavor with respect to Article 1, Section 7, paragraph 1 of the Constitution, and in particular, the fact that the paperwork for the last Senate originated tax Bill which was never sent to the House of Representatives. Hopefully, the Senate Bill will, in actuality, be an amended version of the House Bill sent in August. If so, expect it to go to Conference, not the House floor. In this procedure, as written under the Constitution, I do not see any Presidential input, except signing or vetoing.

Dec 30, 2012 12:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
CFPCowboy wrote:

Constitution: Article 1, Section 7, paragraph 1: The Senate?

Dec 30, 2012 12:30am EST  --  Report as abuse

There are a lot of public programs that can be cut, and they need to be put up to the vote of the American people. But in this democratic place most people smoke at work, but we are not allowed to smoke. So I have little faith left in this failing system. I have little and my wants are few, but that is me. It is not up to the government to pay my way thru life. If you don’t earn it, you don’t get it is how I was raised to live. I think there are far too too many hand outs in this country.

Dec 30, 2012 12:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
Costas67 wrote:

I am not an expert or a Senator but i do vote and to me it seems that we have people in Washington that we vote into office to serve us and our interest, only to discover that it is like putting roosters into the arena so they can fight. I will start voting more carefully and start selecting new faces every time election comes around because i am sick of the same crap every time these people have do decide about something important about me.

Dec 30, 2012 1:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
Johnny_Gerard wrote:

Isn’t it amazing how much effort they are putting forth to AVOID having to cut spending? This whole “fiscal cliff” thing is a joke… they may make a few token cuts to future increases in federal spending, but it’s clear all they’re going to do is kick the can down the road for another year.

Dec 30, 2012 1:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
pmacdee2 wrote:

I am struck by the comment that ” McConnell left the U.S. Capitol after spending seven hours in his office. ” If I left work after 7 hours, I would be fired. For him 7 hours sounds like a Herculean effort.

Dec 30, 2012 1:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
IronicSarcasm wrote:

Surely the verb “work” does not apply to their activity?!

Dec 30, 2012 1:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
Ashishnfl wrote:

Even after pay raise they are scrambling i like this job. you’all vote for me next time i promise not to STALL if elected. Any referendum pay for performance and not political actions.

Dec 30, 2012 2:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
PKFA wrote:

Maybe if we “fall off the fiscal cliff” then:
Single women will find live-in fathers for their impoverished children;
Those same impoverished children will discover role models and get a decent education;
Poor families will find answers to their substance abuse problems;
Unemployed workers will accept temporary jobs currently “beneath” them until the good offer comes;
Defense contractors and sub contractors will replace jobs lost in the recession;
Government, union and other highly-paid workers will return to their fair share of taxes;
The wealthy will invest in jobs again instead of buying gold and overpriced art and other collectibles;
Politicians will find a permanent fix to their wasteful overspending.
Nah. None of that, fiscal cliff or not. Never mind…

Dec 30, 2012 7:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
gator21 wrote:

Possibly going off the fiscal cliff will be the only way for a Congress without a brain or a backbone to accomplish what needs to happen – spending cuts. They can come back after the first of the year and reduce taxes on incomes below an agreed upon level. Without spending cuts to go along with modest increase in taxes we are just kicking the can down the road and ultimately the can will kick back.

Dec 30, 2012 10:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
merryblount wrote:

Why is no one talking about spending cuts? A tax increase without spending cuts would not even begin to solve our $16 trillion debt problem. The President is insisting on increasing taxes, while maintaining, and even increasing, spending. This will only make our problems worse. Why is this problem being ignored?

Dec 30, 2012 11:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
Speaker2 wrote:

Amazing how right wingers and tea party members forget their Hero, Dick Chaney said deficits don’t matter. So now the Dems are in charge, it does matter?

Want to cut the debt, simple, cut defense spending in half. Stop fighting unfunded wars. Next tax all corporate overseas, offshore funds, there are billions sitting offshore. Stop corporate welfare.

Dec 30, 2012 1:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Speaker2 wrote:

Amazing how right wingers and tea party members forget their Hero, Dick Chaney said deficits don’t matter. So now the Dems are in charge, it does matter?

Want to cut the debt, simple, cut defense spending in half. Stop fighting unfunded wars. Next tax all corporate overseas, offshore funds, there are billions sitting offshore. Stop corporate welfare.

Dec 30, 2012 1:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Speaker2 wrote:

Amazing how right wingers and tea party members forget their Hero, Dick Chaney said deficits don’t matter. So now the Dems are in charge, it does matter?

Want to cut the debt, simple, cut defense spending in half. Stop fighting unfunded wars. Next tax all corporate overseas, offshore funds, there are billions sitting offshore. Stop corporate welfare.

Dec 30, 2012 1:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Speaker2

The Tea Party was born because of people like Dick Cheney that said deficits don’t matter. It started because of the Repbulicans endless spending, not because of the Democrats. At some point it got co-opted by the religous right, and that is when it went nuts. But don’t try to make it sound like the Tea Party loved Republican deficit spending, that is the whole reason it was formed.

Dec 30, 2012 2:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CPFftw wrote:

Too many of our lawmakers (Lindsay Graham leading the pack) see the wrong things as win or lose instead of just doing what needs to be done. Tax increases as well as deep spending cuts are needed. They can start with halving the military budget

Dec 30, 2012 2:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

TheNewWorld..you are psychotic. In one post you blame the Democrats for the out of control spending..now you blame the Republican’s. Did you work for the Romney campaign?

Dec 30, 2012 3:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

Speaker2..you are on the right path here. If Congress did exactly as you are suggesting..we’d be in much better shape.

Dec 30, 2012 3:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SteveOSmith wrote:

The republicans are so afraid of being acused of raising taxes they will crash the ecconomy and then return next year to approve the same plan that already exists and call it a tax reduction. The house should pass the senate bill that already exists and return next year to complete the process as opposed to wrecking the ecconomy again. It is important to remember that before the Bush Tax cuts the government was running a surplus under Clinton.

Dec 30, 2012 3:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

It would have been much simpler to over the cliff, and then work backwards. It is much easier to lower taxes than to raise them.

Dec 30, 2012 3:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Why will this get magically solved next week? Or next month? The GOP will never let the Koch bothers down, only the poor and destitute. Hell is waiting for them.

Dec 30, 2012 3:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
URNSO wrote:

When are any of these plans going to be made public, after it is law?

Dec 30, 2012 3:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kiwibird wrote:

So the Republican’s answer to all the economic problems in the U.S.is to cut the incomes of the elderly who can no longer work! Wow what a party.

Dec 30, 2012 3:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Burns0011 wrote:

For the past two, three years, the Republicans have become increasingly intransigent, bitter, hateful, and downright heartless.

It’s time for them to remember the key elements of the New Testament that they claim to profess; Compassion towards their fellow humans.

Dec 30, 2012 3:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@xyz2055

I blame them both. I blame the Federal government, all of them. They have all played a part in the runaway spending. None of them are innocent. The only psychotic people are the ones who think their party is innocent in this whole mess. I am sure I have stated this many times before, I am a Libertarian. I don’t support the Republicans, I don’t support the Democrats, and I am one of the increasingly few people who can see the whole picture through non Republican/non Democrat eyes.

The Democrats love to spend on domestic social programs, and “foreign aid” aka the world’s police force. At least this benefits us at home. The Republicans love to spend on tax cuts and on foreign interventionalism. At least the tax cuts keeps more money in the private sector. I wouldn’t have a problem with the Democrats approach on domestic spending if it was done with a balanced budget. I wouldn’t have a problem with tax cuts if it was done with a balanced budget. I will always have a problem with NeoCon interventionalism, and with Democrat Police the world interventionalism.

I am one of the few intellectually honest people on here, I hold all politicians to the same standards, not just one political party.

Dec 30, 2012 4:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Burns0011

“For the past two, three years, the Republicans have become increasingly intransigent, bitter, hateful, and downright heartless.

It’s time for them to remember the key elements of the New Testament that they claim to profess; Compassion towards their fellow humans.”

How compassionate is it to know that the country is setting itself up for a financial disaster that will destroy our fiat economy affecting everyone, from every life style and income, and choose to do nothing about it? How compassionate is it to sell out your children’s and your grand children’s future, so you can avoid hardships today?

Dec 30, 2012 4:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sjfella wrote:

Whine, whine, whine. Y’all voted for these losers and have exactly what you deserve.

Dec 30, 2012 4:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
richinnc wrote:

Remember when Reagan basically told the air traffic controllers to go back to work or be replaced. Could we do this with Congress and the President? By not paying them we could cut spending – something that DOES NEED TO BE DONE (we cannot tax enough – after all you have about 47% that we are supporting)
For those that think that Democrats are for helping the 47% NO they want a bigger percent – that way they have more of us to control. In North Carolina it was the Democrats that wanted the Lottery. Which feeds on people who “need” that big jackpot as a “voluntary” tax – those who tend to be on the lower half of the wage scale.

Dec 30, 2012 4:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Joe_Casepack wrote:

The people are getting what they voted for… more blame, more recession, higher taxes, and now Obama wants your guns too.

I don’t have to say I told you so because lots of others already told you first.

Dec 30, 2012 5:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SanPa wrote:

Behind every major event in US history, there is a Republican. There’s the Civil War, the Great Carpetbagger Stampede, The Great Depression, installation of the Shah of Iran, the end of the Gold Standard, the Axis of Evil, the explosion of deficit growth since 1981, and the Great Fiscal Cliff – Debt Ceil Crisis.

Dec 30, 2012 5:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bunker555 wrote:

Looks like Mitch needs to take some prunes to see some movement. The talks have also stalled.

Dec 30, 2012 5:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bunker555 wrote:

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell talked several times to Vice President Joe Biden by phone in the hope of breaking the standstill. “I’m willing to get this done, but I need a dance partner,” McConnell said.

Dec 30, 2012 5:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tractorman wrote:

Some want tax cuts,some want tax increases. I just want everyone that lives in this country to pay his or her FAIR SHARE, and for the ones that do pay, to quit paying for the ones that don’t.

Dec 30, 2012 5:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
cheap808 wrote:

Government is effective when it wants to be. Bring debt under control just isn’t that important to it. Great job on Friday extending warrantless electronic monitoring!

Dec 30, 2012 5:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VSNFR60 wrote:

Dysfunctional bicameral congress. Crashing the markets – world wide…down. Damn thee Mayan calendar, damn thee.

Dec 30, 2012 6:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
beech wrote:

It seems doubtful that the people in this commentary could agree on fiscal policies. The solution is simple: cut taxes, let interest rates rise, and we will have a booming economy.

Dec 30, 2012 6:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Dalellen wrote:
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Jim_Dandy wrote:

Prunes, Bunker555 – Love it!

Dec 30, 2012 6:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bunker555 wrote:

@Jim_Dandy
Prune Juice from Florida -> Isn’t just for breakfast anymore.

Harry Reid is on his way to the Redskins-Cowboys tiebreaker tonight.

Dec 30, 2012 7:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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