China slams "distorted" view of copyright piracy problem

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mgunn wrote:

He has a point. I’ve seen studies where other countries have a higher per capita rate of piracy (e.g. Vietnam) and perhaps the infrastructure is not there to high-speed download movies and software like we do here, via torrents and file-sharing sites, which is massive.

Nov 11, 2012 10:41am EST  --  Report as abuse

Copyright and Patents need to go away. Both are just another monopoly to dole out privilege for a given amount of time. A thing exists or is created because the time is right for it to be so created. It’s why Aristotle didn’t write 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and the Vikings didn’t write the Windows OS. The time being right for it is due to humanities collective advancement and knowledge.

If I can purchase a product I should be able to do anything i want with it including copying it. Otherwise I didn’t purchase it, it isn’t my property and it was only leased to begin with.

Piracy is theft without purchase. Pirates used to board your ship and plunder you without rendering any service that you chose to employ voluntarily. A person buying a product and doing what he wants with it is not piracy of any kind.

If a person truly wants to keep an idea as his own property, then he should keep it to himself, in his own mind, and share it with no one via any method of communication whatsoever. If my eyes see it and if my money can purchase it, it should rightfully be mine and all other claims to it abandoned.

Nov 11, 2012 12:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tmc wrote:

@LysanderTucker, you obviously have never spent a lot of time creating anything of value. Try it sometime and Ill bet your mood changes.

Nov 11, 2012 3:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Speedster wrote:

@tmc. Value is subjective, but as someone who “has” been paid for IP rights, LysanderTucker has a valid point.

If one purchases a product for personal use, they have the right to do “within reason” what they wish. Apple has modified their stipulations for copying songs bought on ITunes from one owner to multiple devices in response from their customers demand for a “better process” to play their music. Software licensing is the process for lessening the piracy of apps.

The point is to give the consumer “reasonable’ options to overcome piracy.

Nov 11, 2012 3:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
qiaohan wrote:

lysander, the reason China has such a brain drain of technical experts, and program developers to the silicon valley in the US is because there copyright is enforced by law. Why should they stay in China if they’re not going to get paid? If China is ever going to develop any new technology on its own (instead of copying it all) it will need to enforce its intellectual property laws more seriously so they won’t lose their best people. You really haven’t thought this through, have you?

Nov 11, 2012 9:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
qiaohan wrote:

Why should Chinese developers stay in China where everybody is ripping off their stuff? No wonder there is such a brain drain of these people to the U.S. where they know they can get paid for their creative skills and talents.

Nov 11, 2012 9:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
grehe wrote:

the 80% privacy rate are the 100% poverty rate. They’re people who could not afford the software/product in the first place. It would cost more to go after them then the product/software cost. Plus it was actually more advantageous to hook them up on pirated software then open souce software.

One of my associated went over there and purchased alot of pirated goods, but when he tried to board the plane, they arrested and detained him for hours. In the end, all the pirated goods were confiscated. So it was okay to buy and use them as long as it does not exit the country. That’s good enough already.

Nov 11, 2012 11:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tangogo68 wrote:

LysanderTucker — new contender in the tight competition for most delusional and least cogent comment of the year — try to stay sober until after you’ve left your comments next time.

Nov 12, 2012 5:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
stevyfeather wrote:

I understand that China claims to be making progress, but the reality is that piracy still seems to be going largely unchecked there. China has the ability to rein in piracy if they so choose considering the way in which they are able to assert control in regards to other sectors. The fact that the International Intellectual Property Alliance estimates a loss of $ 3.5 billion and that nearly 80% of all dowloaded software is pirated is astounding. Thats nearly 25% of the total international losses being directly attributed to China. They can defend their position all they want, but the numbers don’t favor their claims.

Nov 12, 2012 1:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse


I simply don’t live in the grey zone of if-and-but land. I’m an either-or person. I am against monopoly of any kind, not for it when it benefits me and against it when it doesn’t. If adhering to a principle, regardless of if it favors me or not makes me delusional, then so be it.

I think you answered why some ask “Where are all the principled men?”. Well, you declared them all delusional. The simple fact is that anything created is dependent on something previously being created. It’s a good thing that there was no patent office when the wheel was created. After all, they deserved a 25 year monopoly for production and development so that they could use the profits to bribe governments into creating safety standards and other regulations that prevent anyone else from entering as competition at a reasonable price without needing rich investors to compete.

Nov 12, 2012 3:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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