As U.S. hesitates, California pours billions into green energy

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tmc wrote:

All ideas are good when they start. But when they are implemented they immediately morph in the dreaded “bureaucracy” where all good deeds are punished and bad ones ignored.

Nov 14, 2012 6:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

If California ends up with a lot of electric cars and green energy production, it will mean cheaper and better electric cars and green energy for the rest of the US.
I wish California luck.

Nov 14, 2012 7:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
Bayou_Crier wrote:

The two most expensive energies to produce are wind and solar. With abundant and inexpensive natural gas why would you want to use anything else.Unless your objective was to spend the most possible for energy. If you had not noticed, the USA is the worlds largest producer of natural gas and soon to be the worlds largest producer of oil. Ask Spainish consumers with large wind and solar farms how they like those energy sources. You will notice that they import natural gas for the vast majority of their energy needs. Maybe this is why California is losing population.

Nov 14, 2012 7:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
rhess595 wrote:

If the US had to rely on the other states full of people with no imagination, there would be no iphone, Macbook, Google, Facebook, surfing or Hollywood movies. California is the only reason the US might really ever be worthy of leading a world empire again. When you add the financial crooks in New York City to the prejudiced right wing militarists of the heartland with their oil company friends you have the equivalent of Nazi Germany.

Nov 14, 2012 9:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
Overcast451 wrote:

This should pretty much finish their economy off.

Nov 14, 2012 10:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillDexter wrote:

Yes, by closing a loophole California has finally stood up to the private sector thieves who always take more than their share of the money. Now, all those dollars that fall from the sky every day can finally be diverted to good use. Hooray!

Nov 14, 2012 11:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
SidAbma wrote:

Solar is good, wind is good, electricity is good, but what about natural gas? Stop & think, what is there that we feel, touch, wear, consume and use daily that has not been touched by natural gas. Not much.
A lot of our electricity, even with solar and nuclear, is still being produced with natural gas. Food, beverages, gasoline, pharmaceuticals, textiles, warm buildings, warm water…
How much of this natural gas is being wasted as HOT exhaust going up chimneys across the state and the country? Global Warming?
Why is this still being allowed, when the technology of Condensing Flue Gas Heat Recovery can have this energy being consumed to near 100% energy efficiency.
Maybe now with Prop 39 California will take the lead at realizing that by increasing natural gas energy efficiency, What natural gas is not wasted today, will be there to be used another day. It’s called profit and reduced emissions.
How many jobs could be created increasing the natural gas energy efficiency of all the State owned and operated buildings? How much money could the state save in this utility bill, and how many Tonnes of emissions daily not put into the atmosphere?

Nov 14, 2012 1:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
seejayjames wrote:

Enough with the “green energy costs too much” comments! Cost is flexible, can be artificially propped up and pushed down, and changes dramatically based on things totally irrelevant to its true nature—like stockholder speculation!

With California’s initiative, carbon-emitting energies are made to cost more and green energies therefore cost less. As they should. Just because we can produce vast amounts of natural gas doesn’t mean it’s the best option for our energy…it’s one option among many, but it’s still highly polluting (and nonrenewable) compared to true green energy.

If the US had adopted this kind of measure nationwide a few decades ago, we would have no energy crisis whatsoever today. We would import no oil. Our use of fossil fuels would be vastly lower and on the way to elimination altogether. We would be exporting billions of dollars worth of green-energy equipment and expertise every year, thus helping to reduce greenhouse gases worldwide. Unfortunately, we didn’t. Hopefully it’s not too late…

I wish California all the best with this initiative, which is the single smartest piece of legislation I’ve heard about in years. (Along those lines, I think we should penalize conventional farming for its destructive environmental practices and subsidize organic farming with those funds‚Ķmaybe a Proposition for the next election.) Every state would do well to adopt their own energy initiatives similar to this one. I think they will, once they see the enormous success of this one in a few years.

Nov 15, 2012 9:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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