Rockets hit near Tel Aviv as Gaza death toll rises

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Sweatee wrote:

If you are outnumbered, 5 to 1, and military superior, would it not make sense Hamas not to incite a more vicious response. Please martyrdom is the rationalization of insane behavior.

Your children will be helpless to the response. Cease and live in a more safe environment. Seek Peace instead of overt threats of driving Israel into the sea. No longer live a life that is fraught with danger, live a full and more constructive life for you and your family.

Choice is yours and your leaders, choose wisely, a velvet glove is being extended or you can choose the iron fist by your actions.

Nov 14, 2012 11:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
justine1939 wrote:

Hamas knows that if they attack Israel as they have,they will be attacked in return and hit hard. That is as it should be. Of course! If you attack me first, I will try my very best to attack you back even harder. Do not call me “Jesus.” If Hamas attacks from civilian areas, the Israeli response will undoubtedly kill civilians. That’s just how it is in war, and the mothers and children need to have some common sense and get away from the Islamist militants. Proximity to the rocket launching Hamas guys means probable death. I think the Palestinian civilians know this by now.

Nov 14, 2012 11:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wrote:

What rock did you people crawl out from underneath? Pity the poor Palestinians who democratically elect a terror organization to run their government, launch missiles daily into Israel and then cry fowl when things don’t work out.
Israel pulled out of Gaza completely and it was only when the Palestinian population of Gaza elected Hamas as their govt. AND started launching missiles into Southern Israel that the blockade began. Israel tries to avoid killing civilians with its targeted strikes, but in an area as dense as Gaza, unfortunately some accidents happen. It never helps when the criminal Hamas use their own population as shields for their operations. Disgusting.

Nov 15, 2012 12:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
Danzig83 wrote:

Israel has every right to defend itself against the barbaric territories that surround it.

Nov 15, 2012 12:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
DHites wrote:

Palestine has no claim to the Gaza Strip or the Golan Heights, they lost that claim during the failed invasion of Israel in 1968. When you attack a country and they kick your butt, they get to seize your land. That’s been a rule of war since battles were fought with stones and sticks.

Maybe if Hamas would stop firing rockets from the middle of downtown, innocent women and children would stop being hurt when Israel returns fire. Has anyone ever thought of that?

Nov 15, 2012 1:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
Jamia wrote:

Israel will be punished for violating the laws prescribed by the God of Abraham. They violated 2 Samuel 24 by which an excessive military was developed. In addition, they violated 1 Kings 11 by performing this deed on grounds removed from their jurisdiction as they did not forfeit 10 tribes of Israel. Remember, this is just the beginning and they will pay for their godless deeds.

Nov 15, 2012 1:28am EST  --  Report as abuse

Lucky Israel killed those unborn twins as they probably would have grown up to dislike Israel.

Nov 15, 2012 1:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
DougAnderson wrote:

I really have no sympathy for the Palestinians when a group in Gaza calls itself ‘Islamic Jihad’

Nov 15, 2012 2:40am EST  --  Report as abuse

Where were you while Israel suffered HUNDREDS of missile, mortar and rockets attacks from the Gaza Strip during the last months? Over 800 since the beginning of the year!
Where are the pictures of the destroyed Israeli homes during these months and the tear-jerking images of elderly disabled Israelis UNABLE TO RUN TO THE BOMB SHELTERS?

Nov 15, 2012 2:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
Obiter-dicta wrote:

The problem with all the comments referring to an armed response by either party being “civilized”, is firstly that war is never civil. Secondly, even if a war may not be civil, it may be just. Whether or not an act of aggression is just or not, is determined by the laws of war. The laws of war distinguish between the question of whether or not a party had just cause for the act of aggression, and whether or not the way in which the act of aggression is carried out is lawful.
The last question is partly concerned with whether or not the aggressor responds proportionally to the threat, and whether or not it distinguishes between military and civilian targets.

It is clear, and has been confirmed by scholars several times, that Israel in its engagements in Gaza does not successfully distinguish between military and civilian targets and that it does not respond proportionally to the threats.

Even if Hamas commits the same offenses, that does not legitimize Israel´s acts.

To any of you saying Hamas or the Palestinians deserve this or that, remember that a key and foundational principle of civilized societies, is its respect for the rule of law. Therefore, if you disregard what is lawful, you are in risk of supporting an uncivilized and brutal state of affairs.

Cheers.

Nov 15, 2012 3:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
edgyinchina wrote:

Israel is itching for a fight, and Obama won’t let them attack Iran. Consequently, Hamas in the Gaza Strip is taking the brunt….
The US Congress needs to either declare America as a province of Israel or get busy changing US policy….

Nov 15, 2012 4:18am EST  --  Report as abuse

What is wrong with you people? 3 people killed by a rocket and you don’t even show an image? What is it with you? Do Jews not bleed? Where is true journalistic objectivity? How many rockets need to be showered on civilians before you put pen to paper? Close to 500 in the last week alone are not enough? Were it not for the bomb shelters hundreds of women and children would have died already. Oh, I forgot. They don’t count. They are just Jews. They don’t share in yoru notion of humanity. Shameless hypocrits, that is what you are!.

Nov 15, 2012 4:19am EST  --  Report as abuse

Gaza is controlled by Hamas. There is no occupation in Gaza. NOTHING happens without Hamas’s approval. It has eliminated all the voices of dissent, murdered Christians and all political opponents, doesn’t even allow for music to be played at weddings! All Hamas and friends know is kill, kill kill. This is the second generation that is being raised to love a culture of death. This is child abuse in a massive scaale Shame on all of you for allowing it to happen.

Nov 15, 2012 4:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
JMHNY wrote:

@McBob08
I understand that you have an anti-Semitic agenda and it isn’t reasonable for you to be able to back that up with true statements, but the civilian:casualty ratio among Palestinians is the lowest of any similar asymmetric conflict, and is somewhere between 3:2 and 1:1. It is certainly not 40:1.

@Obiter-dicta
When you say Israel does not successfully distinguish between civilians and soldiers, but if that is the case, then at least in relative terms, doesn’t the comparable to higher civilian:combatant casualty ratio in other asymmetric conflicts suggest that *no one* does? In that case, that claim is meaningless in the real world. Similarly, what does “proportionally” mean? Nasser had this great idea called the War of Attrition. There are more Egyptians than Israelis, so if we keep making minor attacks, eventually the Israelis will have to leave. Golda Meir’s response was to respond with disproportionate force in the face of each incursion, because otherwise Nasser would have been correct. Would it be better if Israel also fired unsophisticated Qassams and Grads at civilian areas? That would be indisputably proportional. Israel has to respond with overwhelming force to bring about a ceasefire, and the alternative is not tolerable.

You can find someone who holds any position. There are more than enough legal scholars who will say the opposite of what yours do. The fact is that the IDF does have an ethical code and does try to prevent civilian casualties. Hamas does not have one and deliberately inflicts civilian casualties. Israel has been responding to rocket fire with proportional force for months, and it hasn’t worked. It is unconscionable for the IDF to let it continue indefinitely, which calls for stronger measures.

Nov 15, 2012 5:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
SPPM wrote:

Dear Nadil al-Mughrabi,

I find it strange that your headline reads three Isrealis killed by Hamas when further down, fudged in a block of text, you state – as if in an afterthought – that Israel killed “13 people, including five militants, three children and a pregnant woman. More than 100 [presumably palistinians?] were wounded.”

A person unsceptical about media bias towards Isreal would be perplexed at this lack of emphasis on what is nothing other than a heinous act of the highest order. In the 1998 Omagh bombing by the IRA in Northern Ireland, the single most remembered fact is not the number of people that were killed but the fact that a pregnant woman lost her life in the incident.

I have great respect for Reuters find your articles some of the most informative and unbiased out there, but when it comes to the above article, and your reporting generally on this conflict, I believe your reporting falls severely short of your own high standards of impartiality.

Can you please explain to me why this is the case (of if I am mistaken and why that might be)?

Reuters is one of the most reputed news agencies in the world. You have a duty to report the news in an impartial manner and not to seek to sway public opinion in favour of one side or the other, which of course you have the power to do. Therefore, I implore you to lay out all the facts as they are and give each fact the emphasis than common sense dictacts should be placed upon it. It should then be for the public to form their own views on what was reported.

I would be very grateful for an explanation on your manner of writing this article.

Kind regards,

A concerned reader.

Nov 15, 2012 6:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

Danzig83 wrote:

“Israel has every right to defend itself against the barbaric territories that surround it.”

Does Palestine have a right to defend itself against the barbaric Israelis occupying their land, and imprisoning the Gazans in the worlds biggest concentration camp?

Nov 15, 2012 6:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
Obiter-dicta wrote:

@JMHNY
The question is not whether or not civilians in fact die. The question is whether or not Israel does what can be done so that civilian casualties do not occur. Even in unconventional warfare, this is a prerequisite for any act of aggression. If it is not possible to distinguish between combatants and civilians, then the act may be unlawful if it is carried out even if the party has a legitimate reason to defend itself.

To give an example: if you use white phosphor in a densely populated area, then this mean to cripple the initial aggressor does not distinguish between combatants and civilians. The same goes for using missiles that are too powerful than just to hit militant combatants in such an area. It would still be legitimate to attack the aggressor, but the means would have to be other.

The question of proportionality is closely related to the reason why the act of aggression is committed:

If the act of aggression is lawful because it is an act of self-defense, then the act may just be carried out by such means that would protect the self-defending party. If the party exceeds this somewhat blurred limit, then the act is unlawful.

To give an example from real life:
If Israel attacks Gaza as an act of self-defense to Hamas´ rockets, then the bombing of civilian infrastructure is disproportionate and will constitute the act of war crimes (2008-2009).

Furthermore, your comment is based on your own views and serve, as far as I can see, your purpose of legitimizing Israel´s acts no matter what they are and no matter what the law is. If you hold this position, just beware that you also disregard the international law of war, potentially international humanitarian law and other legal institutions that serve to protect the interests of innocent civilians in general, also Israelis. If you hold that this should only be the case for Israel, you disregard the basic principle of equality before the law. This kind of view does not, in my view, serve Israel in the long run.

Nov 15, 2012 6:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
RET_SFC wrote:

As usual, Israel shooting back is called a declaration of war (that already existed, according to Hamas) and a war crime, while Israel being shot AT is called a sign of Arab solidarity and a good thing. It should be educational to consider how few Gazans have been killed even as the number of rocket sites hit exceeds 100.

And how few Hamas leaders were brave enough to attend Jaabari’s funeral.

Nov 15, 2012 7:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

I wish Russia or China would give the Palestinians some stinger type ground to air missiles. Israel is great at attacking someone who cannot fight back. If Palestine had a real army, this thing would have been settled long ago. I admire the people of Palestine for fighting against such huge odds, when another country attacks them. The Palestinians are very brave people.
I am not anti Israel, and I am anti Nutanyahoo and his war monger murdering friends.
I knew Israel would break the truce, and they did, which is what started this latest thing.

Nov 15, 2012 7:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
derdutchman wrote:

If you attack my house, to which I have legal claim, I will not sit by and allow you to destroy it either incrementally or wipe it from the face of the planet. I will respond. I will respond with the force I deem sufficient to force you to abandon your attacks. My response will be measured and swift, but not necessarily proportional. I do not have to choose a rock only as large as yours if I can find one big enough to make you cease and desist your indiscriminate killing and maiming. If you place your civilians and innocents in positions of peril, that is your choice, not mine. I do not control your whereabouts. If I did, you would not be in a position to harm me or mine. Make no mistake, the stand my house takes is that my house will stand.

Nov 15, 2012 7:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
BurnerJack wrote:

I see comments to the effect of “Israel slaughtering innocent…”
What I fail to see is those same people deploring the rocket attacks by Hamas killing innocents. This is what renders such rhetoric as absurdly disingenuous.
Hamas says” You have opened the Gates of Hell on yourselves.” Funny thing is, If they could kill more, they WOULD kill more. Such is the way of the rabid dog. Mindless violence. So mindless that they cannot and willnot see the futility of their actions or admit at least to themselves that their people suffer needlessly due to their obsessed quest for power.
Gates of Hell have been opened? Let it be so, let forth the demons so they may be slain and vanquished for all time and peace can reign.

Nov 15, 2012 7:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@RET_SFC

That is because it is Israel that is occupying and settling Palestinian land, and not Palestine occupying and settling Israeli land.

This fact makes Israel the aggressor, and Palestine a country defending itself agains illegal occupation.

Nov 15, 2012 7:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
JamVee wrote:

I’m sorry, but even tho’ I generally support the Palestinian cause(es), I don’t think Israel should sit on their hands, when militant Gazans keep firing missiles at them. From my viewpoint, it appears the Arab militants do this as provocation, which they intend to cause counter attacks by the Israeli’s. Then, because they are the underdogs, they can scream murder and genocide, hoping that the world press will support them. I believe if they stopped firing those missiles in the first place, peace might have a chance. I’m afraid the Palestinian’s have a strong propensity for “cutting off their own noses to spite their face”.

Nov 15, 2012 7:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
Meshallah wrote:

cautious123 wrote the most inane and factually incorrect statement.
If you repeat the same lie over and over again people start to believe.
Even if you look at the Hamas controlled news they aren’t saying that Israel is slaughtering women and children.
The Israelis, while not perfect, are infinitely more civilized than Hamas.
To say that Israel is one of the most brutal regimes since the Nazis, is to exaggerate the situation in Israel in the most extreme way, and to overlook all of the truly brutal regimes that exist today, including the Hamas regime itself where there is no freedom of press for example. Look at Iran, Syria, North Korea, Burma, North Sudan, Bahrain, the former Libya, Saudi Arabia etc.

Nov 15, 2012 7:41am EST  --  Report as abuse

Despicable propaganda…

To compare this to reuters stories on Syria is a news story in itself! The difference in language used to describe the same events is astounding.

You couldn’t have a les credible account of either situation, but that’s life when billionaires rule our media.

You just end up with corporate US state media, and we have this crap shovelled down our throats.

You should be ashamed of yourselves supporting the most violent regime in modern history, and terrorists in Syria on the other hand.

There should be special courts set up to prosecute this gross propaganda on a global level!

It enables mass murderers, enables war, enables terrorism, and enables empire to flourish on our planet…

Nov 15, 2012 7:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
Meshallah wrote:

Jimmy1234 also wrote a ridiculous and factually incorrect comment.
This time it was actually Hamas using phosphorous. Israel used it in a legitimate way in the past not as part of a bomb to inflict burns.
Why do you call Israeli’s animals when it is Hamas who are constantly rocketing civilians (maybe you don’t hear about it all the time, only now there was an increase from a few a week to 100s in few days.
Hamas oppresses their own people. Israel has not attacked Hamas when they were not rocketing or attacking. Israel has been extremely careful about collateral damage. Just look at how much they have accomplished and how few bystanders were hurt. This despite the fact that Hamas weapons depots are under residential buildings next to kindergartens, and despite the fact that Hamas and Islamic Jihad launch rockets from residential areas with human shields. If Israel didn’t care there would be thousands dead.

Hamas doesn’t care if their own people are killed. The Israelis are doing what they can to protect their people (although they could do more if they weren’t trying to avoid hurting the people in Gaza as much as they do). Israel builds shelters, has a warning siren for incoming missiles, and spends tons of money on anti-missile defense systems. It’s Israel you call animals?

Nov 15, 2012 7:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
AZreb wrote:

Egypt brokers a deal with Israel and then Israel breaks it a day later. That would make anyone angry, wouldn’t it? Now Israel is fighting on two fronts – Gaza and Syria – plus angering other countries who are looking for peaceful ways to stop the killing. We in the US are funding and helping arm Israel, while Iran and other countries are funding and helping arm Islamic countries. There can be no good outcome from this – and heaven help us if we are drawn into the conflict.

Nov 15, 2012 8:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
Whittier5 wrote:

What were the Israelis(?) doing on stolen Palestinian Land??

As usual, the Israelis kill 15 after the Palestinian kill & injure 0. Then, the Palestinians kill 3 Invaders, next, Israel will many, while shouting their “Right” to live safely on stolen land.

Nov 15, 2012 8:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillDexter wrote:

I know some of you may have grown up in an ‘educational’ environment that systematically vilifies the U.S. I have seen high school history textbooks that cover WWII by explaining Japanese internment, NAZI sympathizers and the atomic bombs and completely ignore everything else.

I have to assume that the effort to vilify Israel is just that same horse automatically following the same trail. We support them, after all. Young students of world affairs ask yourself:

What would happen if Israel were completely disarmed today? Would the rocket toting Jihadists just go home? Would all the militant Muslim groups who’s mission statement is to destroy Israel and take the land for themselves just go home?

What would happen if instead Hamas was completely disarmed today? Would Israel suddenly say ‘gee, they don’t have little rockets anymore, let’s exterminate them.’

People, if Israel was disarmed today the blood and carnage would make the holocaust look like child’s play. If Hamas was disarmed today there would be peace.

Nov 15, 2012 8:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
drdhesq wrote:

Israel is looking for an excuse to enter Gaza with ground forces and seal the border with Egypt. The forces will stay and that border will be sealed permanently, including the tunnels. Thus Gaza will be totally isolated, with all access controlled by Israel.

Nov 15, 2012 8:43am EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

Wow, It’s not hard to pick out the jew haters. I feel sorry for the poor idoit that actually believes them. Research Isreal and Research Hamas and you decide.

as for me, I hope Isreal cripples Hamas beyond repair. Without Israel, Hamas would simple move on to the next target. France, US, Britian, who knows. I’ve read up on Hamas, and there crazy. I hope they all get wiped out. This BS with fighting in the Gaza strip and civillians getting hurt is terrible. Wipe Hamas out, and fighting in the Gaza strip will be over forever.

@sweetee, well said

Nov 15, 2012 8:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

BillDexter wrote:
“What would happen if Israel were completely disarmed today? Would the rocket toting Jihadists just go home? ”

Ask a pointless question – good job!

You are just throwing up a straw-man, a common tactic from the right-wing. The issue is not whether Israel is armed or not, but whether Israel is occupying Palestinian land or not.

So, to reveal your straw-man for what it is, whether the rocket toting Palestinian defenders go home or not depends on whether Israel stops occupying and settling Palestinian land or not.

BillDexter wrote:
“What would happen if instead Hamas was completely disarmed today? Would Israel suddenly say ‘gee, they don’t have little rockets anymore, let’s exterminate them.”

In reality, Hamas *is* practically disarmed. They have no army, no military, no airforce, no artillery, and no armour. What has Israel done, in real-life?

They have said “gee, they don’t have little rockets anymore, let’s exterminate them!” and set out to do it incrementally. They have locked them in the Warsaw Ghettoe writ large that Gaza has become, taken more and more land, enlarged existing settlements, connected by road that only Jews can use. They slaughter as many civilians as they can at every excuse they can dream up.

We may not know what would happen to Israel if it were defenceless, but we can see that in real-life Israel is trying to wipe a defenceless Palestine off the map.

Nov 15, 2012 8:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
eastside10 wrote:

Incredibly biased article. Wow

Nov 15, 2012 8:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
MATTY13 wrote:

Mursi said the attacks, “would lead to instability in the region.” Really! Just what was it before?

Nov 15, 2012 8:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
PAObserver wrote:

Palestinians do not want a state, as has been demonstrated. They want the destruction of Israel. It is the only reason there are a phony, made up people disingenuously called Palestinians. The Left likes to talk about the influence oil money had on the Bush administration. The ignorance of people in this matter is the real purchase made by OPEC.

Nov 15, 2012 9:01am EST  --  Report as abuse
AmiGoHome wrote:

OMG, Israel stepped all over these people, shot at them, killed their men, women, and children . . . and they are shooting back. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!!

It’s called Karma, get used to it.

Nov 15, 2012 9:08am EST  --  Report as abuse
twocentsplain wrote:

“The sudden conflict, launched by Israel with the killing of Hamas’s military chief, pours oil on the fire of a Middle East already ablaze with two years of revolution and an out-of-control civil war in Syria.”

Hmmm . . . and here I thought Hamas terrorists firing rockets into Israel over the past several weeks/months was the cause of the conflict. I should have known that Israel is supposed to allow itself to be bombed and that any acts of self-defense would be characterized as Israel launching a conflict.

Nov 15, 2012 9:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
RickSmith wrote:

Why does Israel put up with this?
They know who, what, where, when and why.
If the politicians really cared about their
people, they would go in there and clean out
that rat’s nest once and for all.
Line up the terrorists, who are military
combatants, and execute all of them, on the spot.
Then march every last man, woman, and child
in Gaza south, across the border into Egypt.
Then totally demolish Gaza. Every last stone
down to the ground.

Nov 15, 2012 9:22am EST  --  Report as abuse

“Enclave”. that’s a euphamism for an open air prison where Israel decides how many calories per civilian prisnor gets into the walled in Bantustan.

Nov 15, 2012 9:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
racont wrote:

It’s about time they restarted the action. Popcorn ready, OK…Go!

Nov 15, 2012 9:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
sydney111 wrote:

I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.” Genesis 12:3

Nov 15, 2012 9:28am EST  --  Report as abuse
JoeBUSA wrote:

The Israelis should really annihilate all these terrorists. Don’t give them opportunity to ever launch another terror attack.

Nov 15, 2012 9:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
LC_CPA wrote:

Palestinian land…I believe the “Jews” were there long before there were “Palestinians”…Throughout history some “ethnic group” has been displacing some other “ethnic group”. The Jews, were ‘officially’ recognized as having a ‘homeland’ in the late 40′s… The “Palestinians” have been sitting there, gnashing their teeth and wailing every since… As the Libs say, “Get over it”. Oh, that’s right rather than getting over it, the Palestinians rather blow themselves up and kill women and children, not as collateral damage, but on purpose… Nice people…Wouldn’t want them in my country.. Oops, wrong. They are already here! Watch for suicide bombers near you!

Nov 15, 2012 9:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillDexter wrote:

Aha. Asking what the Jihadists would do if Israel was disarmed is a straw man but, what, asking what they would do if Israel left the strip is not? Riiight. Here is a straw man for you, how ’bout this: Israel gets out of the strip right now never to return – but – if anyone attacks Israel from the strip Israel responds as they please. Deal?

You point out that Hamas *is* practically disarmed – and has Israel exterminated them? No? That’s the point Abulafiah, Israel has never proclaimed any intention of exterminating anyone, they only want to have their land. Palistinians claim all Israeli land for themselves and set as their mission the destruction of Israel. If Israel stopped blockading the strip what would happen? Would Muslims stop bringing in weapons? Call that question a straw man if you wish but realize that the Israeli occupation is precisely to PREVENT war with the Palestinians by disarming them. The only reason any of this exists is simply because the Muslims WILL NOT STOP and the only alternative is all out war.

The truth that you avoid is that the Muslims want to annihilate Israel and strangely enough, the Israelis don’t seem all that interested in being annihilated.

Nov 15, 2012 9:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
act1 wrote:

By firing its rockets at Israel Hamas has declared war. Why does Hamas go running to Egypt complaining that Israel responds in kind? Attack a tiger and get clawed. Dumb and dumber.

Nov 15, 2012 9:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

@McBob08: The civilian casualty figures the Hamas administration is claiming might be right — Israeli missiles blowing up militant vehicles driving in the middle of an otherwise deserted street, & blowing up underground rocket storage facilities, might have also killed a 7-year-old girl and several other children as collateral damage — but until we get eye-witness accounts and proper independent investigations by doctors who are not potentially influenced by Hamas, showing clearly that say those children were killed purely by Israeli weapons fire and that the Palestinians did everything they could to save them; I’ll continue to believe that:
• Hamas were negligent toward the safety of their own people by putting weapons storage facilities so close to residential areas.
• Someone let those children die for propaganda (as a “human shield” strategy to make it less politically viable for Israel to kill bloodthirsty militants).

IT’s brutal. IT’s wrong. Those children should not have died — they should have had a chance to live peaceful and productive lives. But as long as Hamas is firing those missiles indiscriminately at Israeli civilians including children, and storing large quantities of rockets close to civilians; it’s TOUGH, and it’s the fault of HAMAS as much as it’s anyone else’s fault.

Nov 15, 2012 9:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
LC_CPA wrote:

How’s that “hope and change” working out for all you Europeans now? Glad the MSM managed to keep a lid on all this ‘successful’ foreign policy until after the election….All I can say is “Go, Israel”. Don’t count on the “Anointed One” for any help! It’s long past time to “Cut off the head of the snake, Take out Iran’s Islamic terrorists and do the world a favor… Maybe we will be able to help, in four years after Obummer leaves!

Nov 15, 2012 9:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
KDupre wrote:

Hamas fires rockets into Israel and they are surprised and cry foul that Israel retaliates? Really? Why shouldn’t Israel retaliate? They have a right to protect themselves against these crazies.

Hamas is either pure bull-goose stupid or crazy take your choice.

Nov 15, 2012 9:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
rgbviews wrote:

The Israeli provocation of Gaza militants and Syria appears to linked to the upcoming Palestinian bid at the United Nations this month and the Israeli elections in January.

However, the strategy to stir up conflict so that you can demonize your opposition with propaganda is tired and worn. It may just backfire, as even more countries could begin to see Israel as the demon in the region. The Yahoo government may lose on this one, as more and more Israeli voters may realize that exercising military muscle will not secure a peaceful future for their state.

Nov 15, 2012 9:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
Sweatee wrote:

Your reporter is not being transparent in their disclosure and this representative reflects in an adverse manner with respect to the editorial Staff and the corporate image of Reuters.

Over 800 missiles shot into Israel by rogue groups in a non recognized state in the last year, allows a sovereign nation to target and destroy their provocateurs and their leaders to protect the nation’s rights for security.

Read this presentation and commence enlightening your readership if you are going to make the news instead of reporting the news.

Nov 15, 2012 10:01am EST  --  Report as abuse
boreal wrote:

Be real. The much touted 800 or so missiles fired on Israel by Hamas are nothing more than armature stove pipe, made in the garage contractions. They are as effective as shooting small caliber blanks at an armored personal carrier. If the Palestinian missiles would have more punching power with advanced track and navigational guidance system capable of honing on to Israeli leaders’ cell phones then the duel for Palestine would be a bit more even. Until then, Israel with is advanced war machinery – supported by slavish diligence of US taxpayers’ generous cash contribution – hunting down Palestinians, going to war with defenseless Gaza is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Nov 15, 2012 10:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

BillDexter wrote:
“has Israel exterminated them? No?”

Not yet. Work in progress. They are getting closer to it.

BillDexter wrote:
“Israel has never proclaimed any intention of exterminating anyone, they only want to have their land.”

It is not Israel’s land. It is Palestinian land.

If all Israel wants is ‘their land’ they should withdraw to the 1948 borders. You know as well as I do they will never do that.

BillDexter wrote:
“Palistinians claim all Israeli land for themselves”

Ever heard of Eretz Ysrael? To achieve that, Palestine must be wiped off the map. By amazing coincidence, that is exactly what is happening…

Nov 15, 2012 10:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
dc858585 wrote:

Ok, all politics aside. Take your bigotry and your racism somewhere else and think about it like this. Gaza shoots rockets into Israel all the time, and Israel shows a lot more restraint than people give them credit for.

WOULD YOU NOT, return fire to a group of people attacking you? How then can anyone sit there and get mad at Israel for defending itself? Thats like someone punching you in the face, and if you retaliate everyone else around you gets mad and says you shouldn’t hit them back.

I’m starting to agree with Ron Whyte. “You can’t fix stupid.”

Nov 15, 2012 10:14am EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

@Abulafish – yeah, i suppose your right there. Though im not sure how many jews hate israel, seems like an extreme minortiy.

Nov 15, 2012 10:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
drdhesq wrote:

Israel wishes to send in ground forces in order to seal the Gaza border with Egypt, including any tunnels. The forces will remain to patrol this border. Thus Israel will control all access to Gaza.

Nov 15, 2012 10:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
DominicPaz wrote:

Hamas indiscriminately targeting civilians instead of soldiers. Thanks for reminding me why I have no sympathy for your cause.

Nov 15, 2012 10:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
ChuckK wrote:

@Abulafiah – “It is not Israel’s land. It is Palestinian land.”

What the Palestinians need to understand is that the rest of the world thinks they are a bunch of ignorant stone-age barbarians that refuse to live in the modern world. Instead of making intelligent choices, like getting along with everyone else, becoming productive, building wealth, making their nation a place where children see a promising future of happiness, they’ve decided to follow the path of religious zealots under the false assumption that they will be rewarded once they are dead.

News to Palestinians – once your dead, your dead. You are of no use to the world and if there is a God, he certainly isn’t going to reward people for living a life of violence and destruction. I know that’s what you’ve been programed to believe. You need to pull your heads out of your arses and wake up. God is going to judge you on how well you provided for your children, your neighbors and whether or not you got along with other people. He’s NOT going to give you a reward for selfishly killing people, stranding your children and making the world a worse place to live.

Nov 15, 2012 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
roughman wrote:

Not to worry.

I understand that in the event of another Mid-East war, President Obama has a plan to jump in on the side of the Arabs, and to arrest all Jews in the United States…

Nov 15, 2012 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
DominicPaz wrote:

Guess one reason why civilized countries locate army bases and weapons caches far away from civilian populations?

Because … they could be military targets and they don’t want civilians to get killed. Hamas – take note. Unless, oh yeah that’s your strategy to store them so that if they are attacked civilians will be hurt and then you can play the victim.

Nov 15, 2012 10:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

ChuckK wrote:
“What the Palestinians need to understand is that the rest of the world thinks they are a bunch of ignorant stone-age barbarians that refuse to live in the modern world.”

Do you really believe the whole world is admiring Israel?

Nov 15, 2012 11:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillDexter wrote:

Oh, okay fair enough, Abulafiah. Lets fix Israel by redrawing the map but be sure to pick a time in history when the Muslims had overrun the infidels and driven them out. Be sure to never mention the mission of Hamas to retake all the land and eliminate Judaism in it and most of all, never mention the fundamentalist Muslims who wage Jihad by murdering Jews with those primitive weapons.

Nov 15, 2012 11:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
Kojac wrote:

Israel says America spent billions on the Iron Dome program and they are now safe!! Then they say they got bombed by Palistinians! I think Americans need to quit wasting money on Israel! Obviously it is not helping them! They use us Americans like whores anyway! Zionist should fight they`re own wars!

Nov 15, 2012 11:25am EST  --  Report as abuse

So what is the “final solution”? any constructive comments? Hate is the cancer here and this is something not going to go away for centuries to come, it’s in the DNA of all israelies and palestinians.

Nov 15, 2012 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse

So what is the “final solution”? any constructive comments? Hate is the cancer here and this is something not going to go away for centuries to come, it’s in the DNA of all israelies and palestinians.

Nov 15, 2012 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
supremacy wrote:

Good. The savages want to poke the most advanced military in the region in the eye, and then claim the status of victim? Let them burn.

Nov 15, 2012 12:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AZWarrior wrote:

The idea of land for peace is totally discredited. All Hamas has to offer is hate and death.

Nov 15, 2012 12:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Jakesterman wrote:

“The sudden conflict, launched by Israel with the killing of Hamas’s military chief…”

The “sudden conflict” started three days before Israel killed Hamas’s military chief… it started with Hamas firing over 100 rockets into Israel.

Nov 15, 2012 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Brazilian1 wrote:

Dear Mr. al-mughrabi

It is incorrect to say Israel has launched the conflict.

In case you have not had the opportunity to be a little better informed about the sequence of the facts, please check the items bellow:

– October 23
An IDF officer is critically wounded by an explosive device while on patrol near the Gaza border fence. PFLP takes responsibility.

- November 6
An explosion along the Gaza border fence injures three IDF soldiers. Palestinians later fire a Kassam rocket into southern Israel. The same day, Palestinians detonate a massive tunnel along the border, causing no injuries but knocking an IDF jeep sideways.

- November 8
In a firefight with Palestinians, apparent IDF fire kills a 13-year-old Palestinian boy. Palestinian mortar shells lightly injure an IDF soldier along the border later in the day.

- November 9
Palestinians fire an anti-tank missile at an IDF jeep on patrol along the Gaza border, wounding four soldiers. Immediately afterwards, IDF tanks return fire into Gaza, killing five Palestinians and wounding at least 25. Palestinians later fire a number of Qassam rockets into southern Israel.

- November 10-12
Palestinian terror groups fire upwards of 100 rockets and mortars into southern Israel. Islamic Jihad and a Salafi Jihadist group claim responsibility for a majority of the rockets. At least eight Israelis are injured in the attacks.

- November 13
An apparent cease-fire is mediated between Israel and Hamas, with both sides conditioning their silence on the other side’s halting attacks. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu warns of future strikes, saying “I am responsible for choosing the right time to exact the highest possible price – and so it will be.”

- November 14
Four rockets hit southern Israel in the morning; the IDF says it is looking into the possibility the rockets were fired from Sinai.

Nov 15, 2012 12:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
thesafesrufer wrote:

The United States should support Israel 110%.

Nov 15, 2012 12:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Brazilian1 wrote:

@ boreal

Palestinian rockets are not “home made” projectiles – they are deadly and threaten a large number of Israeli population centers. Gaza’s status as a terror base has also been enhanced as a result of quantities of upgraded weaponry smuggled from Sudan, Libya and Iran, which pose an even greater threat to the Israeli civilian population.

Please find the ranges bellow:
HEAVY MORTAR = 9.7 KM
QASSAM ROCKET = 17.7 KM
GRAD ROCKET = 20 KM
UPGRADED GRAD ROCKET = 48 KM

Number of inhabitants in Israeli towns within the range

YAVNE = 33,500
ASHDOD = 212,500
KIRYAT GAT = 48,000
ASHKELOM = 118,000
SDEROT = 21,000
NETIVOT = 28,000
0FAKIM = 24,500
BE’ER SHEVA = 196,500
ESHKOL REGIONAL COUNCIL = 11,000

Nov 15, 2012 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WyattEarp wrote:

And once again the French don’t know what they’re talking about.

Nov 15, 2012 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wrote:

How many more women and children does Israel intend to kill this time? Israel is an indiscriminate killer. You do not need to kill so many women and children unless you’re practicing a hypocritical genocide against the Palestinian people. Kill those who are shooting at you. If they hide among women and children, wait until they’re alone. We’ve given you all the surveillance tools you need to make this happen, yet you continue to kill hundreds, perhaps thousands, of women and children because some funky Gaza rockets explode in some grapeyard field in Israel. Who are you kidding.

Nov 15, 2012 12:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
America_1st wrote:

This has to be more of a cleaning house before dealing with Iran. There needs to be no distractions when that happens.
Palestinians are stupid for provoking the Israelis and not policing themselves, they really must be brainwashed by their leadership. They will pay a heavy cost and lose for such a culture.

Nov 15, 2012 12:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fuzzy57 wrote:

It is very obvious, that are are some plants in this blog. The people siding with Hamas, are not mentioning that Hamas has been shooting rockets into Israel almost non stop. I would like for Israel to take what ever steps are needed for the survival of Israel. Israel is surgically bombing Hamas hangouts and not just bombing everything in site, which would kill thousands of civilians. Unlike hamas that hide behind the civilians and can care less who they kill to get to Israel civilians. Israel needs to just bomb the likes of all palestinians and be done with the Hamas murders. The Palestinans are just as bad as the terrorists by supporting them. Kill them all and get this Palestinian game over with. Sad to be that way, but the Palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE AND WANT THE ISRALEI PEOPLE DESTROYD. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!

Nov 15, 2012 1:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

@ Brazillian1 , Thank you. Agreed.

@Supremacy – haha, good point

Nov 15, 2012 1:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse

- November 13
Quoted from Brazils’ comment above:
An apparent cease-fire is mediated between Israel and Hamas, with both sides conditioning their silence on the other side’s halting attacks. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu warns of future strikes, saying “I am responsible for choosing the right time to exact the highest possible price – and so it will be.”
These are somehow words that Shailock would use called “pound of flesh”. Blood thirsty animals killing innocent people.

Nov 15, 2012 1:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

Wonder why the actual bombing of the Hamas military leader was filmed and shown to the world press?

Nov 15, 2012 1:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
rgbviews wrote:

Israel is playing politics with human lives as pawns.

Israel interfered with the US elections.
Israel wants to interfere in Palestinian elections.
Israel’s yahoo seeks points in the Israeli elections.

Nov 15, 2012 1:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
criley401 wrote:

“The sudden conflict launched by Israel with the killing of Hamas Military chief pours oil on the fire of a Middle East already ablaze”

What kind of statement is this? the Palestinians have been launching rockets into Israel for weeks now. I guess you go with the statement it’s not a fight unless two people are involved. It’s the way bullies in school are treated. As long as the other kid does not hit back it’s not a fight. Well it is a fight, and no nation should tolerate its border towns being bombed on a regular or irregular basis. You should just tell the story and leave out the extra commentary unless you have decided to become a liberal version of Fox News.

Nov 15, 2012 1:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Joe_Casepack wrote:

Hamas needs to leave Israel alone. It’s that simple but try to explain that to a Hamas terrorist.

Nov 15, 2012 1:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
indiadrop wrote:

Nidal al-Mughrabi should check his facts before printing non-sense for the world to read. “The offensive began on Wednesday when a precision Israeli airstrike killed Hamas military mastermind Ahmed Al-Jaabari”…..I don’t think so, I guess we can simply ignore the fact that civilians in the South of Israel were living in bomb shelters for the past few weeks…..Yah, that’s totally normal by any standards…..Unfortunately radical Muslims only understand force so and they are bringing all of this on themselves….it’s unfortunate that their civilian population needs to suffer because of their misguided leadership.

Nov 15, 2012 1:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ConradU812 wrote:

I can hardly believe all the anti-semetic posts here. To hate the Jews as much as people posting here claim they do, they would have to also side with Hitler’s view of them, which I’m sure these same people would claim they don’t.

However, if these people want to side with Hamas terrorists, then they deserve no better than what they wish on Israel.

Nov 15, 2012 1:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Renox wrote:

Stop supplying Israeli terrorists with weapons! Remember the bombing of the King David hotel by Israel terrorists? They should have nothing more than sticks and stones. That is all they can handle.
While they are bickering with each other the Chinese are already taking over the land. It will be a big Chinatown soon.

Nov 15, 2012 2:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
specialops wrote:

McBob08-You are a not so innocent bystander to the application of intelligence.

Nov 15, 2012 2:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fuzzy57 wrote:

ConradU812
I concur with your statement, but then again there are a lot of RACIST and also plants that write into these blogs. Some people are put here to get a rise out of people as well as trying to get support for whomever they are supporting. And, there are a lot of ignorant, uneducated people, that just like to hear themselves say hateful and useless comments. Israel will take whatever steps to protect Israeli citizens unlike the USA.Even 1 person matters to Israel, like that 1 soldier that was traded for 1000 terrorist palestinans that were in Israeli jails. Not in the USA!!!

Nov 15, 2012 2:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
RandomName2nd wrote:

The middle east has been in constant conflict for my entire life.
You only have to read through these comments to see why these conflicts last for generations.

Nov 15, 2012 2:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
boreal wrote:

@Brazilian1

Would you care to list Israel’s arsenal? At least some of them. So we could see if Palestinians need an urgent upgrade to match Israel armory stockpiles or not.

Nov 15, 2012 2:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
cautious123 wrote:

Bodies for Ballots in Israel…
“While Israeli officials are quick to rattle off the numbers of projectiles fired from Gaza, rarely do they tell you what they fire into Gaza, what the effects of this fire is and what the fallout from it is.

For example, in 2011, the projectiles fired by the Israeli military into Gaza have been responsible for the death of 108 Palestinians, of which 15 where women or children, and the injury of 468 Palestinians, of which 143 where women or children. The methods by which these causalities were inflicted by Israeli projectiles breaks down as follows: 57 percent, or 310, were caused by Israeli aircraft missile fire; 28 percent, or 150, where from Israeli live ammunition; 11 percent, or 59, were from Israeli tank shells; while another 3 percent, or 18, were from Israeli mortar fire.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/15/bodies-for-ballots.html

Nov 15, 2012 2:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
cautious123 wrote:

The Israelis should know that every rocket they fire and every bomb they drop on Palestine only brings more world hatred upon the Jews. Israel’s reckless foreign policy and support of maniacal thugs like Netanyahu will never bring it peace. So Gaza fired rockets that killed two or three Israelis? Well, what would any American do if another country blockaded our ports, stole our land and water, assassinated our elected officials, and confiscated our tax dollars? Answer that honestly, and you won’t ever again call a Palestinian a terrorist.

Nov 15, 2012 2:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WallaBingBang wrote:

I’m thinking that the Zionist shills have been brought out again to give the appearance that more than a small percentage of people hate Palestinians/Muslims and love Israelis. “Kill the Hamas dogs!,” they say, but who really thinks that way except a hardcore Zionist.

Nov 15, 2012 2:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Torgishere wrote:

Well maybe Hamas should stop shooting rockets!

Nov 15, 2012 2:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

@Wallabingbing, You not going to find many bleeding hearts for terrorist. True, Israel is not very popular, and rightly so but still, Hamas are terrorist.

Also the hate comments “Kill the Hamas Dogs” seem to be directed at Hamas, not Muslims, not Palestinians.

Nov 15, 2012 3:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
OldRed wrote:

Who is this very biased reporter, Nidal al-Mughrabi? He must be a Palestinian? Read this again, “The conflict, launched by Israel with the killing of Hamas’s military chief, pours oil on the fire of a Middle East already ablaze with two years of revolution and an out-of-control civil war in Syria.”
How is it an escalation when Israel is just defending herself? Israeli did NOT start this, The Palestinian militants’ Hamas did! But it is true. If one is an islamist, you can’t draw cartoons or speak evil or complain about allah or his henchman, muhammad & his book, the qur’an, if you do so, you must die. Why are they so intolerant? So childish?
What would you do if you were woken up by someone breaking into your home where you and your wife & kids were sleeping, would you yell at him/her to get out, or would you shoot them instead without any warning? Of course you would defend yourself and kill the intruder. It is your family’s life who is at stake here. Then you would keep the kids in their bedroom so as they wouldn’t see all the blood and guts over the backdoor where the intruder had gotten ingress into the home. Lets face reality here. Who are the instigators here but the Palestinian militants, Hamas. GOOD GOING ISRAEL. Keep the crosshairs on all the militant leaders. IF THERE ARE NO MORE TROUBLEMAKERS THEN THERE CAN BE PEACE. MAKE SURE THOSE CROSSHAIRS ARE ON THE TROUBLEMAKERS IN IRAN TOO.

Nov 15, 2012 3:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ibnal7r wrote:

There are no excuses to kill the children the people of Israel think Will you accept Palestinian kill ur childed ? @Cautious123 Do you feel then angry؟ Imagine the feeling of the people of Palestine you the have the right to life safety and the people of Palestine have the same right

Nov 15, 2012 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Yukon51 wrote:

Israel needs to level everything in Gaza once and for all. Hamas starts the shelling then cries like babies when they get shelled. Israel never had to give them Gaza. Enough is enough it’s time to end it now. Just level them all!

Nov 15, 2012 4:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
toadmaster wrote:

Religion strikes again.

Nov 15, 2012 4:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
austin262 wrote:

you write:

” …The conflict, launched by Israel with the killing of Hamas’s military chief, ”

The conflict was launched by Hamas in Gaza which ‘launched’ over 200 rockets targeting civilians, women and children in Israel since January.

Nov 15, 2012 4:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Darwinrules wrote:

This is not our war. Let’s give Israel what aid we can, but Americans have no business in the Middle East. It is not our war.

Nov 15, 2012 4:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Jimmy1234 wrote:

Israel will never behave as long as they exist.Jewish lobby invest millions in US election and gets Trillion per year for Israel.Their occupation of Palestinian land is illegal but they don’t care about the UN and the world demand. It all started when Israel went to Gaza with Bulldozer to steel more land from Palestine killing five years old.What about the right of Palestinian freedom,Why Israel is allowed to steel land as they please,bulldoze Palestinian homes,burn Palestinian children with phosphorus bomb. Palestinian are not ever allowed to react otherwise they will be called terrorist.Israel don’t even allowed human rights organization in Gaza.You want to know fact that you should know then stop Jewish control media like Fox News and CNN visit:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

Nov 15, 2012 4:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MichaelMann wrote:

The same thing is happening now as when Israel broke their ceasefire agreement with democratically elected Hamas on November 4th, 2008, by killing six Palestinian fighters, knowing that this would provoke Hamas into retaliating and give the Israelis an excuse to launch their pre-planned major attack. Less than two months later godless Israel, using U.S. supplied F-16 fighter jets, Apache helicopters, and naval gunboats, carried out an operation they called “Operation Cast Lead,” murdering nearly 1400 Gazans, most of them women and children.

Poor Israel, a nation that is daily attacking a besieged enclave that has no standing army, no navy, and no air force, while Israel uses the state of the art weapons we supply them, which include jets, gunboats and tanks. Hey Bibi, give us the names of those killed by rockets sent over from the enclave you warmongers have illegally laid siege to and we might believe that these rockets actually present a threat.

Nov 15, 2012 4:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VonHell wrote:

nah… the game looks to be about stop the palestinian bid for UN recognition…
The rocket barrage is not much of a threat if you think about the numbers… 700 rockets fired with only 3 deaths… if you think about it… it is totally ineffective and they cant keep the rate of fire for more than a few days… i doubt the israelis are even trying to intercept more than a small fraction with guided missiles… it would be very expensive…
Israel is in a good position to take Gaza… more today than ever before… those 30k soldiers supported by heavy guns, planes, tanks could do it… much easier than Zukov taking Berlin… but anyone remember the 2009 offensive?… it resulted in a kill ratio of 100 to 1…
Storming and taking Gaza would simply result in the greatest genocide since ww2… just imagine the civilians trapped inside…the city bombed into rubble… fight for every building… thousands of corpses, the stench, the crows… on TV all around the world…

But if you turn to the bible… the promised land was taken by war and genocide… why it would be different this time? both sides want the land and to drive the other out… they dont want peace…

If i had to make a choice, i would choose the Israel side… but thank God i can choose none… and when all the kings and their armies march into the plains of Megiddo (aka armageddon)… i will be watching on TV…

Nov 15, 2012 5:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AnteekGeek wrote:

A couple of 50 year old quotes from Golda Meir seem pertinent here:

“Peace will come to the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”

“We Jews have a secret weapon in our struggle with the Arabs; we have no place to go.”

At Officer Basic School in 1974 I studied the two then-recent middle east wars — 1967 and 1973. Israel was blindsided in both wars by Egypt and the Arab nations. In both wars, Israel captured territory and sent the agressors running tail-tucked. My advice to Hamas and Eqypt and Iran? Tread carefully, boys. Your future may be in jeopardy.

Nov 15, 2012 5:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Robert76 wrote:

Simply put, If the Hamas Terrorists lobbed rockets at my home, I would eliminate the threat once and for all.

Want Peace in the Middle East? Hamas stand down and quit provoking!

Nov 15, 2012 6:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BurnerJack wrote:

@Darwinrules: Yes, it is Israel’s war (for survival). Let’s not forget that they are and have been besieged relentlessy, only wanting to be left in peace. Somehow the Arabs feel that eventually, no matter how many children are killed, they will “push Israel into the sea” and it will be worth while. Too bad the Arabs can’t fathom the benefit and prosperity that awaits them should they accept Israel’s right to exist.
Even before any financial benefits, just imagine what life would be like for the children, on both sides, to no longer live in fear or dream of dying a martyr and instead dream the dreams of other children all over the world.
If Hamas did not provoke Israel to act with defensive wrath, their children would not be suffering, therefore the blood of their own children, as well as Israel’s, is on their own hands. These rocket attacks were NEVER going to be enough to make any meaningful changes. All this suffering and death is for nothing. Nothing at all.
It is a good thing I’m not in charge of these actions. If I were, I might very well order a response so horrific as to give even these Arabs pause for thought. Reminds me of a phrase I used to hear in my youger days:”You want it? You GOT it!”.

Nov 15, 2012 6:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VincentVery wrote:

Danzig83 wrote:
Israel has every right to defend itself against the barbaric territories that surround it.

Really? If those territories are ‘barbaric’ as you describe them then why is it that half a million Jews live in occupied ‘barbaric’ land in settlements which are illegal under the international law and 4th Geneva convention for the last half a century? That is the cause of all the trouble in ME. Besides, if you read Torah, which I doubt, you would know that Torah expressly forbids Jews from having their own state. Israel is an illegal entity created by zionists for one and one reason alone, to start 3rd and last World war. Jews will find out sooner than you think that zionists are not their friends, or anybody else’s for that matter. Did you go to school to achieve that level of ignorance?

Nov 15, 2012 6:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VincentVery wrote:

Robert76 wrote:
“Want Peace in the Middle East? Hamas stand down and quit provoking!”

Want Peace in the Middle East? Give back what you have been stealing since 1967 and Hamas will have no legs to stand on.

Nov 15, 2012 6:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VincentVery wrote:

ChuckK
“God is going to judge you on how well you provided for your children, your neighbors and whether or not you got along with other people.”

95% of water in Gaza is not fit for human consumption, 500.000 Jews are living on Palestinian land in illegal settlements, state sponsored
assassinations, white phosphorus aainst civilian population, falsifying foreign passports to carry out assassinations, 1.5 million living in concentration camp and you make statement like that.

You have some seriously unresolved issues man. God will judge, don’t you worry about that but remember there will be no hole where you will be able to hide your lying ignorant ass.

Nov 15, 2012 6:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kenradke11 wrote:

Iran can keep its nose out of this. Hamas has brought it on themselves. Israel always returns fire when fired upon. Hamas is the aggressor and they will pay the price! Iran should get a load of bombs from Israel dropped on them. They are feeding Hamas with weapons of mass destruction.

Nov 15, 2012 7:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SyriasTruth wrote:

Hey Hamas….You have missed your guess !!

Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into Israel….ordered by Hamas leaders…and now says it must avenge the blood of Hamas terrorists that have launched those rockets, but died by Israeli return fire on Hamas locations.

Hide behind your women and children Hamas! Hide behind your lies and acts of atrocities.
Watch as your own people and families are killed as Israel tries to hit back at your rocket groups. Such groups hiding in schools to launch rockets, hidden in pits in civilian neighborhoods, all firing rockets into Isreael.
Hide you bunch of cowards…and then tell the world you are fighting the good fight ….Just too stupid to be believed.
Your chance of independent statehood, before the entire world, is being destroyed by the very acts Hamas is now doing.

Hamas…you missed your guess if you thought the USA and Israel were not going to act….act by entering Gaza.
They are coming for you Hamas….get ready with your women and children to hide your sorry selves!!

Nov 15, 2012 7:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Yesyes wrote:

To all those firing off the usual accusations of “anti-semitism” and “jew hate” on this message board, please read the following quotes from above:

Charlesjustice: “Lucky Israel killed those unborn twins as they probably would have grown up to dislike Israel.”

RickSmith: “Then march every last man, woman, and child
in Gaza south, across the border into Egypt.
Then totally demolish Gaza. Every last stone
down to the ground.”

ChuckK: “What the Palestinians need to understand is that the rest of the world thinks they are a bunch of ignorant stone-age barbarians that refuse to live in the modern world”

RipVanBulwinkle: “Israel should start a carpet bombing the Gaza strip. Treat it like the allies treated Dresden during WWII. The filthy, pedophile worshiping members of a death cult deserve it.”

Fuzzy57:”Israel needs to just bomb the likes of all palestinians and be done with the Hamas murders. The Palestinans are just as bad as the terrorists by supporting them. Kill them all and get this Palestinian game over with.”

Yukon51: “Israel needs to level everything in Gaza once and for all.”

Delightful comments aren’t they? Now have a scroll through and see if you can find ANYBODY here suggesting the same thing for the jews

Nov 15, 2012 7:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

Hamas is not stupid. After the fake Israeli truce so they could assasinate the Hamas general, there will NEVER be another truce.
But maybe that is what Israel wants.
And excuse for the Palestinian holocaust.

Nov 15, 2012 7:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SyriasTruth wrote:

Hamas is going to have their own people in Gaza killed in the fight Hamas has brought to Gaza….just to claim they have been attacked.

Hamas will commit it’s own people to the slaughter to make their point.

This Hamas action will not aid Palestine….it will destroy it.

Sad to see !!

Israel will have every right to enter Gaza to try and stop Hamas.
Every other citizen in Gaza…..will be a target if they stand too close to Hamas. Their deaths will be on Hamas!!

Nov 15, 2012 7:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Enough123 wrote:

McBob08 – You think America should impose sanctions on Israel? Well yeah, or we could just exterminate every last Palestinian on the planet. It’s a toss up for me. I’m leaning towards the latter but…eh… not a big murderer. I’m just very tird of unciviliced insanity by murderous brutes who don’t care about killing anybody in the name of my God. Let them attack Israel and see whose god shows up…again.

Nov 15, 2012 7:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kommy wrote:

Leveling Gaza very other year is OK, but hitting Tel Aviv in return is oj-wej?

Nov 15, 2012 7:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fuzzy57 wrote:

If the Racist and the Terrorist that are answering the blog in favor of the Terrorist Palestinians and Hamas, don’t want Israel to retaliate, DO NOT KEEP BOMBING ISRAEL. It is not brain surgery, Stop testing Israel. The entire problem in a nutshell is no matter what Israel does in the Palesinians favor, the Palestinians want the Israeli’s DEAD! No matter what. Israel needs to DESTROY THE PALESTINIANS AND GET IT OVER WITH. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Even the children play a deadly role in killing the Israeli’s. They are raised and taught from a child to HATE and KILL Israeli’s. Nice guys finish last. Bomb the Hell out of the Palestinan Barbarians. The Hamas,and Terrorist Palestinians are all involved. War is War. It will be NO LOST killing the civilian women and children. Bet if you are attacked inside or outside your home you’ll talk more RATIONAL and not as much a RACIST and IGNORANT liberal.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nov 15, 2012 7:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
builderxtb wrote:

So, does you “application” that you run skim out the people of the world that do not agree with! Is this application supposedly ‘secure’ by the homeland security agency. You people are part of the problem because you are censoring the prss – worldwide!

Nov 15, 2012 7:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fuzzy57 wrote:

Yesyes- A Palestinian for sure!!

Why should people talk about the destruction of Israel when it has been said NUMEROUS times by Abbott and other heads of the false government, as well as Iran to DESTROY ISRAEL?? You are nothing but a plant in this blog. Tell your people to stop the HUNDREDS OF ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL and HONOR YOUR TRUCE, AND YOU WON’T GET HURT. It is that simple! Why don’t you people teach love and not hate to your children and use your energy to build your homes and buildings like Israel has done. Israel took a desert and built cities, business’s, food, from crops, and filtered water unlike your people. Hatred will be the end of your people. Bye to the Palestinians!! Bye!!

Nov 15, 2012 7:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Jordanians and Syrians, (evicted by other countries) NOW living in Israel who are trying to overthrow the government of Israel need to be attacked at all costs. They are being used by Iran, Saudi’s, etc. to destroy Israel

Nov 15, 2012 7:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
drmorocco wrote:

Set up death camps in Gaza, name them after famous US Senators like Dodd and Lieberman. Exterminate all Palestinis, use gas chambers. It is far more humane than the status quo.

Nov 15, 2012 8:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
builderxtb wrote:

Gather your information, Mossad, the bombs killing people from your American supplied warships that is killing women and children again works. Do you like this kind of murder?

Nov 15, 2012 9:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
builderxtb wrote:

This type of racism has to stop!

Nov 15, 2012 9:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
builderxtb wrote:

To fuzzy57, you lost the thought! Who is false gov and hundreds of rockets? Israel started this thing and bombed a neighborhood in Palestine. Do you think that from the skies when they bomb a place that is not terrorism? Mr. Obama, who supplied these jets to Israel? We need to stop this, not escalate.

Nov 15, 2012 9:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ambotor wrote:

u.s is thousands of miles from terror centers and we still are not safe, isreal is inches from terror centers, Isreal, an ally, a friend, a democracy, a nation yearning to be free from war,
forced to the brink again and again by arabs surrounding them, from day 1, to today, will it ever stop?

Nov 15, 2012 9:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Yesyes wrote:

@Fuzzy57

“Yesyes- A Palestinian for sure!!

Why should people talk about the destruction of Israel when it has been said NUMEROUS times by Abbott and other heads of the false government, as well as Iran to DESTROY ISRAEL?? You are nothing but a plant in this blog. Tell your people to stop the HUNDREDS OF ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL and HONOR YOUR TRUCE, AND YOU WON’T GET HURT. It is that simple! Why don’t you people teach love and not hate to your children and use your energy to build your homes and buildings like Israel has done. Israel took a desert and built cities, business’s, food, from crops, and filtered water unlike your people. Hatred will be the end of your people. Bye to the Palestinians!! Bye!!”

It seems the extreme hatred you have toward Palestinians has compromised your ability to think rationally. You’ve just written yet another hate filled tirade while simultaneously telling others to stop their hatred. How does that make sense in your head?

By the way, I’m Irish. Where are you from?

Nov 15, 2012 9:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Yesyes wrote:

@Fuzzy57 It also doesn’t escape my attention that in nearly all your comments to date you accuse everybody not siding with you of being a racist, and then follow up with a series of extremely racist statements yourself (Your comment history speaks volumes)

Nov 15, 2012 9:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
crawnothecraw wrote:

You kick and kick and kick the sleeping lion. When it awakes and bites back, you cry “What did I do to deserve this?”

Nov 15, 2012 10:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
nolemming wrote:

It would be nice to let the two fight it out fairly, same weapons, no supporters. Neither the Palestinians nor the Isralites understand anything but hatred and anger toward each other. They are both just as uncivilized as each other, both look to their childish fairytales as justification.

Nov 15, 2012 11:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fuzzy57 wrote:

If Israel wasn’t compassionate, fair, understanding and more than anything wanting PEACE, the Palestinians would have been DESTROYED many years ago. The Palestinians DO NOY want anything but to DESTROY Israel as they have stated many times before. They are constantly shooting rockets into Israel which is showing they have no plans for anything less than war. They have absolutly nothing that Israel wants or needs but is the opposite for them. ALL Israel has asked foris for them to state and uphold that they will acknowledge the existence of Israel and live in PEACE. They REFUSE time and time again, as their VIOLENT actions uphold their true beliefs and wishs as to the destruction of Israel and their citizens. Hamas MUST be taken out with the terrorist Palestinains, before any and All talks can continue. As the violent and brutal Palestinian rulers can not be trusted and their word is fr from honorable. Israel MUST do what they have to do, but don’t want to do for their own SURVIVAL.

Nov 16, 2012 12:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fuzzy57 wrote:

Yesyes- I have not accused anyone of being racist. In the comments, it is very obvious as to those that are siding with the Palestinians when it is them that continues to shoot rockets into Israel. It is them that does not honor truces. It is them that speaks out to the Destruction of Israel and its people. How else would anyone with any sanity and common sense come to any other conclusion but Racisim? No, you are one of the pathetic people that sees what he wants to see and not what is truly happening and going on. Israel has tried for years and years to live in PEACE and is always blindsided with someone attacking them out of the blue, due to HATRED. Israel has their short comings just like all countries, but to live in fear due too prejudice and not being liked due to religion is not right or in the name of humanity. These terrorist overall are people that want death of the USA, Israel, Britain and all that do not believe in the same as they think. Which is pushing the name of their g*d, laws and beliefs throughout the world and dominate all people and only they would rule in its entirely. These people only understand tough and precise responses and nothing else but a strong arm. They cannot be trusted or spoken to for peace at all. They are barbaric people and even their children are raised this way.

Nov 16, 2012 1:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
boonteetan wrote:

Attack, counter-attack, counter-counter-attack….

For months Israel has been preparing to air bomb Iran’s nuclear facility only to be repeatedly thwarted by the US. Is the nation now venting its frustration on Gaza?

Relentless brutal bombing is not acceptable. But then what can the rest of the world do? It happened before, it is happening, and it will happen again.
(mtd1943, vzc1943)

Nov 16, 2012 1:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
Yesyes wrote:

@Fuzzy57 Never accused anybody of being racist? You print it IN CAPITAL LETTERS everytime you say it, and once again you’ve embarked on yet another racist rant. You’re only digging yourself further and further into a hole here

Nov 16, 2012 5:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
Vorenious wrote:

War is not looming, its been called out!

Nov 16, 2012 5:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
fyreman235 wrote:

The major difference between civilized nations like the US and Israel, and the muslim terrorists is that the US and Israel attempt to surgically take out military sites and leaders. The terrorists randomly take out women and children without regard. The terrorists are animals.

Nov 16, 2012 8:03am EST  --  Report as abuse
RobertHere wrote:

Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood and all of Ishmael may be on the march but they will lose. Those fools in the West who think there can be peace in the middle east will be responsible for the death of millions. Eisenhower sided with Egypt in 1956 against Britain, France and Israel and earned the mohammedans ever lasting contempt for abandoning his allies. LBJ stopped Israel from destroying the Egyptian army in 1968 and lost respect from both sides. Carter, two Bushes and a Clinton came across as cartoon characters trying to barter peace where there will be no peace.
Americans have scores to settle here–let Ishmael and Issac settle their own issue. We have our mohammedan dagger at our throat right here.

Nov 16, 2012 8:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fuzzy57 wrote:

Yesyes- The only people digging themselves into a hole, are people with your lack of common sense and purely RACIST! Also, Hamas and the Palestinian people will dearly pay the price for what they have started. They have as little common sense and intelligence as you. Go fight with them since you support them so much. Put yourself where your mouth is! Get a life Putz!

Nov 16, 2012 8:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
Yesyes wrote:

@Fuzzy57 First you write:

“Yesyes- I have not accused anyone of being racist”

And in your very next comment you write

“Yesyes- The only people digging themselves into a hole, are people with your lack of common sense and purely RACIST!”

Do you suffer from short-term memory loss? Or are you so brainwashed that you really can’t see how much hate and venom are in your words?

Nov 17, 2012 9:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
pretzel wrote:

Hush.. you are giving me a head ache. All of you are angry. All of your comments are indeed inflammatory. Hamas has been lobbing into Israel anything they can. The American Media has underplayed this because of our election cycle. Four years ago the Mid East Peace Process was Dismal.. Now it is absolutely the worst in many years..I blame our State Dept. for not having the fore thought before igniting the Arab Spring, and i understand now why Russia and Chia are angry with the USA’s involvement in the Mid East. We have made it worse, we have encouraged the Muslim Brotherhood, the Hamas, the Opposition to Syria, ( who God only knows what that is) and any other radical Islamist group who winks at Hillary..We have to regroup. We have to rethink our involvement in this region. We have to let Hamas know that their actions are unacceptable. But we also have to have the balls to say, ” Enough is enough, ” No USA funds should go to any Mid East country, not one of them. No money to any country who demand the destruction of another race, another religion, or another group who is a minority. OUR money should only go to the countries who are willing to accept all peoples.. all religions, all secs. Why are we Americans funding Muslims who think Christians are Infidals and are worthless.? Barack Hussein Obama did not win by a landslide, most Americans believe Israel is the first home of true religion, the Chosen. And I can tell you most Americans don’t agree with the Mid East Policies of our POTUS. In fact we think his group are stupid… Everyone of them have sent Mixed Messages to the Mid East. The Mid East is confused by choices of our POTUS. And Hillary Clinton will never be our President, because of her stupid behavior under a POTUS who doesn’t have a clue about how to bring people together. He can’t get USA together, what makes you think he is a capable world leader. “OUR FAIL= your loss in the world goverence of the economy, the MiEast, the China and Russia relationships. We should all be prepared for a 3rd World War. Leadership can’t be found here.

Nov 17, 2012 11:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JMHNY wrote:

@Obiter-Dicta:

I am not interested in “legitimizing Israel’s acts no matter what they are.” If Israel carried out attacks for the purpose of killing unarmed civilians, I would be furious and would consider it illegal. They don’t. Hamas does. Big difference right there.

The most important comment to make about Cast Lead is that this isn’t Cast Lead. You haven’t suggested anything about the current operation that is illegal or negates Israel’s right to defend itself today.

Furthermore, the fact that Israel was making a ground invasion, as proved to be necessary to end the rocket fire, made it inevitable that civilian buildings would be destroyed, as Hamas used them as bases for attacking Israeli soldiers. Hamas police were armed members of a terrorist organization who could have posed a threat to Israeli soldiers. Their status is debatable. Certainly there are isolated incidents of improper conduct that are inevitable in any war, but the idea that the IDF as an organization doesn’t make efforts to distinguish between terrorists and civilians or that it intentionally targets civilians is absurd. I would tend to agree that Israel doesn’t do enough to prosecute those who go astray, but that doesn’t make their actions policy and it doesn’t negate Israel’s right to defend itself now. On the other hand, it would be absurd to claim that Hamas doesn’t commit war crimes as policy.

I do respect international humanitarian law and I expect Israel to follow it to the extent that it is possible, but let’s be honest here. When was the last time it protected Israel? Despite blatant aggression by Hamas and the fact that Israel’s blockade of Gaza has been deemed legal under international law, the fact that Hamas commits war crimes is never more than an afterthought. When was the last time a UN organization called out the governments that support Hamas and Hezbollah and people who encourage the celebration of murderers? Terrorists are never the targets of the invective that is used against Israel and the IDF. Israel is expected to have higher ethical standards than anyone else in the world. Whatever they do. it’s never good enough.

Nov 18, 2012 3:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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