Second cases of Lyme rash are often reinfection

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LHCTom wrote:

Typical dogma promotion

There is plenty of evidence that:

Borrelia is persistent
Antibiotics fail often
CDC testing is poor
Studies used to support treatment were flawed
Research is manipulated to yield desired results

Just search PubMed

Nov 14, 2012 8:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
LHCTom wrote:

“Although… infection may persist for years in untreated patients, the weight of evidence is strongly against persistent infection as the explanation for persistent symptoms in antibiotic-treated patients with Lyme disease,” Steere wrote.

Steere, Wormser and Halperin have been promoting outdated dogmatic ideas to keep their reputations intact – but its failing

Nov 14, 2012 8:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
bobyjavis007 wrote:

That has to be the most retarded writing Ive read today. So you are telling me every time one of my joint become inflamed it was because I just got bite by another one… lmao How did we pay for you to find that out

Nov 15, 2012 5:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
lomonaco wrote:

This study does not prove anything about late stage persistant neuro lyme disease and I take it with a grain of salt. It purtains only to early detection and treatment which in most cases we know is successfull.

I had no bulls eye rash, my Quest and Westchester Medical Center Lyme tests were negatve. The Lyme disease clinic at Westchester Medical Center indicated they could not help me because my Lyme test was negative, although, by this time I had developed late stage Lyme disease and presented many neurological symptoms. I was told to see a neurologist, although, many of my neurological tests showed nothing. Lyme disease was finally accurately dianosed by IGENEX, one of the most accurate Lyme testing facilities in the country as determined by profficiency testing, and Lyme Literate Doctors who saved my life and it took me 5 years of antibiotics and nutritional support to get better. With out this I would be dead because I was dieing.

Because I have been through late stage Lyme disease I know that the Infectious Disease Doctors are wrong with their thinking and they need to open their minds and swallow their pride and admitt that Borrellia can persist in the human body in late stage Lyme Disease for years. Therefore they need to change the guidelines and quit trying to prove to the pubic with these inconclusive studies that try to justify their thinking and the old treatment guilines.

Only progress is made when the parties involve are open minded.

Nov 15, 2012 12:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CampOther wrote:

This is one of several articles I have seen which conflates this study on new rashes and new infection with the issue of chronic Lyme disease or persisting post-treatment symptoms – when the two issues are distinctly separate ones.

Even if one does not believe that Lyme disease can be a chronic infection (which in the scientific world it continues to be a matter of debate if a study like Dr. Embers’ Persistence of Borrelia Burgdorferi after antibiotic treatment in Rhesus Macaques has been published recently and the NIH-NIAID is funding a xenodiagnosis study to see if human hosts with chronic Lyme disease can pass their infection onto lab-raised ticks – hardly a sign the debate has been resolved), the IDSA itself recognizes that a percentage of patients who were treated for Lyme disease go on to have persisting symptoms for months to even years after initial infection. Their organization thinks it is possibly autoimmune and call it Post-Lyme disease syndrome; there are now proteomics studies that have been done which provide markers for this condition.

Whichever model of persisting symptoms you support, it is incorrect to associate this one study with disproving the existence of either a chronic infection or post-infection autoimmune condition in patients with ongoing disease and disability since contracting Lyme disease.

I think that one has to be careful about the utility of the EM or bulls’ eye rash in proper diagnosis of Lyme disease in general: According to Dr. Jorge Benach of Stonybrook University, if more satellite rashes erupt after the initial rash (usually within weeks to months) the infection has disseminated. Also, not all cases of Lyme disease present with an EM rash, and research by Dr. Benjamin Luft has shown that some strains of Borrelia which disseminate with a rash do not cause disease and some without rashes do cause disease.

One study like this is not enough to set the course for Lyme disease, which is an emerging infectious disease which requires more research.

Nov 15, 2012 6:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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