In Benghazi testimony, Petraeus says al Qaeda role known early

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THeRmoNukE wrote:

Becomming obvious. Stevens also was CIA and was either unlawfully holding prisoners at the annex, or was overseeing a weapons clearing operation, shipping unused weapons from the Libyan uprising into Syria. He was a dead man as soon as they decided to attack, it helps greatly to understand why US military stood down. Instead of that scandal, we are suddenly emersed in a love affair scandal involving none less than the CIA director himself.

Nov 15, 2012 10:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse

It’s fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that this was an organized attack. Can riots sometimes get crazy and lead to violence? Certainly. However, from the on-set of this attack it was obvious that someone organized this “protest”, provided weapons and munitons, and stroked the flames of the ignorant Libyan population. Who would do such a thing? A terrorist organization. Petraeus is a smart guy and he and the rest of the CIA knew the truth. Petraeus has had a beef with Obama leading back to the forced resignation of his friend General McChrystal. It will all be swept under the rug but I would bet my bottom dollar the CIA fed false information to the Obama Administration leading up to the election. That organization always has an agenda and it doesn’t always reflect the current President’s views.

Nov 16, 2012 8:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
bpj123 wrote:

xit007- Perhaps you’d like to learn a little history. Attacks on US Embassies and diplomatic outposts have been going on for years. I don’t recall the American people wanting our President’s head on a platter until this attack. We were outraged (as a country) at the perpetrators instead.

Nov 16, 2012 8:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
Overcast451 wrote:

You know, I can’t help but to wonder…

If the information about his affair was ‘released’ by some that had wished to manipulate this testimony..

Just makes one wonder – odd timing, huh?

Nov 16, 2012 8:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
bobber1956 wrote:

bpj123
“Attacks on US Embassies and diplomatic outposts have been going on for years. I don’t recall the American people wanting our President’s head on a platter until this attack.”

Not the point. The point is obama LIED. Then lied to cover up his lies and used others to cover up the fact he was lying about his lies. He is still lying about all of it. He cannot be trusted at all by the American people, the world, or the people that work for him. That makes him totally ineffective as the President, the leader of the free world, and Commander in Chief of the largest and most powerful military in the world. He needs to go. THAT IS THE POINT!

Nov 16, 2012 10:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@bobber, there were no lies. Just because you, and others on the right, are either unable or unwilling to understand that the vast majority of the statements that you and others on the right are using as evidence for ‘lies’ are in fact statements meant to help calm the protests, sometimes violent, that were CURRENTLY active at many of our embassies around the Middle East. These events and those in the Benghazi are separate, yet related events. It appears to me that there are one of three things going on here….

1. The right just does not have the intellectual capacity to understand these complicated situations.
2. They are blinded by their hatred for Obama (whatever drives it), so they are unable to see the facts. The bubble of unreality that Karl Rove demonstrated so well on election night.
3. They do not respect the American Democracy and are doing exactly what they did with Clinton, if you cant beat them find some trumped up charge to impeach them on.

I do not think the majority of the right is that stupid, so IMO the breakdown in %’s for these three scenarios is probably about 20%/40%/40%.

Nov 16, 2012 11:03am EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

59 civilians killed at U.S. embassies and consulates under GW Bush. Where was the conservative ‘outrage’ when that was happening? Or did you guys even notice? 59 killed in the Bush years. This is not new, folks. Time to watch something other than foxnews for a while.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/12/1130950/-If-diplomatic-attacks-are-a-sign-of-weakness-Bush-was-the-weakest-of-all

Nov 16, 2012 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Reuters didn’t mention anything about The General changing his story and Rice intentionally leaving out any mention of al queda or terrorists….

Nov 16, 2012 12:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Stickystones wrote:

Having a congressional hearing on the missteps leading to our latest ambassador’s death is not a conspiracy. When the very recently departed CIA Director talks it’s not some nutjob (if so we’re all in trouble). This is a clear case of following the chain of information from the intelligence community to the WH and the public statements made subsequent. If there is no cover up just incompetence to blame, then so be it (Iraq – GW Bush). If there is a coverup we need to get to the bottom of it, if possible (Iran/Contra – R Reagan). Ollie North took the fall for Reagan and somebody will take the fall for this. Unfortunately, we’ll probably never know the real truth.

Nov 16, 2012 1:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
totherepublic wrote:

Jay-from-Boston
Actually the General said he could not remember ever saying it WAS NOT an al-Qaeda related attack (even on the 14th). What he ded say is that the line mentioning that indeed WAS a terroist attack was somehow deleted (not by him) from his report. He also said he has no idea who deleted it. I believe him. If you are going to get a reliable story you need to look somewhere other than NBC, MSN, CBS, ABC, or Reuters. They all advanced the cover up to re-elect obama. Bill O said to be skeptical of even HIM through all this.

Nov 16, 2012 1:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
oneofthecrowd wrote:

@AlkalineState DailyKos is the left wing activist equivalent of Fox, lemme guess, you work for them or just breathe their San Francisco hooey on a daily basis. Why not report that San Francisco now offers free sex changes for the uninsured next time, and try pointing to a reputable news service, because DailyKos is a load of dailybull.

Nov 16, 2012 1:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WinstonCourt wrote:

Like all of the people who voted to put obama in office, I/we don’t care about this chit.

Now, WHERE IS MY OBAMA-PHONE??? :-)

Nov 16, 2012 2:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Vuenbelvue wrote:

USAPragmatist wrote: I agreed with you until your last paragraph “I do not think the majority of the right is that stupid”. What in the world makes you come to that conclusion?

Nov 16, 2012 2:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ConstFundie wrote:

What a cluster-mess. All that is apparent to me is that our leadership, including the CIA, is politicized to impotence and rank with decadence.

Nov 16, 2012 2:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
yubamary wrote:

@bpj123,AlineState, the point is who changed the information. You guys feel that the right is always right. We as americans deserve to know the truth. Lets face it not everybody voted for this Administration but it is supposed to be an “honest” and ‘transparent” administration.

Nov 16, 2012 3:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

oneofthecrowd, so tell me. Which one of the embassy bombings and 59 civilian deaths that happened under Bush…. did they get wrong? If the source is so bad, point out where. Do you have better facts on that or are you just going to cry :)

Nov 16, 2012 3:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse

The only “lies”, are those coming from “faux news”. You will have to see Bush for your free phone, he is the one that initiated the program.

Nov 16, 2012 3:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

There is no outrage that there was an attack on Obama’s watch…It is how they spun it and lied to limit political damage before an election.
All the posts on this blog defending OBAMA are ignoring the simple fact that he lied………..lied….not that anything else happened – he lied. You twist all the political rhetoric you want and debate it — you can’t defend the lie!!!!! I would give him a pass if he did not lie and asked others to carry the lie!! It was too serious of a situation.

Nov 16, 2012 3:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jaham wrote:

@Alkaline…deflecting to Bush does not, and never will, wipe the culpability for this incident from the Obama admin….

Nov 16, 2012 3:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

I love all these OBAMA apologists

bpj123 wrote:
xit007- Perhaps you’d like to learn a little history. Attacks on US Embassies and diplomatic outposts have been going on for years. I don’t recall the American people wanting our President’s head on a platter until this attack. We were outraged (as a country) at the perpetrators instead.

YOu guys are delusional – who said anyone blames Obama for the attack – he is being blamed for lying and distorting the facts about the attack. Also for having his minions repeat the lies when they knew the facts were different. You don’t play politics with 4 dead Americans.

Guess what fools – Bush may have been an awful president but he never lied about any of the attacks to save his butt…what a bunch of suckups! Start listen and thinking and not just repeating partisan puke!

Nov 16, 2012 4:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jaham wrote:

alkaline…so tell me. Which one of the embassy bombings and 59 civilian deaths that happened under Bush…did they apologize to the terrorists who committed the act, blame a youtube video for, not send any support, or at the very least have an intelligence gaffe where they apparently did not know what was happening?

Nov 16, 2012 4:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PKFA wrote:

Is a simple timeline too much to ask? The root issue is not whether or not it was an organized terrorist attack (it was- who but organized militants bring RPGs to an anti-movie riot?), but what did the President know and when did he know it? Shouldn’t be hard; we’ve been through this before with Nixon, Reagan and Clinton. Enough with the smoke already.

Nov 16, 2012 4:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

jaham, can you show us where Obama ‘apologized to the terrorists who committed the act.’ Can you send us a link? Did foxnews come up with that one before or after Karl Rove cried on tv?

This is getting fun.

Nov 16, 2012 4:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

The inescapable truth is – they watched it happen…..they did nothing to help.

Four people died….and all the posters on this and other sites care about is pontificating about how THEY know what happened.

I know this next comment is based on a belief system that has become hated in this country but I’ll say it nevertheless. One day ALL OF US will stand alone in judgment for the actions taken and not taking in this life. On that day no lie will be good enough.

For those here who act and profess a higher degree of “intelligence,” consider that day…..

Nov 16, 2012 4:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

ALkaline – you are a real thinker with an S. You are a credit to your party and sitcom…I did like your posts on the twinkie site. I suggest you turn all your comments to sarcasm – because they make much more sense.

Nov 16, 2012 4:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@AlkalineState

I guess you do not want to prevent this sort of thing from happening again. You prefer that our military and our President ignore requests for help for 7 hours, and watch for 3 hours as terrorists attack and kill Americans. We can just wait and send in troops later, right? Obama messed up, he didn’t want to own up to it, he covered it up. Months earlier he had a campaign slogan of Bin Laden is dead and Al Queda is on the run. Well a US ambassador is dead, and Al Queda is alive and well.

Democrats, you lost. No one cares about ‘there was no WMDs in Iraq’ except liberals and other huffington post/politico/moveon conspiracy theorists. It is right up there with Iran Contras, and the Conservative plot to take away the seniors medicare and social security…

Nov 16, 2012 4:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ZetaZeta wrote:

It’s hilarious that Republicans think that their manufactured controversy on Benghazi actually matters to anyone now that the election is over. Give it a rest, guys; you tried to make an issue out of nothing and failed. There’s actually important stuff to do now.

Nov 16, 2012 5:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

I guess Obama should take down his “mission accomplished” banner…

Nov 16, 2012 6:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

ZetaZeta…

Isn’t it hilarious that four Americans died? Glad you find that funny…..

“…Make an issue out of nothing?….” yeah….being cut up and killed by a terrorist group is ‘nothing.’ Knowing that the people you serve watched it all unfold on a LIVE Video feed….I can see how that’s a gut-buster…hahahahaha!

If there’s anything that funny it’s that those four unfortunate souls are now in a much better place than you’ll ever be.

Nov 16, 2012 6:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Of course the consulate was a front for the CIA. Good luck getting the CIA to talk. This is an outfit that still denies involvement in the Bay of Pigs.

Nov 16, 2012 7:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ConstFundie wrote:

@TheNewWorld, wait, what exactly are the conspiracy theories about Cheney’s/Bush’s war in Iraq, and Iran Contra? Apparently with proper training, i.e., watching Fox “news”, one can learn to accept that in our new world that reality and truth change from minute to minute as long as it is with desired belief. It’s called delusion.

When you watch a video like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM of Bush Admitting the year-after-year-after-year mistake of claiming WMD’s in Iraq, and that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, you see a blank white screen..a liberal in a Bush mask? what exactly?

Nov 16, 2012 8:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse

This is the same Susan Rice that played her “ambassador card” to block John Paul O’Neill and his investigation for the FBI, into the Cole Bombing, which based on evidence that was uncovered afterward, established ties b/w that bombing and the following attacks that took place on 9-11.

Footnote: O’Neill lost his life in the 9-11 attacks.

Nov 17, 2012 4:38am EST  --  Report as abuse
ConstFundie wrote:

@Chazz, So what, you actually believe that you decide for Jesus Christ who is forgiven and damned? WOW, another self proclaimed prophet, there are just so many.

Nov 17, 2012 1:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
bemore2day wrote:

Facts/Timeline:

-9/11 Cairo, Egypt- The U.S. embassy in Cairo put out a statement early Tuesday. “The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions,”

-9/11 Cairo, Egypt- Hundreds, perhaps thousands of protestors attack the U.S. embassy in anger over the YouTube video mocking the Prophet Muhammad.

-9/11 Benghazi, Libya- Within hours of the Cairo protests, “reports emerged that a similarly sized group had stormed the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Some were calling it a copycat protest, but it was much more perilous: Four Americans were killed in the melee, including the U.S. ambassador.”

“Within 48 hours the world would witness angry protests unfolding at U.S. embassies, businesses and symbols of power in more than 20 countries.”

-OK, under these circumstances, who would disregard the likeliness that these events seem to be related??? We now know better, but it is completely logical to connect the two.

-Now, for protection, or lack of protection at the Consulate in Benghazi:

“The slapdash security that killed Stevens, technician Sean Smith and CIA guards Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty started with a seemingly inconsequential decision by Libya’s new government. After the fall of Muammar Qaddafi, Libya’s interim government barred armed private security firms – foreign and domestic – from operating anywhere in the country.”

“But the core issue before the attack was a lack of resources and skilled management, not shadowy conspiracies.” (By David Rohde)

-Was it acknowledged as a “Terrorist Attack”?

9/13- President Obama in the Rose Garden, “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”

One can argue that Obama didn’t specify the Benghazi attack. But, one could also argue that Roosevelt didn’t specify the attack on Pearl Harbor in his “A date that will live in infamy” speech…yet, we DO KNOW what he meant!…THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT LIED.

-Poor Susan Rice. She was given the talking points and used them. We know our government works in mysterious ways and for whatever reason it provided the talking points she used. This is no reason for John McCain to besmirch her reputation!

Think about it…How many people would actually have changed their vote, if this tragedy was widely reported as a terrorist attack from the very beginning? This is nothing more than grasping at straws from a badly bruised GOP. There is no logical political gain to be made here…it’s like watching Don Quixote battling windmills.

Nov 17, 2012 5:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

@ConstFundie

You’re right…I should not judge….none of us should.

I didn’t not proclaim myself to be a prophet…nor did I proclaim I was speaking for Christ.

I do believe that the four men who died are in a better place, now. I do believe their sacrifice IS/WAS SOMETHING and not laughable. I also believe that there are many of us who will answer for the decision we make… and do not make… during the course of our lives and I say that as a believer, not as a prophet.

Nov 18, 2012 5:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Unbelievable to still see so many right wing partisan hacks still spewing garbage. It is all you do… find posts to spew your partisan nonsense. I am Canadian and see right through you as Republican shills, not defenders of those who were killed in Benghazi.

Your minds are so full of talking points and hatred (from Limbaugh or FOX? Never mind, same thing) that you cannot even understand how deluded you are. The only difference between this and other embassy attacks is the man in office is both Democrat and part black. When things like this happens Americans usually come together to mourn and to defend their country. As it stands you are grasping at straws and making up your own conspiracy theories.

In other words, the only “solution” in your minds is to impeach the newly elected President…. so I see what you you are doing here…and just about anywhere else where bobbleheads are allowed to spread conspiracy theories.

Nov 19, 2012 2:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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