Republicans say party needs revamp after Romney drubbing

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Ralphooo wrote:

But how can they stop? Republican politics has been based on insulting, vilifying or scapegoating vulnerable groups at least since Joe McCarthy. That is the Republican brand. It is the basis of every public statement they make.

The Coca-Cola company might just as well give up fizzy water as Republicans give up insulting people. And “people” means “voters” — except, oh yeah, they want to change that.

Nov 18, 2012 3:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
UnPartisan wrote:

To start with, they need to eliminate the Tea Party from the Republican Party. Then they need to eliminate the religous right from the party. Then they will only be left with about 20% to 30% of their party, and realize that they courted the wrong people. They are going to double down on the zealots. More people will move to the Libertarian party. Democrat policies are going to fail and push their fiscal conservative/social liberal people to the Libertarian party. We will finally get a viable third party in the country. At least I can dream.

Nov 18, 2012 4:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Raelyn wrote:

They are basing their intelligence on destroying Susan Rice and making bigger fools of themselves than ever. They do not understand that it is OK to be nice — being nice seems to be against their DNA — even when they have no facts for basis (they make up their own)..

Nov 18, 2012 4:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Raelyn wrote:

Bobby Jindal sounds good, until you remember that Louisiana is a very poor state, and not getting any better under his governorship.

Nov 18, 2012 4:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
RhondaRahn wrote:

The GOP is the party of NO. They will send us over the fiscal cliff in order to prevent any tax increases for the rich (Boehner, that means you), and now that they are so mad about losing the election, they are drumming up paranoid conspiracy theories about Bengazi (McCain, that means you) in order to attempt to impeach Obama. They are fanatical religious and reproductive extremists who deserves to go the way of the dinosaur.

Nov 18, 2012 5:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

After experiencing the goodness of the campaigns over the last – what, three or four years? – the US needs a revamp of our political system.

We are not governed by individuals – we are governed by “political parties” and “special interest groups” flush with gobs and gobs of cash….. Band I’m talking about BOTH sides.

What these power brokers have done is divide us into teams that they send into battle agains each other while they sit back and line their pockets with riches we’ll never be able to trace – all the while telling us how much they’re working for us and how much they care about us.

Just take a look at EVERY post on EVERY story on this, and on other sites. What do you see? One side bitching, accusing and cursing the other…and to what end? The train called “The United States of America rolls on toward a destination not of our own choosing.

Nov 18, 2012 5:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeannaTx wrote:

it boggles the mind to realize that one of the two primary parties is so incredibly out of touch with not only America but it’s vastly grown diversity. And that insulting vast numbers of this countries citizens wouldn’t cost them the bid for the white house. That’s not even mentioning the what ultimately was such stretches to twist the truth it was obvious to even the least perceptive.
And this party has the majority in our Congressional House?? Now that’s scary! But also explains a great deal.
My Republican party, the party I was a member of for decades no longer exists. In its place is a something so extreme.. so inhumane.. it’s unrecognizable. We need more of our now labeeled RINO’s back and to toss these zealots out on their collective bums. The first kicked to the curb needs to be Grover Norquist. He’s cost the Republican party it’s credibility.

Nov 18, 2012 5:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
lf11 wrote:

The Republican party used to stand for smaller government. When George W. Bush won the election, there seemed to be a wave of folks thinking “Republican” was about “religious freak show.” The fact is, there are plenty of people in the U.S. who are liberty-minded rebels, and Bush succeeded in showing them that the Republican party had changed. Until the Republican party can regain their appeal to lovers of limited government, they are likely to lose every election.

Ron Paul made traditional, limited-government Republican ideas sexy to many young people. By spurning the Ron Paul crowd, the Republican party is divorcing itself from American youth. Unless the Republican party can regain youthful voters, it will fall apart under the sheer weight of its aging demographics.

Nov 18, 2012 5:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse

I still say that there needs to be a “Void Office” box on the ballot to check. If the majority of the country (who is currently being held hostage by, only being allowed to choose, one of two masters to be a slave to) decides to eliminate the office for breech of faith, then so be it. Then we will have solved the entirety of the eternal question between Liberty and Authority, applied to the false God of Democracy

Nov 18, 2012 6:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
nossnevs wrote:

I love them the way they are!

Nov 18, 2012 6:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
t_parker16 wrote:

Yeah, let’s see the GOP come out in support of LGBT families too. Until then, the GOP will be seen by young Americans as the party of grumpy old men.

Nov 18, 2012 8:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kevin2ia wrote:

To these groups – “You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth.” I truly grow tired of providing my earnings. Not sure where that juncture is, but at some point, the earners will quit paying.

Nov 18, 2012 8:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Radical_1 wrote:

Real change has to come from the heart, not the mouth. You have to believe in what you’re saying or the people just see right through you like they did Romney. This is why the rep party will never change.

Nov 18, 2012 9:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
StewartIII wrote:

NewsBusters| Sunday Hype: Reuters Claims a ‘Romney Drubbing,’ Plays Up Talk of a GOP ‘Death Spiral’
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/11/18/sunday-hype-reuters-claims-romney-drubbing-plays-talk-gop-death-spiral

Nov 18, 2012 9:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

kevin2ia: There are some countries in Africa where you can live without paying taxes. What people like yourself fail to understand is that a modern country that is a world leader requires money, and lots of it. Taxation isn’t a punishment. It’s a privilege and a responsibility. You can’t expect the United States to be a good place to live if you want to do away with taxes. You can’t have it both ways. You obviously take far too much for granted. If Republicans got their way and they did away with most taxes, there would be serious consequences. A lot would change for the worse.

I’m really fed up with the cluelessness on the right. It’s killing us. I heard someone complaining today about her daughter’s insurance rates–$2,000 a month for her, her husband, and their two baby boys. She blamed Obamacare. I explained that insurance rates have been too high long before Obama became President. The reason for the runaway healthcare costs and insurance premiums is that we have a free market healthcare system and there are a few individuals who are becoming insanely wealthy selling healthcare, just like oil tycoons making a killing off of oil. Until we address that fact, there’s little we can do to cut healthcare costs. We might be able to slow healthcare costs a little bit, but not enough to be noticed. Obamacare is a market-based, Republican designed plan. We need to take the profit out of our healthcare. That’s the only way to get prices down. The only way.

We have the most expensive and least efficient healthcare system in the world. It will always be too expensive until we change that. Government officials should ask themselves, what can we do so that we no longer have the most expensive, least efficient system in the world. But first Americans have to be willing to change. Again, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t have a free market healthcare system AND lower healthcare costs. So far stupid Americans have sided with keeping the most expensive, least efficient system in the world. Fools.

Nov 18, 2012 10:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
suzyque55 wrote:

Yes, Republicans in 2014 and 2016 just say what you think blacks, women, Hispanics “want” to hear, get elected and then do what you really want to. Stop gifts.

Nov 18, 2012 10:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ckernzie wrote:

Demographics dictate that the Republican Party can no longer be the party of uneducated whites and the uber rich that they pander to. Republican support will continue to dwindle if they don’t do something about their narrowing base of support and the perceptions that minority groups have about them.
Here in Canada the Conservative Party (right wing) has been very successful courting the ‘minority’ and recent immigrant vote because many of these groups are ‘small c’ conservative in nature and their values align with social and fiscal conservatism. They were approached with respect and integrated into the party with numerous minority candidates running in targeted ridings. Now I realize minority groups in the USA differ from Canada due to our history and commonwealth affiliations so it’s not a perfect parallel. For example you’d have a fight on your hands if you called some of our black population ‘African’ as the community is much more diverse than in the States. Our East Indian and Asian groups, who are generally conservative in nature, make up a larger part of our minority population. On the flip side you can’t get more conservative than Catholicism which is the dominate religion of America’s Hispanic minority so why aren’t Republicans embracing these natural conservatives? Unfortunately in America everything seems to revolve around race and racism. As demonstrated by Romney’s comments, the Republican brand of racism seems to label most minorities as low life individuals who live off the welfare state and vote Democrat. Looking in from the outside the Republican Party seems an extremely scary group of individuals characterized by religious zealots, racists and anti-government tea partiers. What Republicans don’t realize or are so blinded by race they don’t care, is that there are plenty of Republican votes in minority communities that they are scaring away. If Republicans embrace the demographics they will find plenty of people in these minority groups that share the same conservative values they do and 2016 won’t look as bleak as it does now.

PS Only in America would a health care system controlled by private insurance companies be called ‘socialist’ ROFL!!

Nov 18, 2012 11:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
breezinthru wrote:

Republicans can’t just “revamp”.

Either you are in agreement with Rush Limbaugh and Fox News pundits or you are not. You can spin it, whip it, beat it with a spoon… but if you believe that your God has given you a mandate to decide whether a woman you don’t even know can legally have an abortion and a holy mandate to decide that men and women can only legally engage in sexual activity with members of the opposite gender and then only after they are officially recognized under the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, then you are still an old school Republican.

If you think that the American government has no obligations to its citizens who are unemployed simply because their jobs no longer exist in this country, then you are still an old school Republican.

If you think it is good policy to round up every last one of the illegal immigrants, even those who have virtually no memory of ever living in any country other than the US, so they can be shipped back to their country of origin, then you are still an old school Republican.

If you think that people on Medicare and Social Security are sucking away more of your wealth than Wall Street, the Defense Industry and Congressional lobbyists than you are still an old school Republican.

If Republicans actually do find a way to revamp their belief system, they will have to share either the Libertarian or Democratic point of view.

If Republicans find that they can’t revamp what they really believe, then they will become politically inconsequential dinosaurs.

Nov 18, 2012 11:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Jerret wrote:

What is with all this talk of “reinventing” the Republican party? This wasn’t a landslide win. Obama got 51% of the vote and Romney received 48%. Bush (remember, one term president) was reelected with 51% as well in 2004 and let’s be honest here, Obama received far more favorable media exposure than Bush did. Obama also received nearly unanimous support from black voters (93% according to exit polls).

Obama barely won and the GOP’s candidate was decent but not exciting.

Reform, sure, but I wouldn’t use this as the trigger.

Nov 18, 2012 11:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Jerret wrote:

What is with all this talk of “reinventing” the Republican party? This wasn’t a landslide win. Obama got 51% of the vote and Romney received 48%. Bush (remember, one term president) was reelected with 51% as well in 2004 and let’s be honest here, Obama received far more favorable media exposure than Bush did. Obama also received nearly unanimous support from black voters (93% according to exit polls).

Obama barely won and the GOP’s candidate was decent but not exciting.

Reform, sure, but I wouldn’t use this as the trigger.

Nov 18, 2012 11:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Teluu wrote:

It’s unfortunate they can’t get over it.

Nov 18, 2012 11:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
elfenstar wrote:

Want to revamp the party? Give up Bush tax cuts for the rich.

Nov 19, 2012 12:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
Mott wrote:

Revamp will require re-write of good portion of conservative values and if done right, will look more liberal that’ll be hard to appeal to it’s own base. Good luck.

Nov 19, 2012 12:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
spall78 wrote:

Jerret, you’re right it wasn’t a landsline, but the demographic shift is why they are suddenly having all this internal debate. The mountain of data that came out of the election paints a very clear picture of a party that needs to reform substantially or continue to slide into irrelevance. It will happen slowly, but it will happen; the only political professionals arguing otherwise are the ideologues who are going to get marginalized when the GOP becomes more inclusive (or those close enough to the end of their careers where they just want to ride it out until they can cash out of the game).

Nov 19, 2012 12:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
CDN_Rebel wrote:

@Jerret You’re missing the point obviously. There are 50 states in America, and in say 21 of them conservatives have a strong base that vote 70-30 for them. But the other 29 states vote 52-48 for the the liberals. So it might look close on the overall scale, but the number of states leaning liberal is growing and the ones going conservative do not exist. So in terms of electing future PotUSs or governorships etc, the Republicans are WAY behind the 8-ball and slipping faster. No one doubts their core base, but it’s not a growing base rather a shrinking one. So you can say popular vote nationwide was 51-48 Obama, but the state count was 29-21 and the electoral college was 330-208… you can’t look at those numbers and not say landslide and be worried.

Nov 19, 2012 12:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
Bensony wrote:

As an observer of the US presidential elections from the developing world, we have come to look upon the Republican Party as an anti-intellectual and somewhat irrational party. We reached this view after following the campaigning style and contents of the parties. The party was also a loose cannon in China bashing and fomenting Sinophobia. We wonder how this could happen when literacy in America is supposed to be so high and the people involved are also highly educated individuals.

Nov 19, 2012 12:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
Gabowski wrote:

Yep, I’m beginning to agree that the Republican Party is lost. The Libertarian Party is looking better all the time but the problem is that the majority of American voters don’t know what Libertarians stand for or they’ve never heard of them. I think that the Democrats are in for a long run, let’s see if they’re the geniuses that they think they are.

Nov 19, 2012 1:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

“Republicans say party needs revamp after Romney drubbing”

No schidt?

Nov 19, 2012 1:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
Shall_KS wrote:

They need to stop wasting time with handlers, big money running races, and recruiting venal candidates who follow orders. Romney was a victim of his puppet string pulling bosses (the tea money bags) which is why he kept flip flopping. Ryan is an empty shirt aspiring to the money bag patronage and his own state sees through that already.

The word the republican party needs to incorporate is humanitarian, and get back to its roots of every individual should be given the tools and the open playing field to make something of themselves.

Any demagogue can blame another group and feed the hate. Stop. Coming out of Palin’s mouth, and now Romney/Ryan, we see it for what it is – no character.

As for the rape boys Akin and Mourdock, they are only mouthing out loud your current party wisdom and we know it. You had better make strong and clear statements that refute this craziness, along with clear support for people making their own family planning choices.

The sheer arrogance of not providing a specific, detailed budget plan is also laziness. ‘In your infinite power and wisdom’, you’ll do that later. NO. Nobody believes knee jerk trickle down voodoo economics as it worked so well under Bush and before. NO.

Nov 19, 2012 3:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
GRRR wrote:

Please let the Republican party die. In turn, Democrats will splinter as they once were, and we will see the rise of a half-dozen political parties who will have to form majority coalitions.

Nov 19, 2012 3:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
dencal26 wrote:

The GOP needs to use Democrat Cities as an example for the future. Democrats win the big cities by wide margins. Last GOP Mayor in New Orleans was 1890, Chicago in the 1930s, Detroit 1961 etc etc. Moral of the story? Deliver Poverty, High Crime and Bad Schools decade after decade and they will blindly reward you with their vote.

Nov 19, 2012 9:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
dencal26 wrote:

Let me educate some of the fools here. The Tea Party is not the religious right. The Tea Party focuses on Fiscal Sanity which is not s terrible thing. You have let the left wing media brainwash you.

Nov 19, 2012 9:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
hoxfan wrote:

The whole Republican brand is based on one bedrock idea: Minorities don’t work for a living; they vote for a living.

Nov 19, 2012 9:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
Ralphooo wrote:

@spall78 You write that the Republican Party will change slowly. As a common-sense voter, looking for some genuine choice, I hope you are right, but I do not see how Republicans can change their present “all hate, all the time” message to something constructive. That is like gradually transforming Godzilla into Bambi. Maybe it’s possible, but selling it to the public is going to sound pretty strange.

Nov 19, 2012 10:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
Ralphooo wrote:

@spall78 You write that the Republican Party will change slowly. As a common-sense voter, looking for some genuine choice, I hope you are right, but I do not see how Republicans can change their present “all hate, all the time” message to something constructive. That is like gradually transforming Godzilla into Bambi. Maybe it’s possible, but selling it to the public is going to sound pretty strange.

Nov 19, 2012 10:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
Sensibility wrote:

“Republicans say party needs revamp after Romney drubbing”

In a word, duh. Nice of you guys to have figured that out, finally.

Nov 19, 2012 11:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
Tuscar wrote:

@Dencal26, The Tea Party that was borne from the Ron Paul supporters in 2007, and other protestors, stood for the things you are claiming. Unfortunately it was quickly corrupted and taken over by the Koch brothers who have been using its candidates for their own ends to protect their monetary and political interests.

Nov 19, 2012 2:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USARealist wrote:

Ckernzie had, by a long shot, the most thoughtful post here. Go Canucks! Most of you commenting are liberal Democrats who want the GOP to be more like the socially and fiscally liberal Democratic party. Imitating Democrats would be the stupidest thing for the GOP to do. If I’m a liberal, I’m going to vote for the real thing, the Democrats and not a Democrat-like GOP! Case in point is Scott Brown, a Republican who voted liberal. What happend to him? The GOP just needs a principled conservative candidate is actually likeable to siphon off (a few) conservative minorities and and get the remaining whites who stayed home (a bunch). Romney was neither principled nor likeable.

Nov 19, 2012 4:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Ralphooo wrote:

@Bensony Most Americans may be able to read (basic literacy), but a lot of us know far too little about the world. Americans do not get routine training in selecting material to read (or watch on TV), which present thoughtful commentary and offer a wide variety of different viewpoints.

Especially if they watch certain extremely ideological news sources, for example, Fox News, Americans can be surprisingly isolated from consensus views in the rest of the nation or the world.

Nov 19, 2012 4:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@USARealist, Scott Brown did not get elected because he ‘voted liberal’ (I am not going to get into why this is not true), but instead he got voted out because he was facing a strong candidate who may in fact ‘vote liberal’. I would propose that a bigger reason as to why he lost was his reliance on the old hateful attack strategies of the right in his assault on Ms. Warren’s integrity over the whole Native American thing.

And to your assertion of the ‘fiscally liberal Democratic party’, can you please qualify your comment with the consideration that in the last 30+ years the only Presidents to actually reduce deficits over the course of their terms was Obama and Clinton, two Democrats? Funny fact for you, Obama, despite all the cries from the right about him promoting runaway deficits, has reduced the deficit by more than ANY other President in American history in four years.

Nov 19, 2012 5:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USARealist wrote:

@USAPrag….Your posts seem to get more blatantly partisan as time goes buy. To ignore the influence of congress in the debt/deficit argument is pure ignorance (at best, since I believe you do it intentionally). Finally, to say that the Obama admin has reduced the deficit (or debt for that matter) is beyond ridiculous (See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt). Have you gone insane?

Nov 20, 2012 8:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
USARealist wrote:

@USAprag…follow up for your education (badly needed). From this article (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesglassman/2012/07/11/the-facts-about-budget-deficits-how-the-presidents-truly-rank/)

“As for spending itself, during the George W. Bush years (2001-08), federal outlays averaged 19.6 percent of GDP, a little less than during the Clinton years (1993-2000), at 19.8% and far below Reagan, whose outlays never dropped below 21 percent of GDP in any year and averaged 22.4%. Even factoring in the TARP year (2009), Bush’s average outlays as a proportion of the economy was 20.3 percent – far below Reagan and only a half-point below Clinton. As for Obama, even excluding 2009, his spending has averaged 24.1 percent of GDP – the highest level for any three years since World War II.

Americans can judge for themselves whether deficits are “enormous”– but only if they have the facts. In this case, there is no denying the order in which the last five presidents rank on the basis of deficits: Clinton, Bush 43, Bush 41 and Reagan in a virtual tie, and Obama.”

Before you cry foul, I understand Forbes leans right, but math (deb-to-GDP) is non-partisan.

Nov 20, 2012 8:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
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