Vatican disciplines Austrian dissident priest

Ladies and gentlemen, neither the Vatican, nor Pope Benedict, are conservatives, which was proven when the Marxist-oriented, liberation theologist Bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller was appointed last summer to head up the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the purpose for the appointment to plug the damaging leaks from the Vatican. This is the man that the supposedly “conservative” Pope Benedict knows he can trust 100% to prevent any more embarrassing leaks from the Vatican…a Marxist-oriented, liberation theology enthusiast. Does this make sense to you?

We now have proof that the current “power struggle” within the Vatican has nothing to do with a clash of “conservative clerics” vs. “liberal clerics”.

So what is the power struggle all about? More insidious than you could guess. Remember how Stalin infiltrated the Russian Orthodox Church? Well, guess what? Those agents were never removed after the “collapse” of the USSR! Oh, you didn’t know that? Well, you would if you had paid more attention to the inexplicable things taking place within the “former” USSR these past 21 years. Well, so much for split milk, suffice to say that the Vatican was also infiltrated by Moscow by the late 1950s, which is why the Vatican refused to release the Third Secret of Fatima in 1960 because of the inconvenient part of the “secret” which mentioned the infiltration of the Vatican by “Satanic” forces (read: Communist forces). Well, the Communists in the Vatican weren’t going to release such a document, it might have led to an unwelcome closer inspection of the Vatican by outside sources.

Now you also know who set in place the policy of passing onto other parishes priests who molest children, instead of assigning those priests to duties not involving children. It should have been obvious to us all that only nonbelievers inside the Vatican would tolerate such a policy when such a policy was an assured one-way ticked to Hell if believers were in control of the Vatican. Moscow’s plan is not to destroy the Catholic Church, but weaken and control it.

Correction to my comment above: should read:

Well, so much for spilt milk,

This whole idea of harping on obedience, especially to someone else’s conscience, is one sure way of wrecking a person’s belief in anything spiritual or religious. Basically, the Vatican Catholic Cult’s hierarchs say, “do it our way or the hyway.” This is their idea of formation of conscience. This whole idea of papal infallibility is a hoax based on Italian political metrics of the late 1800s. Jesus never committed “infallibility” to Peter or the Apostles. What they didn’t have, they could not give. “Nemo dat, quod non habet.” The Ante-Nicene Fathers never heard of “The Keys.” Early Church apologists played fast and loose with the gospels and Paul’s Epistles in order to meet contingencies of their times and communities. Celsus, a bishop in 170 A.D., roundly called out Christian scribes because of their rewriting of the gospels and epistles and was condemned as a heretic for his effort. The so-called New Testament Scriptures were not codified until the 4th Century. An awful lot of editing and rewriting took place between 70 A.D., date of the Markan composition and the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. The entire 21st chapter of the Johannine gospel is an interpolation by another hand thought to lend Dominical credence to Roman hegemony over other competing ancient Sees like Antioch, Corinth, Alexandria. Continued speculation in high Christological soteriology has been going on for millennia in all Christian communities. Unfortunately, Catholics have been faced with a siege mentality on the part of popes and hierarchs because of the Protestant Reformation. As a result, all further theological study has been curtailed by the Vatican. The only authorized material allowed is the recirculation of medieval myths, fairy tales and fables canonized as dogmas, papal pieties and hierarchical diktats. Unless, and until the ethos of the Cult’s leadership undergoes a conversion, it will have forfeited its title to and recognition as Church leaders.

Faithful Catholics understand that they must respect the teaching authority of their Bishops.

I am very disappointed that the great REUTERS doesnt report acurately.
Our movement is NOT a group called “Call to Disobedience”. Our group is calles “Priests’- Initiative”!! We did though write a text called “Call to disobedience” more than a year ago.
The wording: “The Catholic Church does not allow priests to marry” is also very inexact. In the eastern part of the Catholic church married clergy is the rule. There are also some ex-anglican married priests who serve in the roman catholic church since leaving the anglicans.
Canon law § 373(for the eastern part of the roman catholic church) passed by John-Paul II says: “The celibacy of the clergy, elected for the kingdom of God and very adequate for the priesthood in the best tradition of the universal Church throughout, should stand in high esteem. Exactly the same is to be held in honor of the status of those living in married clergy, confirmed by the practice of the early Church and the Eastern Churches.”

I regret that this heretic wasn’t excommunicated. His dissent from Catholic doctrine is reason enough but the people he is leading down the path of destruction won’t stop until he is completely discredited by the Church.

thk,

I didn’t bother to read all of your post…I suggest you log onto atheists R us where you will find solace in like company.

So the Catholic hierarchy is attempting to push doctrine back to the days of the first millennium BCE?

Makes Islam look positively modern!

Surely the Anglican Church must have an outreach to disaffected Catholics such as this man. He can a church without celibacy and which accepts female priests and yet still have all the smells and bells of his original Church.

Father Burgeois is guilty of false advertising if he continues to stay in a Church whose tenets and disciplines he finds unacceptable.

@DeanMJackson – You are still on this rant about the Moscow controlled papacy? Are you or were you ever a Roman Catholic? And don’t lie to save your theory.

What is so astounding about the Third Secret? Why don’t you find a copy and print it here so we can see what you’re talking about? It used to be online on the Vatican site.

And I still can’t understand what all that alleged infiltration was supposed to have accomplished for secret Moscow agents. I will probably never set foot inside a Catholic Church again because the reasons for doing so now are nill. But that has more to do with the fact that for over 50 years, church did not provide a “community” of the faithful but was more a venue for seeing and being seen by a lot of status seeking frauds. Or they went out of fear they would go to hell without it. And they are not the only church, or even the only organization, that benefits from terror in the name of God. The Government likes to talk like that too from time to time. I can find spiritual uplift in my own bookcase without the costs of maintaining the facilities, as pretty as some of them are.

Everything in this country boils down to two things: markets and marketability. All one has to do anymore is be a consumer – even at church. And don’t forget – the Godfather wants his take. He’s the most superstitious and ruthless of fear sucking and fear inspiring, superstitious and ruthless men. He’s only smarter and more ruthless than most of his minions. He goes to college now and his kids live relatively legitimate lives, so I have heard. The kids just don’t like to say where Daddy got his millions. Sort of like the Kennedy’s actually. And that tie-in may be all you really have to know about what makes the Vatican “tick”.

The Vatican is very old and has a different take on the “laws of the land(s)”. They’ve seen millions of them and they probably have copies of most of them in that enormous library they maintain. Rather like the Israelis actually. They are all dinosaurs but with very large brains and gruesomely long memories.

I really wish Martha could have at them.

Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn – That man may be a descendant of the Prince Bishop that employed Mozart in Salzburg? Maybe he’s no relation? Got an Alamac de Gotha handy? The Schoenborns once owned a sizable part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, if I have the spelling right?

DeanMjackson – when you take into account the former and living princes, dethroned autocrats, aristocrats and other well born and still very wealthy people who cling tenaciously to the Catholic Church, your very baroque theories about past(?) communist influence on the Vatican are ludicrous. What on earth could communists have said to these former masters and landlords of Europe that could have possibly charmed the messages out of them you claim Moscow wanted to hear, or not hear?