Vietnam condemns China's sea claims as "serious violation"

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Curmudgeon43 wrote:

Good ole Obama and his foreign policy of apology and grovel.

India knows it is not going to get help from the United States.

Dec 03, 2012 11:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Batman_is_mad wrote:

Curmudgeon43 why should the US be the policeman for the world. Enough is enough let the Asian countries battle it out for themselves. India alone has over 1 billion people, nuclear weapons and collectively with other nations they have the means to defend their interests and territorial waters.

Dec 03, 2012 11:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Free_Pacific wrote:

@Batman_is_mad

The people Obama is letting down are allies of the US. India is a non ally doing it anyway. Obama is like Neville Chamberlain, all apologies and sweet kisses while encouraging maniac states to steal rob and plunder others. If the Americans dont care for their allies, then why do they keep expecting us to bleed with them? While threatening repercussions if we dont (My country has been on the recieving end of this more than once in the last two decades). Even though I come from a small country, we honour our commitments. So it’s natural that we expect the US to do the same.

Dec 04, 2012 12:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
DeSwiss wrote:

The testosterone is damn high!!!
{forgive my impertinence Mr. McMillan} :-/

Dec 04, 2012 12:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
ChAliGhafoor wrote:

US should concentrate on their own matters as US should think about how to reduce budget deficits that has approached 3 trillion $ but not to advocate chinese,indian or israel,iran matters.

Dec 04, 2012 12:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
paddypak wrote:

Wow, India becomes much stronger. People should think about which is stronger between india and china in asia. Perhaps, military power in india is understimated. It enters south china sea to show its power. Have people remembered that china entered indian ocean to show strength before? It is rare. India should focus on helping the poor and minimizing the poverty gap instead of threatening china to cause unnecessary crisis.

Dec 04, 2012 2:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
Foxdrake_360 wrote:

Heck, if the Indians or Chinese or whomever give us 2-3 billion dollars, I’m all for policing whatever.

Dec 04, 2012 2:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
FreedomFries wrote:

Don’t be so sure, Chinese commenters. The US and India are involved in joint ventures. Be afraid, be very afraid.

Dec 04, 2012 3:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
CNSG wrote:

@FreedomFries,
I laughed, I laughed very very hard.

Dec 04, 2012 4:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
mojjo25 wrote:

@Batman_is_mad wrote:
“Curmudgeon43 why should the US be the policeman for the world”
One reason might be because Japan, Phillp, the US are allies and have military pact? And another reason being the US is sitting in UNSC? Thrid reason being, if Japan and phillipines are challenged and Americans cant do a bit then i am sure the reputation of Americans will be hailed forever as a sissy than a bold nation who is a peacemaker?
many more reasons… like Americans dont want Cubian missle crises in its backyard except this time it will be China and Venezuela?

Dec 04, 2012 4:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
mojjo25 wrote:

@ paddypak – Do you think picutres of indian published makes them poor and chinese banning poverty pictures makes them super power and all taken care off?
Its total collateral damage which both india and china understand.. besides india is not going back and playing games like chinese do in nepal, arming pakistan, SLanakan army etc… you just might want to see around – a bully and a bad boy will only bully everyeone, whose turn next is a question.. let alone they bully India that remains seen… looks like trying to teach india for giving refuge to Dalai lama in 1962 hasnt worked well for chinese in terms of respect world over… :)

Dec 04, 2012 4:10am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

China has managed to alienate all it’s friends. The only support they have now is support they can buy from countries like Cambodia.

I really wonder what the Chinese are thinking. What do they gain from turning all their neighbours into enemies? This will end badly – for China.

Dec 04, 2012 6:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
Batman_is_mad wrote:

@ mojjo25 wrote:

… like Americans dont want Cubian missle crises in its backyard except this time it will be China and Venezuela?

Having nukes on Cuban soil or even Venezuela is obsolete. China can deploy boomers off our coast and they have ICBMs as well. If China threatens the US that is one thing but when you see other nations who have the means to defend themselves, we should stay out.

Also I might point out that the US made China by exporting all of our manufacturing there. Tell me why we were so stupid to allow that? They are rapidly becoming a super power because of it and we are becoming less significant. Also, they own quit a bit of our debt and there is other reasons why the US should stay out. We never had leverage against the Chinese because the United States in their stupidity squandered it to the Chinese.

Dec 04, 2012 7:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
Mikecimerian wrote:

If you take a look at India’s current order for F-35s, you will notice that the US are progressively adopting India as a new military partner in the region.

The JSF concept is based on allied force interoperability. These orders were announced one week after Obama’s official visit to India.

Connect the dots.

Dec 04, 2012 8:09am EST  --  Report as abuse
Mikecimerian wrote:

If you take a look at India’s current order for F-35s, you will notice that the US are progressively adopting India as a new military partner in the region.

The JSF concept is based on allied force interoperability. These orders were announced one week after Obama’s official visit to India.

Connect the dots.

Dec 04, 2012 8:09am EST  --  Report as abuse
prastagus wrote:

since when did communist Vietnam become USA’s ally?

Dec 04, 2012 12:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NeoHermes wrote:

around 1995

Dec 04, 2012 1:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NeoHermes wrote:

@prastagus during President Bush Jr

Dec 04, 2012 1:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Vuenbelvue wrote:

USA DOD is cleaning up Agent Orange Dioxin sites now around old Air Forces bases near Da Nang in hopes to gain a long term lease of the deep port at Cam Rang Bay. The expected 4 year clean-up at 28 hot spots could cost $450 million USD. page 14 October 2012 VFW Complaining will do no good. If Washington wants another war they will find one.

Dec 04, 2012 2:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mgunn wrote:

All this testosterone pales in comparison to the testosterone that existed in the lead up to the Iraq invasion due to WMDs. Let’s have all parties including the author and commentators calm down. Even when they do have conflicts its appears to be with water canons lately. Contrast this with the billions of bombs and bullets and the 600,000+ murdered in Iraq, a country that didn’t even have anything to do with 911.

Dec 04, 2012 3:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Gregory1 wrote:

China pulls this stunt every post presidential election. The last time the Chinese decided to screw with a United States SWATH research vessel.Just remind China that the joint defence pact they signed with Iran annexing the Iranian oil fields untill 2024, if found out by the Iranian population who has no free media, there wll be a civil insurection the Mullah’s cannot control and China’s weak grasp on their own civililian unrest could likley cause them a civil war.

Dec 04, 2012 4:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fromthecenter wrote:

Since china is bent on alienating all of it’s neighbors let all the neighbors get together and handle the situation. We can always sell them all military equipment… Thats more then likely the goal to help stoke the fire of the situation anyway. Lets just keep our noses out of it for once.

Dec 04, 2012 4:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse

When is U.S. going to call Communist Vietnam on what Kissinger called its persistent illegal occupation of part of Cambodia from Vietnam’s invasion of Cambodia in 1979? Vietnam is learning how to milk fake guilt trips from American diplomats, like Japan and other traditionally predatory countries are skillful experts at. All they have to do is to plug into some fears, or bias, or political rhetoric that fits into the internal politics of Americans, and they are ready to pocket billions of effective aid, in one form or another.

From the mouths of Vietnamese Americans who visit Vietnam nowadays, all their long lost relatives in Vietnam want is money money money. Apparently they are learning from their Communist Government.

Dec 04, 2012 5:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jo5319 wrote:

Japan’s toxic example, and our spineless American Government’s support of the example of honoring ex-Nazi allies, class I war criminals, are causing horribly bad influence in Asia. That’s what you expert when America suppresses all its own citizens’ free speech rights by defaming them as not being spontaneous opinions based on prudent, well informed body of knowledge of Asian history.

Japan led Asia by selling land it doesn’t own.

Now Vietnam, of course, see that Japan got literally away with murders of 50 millions human beings scotch free, start drilling in land that they don’t own, or at least the sovereignty of the land is clearly disputed. Of course they follow the bad boy’s example, as long as they could get away with it, like Vietnam is getting away with continual occupation and its illegal rule over Cambodians on land they invaded in 1970s, when they tried to catch the wind of sending American troops out of Indo-China.

Thanks Japan for your unremitting predatory example, and
devious distortion of history based on plugging into the fears, and biases and bigotry about Asians, and on the ignorance of most westerners on Asian history!

Dec 04, 2012 7:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Communist disinformation, where opposition between Communist nations is contrived for the attainment of strategic gains against the West.

Not unlike the fake Sino/Soviet split of 1960-1989. The purpose of that deception allowed one side to play off against the other with the West, thereby gaining political/economic advantages from the West, which neither Communist giant could have achieved if it was believed they were united. Clever, huh?

Dec 04, 2012 7:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Pterosaur wrote:

It’s time that Vietnam recognizes the situation and graciously leaves the Chinese islands quietly. I have to praise the Caucasians, like the Brits, for the ability to evaluate the situation: When they saw they couldn’t keep the invaded land anymore, they just left, even sometimes with celebration.

Dec 04, 2012 9:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wolverine2012 wrote:

lot of “wolf” tickets being pushed by arm chair generals about the US getting involved; you novices need to crawl beck under your rocks.

Dec 05, 2012 3:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
Montpessat wrote:

Batman_is_mad wrote: “Also I might point out that the US made China by exporting all of our manufacturing there. Tell me why we were so stupid to allow that?”
Because you have greedy CEO morons seeking low cost. The price to pay for these textbook fixed morons is now coming to light.

mojjo25 wrote: “besides India is not going back and playing games like Chinese do in Nepal, arming Pakistan, SLanakan army etc… you just might want to see around – a bully and a bad boy will only bully everyeone,”

It is quite appalling the conscienceless arming of Pakistan. China is bullying all its neighbors instead of contributing to the peace and prosperity of the region. Greed has taken over.

Dec 05, 2012 5:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
Janeallen wrote:

@Abu:
Stop the defamation.

Your fabrication of some 50 cent party is a trick to distract from your whitewashing of selective illegal occupation, crimes against humanity of some country, but not of others.

I don’t know anybody from whatever party. I am very proud that my opinion cannot be influenced by any authority, by lure, or pressure, nor by defamatory statements that amount to harassment like yours.

Countries occupy ethnic groups of another country. The other country has no power to fight back. Then countries occupy disputed land, and cleverly “bribed” India to get involved by offering financial gains of operating the natural resource. Such an action has no moral basis.

It’s all greed.
You use a blind eye on certain greed, but defend the senseless invasion and killing of 50+millions non-Japanese Asians.

You have no moral basis, only defamation, distortion of history, distortion of facts, and putting words into others mouth, and reckless disregard of basic civil rights of human beings to speak for themselves.

The

Dec 05, 2012 9:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Pterosaur wrote:

China simply exercises its soverign rights.

Personally, I think China has not displayed the proper resolve, even though China got it. China should leran from Russia on this.

Dec 05, 2012 11:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Janeallen wrote:

@Abu:
The PRK is a puppet government set up by Vietnam while Vietnam invaded Cambodia. The trick comes right out of the chapter of the Japanese strategy, “how to invade, massacre, commit crimes against humanity while maintaining high sounding, fake goals to fool the world, especially part of the world who are ignorant about the local circumstances.”.

During the Vietnam-Cambodia conflict, when Vietnam invaded Cambodia, the United Nations recognized the Democratic Kupuchea, and not the PRK because the PRK was a puppet government set up with the SOLE goal of whitewashing Vietnamese war crimes, and predatory intention.

This is right out of the book of Japan’s setting up of Machukuo, which is a puppet government, a fake front to cover up horrible organized rapes, torture, and predatory expansion attempts in all around the Pacific. That effort culminated in the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

To use the puppet government’s fake claim is ridiculous because it egregiously violates the general principle of respecting the local people’s wishes to be self-governed.

There was no voluntary agreement. Vietnam was forced to stop its predatory invasion, according to Kissinger, because China taught Vietnam a lesson
(1) demonstrating to Vietnam that the Soviet Union was not to be trusted to use troops to help any Indo-Chinese country,
only to push Vietnam to expand in Indo-China, as part of the expansion of the Communist blog.

Kissinger made that very clear in the book. Hence, the name “touching the buttocks of the Tiger” in his book, “On China”. The tiger referred to the Soviet Union.

If Reuters censor this material that Harvard students have to read when studying modern history, and allow @Abu’s egregious defamatory statements of American voice of conscience, out of no affiliation of any party, any political organization, any religious or ethnic bias, then Reuters has lost any credibility as an objective news agency. Reuters has become the white-washer of war crimes, and collaborator or suppression historical truths!

Reuters will go down history with infamy if this kind of deliberate censoring of truth is allowed, and blatant defamatory statements are allowed to vilify completely independent voices.

Dec 05, 2012 11:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PPlainTTruth wrote:

For Abu to talk about the PRK as if it represented the will of Cambodians, is like Hitler talking about Jewish individuals who were used by the Nazis to identify who and where the Jews were so that they could be sent to the concentration camps, and thus, invoke justification that the Jewish holocaust was justified by puppet Jewish leaders’ collaboration in the invasion.

Abu, you Nazi-like logic is getting more and more patent. Your war criminal worshiper tail is showing behind your back legs.

Dec 05, 2012 11:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse

@ABU:
I have absolutely No connection with the PRC.
I speak from my conscience.

Your defamatory post needs to be censored because it violates

Or else, give me your name, and let all the defamed, and a long list of Americans have complained about it — let all those defamed see you in court and expose your hypocrisy, and guileful and deliberate defamatory tactic, to distract from historical truths and to whitewash crimes against humanity, and rewrite history of how people fight for their rights to be heard and for self-determination.

Dec 06, 2012 12:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
jo5319 wrote:

When Afro-americans and Asian Americans were lynched under the Jim Crow laws, and immediately after the Chinese Exclusion Act, none of the killers were ever tried as murderers. According to official American courts, those who committed the lynching, torturing prior to the killing were not murderers.

However, by objective morality standard of almost any reasonable community, of any age, were they murderers? Of course, yes.

Vietnam illegally occupied, and by brute force, conquered and ruled.

Now, it is doing the same thing. Yet, it is telling the world that China, which exercised restraint according to Kissinger’s account, and withdrew back to the original border after Vietnam stopped invading Cambodia further, is demonized.

You are the ultimate enemy of world peace, and anybody who values that history be told in a straightforward manner, without whitewashing — so that the world will learn the lesson of appeasing invasive activities like those of Japan and Vietnam.

The proof is in the pudding, not in this distorted arguments, and misuse of puppet government, fanning of fear.
Ask: is Cambodia an ally of China, or of Vietnam? Why?
Cambodians remember and know that Deng, according to Kissinger, defended them, and avoided being overrun by the ambitious invasion by Vietnam.

If Vietnam truly invaded Cambodia to help Cambodians, like your flagrant lies purport, why is Cambodia a staunch ally of China?

All the fake fear mongering Vietnam does is for 2 reasons:
It has learned how to milk the internal dissension of American politics over Vietnam. The Pentagon papers, etc etc, do not change the fact that Vietnam was a truly Communist Country under the strong influence of the Soviet Union which was goading Vietnam to invade Cambodia, as part of the spread of the communist revolution.

China, under Mao, used to be ideologically Communist; however, under Deng, in late 1970s, China was pragmatic and not ideologically Communist at all. The kind of McCarthyism and red scare that you have been promoting on Reuters is exposed as absolutely hypocritical, because the Vietnam invasion of Cambodia in the 1970s, arose from a purely Communist, Marxist belief, and world view. At least, that was the pretext of Vietnam, at that time.

So your hypocrisy is utterly exposed by your defense of a military invasion that was driven by pure Communist ideology, while, at the same time, you are fanning red scare about China, to cover up the 50+ millions Asians massacred brutally by Japanese militaristic leaders, that you support the worshiping of, in recent months in Japan.

You are actively covering up Japanese Nazi ties, and its current worshiping and invoking of Nazi originated war activities.

You are promoting neo-Nazi activities, with false defamatory statements of all those who are clear minded enough to see through your guile.

Dec 06, 2012 12:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

Janeallen wrote:
“Your fabrication of some 50 cent party is a trick to distract”

Do you know how to use Google? The 50 Cent Party is real, confirmed by your leaders, and (in)famous. I guess you would just rather pretend it ain’t so rather than admit to being a part of it.

Janeallen wrote:
“The PRK is a puppet government set up by Vietnam while Vietnam invaded Cambodia.”

Who cares what you Chinese think? The PRK was welcomed and supported by Cambodians.

Ask somebody to Google this for you: “The installation by the Vietnamese of a new regime in Phnom Penh was welcomed by almost the entire population, weary of the killing and destruction wrought by the Khmer Rouge” (‘Religion in Kampuchea’, p169).

Janeallen wrote:
“During the Vietnam-Cambodia conflict, when Vietnam invaded Cambodia, the United Nations recognized the Democratic Kupuchea, and not the PRK”

If you did a little bit of fact checking (although I understand why you don’t) you would would find that 29 counties recognised PRK as legitimate.

I have asked you this before, but you evaded it: do you agree with your country supporting the brutal Pol Pot regime? A simple yes or no will do.

Janeallen wrote:
“There was no voluntary agreement. Vietnam was forced to stop its predatory invasion, according to Kissinger, because China taught Vietnam a lesson”

First, the Chinese attempt to attack Vietnam was defeated. How, exactly, is a defeat China teaching Vietnam a lesson?

Second, the Cambodians – even the current Hun Sen government – confirm that the agreement was voluntary.

You should get over your obsession with Kissinger and read some history instead. Or read Christopher Hitchens’ ‘The Trial of Henry Kissinger’, where he makes a case for Kissinger being tried as a war criminal for his role in the illegal carpet bombing of Cambodia by the USA, which killed 500,000 Cambodians directly and led to the rise of Pol Pot.

Maybe then you would learn how intensely Kissinger hates the Vietnamese (which is why you admire him so much…), which is why he supported Pol Pot.

Dec 06, 2012 5:13am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

It is really quite funny, watching all the 50 Centers posting in unison, one after the other, and all saying “Kissinger said Vietnam blah blah blah”

You guys could try to be a bit more subtle, instead of all posting the same comments at the same time…

jo5319 wrote:
“Ask: is Cambodia an ally of China, or of Vietnam? Why?
Cambodians remember and know that Deng, according to Kissinger, defended them, and avoided being overrun by the ambitious invasion by Vietnam.

If Vietnam truly invaded Cambodia to help Cambodians, like your flagrant lies purport, why is Cambodia a staunch ally of China?”

Well done – you got the word “Kissinger” in there. 50 cents well earned!

The answer is simple: money. We all know that. The only ‘friends’ China has are the ones it can buy, including the Cambodian government.

Dec 06, 2012 5:22am EST  --  Report as abuse

Let’s not be distracted from the topic of this news.

Vietnam refused to talk with China one on one, honorably
even though China had produced maps that the area was historically Chinese.

Instead, Vietnam learned from Japan to conduct business as if there is no dispute.

More guileful, more Machiavellian than Japan, Vietnam contracted with India so as to bribe India to get involved for a piece of the mineral interest that India does not deserve. The territory is disputed; if the land does not belong to Vietnam, then India has no claim at all, because it has no business to be in the South China Sea. It is not part of India’s border. Rather, India is making the excuse to become expansionist– that’s hardly honorable.

Yet, Vietnam has the gall to make accusations. And Reuters put the hypocritic accusation as its headline— hardly fair.

All countries, if reasonable, should be honorable enough to discuss one on one with its neighbor; if it doesn’t, an unilaterally take another’s land and make contract with another country, clearly with the plan to drag India into a military standoff — that’s warmongering.

When Daniel Ellesberg released the Pentagon papers, he believed honestly that Vietnam merely wanted to be independent, not ruled by France, not ruled by Japan. However, immediately after Americans withdrew, Vietnam invaded Cambodia. To this date, Cambodians are staunch allies of China’s because China sent troops to stop Vietnam from overrunning the entire Cambodia, which would have happened had China lent a helping hand. Yet, Japanese NHK Kathy Kobayashi falsely, egregiously distorted and left out the history documented clearly by Henry Kissinger, in his book, On China, and defamed Cambodia by falsely accusing that Cambodia’s alliance with China was out of gratefulness for China’s help to prevent Vietnam aggression and expansionist move.

If Hilary Clinton disregards his predecessor, Henry Kissinger’s documentation, and treats Vietnam as if it had never been an expansionist in the region, that Hilary and Barak will go done in infamy in history, in their respective Secretary of State and Presidential legacy.

Hilary should understand that her constant invoking of so called “laws” is repulsive to hundreds of millions of Asians who suffered under predatory laws that sided with drug lord who forced opium into China by “laws”, who took land and right of self rule, in a manner completely contradictory to the spirit of the American Constitution and its proclamation of every human to pursue freedom and happiness, and that there should be no taxation without representation. Yet, the United States of America rules over Chinese Americans for over a century without representation. Congress has only recently apologized for the infamous law, the Chinese Exclusion Act. Yet, Hilary and Barak continue to invoke laws, in the same vein and spirit as under the discriminatory Chinese Exclusion Act, to support acts of aggression, and expansion into land that has been historically Chinese.

The United States is going down in infamy, by pretending to be presiding in peace. Rather, what the United States clearly is doing is to offer the bribe of land that does not belong to countries which are willing to “ally” with the United States, in return for taking territories that are historically Chinese.

Hilary: I voted for you. I am grossly disppointed in you, particularly in your goading of India to barge into South CHina Sea. You are destabling Asia with the pretext of “pivot”. The geo-political theories of Pivoting, was used by Hitler Nazi, to justify Lebensraum. Haushofer, the Nazi professor of geopolitically, close ally of Hess, personally trained Japanese militarists and indoctrinated them into the theories that caused over 20+ millions Chinese to be massacred by the Japanese. That move was supported by the United States, according to James Bradley; if not for Pearl Harbor, United States would not have lifted a little finger over the immense atrocities, horrific crimes against humanity committed against the Chinese people over almost a century. All that history was covered up, even to CHinese Americans like us. But no more. The cat is out of the bag. YEt, Hilary and Barak still act as if they have the moral ground to continue provoke China by supporting India to go into S. China Sea, over undisputed territory.

Shame on India. Ghandi would have been furious over what India is doing now, given his peaceful and non-violent stance. Ghandi must be rolling in his grave RIGHT THIS MOMENT.

Dec 07, 2012 4:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Hunu:
You sound like a Japanese Nazi war criminal worshipper, who loves war.

You should be censored for provoking war.

Dec 07, 2012 4:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PPlainTTruth wrote:

In yesterday’s interview of Barak Obama by Ms. Goldman, shown on Charlie Rose, Barry said that a number of Asian countries want the United States to be the leader there if only the U.S. can get its economy on track.

Of course, these countries want land that don’t belong to them, but to China, and love for United States to bribe them with it. They learn from how the egregious Japanese war criminals got away with murdering over 20 + million innocent Chinese civilians, raping, looting, destroying innocent civilians’ homes, and still get the Diaoyu island after being defeated. WORSE, the United States HELP JAPAN FABRICATE THE PROPAGANDA THAT THE RAGE AND ANGER OF OVER 50+MILLION DEAD ASIAN SOULS AND THEIR DESCENDENTS WERE MANUFACTURED BY THE CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT, AND ALL THE VOICE OF CONSCIENCE OF CLEAR-MINDED AMERICANS, MANY OF WHOM VOTED FOR YOU, WERE SOMEHOW MADE BELIEF TO BE PAID BY CHINA!!!!! SUCH DISGRACE IS THE AMERICAN PRESS, MANY DEEPLY ENTRENCHED WITH THE AMERICAN OFFICIAL FOREIGN POLICY ADVISORS — THESE ARE SYSTEMATIC SCAPEGOATING THAT AMERICA HAS BEEN GUILTY OF, AFTER EVERY RECESSION. THIS ONE IS MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN EVER, THANKS TO YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS, CONSISTENTLY BLAMING CHINA FOR MANY ECONOMIC WOES, ON WHICH YOU MANAGED POORLY.

These smaller Asian countries plug right into the demonizing China-bashing, racist rhetoric that Americans love and FABRICATED.

ALL THE MAJOR AMERICAN MEDIA ILLEGALLY AND UNCONSTITUTIONALLY CENSOR AND SHUT UP ALL THE VOICE OF REASON THAT POINT OUT THE FALSITY, THE GUILE, AND THE TRUE GOALS OF THE DEMONIZATION. And OBAMA, DID NOTHING TO CORRECT FALSITY THAT YOU WELL KNOW, JUST LIKE IKE DID NOT LIFT A LITTLE FINGER, SEEING CHINESE IN INDONESIA GETTING PERSECUTED FOR WHAT IKE HIMSELF CALLS AN IMMORAL ACT!!!!!

Americans love the lies because they dump all their own contribution towards the 2008 economic crisis and their squandering during Iraq war on this concerted venting of bigotry, vile venom on the Chinese, without whom we could not have rescued the banks, and most Americans’ bank and retirement accounts. Without the loans from China, the United States’ debt rating would have gone down quickly, and our interest rate risen drastically. Our debt would have ballooned out of control; our recession would NOT HAVE ENDED YET. Yet, under your leadership, your government embarks on a systematic approach to control China, ONLY WITH FACADE THAT YOU ARE NOT. YET, YOUR ADVISORS, your aides, your media outlet, exposes your devious guile, with the false claim of high sounding words and deplorable euphemism.

Barak: You have been fanning enough xenophobic scapegoating.

STOP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY YOURSELF, AS AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL AMERICANS TO START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR EACH OF THEM. THAT IS THE ONLY HONORABLE OPTION FOR OUR MORAL REPUTATION AND FUTURE. OUR HORRENDOUS ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHINA IS SHAPING TO BE AND ECONOMIC IRAQ — ATROCIOUS!

Barak is not the worst scapegoating, but, even though I voted for you as the lesser evil, you fanned racism, and bigotry against China and Asians. Every day, bullying of Chinese and other Asian Americans are worsening, escalating in our country to the point it becomes an epidemic
because you unfairly pointed to them instead of your failure to reform and regulate American crooks who used legal loopholes to sneak out billions and billions while leaving ordinary Americans on a lurch.

You scapegoated Asians.

Asian Americans, every day, get their creative ideas stolen, but the American thieves believe that they will not get fair trials in court because you, of all people lied and vilified and put down the creativity of Asians, claiming egregiously that your Administration had won every WTO lawsuit, implying intellectual property lawsuit. Quite the contrary, Asians, Asian Americans deserve to stand up for much looting of their civil rights, their credit due, compensation for racist unfair treatment at Angel Island. Instead of condemning the racism at Angel Island, you created a commemoration of the racist crimes of unlawful deprivation of freedom and lives of many Chinese Americans. You should apologize and start shaping up and correcting your racism against Chinese Americans!

You lied to the American people. In fact, Asian, Asian Americans have sued American, even supposedly respected large companies suppliers in American courts and won cases for American crooks ripping off Asians.

SHAME ON YOU. Did you Indonesian upbringing impart you with special discriminatory sentiments for innocent Chinese?

Official, declassified information (after the standard 50 years) has revealed that Eisenhower lied to the American public that overthrowing a foreign regime is immoral, while ordering the CIA to overthrow the Indonesian Government, pretending to be Taiwans. When the plot failed, the Indonesian Government knew the culprit was the United States, but did not expose it. Instead, a wave of fire burnt through Chinese Christian Churches in Indonesia. Innocent small business owners of Chinese heritage lost all their money, their business because their property was completely taken away from them. Celebration of Chinese New Year was banned. You were in Indonesian not longer after the failed American coup and the DELIBERATE scapegoating by Eisenhower’s administration. Did you, OBama, believe in all the horrific, immoral scapegoating by the Indonesian Government as well as the American Government.

What is heinous and grossly immoral is that BOTH Ike and the Indonesian Government, according to recently declassified material, (readily available in any biography of Ike), KNOW THAT THE CHINESE IN INDONESIA WERE SCAPEGOATS. YET THEY CONTINUED TO ALLOW THE PERSECUTION TO BURN, TO INFLICT CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, JUST LIKE THE CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT OF AMERICA. SHAME ON YOU BARAK OBAMA, FOR LYING TO GAIN OUR VOTES, YET CONTINUE TO POINT YOUR FINGERS AT ASIANS, PASSING THE BLAME THAT YOU, AS THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT, AS THE DUTY TO CALL UPON AMERICANS TO STAND TALL, BE HONEST, AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, AND STOP SCAPEGOATING. BUT YOU WON’T!!!!! Despite many lost opportunities in the past 4 years, which would have made America more honest, stronger from the core moral values, to gain respect not because we give bribes of other countries’ land to smaller countries who could not have invaded or expanded or taken unlawfully ON THEIR OWN, however Machiavellian they are, like Vietnam is doing now.

Americans are resourceful enough; we don’t have to lie.

Yet, Barry, you chose to lead Americans to lie to themselves,
and cover up with these geo-political theories(read the book Revenge of Geography for a classic history of how Hitler, and the Japanese had rationalized their expansionist theories and war criminals by the excuse of geography. The author said that one does not have to use these theories in Hitler’s vein, but Barak Obama, invoking the Asian Monroe Doctrine, in the tradition of Custer who said that the only good Indian is a dead Indian=— that’s the Monroe Doctrine tradition you are using to control China, FIRST BY DEMONIZING CHINA WITH FABRICATED PROPAGANDA, LIES, SCAPEGGOATING, THEN BRIBES TO COUNTRY WITH HISTORICALLY CHINESE LAND.)

BARAK OBAMA: You CHOSE to lead Americans to lie to themselves that Goldman, and Lehman, and the big American banks’ subprime loans didn’t cause their economic woes, but China, who bailed America out by granting them loans that essentially bore zero interest(because Chinese RMB has appreciated 11% in the last 4 years alone, even more previous periods, and the loan is in American dollars which the U.S. print without reasonable increase of reserve to backup the money printing .)

Barak Obama: You can choose a legacy that is a disguised Chinese Exclusion Act promoter. You want their money, their talent, but not their voice of request for fair treatment, for keeping land that is historically theirs. Instead, you goad India to help Vietnam take Chinese land when India has NO PLACE, NO RIGHT, to invade S. China sea except for GREED GREED GREED. And they could not have made that decision without first getting Barak Obama’s nod.

Barak: you are straying very far from what you represent to the world and to your voters, like me. SHAME ON YOU.

STOP BRIBING ASIAN COUNTRIES WITH LAND THAT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO OWNERSHIP, TO FORCE THE DISGRACED AMERICAN IMAGE TO A FURTHER NEW LOW!

ALL THE CLASSIFIED MATERIAL WILL BE RELEASED IN 50 YEARS. You may not be alive then, but your legacy will stink when the world knows what hideously immoral, discriminatory, un-American goals and tricks underlie your first Presidential personal interview!

SHAME ON YOU BARAK OBAMA! STOP DRAGGING AMERICAN MORALS DOWN INTO THE GUTTERS!

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