Egypt's opposition rejects constitutional referendum

What took him so long?

Still going on with a referendum on his drafted constitution that is widly rejected. People have no trust that that the process would be fair and just. With 40% illiterate, results of referendums depend on bribes and corruption.

You know El-Baradei described this draft constitution as “miserable political folklore” and “destined to the trash pile of history”…

It is not enough to become the President or Prime Minister of a country because first of all the person must not be power hungry, be of sound brain, good character and must not be intellectually corrupt. and finally must be very sharp in uptake and intelligent.

Anyone who does no understand the reaction of his every act by his opponent and gives chance to demand his decree should not have ever issued such decree, because it makes own position controversial and weak. In addition, it definitely does not speak well of a seasoned politician.

It is advisable to solve the political issues by political dialogs not by confrontation. Why not discuss and come to an amicable solution.

It’s the Constitution stupid . . . The Decree was merely a warning that he was about to do something indefensible and would need those powers to make THAT happen.

Mursi failed once, big time.
Now pretty much everyone suspects him of being a potential despot, but he still has a second chance to prove he’s a statesman who works for the people of his county as a whole, and not just for the political party that brought him to power.
As for the Egyptians who rally for democracy, they know what expects them if they fail: An Iran style nightmare.

The average Egyptian is of the highest intelligence level of any Islamic nation. I had spoke with average sunnis, shias & copts. They want FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY. Notice there is a women sitting on the high council, without her face covered? Notice their demonstrations were peaceful? Mursi leans toward moderate, only to gain support from the opposition. The people know not to trust him.

Thank God for Islamic Extremism. Wait. I’ll explain. As much as the Islamist try to deny and deceive the world of their violent and jihadist agenda, they almost always screw up and tell everyone what they’ve been wanting all along, all due to their hotheadedness. This can be seen all throughout the Islamic World, where either Al khaida, Hamas, Iran, Hizbullah, will be unable to hold in their blood lusting desires and come clean and say it quite openly: Yes, my friends, we, the people of “the most peaceful religion in the world”, want to kill you. God Bless ‘em. You just gotta love these guys for their honesty. Put another way: Thank God for Islamic Extremism.

What else should be expected from an Islamist.. get foot in door then make it an Islamic nation, which will be interpreted any way the head cleric decides – could be peaceful (like Jordan) or crazy (like Iran).

Embracing Diversity? lol

Sounds like a tyranny of the majority in Egypt, much like the tyranny of the welfare/food stamp majority we have here in the states, where we have the self-righteous on food stamps sticking it to “the wealthy” (whoever that is).

Why should anybody who supports Obama have any problem with this whatsoever… Same thing different country.

The so-called opposition made of the sore losers of the democratic elections and of the minions of the toppled US backed dictatorship seems like an awful bunch of doomsayers and anti-democratic opportunists. Funny to see our ‘free press’ being their mouthpiece for all their intellectually dishonest drivels and allegations.

I dont understand. President Mursi has a majority (as slim as that of President Obama or Prime MInister Cameron). His party drafted a constitution (as the current co-allition draft Bills in Parliament). He is proposing a vote on said constitution. The people will decide on whether it is right or not. Surely even the Egyptians can understand that this is how democracy works?
PS Elibrachy I am afraid illiteracy does not take away the right to vote, at least not since the introduction of universal suffrage.

@retired_sandman, The difference being we have a Constitution. And woe is me, the tyranny of the poor in electing their own to rule us. Just like Venezuela? Except we have a millionaire President, along with nearly half of Congress.

@retired_sandman: The majority of the US population are not on welfare or food stamps, unless you count use of socialized roadways as ‘welfare’.

@Pedant:

49.1% of americans received public assistance in the first quarter of 2011.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jun2012/soci-j07.shtml

By now it’s a majority given the rate of increase.

I’m sorry, but you are simply WRONG.

@ConstFundie

I’m sorry, but it’s a perversion of democracy to have a majority on the public dole voting themselves benefits at the expense of the minority that actually produces. Perhaps we should consider denying voting rights to anybody of working age on public assistance. They can get their rights back when they are self-sufficient. We don’t let children vote. They are simply children of the nanny state in adult bodies.

It is a food stamp tyranny.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jun2012/soci-j07.shtml

49.1% on some form of public assistance in Q1 2011.

It’s a majority by now, considering the rate of increase this has had.

It is tyranny of majority as someone briliantly noticed, and nobody can prevent Egypt for becoming democracy with islamic characteristics.
It changes geopolitics of Middle East as relations with US will be much colder in the future. (the same process is going on everywhere in ME, bar absolutistic petro-monarchies like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Quatar etc. they will back US to the last heir of the throne alive).
Of course for Egyptians not everything will be easy. It will soon be discovered that their major islamic parties have ties with terrorist organizations Al-Quaida and Marsians. Additionally some WMD will be allegedly discovered. Both facts with big publicity, also here at Reuters, just wait a few months.

God forbid that the referendum goes ahead. It will be mayhem for sure.
Islamic groups like the Muslim brotherhood will be a dangerous move against a democratic society. They live in the stone age and will pass Sharia law!

THE CHAIR CHANGES PEOPLE (LOOK AT THE FIRST PICTURE).

The root of all evil is not money: it is the lust for power over others.

Democracy doesn’t mean that a 51% majority can impose it’s religious beliefs on the other 49%. The founders of this country were as afraid of the “tyranny of the majority” as of any other kind of tyranny. That is why we have a constitution that required a super majority to ratify it or to amend it. The Egyptians could fix the problem by requiring a large enough majority for ratification to ensure that the concerns of everyone were addressed but some people would rather live with civil war or the kind of ongoing civil strife that exists in Iran and Iraq in exchange of imposing their will on others.

Politics, Religion, War. What a pathetic pattern.

It is a blatant lie to claim that the draft constitution is widely rejected. All the available polls show that the majority of Egyptians are in favor of the draft. Just a couple of days ago,a Social Psychology center in one of Egypt’s universities has released its results of 11,800 in favor; around 500 not in favor and 1,500 abstaining. As for El-Baradei he is widely disrespected among the Egyptians,whom they believe is a liar and out of touch. Any close observer can tell they don’t give a hoot what the man says.

Politics; Religion, War. What a pathetic pattern. Reminds me of G. Dubya and the Republicans.

Many posts here seem to be linking Politics and Islam in a very negative way especially in connection with Mid-East politics. I wonder why isn’t Israel’s extremist religious leaders are never invoked nor mentioned in that very contest. After all, the basis for Israel’s politics is their religious beliefs.

Sensi, I couldn’t have said it better.

retired_sandman: I think you’ll be flabbergasted when you learn that the majority of the opposition in Egypt, are actually ex-communists and Nasserites.

Of all people Japan-Viewer, I am so confused, Japan was nuked by those who claim that they turn the other cheek. The muslims according to you are not so peaceful as they claim. WWII claimed 50 million lives, how many were due to muslims?? Learn your facts