Hamas's Gaza jubilation proves Israel is at risk: Netanyahu

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never again.

Dec 09, 2012 8:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
smallpeople wrote:

Netanyahu and Hamas just like Tea Party here in US – dominate the voice of governing body, insist “my way or highway”, believe they are doing God’s deed, and put their interest on top of the rest of their country people. Sad.

Dec 09, 2012 9:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
Castlecrag wrote:

What a twisted logic! If Israel wants recognition from the Palestinians, it should try recognizing the Palestinians by stopping the occupation of their lands and by not oppressing them. Why should Palestinians give legitimacy to a regime that imprisons them in concentration camps in their own territory?

Dec 09, 2012 9:38am EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

Any excuse will do to steal Palestinian land.
So if it is a buffer zone to protect Israel, then why are Israelis building houses on that same land in range for the rockets the land is supposed to protect against? It is like South Korea building houses in the Demilitarized Zone. Nutandyahoo’s excuse is ridiculous, and only a blind supporter would believe it.
Nutandyahoo is a WARMONGER, MURDERER, LIAR, and THIEF, and he is destroying Israel’s support around the world. If this land grab keeps up, Israel will be the next Iran, and will have sanctions against it.

Dec 09, 2012 9:38am EST  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

“NEVER AGAIN”
“Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.” -Edmund Burke
To the whiners: Why not adopt Hamas and put them in YOUR backyard? I know many Palestinians and they deserve a chance. NOT HAMAS!

Dec 09, 2012 10:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
mils54 wrote:

Simple political trap executed nicely by Israel,The dimwits gleefully walked in. Does Hamas represent the Palistinians without intimidation?.

Dec 09, 2012 11:03am EST  --  Report as abuse
Logical123 wrote:

Netanyahu is a madman. To try to argue with this man is totally useless. As long as he is the prime minister of this illegitimate and apartheid state, there will be no peace.

Dec 09, 2012 11:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
reality-again wrote:

@Castlecrag,

If Israel were to do what you suggest, it would have to disappear from the map, literally, and all its citizens would become homeless (or dead), because Hamas claims all of the land of Israel (quote: “every inch”).
Sounds unrealistic and crazy? You bet.

Dec 09, 2012 12:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JapanViewer wrote:

Thank God for Islamic Extremism. Wait. I’ll explain. As much as the Islamist try to deny and deceive the world of their violent and jihadist agenda, they almost always screw up and tell everyone what they’ve been wanting all along, all due to their hotheadedness. This can be seen all throughout the Islamic World, where either Al khaida, Hamas, Iran, Hizbullah, are unable to hold in their blood lusting desires and come clean and say it quite openly: Yes, my friends, we, the people of “the most peaceful religion in the world”, want to kill you. God Bless ‘em. You gotta love these guys for their honesty. Put another way: Thank God for Islamic Extremism.

Dec 09, 2012 12:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

The caption reads, “Hamas’s vow to vanquish Israel after claiming “victory” in last month’s Gaza conflict vindicates Israel’s reluctance to relinquish more land to the Palestinians…”

Before it gets better, it will get worse…

Gaza will erupt necessitating the return of the IDF, where IDF personnel will be picked off every day. This will weary the Jews, who will immediately jump at the one-state solution that a united Hamas/Fatah will suddenly announce:

Firstly, the term “Palestinian” was a national designation given to the inhabitants of the Jewish Homeland in 1922. Other than that, it had no ethnic/intrinsic nationalist* value, which is why the territory was re-named Israel on May 14, 1948 when the Jews declared independence.

Secondly, Arab governments resurrected the defunct “Palestinian” name in 1964 (at the first Arab League summit in Cairo, Egypt, where the PLO was officially created and launched) when they were forced to alter their strategy towards Israel, because Israel in 1963 had either tested their first nuclear bomb or actually acquired their first nuclear bomb.**

This brings us to the Six-Day War, which was planned (with the cooperation of the USSR) to be lost by Arab governments, so as to operationalize the Arab governments’ proxy strategy, using the newly-minted “Palestinians”.

Note that Arab governments never did create an “Arab” state for West Bank/Gaza inhabitants between 1948 – 1963, nor a “Palestinian” state (when “Arabs” was changed to “Palestinians”) between 1964 – May 1967.

The next phase of the Arab governments’ Long-Range Strategy will be to have Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza renounce their claim for an independent state and opt to become Israeli citizens instead, which is what they are according to the Palestine Mandate of 1922. When one throws in Arabs living in the refugee camps, the Jewish inhabitants of Israel will be electorally out-voted, leading to the reincorporation of the territory that is now Israel back into the Arab fold.

There is, however, one tactic that Israel will use to thwart the “new” Arab governments’ Long-Range Strategy:

Israel’s counter-strategy to offset the looming Arab electoral majority will be to offer Jews living all over the world automatic Israeli citizenship, thereby conferring the right to vote in Israeli elections, swinging the electoral balance back overwhelmingly to the Jewish side.

Contemporaneous with events described above, watch for the fake “collapse” of the Chinese Communist government (following the last major Communist disinformation operation: The fraudulent collapse of the USSR. Both disinformation operations fall under the “Long-Range Policy”, the “new” strategy all Communist nations signed onto in 1960 to defeat the West.), when soon after that “collapse” Mexico will request the “assistance” of Chinese troops in combating the then spreading Mexico City-manufactured “drug wars” there. America, however, will be stymied from preventing the presence of Chinese troops in Mexico due to emergencies that will “suddenly” crop up in the Korean peninsula, the Balkans, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
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*”The First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations (in Jerusalem, February 1919), which met for the purpose of selecting a Palestinian Arab representative for the Paris Peace Conference, adopted the following resolution: “We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.”[60]” – Wikipedia, “Palestinian People”.

and

“An all-Palestine Congress was held in Jerusalem between January 27 and February 10, 1919, to formulate a common policy, called “program”, on Palestine to advise Faisal while attending the Paris Peace Conference on behalf of the Arabs. The Jerusalem Congress was presided over by ‘Aref Pasha al-Dajani who was, at the time, the president of the Jerusalem branch of the Muslim-Christian Association mentioned earlier. (Representatives of the Association also attended the General Syrian Congress in Damascus.)(8)

The Jerusalem Congress, resolved to reject political Zionism and to accept British assistance on condition such assistance would not impinge upon Sovereignty in Palestine.(9) Basically, the Congress wanted Palestine to be part of an independent Syrian State to be governed by Faisal of the Hashemite family. It
also preferred U.S. political tutelage, should this be necessary, or British tutelage, as a second choice, but under no circumstances would the Congress accept French political guardianship.” – PALESTINE:
FACTIONALISM IN THE NATIONAL MOVEMENT (1919 – 1939), DR. MANUEL HASSASSIAN

Note that DR. MANUEL HASSASSIAN inadvertently admits to the lie of the “distinct Palestinian People” when he writes, “Basically, the Congress wanted Palestine to be part of an independent Syrian State to be governed by Faisal of the Hashemite family.”

In these consultations between Arab elites of Palestine circa 1919-1920, there was NO mention of the “distinct ethnic Palestinian people”. They referred to themselves as Syrian, Arab.

** Note: Arab governments held their first Arab League summit the very year after Israel’s reputed first test (or acquisition) of a nuclear bomb. The summit was necessary in order to implement a new Pan Arab government “Long-Range Strategy” towards Israel.

Dec 09, 2012 12:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
amorpheous wrote:

Israel keeps provoking Palestinians by continually stealing their land, destroying their resources, killing their citizens, denying Palestinians their bank funds, and waging military and diplomatic war against them. It’s normal and natural that Palestinians are fighting back against the oppression and tyranny of Israel. Netanyahu’s posturing is just another example of the ongoing war of attrition that Israel has waged against Palestine. The world is waking up and has said enough! Now it’s time that the US stops supporting Israel.

Dec 09, 2012 12:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
EXR wrote:

There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of your enemy. Niccolo Machiavelli … the outrageous idea that Israel can make any deal with an intransigent enemy, whose sole goal is to destroy them is of such nonsense as to go from the ridiculous to the obscene. “Hamas vows to vanquish Israel….”Not by speeches and resolutions of majorities are great questions of time decided upon…but by blood and iron.” A quote, from of all people, Otto von Bismarck … It is hard to imagine how those in the rest of the world are so dimwitted as to think any peace can be achieved with a group who has no intention of changing their main goal of the destruction of Israel. There is no compromise to which Hamas will agree with the actual intention of adhering to that agreement … Hamas will always attack in one form or another, claim that Israel is at fault, and begin their attacks once again.Intransigence, in the destruction of Israel is a Keystone of Israel’s enemies. What is astonishing, is the lack of common sense displayed by other so-called intelligent, civilized countries, who do not see that Hamas, and others like them, will ever change through negotiation. Politically, they merely chip away at Israel, garnering support with the idea that Israel is being unreasonable, while they, in fact, are the constant aggressor; sole purpose, Israel’s destruction. The rest of the world, i.e, those who would be politically correct at the sacrifice of intelligent common sense, will continue the foolishness of addressing this issue by dividing the fault between Israel, Hamas, and other enemies of Israel. Of all people, America should make it crystal clear that Hamas’s position of total annihilation of Israel is without exception, unacceptable. And that America, as well as all other nations who understand intransigence over compromise, is unacceptable, and will not be tolerated, and, if needs be, reinforced with common, and united conflict to resolve the issue … that, is one reasonable solution to this situation.The other solution would be that the rest of the world acknowledges and supports Israel’s right to defend themselves against any of their enemies – this conflict is inevitable, because there is no negotiating with intransigence.

Dec 09, 2012 12:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DavidGolani11 wrote:

Hamas has to spin this somehow into a victory, like how Saddam celebrated iraq’s “Victory” in the 1980s after suffering nearly a million casualties in his failed war and not achieving any of the objectives of defeating the iranian government or capturing land.

Dec 09, 2012 12:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
captainkona wrote:

@smallpeople

Exactly right.

Those posing as “leaders” on this planet are a bunch of power-crazed despots who have only their own best interests in mind. Degenerate prodigies with no concern for the lives of the average humans who’s lives they affect with their erroneous visions.

Netanyhoo and this quack from Hamas are two of the worst. They should both die.

Dec 09, 2012 12:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Jabotito wrote:

Mahmoud Abbas did not condemn Mashaal’s remarks advocating the destruction of Israel, just as previously he did not condemn the missiles that were fired at Israeli civilians.

Dec 09, 2012 1:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GuitarGuyMV wrote:

Hamas has made its goal clear. Hamas wants Gaza, the West Bank, Jerusalem and all of Israel as well. So much for the “land for peace” idea. But that won’t stop people from hating on Israel.

Dec 09, 2012 1:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Castlecrag wrote:

@realty-again
Hamas may claim all of the land, but they are confined to Gaza. Israel never claims all the Palestinian land, but it is stealing the land, settlement by settlement, day by day. So Hamas is at least honest, but Israel is a liar.
So don’t be fooled or deceived by what Israel says, just watch what Israel does.

Dec 09, 2012 1:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fromthecenter wrote:

The idiocy on both sides continues as it has for decades.

Dec 09, 2012 1:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

amorpheous says, “Israel keeps provoking Palestinians…”

Since the defunct term “Palestinian” was resurrected in 1963 by Arab governments as a proxy in their continued war against the Jewish State (which includes the West Bank and Gaza, per the Palestine Mandate of 1922), your comment is not only moot, but propaganda that condones the destruction of Israel.

Dec 09, 2012 1:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Waveman wrote:

Palestinians and others attacked Israel in 1967 and lost Gaza and West bank. Why would Israel give it back? There are no “do overs” in war.

Dec 09, 2012 1:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Waveman wrote:

Palestinians and others attacked Israel in 1967 and lost Gaza and West bank. Why would Israel give it back? There are no “do overs” in war.

Dec 09, 2012 1:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JojoAcapulco wrote:

The Zionists (not all Israelis) have delayed the establishment of a two-state solution for 20 years by pretending to negotiate. Netanyahu, an American citizen who never came near the Holocaust, clearly intends to go on isolating the Palestineans behind a wall and grabbing their land. U.S. support of this shameful activity only adds to Middle-Eastern hatred of America.

Dec 09, 2012 2:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

JojoAcapulco says, “The Zionists (not all Israelis) have delayed the establishment of a two-state solution for 20 years by pretending to negotiate.”

I guess you didn’t read my initial comment above:

“Note that Arab governments never did create an “Arab” state for West Bank/Gaza inhabitants between 1948 – 1963, nor a “Palestinian” state (when “Arabs” was changed to “Palestinians”) between 1964 – May 1967.”

Now, why did Arab governments suddenly resurrect the defunct term “Palestinian” in 1963?

Arab governments’ strategy is not a two-state solution as you mistakenly believe, but a one-state FINAL solution for the state of Israel as my initial comment laid out.

Dec 09, 2012 3:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

DeanMJackson,
Regardless of your historical notes. Israel/Gaza/Palestine has a large oppressed population that is not allowed to have the same levels of freedom, financial opportunity or ability to vote unless they have a Jewish ancestry – in the Israeli land given by the British and conquered in 1967.

This sounds a lot like Blacks in the USA before they gained equal rights.

Pretty sure Israel looked at that versus how the USA treated Indians and decided the best options to weaken a people was to isolate them to reservations. The USA Indians/First Nations had no backers to help them fight for their rights. Palestinians do. This Israeli strategy to become exclusively an all Jewish nation – is a meth dream. It will never happen.

There is too large a segregated population in their midst that they have never effectively integrated. Instead they want segregation and this continually boils into violence. These stubborn zealots are killing their nation and turning the world against them with their exclusivity.

Dec 09, 2012 3:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

Butch_from_PA says, “Israel/Gaza/Palestine has a large oppressed population that is not allowed to have the same levels of freedom, financial opportunity or ability to vote unless they have a Jewish ancestry – in the Israeli land given by the British and conquered in 1967.”

Of course Israel pretends with Arab governments that there are “Palestinians”, because if Israel admits what those “Palestinians” are…Israeli citizens…guess what happens to Israel? Israel is gone the next day, merged with Jordan. That’s why Arab governments adopted this new strategy towards Israel in 1963, using the “Palestinian” proxy to accomplish what they couldn’t any longer because Israel had the nuclear bomb.

Your historical analogies are way off. I don’t know of any American Indians that pretended to be something they weren’t, nor do I recall American Blacks wanting to merge America with Africa!

Dec 09, 2012 3:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Logical123 wrote:

Hamas has never said that it wants to “destroy” Israel in the sense of killing all the Jews living there. So, please stop repeating this nonsense. Israel is trying to kill all the Palestinians.

Dec 09, 2012 3:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse

It is the people of Gaza who are at risk from the Israeli blockade, from Israeli chemical weapons and banned cluster bombs, from Israeli assassination of its leaders, from Israeli bombs dropped on a civilian population by drones and American supplied F16 strike aircraft and helicopter gunships, from Israeli tanks firing high explosive shells into schools, hospitals and homes and from brutal killings of men, women an children by heavily armed troops. When will the killing and oppression, and land theft stop and when will the world tell America to stop supporting these terrible atrocities?

Dec 09, 2012 4:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Life1 wrote:

@DeanMJackson: ‘Israel’ was defunct for close to 2’000 years and then magically ‘resurrected’. What exactly is your point?

Dec 09, 2012 7:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

Life1 says, “‘Israel’ was defunct for close to 2’000 years and then magically ‘resurrected’. What exactly is your point?”

Huh, I suppose you forgot who lost World War I, hence lost the Middle East, after which SIX nations were created for the Arabs (Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Jabal al Druze and The Alawite State) and ONE state for the Jews of the Middle East…Palestine. The reason no state was ever created for the “Palestinians” is because no such group existed!

Have you got a problem with the Jews of the Middle East getting a state of their own?

Dec 09, 2012 8:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

Reuters1945, Arafat’s comment, “Since we can not defeat Israel in open confrontation”, is why Arab governments had to devise a “Long-Range Strategy” towards Israel, which was established at first Arab League Summit in Cairo, Egypt in 1964. The strategy’s operational phase began when Israel was allowed to capture the West Bank and Gaza in the 1967 war. The Six-Day War was a setup to be lost by Arab governments. The USSR played a hand in this disinformation operation, assisting the Arab governments.

However, the rest of the Arab strategy as Arafat states it is intentionally wrong. Zakhir Mukhsein’s presentation of the plan is closer to the truth, though vague on details. For the details of the Arab governments’ “Long-Range Strategy”, see my initial comment above.

Dec 09, 2012 9:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
LoudLiberal wrote:

Logical123 wrote:
“Hamas has never said that it wants to “destroy” Israel in the sense of killing all the Jews living there. So, please stop repeating this nonsense. Israel is trying to kill all the Palestinians.”

Hamas’ Charter explicitly calls for the extermination of the Jews and the annihilation of Israel. If Israel was not a Jewish nation, the arab muslims would care nothing about it. Only because Israel is a Jewish nation do the arab muslims call for the annihilation of Israel – because of their religious hatred of Jews.

Dec 09, 2012 10:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
LoudLiberal wrote:

JojoAcapulco wrote:
“The Zionists (not all Israelis) have delayed the establishment of a two-state solution for 20 years by pretending to negotiate. Netanyahu, an American citizen who never came near the Holocaust, clearly intends to go on isolating the Palestineans behind a wall and grabbing their land. U.S. support of this shameful activity only adds to Middle-Eastern hatred of America.”

There already is a two state solution: Israel and Jordan. There will NEVER be an arab nation in the land of Israel.

Dec 09, 2012 10:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
LoudLiberal wrote:

Doc62 wrote:
“NEVER AGAIN”
“’Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.’ -Edmund Burke To the whiners: Why not adopt Hamas and put them in YOUR backyard? I know many Palestinians and they deserve a chance. NOT HAMAS!”

The correct quote is: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,” by George Santayana from “Life or Reason I.”

Other than that, I agree with you. There’s a reason why the arab muslims who occupy Israeli land are rejected by every other arab nation.

Dec 09, 2012 10:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Looter wrote:

The greatest risk Israel is facing now is the manipulation of its people, economy and resources by the extreme right wing. What Israelis truly deserve is peace but what they haven’t got for centuries is peace, and as long as the manipulation by the right wingers goes on there won’t be peace… When I said right wingers they are on both sides.

Dec 10, 2012 1:01am EST  --  Report as abuse

@deanMjackson

You’re an Israeli obviously with a mindset that tells you that others are inferior. Big mistake. HUGE!

Dec 10, 2012 3:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
Hank22 wrote:

logical123 is more like illogical – why don’t you read before you speak your mind – here is the direct quote from Article 13 of the Hamas Charter : “Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. “Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know…There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad” – Jighad means holy war and if you think they mean that in the “spiritual sense” perhaps you should reexamine that fact and consider the tens of thousands of rockets and missiles that they accumulate instead of paving their roads and turning their land into a habitable peaceful place – enough is enough with naivity.

Dec 10, 2012 10:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
Logical123 wrote:

LoudLiberal: The Hamas Charter is irrelevant. It was written by an independent cleric and is not the basis for Hamas policies. Read the Wikipedia on “Hamas Charter.” However, Hamas will not modify it on tactical grounds. To repeat, it is irrelevant. So, please stop talking about it.

Dec 10, 2012 12:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

DouglasReed100 says, “You’re an Israeli obviously with a mindset that tells you that others are inferior. Big mistake. HUGE!”

I’m Roman Catholic! Check out my Facebook page (Google: Facebook Dean Jackson 562).

Where did I say Arabs are inferior? God loves Arabs no more or less than Jews or Christians, Hindus, Atheists, Communists, etc.

Now go back and re-read my OBJECTIVE comments. If you have a problem with the history I present you must attack that history, NOT imply I’m a propagandist!

Dec 10, 2012 1:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse

@deanMjackson

You’re a Catholic and you’re defending the Israeli government!! You ARE joking?
The Catholic community in Europe during WW2 were of great assistance to Hitler’s National Socialists in rounding-up Jewish communities for deportation to the camps in Poland. After the war in 1945 they were instrumental in assisting many members of the Nazi party to escape the allied armies and the Nuremberg War Trials by arranging passage for them to South America.

Dec 10, 2012 6:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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