North Korea rocket launch raises nuclear stakes

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easydoesit wrote:

Damn so North Korea launched the test missile

Dec 11, 2012 8:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CHMorrison wrote:

It’s hard to see how they will win here. It will either look like they are losers or that they are a danger to the region they are in, regardless of whether they put up a satellite or not, or whether the missile goes where they said it would or not. Our side gets to collect information in any case.

Dec 11, 2012 8:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
FreeForNow wrote:

Impoverished? Who says? Not the U.N. What about that widely publicized satellite photo showing N.Korea all lit up while S.Korea is dark.

Dec 11, 2012 8:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Josephwatson wrote:

Why the rocket is launched on this particular day: 12-12-2012?

Dec 11, 2012 8:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
newheart200 wrote:

The North Koreans ignore the weak Obama demands because he has no respect from our enemies .They see his false threats as hollow and having no consequences.Our foreign policy is at the lowest point in recent history.This will be Obamas legacy.

Dec 11, 2012 8:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
1WorldDone wrote:

FreeForNow – You should look at that satellite photo again and actually learn some geography. It’s the north with no lights, not the south.

And you might just go to South Korea and see just how advanced they really are. Unless of course you’re impoverished and can’t afford the ticket…

Dec 11, 2012 8:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
victor672 wrote:

No comment from the Dear Leader, Obama. He’s too busy campaigning and posing for photo-ops.

Dec 11, 2012 8:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ronryegadfly wrote:

The North Korean government is a legitimate government, despite our every effort to make them appear illegitimate. Their current leaders weren’t even alive when North Korea invaded the South decades ago. Why are they being punished for that? We should stop trying to force feed Democracy around the globe. It isn’t the only form of government that can succeed and breed happy citizens.

Dec 11, 2012 9:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
bobber1956 wrote:

newheart200
obama is just another noisy saber rattler-it is his heritage. They know that.

Dec 11, 2012 9:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TedSutton wrote:

Hey FreeForNow…I think you have the photo backwards. It is North Korea that is dark. If you think you are right and I’m wrong, produce the photo.

And while you are at it ask yourself why would North Korea be all lit up while South Korea with an economy 14 times the strength of the North be dark?

Is this some giant conspiracy trying to hide the “real truth” that it’s the North that is the rich Korea, and South Korea is the poor country?

Dec 11, 2012 9:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dperry316 wrote:

@FreeForNow There was no such picture. There was, however, a widely publicized picture of a DARK North Korea and a brightly lit up South Korea. Maybe you don’t know your head from your tail or your north from your south. So, yes, North Korea is impoverished. Take it from someone who has been there.

Dec 11, 2012 9:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
RUKidding9 wrote:

Should have shot it down.

Dec 11, 2012 9:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

“North Koreans and their Muslim partners”

North Korea is allied to China not to “muslim partners in crime”. The North Korean issue is linked to the competition between the US and China.

Why is that some countries can freely launch rockets while others can’t?

Dec 11, 2012 9:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Centurian wrote:

Uhhhhhhh, Everybody, I think freefornow was being sarcastic. Or at least I hope he/she was.

Dec 11, 2012 9:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
djbullock wrote:

@FreeForNow said: “What about that widely publicized satellite photo showing N.Korea all lit up while S.Korea is dark.”

You have it backwards… in that photo, N. Korea was in the dark.

Dec 11, 2012 9:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

Wow that was one long dong!

Dec 11, 2012 9:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mammawati wrote:

Well that is just swell. Jung Kim Chow and his minions sneak one past the West. We can’t protect ambassadors and we can’t get accurate information about what one rogue nation is doing with one missle. We are doomed. Our so called intelligence services are no better than McDonald’s order takers. And far more dangerous.

Dec 11, 2012 10:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bib_Bear wrote:

I thought Japan was going to shoot it down. Is the Shitismaka no match for the Lon Duk Dong?

Dec 11, 2012 10:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fromthecenter wrote:

Funny, a huge portion of the korean population are starving without running water or electricity and their govt is launching a rocket for a weather satelite? What a sad place for human beings to live.

Dec 11, 2012 10:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fromthecenter wrote:

@newheart200 where the heck have you been over the last 20 years? This is the behavior they have been doing thru 3 or 4 administrations already.

Dec 11, 2012 10:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

The US, the Soviet Union, the UK, and 26 other countries signed a space treaty in 1987 that GUARANTEES every country the right to explore space.
That includes North Korea. The treaty was ratified in the USA by CONGRESS.
If only Obama had not signed that treaty in 1967 when he was the 6 year old child President of the USA, and had not ordered Congress to ratify the treaty.
LOL
You Obama haters and election sore losers make me laugh until I cry.

Dec 11, 2012 10:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
FrankOtheMT wrote:

Yeah? Well 1/3 of United States is impoverished too…..and getting worse.

Dec 11, 2012 10:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
FrankOtheMT wrote:

No reason to use words like “puny” describing their economy unless you are trying to anger them with propaganda. Real smart. I hope that thing NASA launched yesterday had something to do with intercepting NKoreas “test”. Of course Obama will say and do nothing. His policy is to just sit there and hope for the best.

Dec 11, 2012 10:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

Yes indeed, this is Obama’s fault. President Obama, the longest serving President in history, going on 13 years. If only Obama had been tough on the North Koreans like GW Bush.

July 12, 2000: Fifth round of US-North Korean missile talks ends in Kuala Lumpur without agreement after North demands $1 billion a year in return for halting missile exports

March 3, 2005: North ends moratorium on long-range missile testing, blames Bush administration’s “hostile” policy

July 5, 2006: North test-fires seven missiles, including a long-range Taepodong-2 which explodes after 40 seconds

July 15, 2006: UN Security Council adopts Resolution 1695, demanding halt to all ballistic missile activity and banning trade in missile-related items with the North

Oct 9, 2006: North conducts underground nuclear test, its first

Dec 11, 2012 10:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
FrankOtheMT wrote:

This article was written by the US Govt.

Dec 11, 2012 10:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
FirstLast wrote:

Japan needs to get inside the iron dome.

Dec 11, 2012 11:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse

We can all pout and throw a hissy fit about the launch, what is to follow is most important. China will be a power house by 2030 as per CIA’s intelligence reports, so we’d better pay close attention to our $ going down the drain and a military hard to sustain.
China has been the biggest benfactor to N Korea like USA is to Israel, so go figure. I guess they both want balance of power, at the cost of human lives, so friggin sad.

Dec 11, 2012 11:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
FreeForNow wrote:

Yes, thank you Centurian, I was being sarcastic. Of course the people of N.Korea are impoverished, and I am glad to know that so many of you are familiar with the satellite photo! FrankOtheMT, I agree we here in the U.S. are on our way there also! americanguy ITA that we have had years of warnings to prepare for this, so are we? I pray that we are.

Dec 11, 2012 11:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse

A nation perfectly willing to starve a couple of million of its own citizens to death to pay for a nuclear weapons program isn’t too worried about sanctions and harsh words. They will, once again, play us for suckers and get something in exchange for an “agreement” to stop. Then they will ignore the agreement. Again, if you are willing to kill millions, why sweat something as silly as ignoring an agreement made with foolish westerners.

Dec 11, 2012 11:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kumba wrote:

What about giving us a finger……

Dec 12, 2012 12:05am EST  --  Report as abuse
tailorgao wrote:

It’s marvelous for North Korea.

Dec 12, 2012 12:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
Yessireee wrote:

Don’t expect this administration to do a damned thing about it. Obama and his eunuchs are more concerned about disemboweling the rich and eviscerating the republicans as they rub it in their faces that the progressive proletariat won the election and don’t give a damn what the 49% who didn’t vote for them thinks. Obama only cares about his pursuit of money and power. The rich are just puppets he uses to create class warfare and division in the republic by using scandals and crises to his advantage regardless of who gets hurt or murdered.

Dec 12, 2012 1:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
antiUSAperson wrote:

North Korea did bad stuff but also US did many bad things since 1945…. in Korean peninsula…Because of US and Soviet…Korean people divided into two….I hate USA. I hate all USA people. I hate whites and blacks because they smell bad also their mind is too young. I also hate asian-americans. It is because of USA, Korean peninsula divided into two.

Dec 12, 2012 1:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
Johnlewis1452 wrote:

No nuke tech? They already conducted two nuke tests a few years back. No?

Dec 12, 2012 1:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
brodave wrote:

Obama and the other pansy-azz leaders fiddle while our enemies move to further their goals of destroying the USA.

Way to go Obama, Pansy-Azz, in the White House.

Crap!

Dec 12, 2012 2:14am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

What happened to using this “satellite” (missile) launch as target practice for anti-missile defence? Did the Japanese decide in the end that it wasn’t an immediate danger to them?

Dec 12, 2012 3:09am EST  --  Report as abuse
Larry78643 wrote:

I say we need to dump the un and tell them to get their own building somwhere else. I am sick of these people trying to tell us what to do

Dec 12, 2012 3:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

@Josephwatson: because Kim Jong-un knows that 12-12-12 is 2× as bad as 6-6-6…

Dec 12, 2012 4:09am EST  --  Report as abuse
joe10082 wrote:

If he truly wanted to impress the world with his leadership unlike the dingbats that preceded him he would take aggressive measures to feed his starving people but this eludes him owing to a serious lack of gray matter between his ears.

Dec 12, 2012 4:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

@FirstLast: Iron Dome is an interceptor system for short-range missiles. This North Korean rocket is a long-range satellite launcher/ ballistic missile launcher system. The article claims the North Koreans can use this to hit the West coast of the USA, but that’s an understatement: if the launcher can place a useful satellite in orbit, then it can probably launch a missile that would hit any part of the planet. The only questions in my mind now that the Japanese declined to shoot this thing down are:
• What are the chances that the USA and her allies could shoot down a volley of North Korean long-range ballistic missiles, next year? In five years? In twenty years??? What would be the outcome of a conflict like that? North Korea wiped off the map, China’s navy castrated for supporting NK, and a few unlucky Western cities flattened when the missile shield “only” gets a 90% success rate?
• How long is it going to take for Western leaders to get serious again about NK, hold China to account, and stop appeasing the tin-pot dictators? (Seriously, Kim Jong-un makes the James Bond film baddies look believable — and perhaps this isn’t an accident, given that his papa/predecessor was a big fan of James Bond films…)

Dec 12, 2012 4:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
Cyskee wrote:

All this hoop-la. The critics and the World should be worried about the US and Russia. In that order. After all the US is the only one to use a nuclear device for war. Twice.

Dec 12, 2012 5:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
alwanderer wrote:

MacArthur was right.

Dec 12, 2012 7:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
yrbmegr wrote:

When my son was 7 or 8, we used to launch rockets together.

Dec 12, 2012 8:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
Templar8 wrote:

Did you see where the White said the N.Korean action was “Highly Provocative.”? So Obama and his minions have been “provoked” to do what? I know, what they always do, nothing. They’re like the big braggart always shooting off their mouths about what they’re going to do. When it comes to really doing something, well that’s another story.
Maybe it feels good to them to talk like tough guys. And then there are plenty of people who have to do and say something to keep their phony baloney jobs. Listen, if I know that the Obama folks are bluffing, you can sure bet that the North Koreans know it as well. They get a good laugh out of such bluster. The best use of your time is to just ignore most of what these ciphers say.

Dec 12, 2012 8:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
crittertron wrote:

So if I understand this correctly, the West fears a stratigically isolated nation of just 23 million that are surrounded by enough weapons to kill them all 1000 times? I think we need a hobby.

Dec 12, 2012 8:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
CatGarfield wrote:

I wonder why my comment was deleted. that rocket is actually a big toy nowadays since it is as original as the rockets launched by US and Soviet Union half century ago. it might breakthrough the Iron Dome of Israel, but it is impossible to avoid missile defence system like GMD,NTW,PAC-3, NAD and MEADS. the anti-missile systems in US are nearly perfect now, especially when they face to an simple original ballistic missile.

Dec 12, 2012 9:18am EST  --  Report as abuse

Ever heard of a “Cat’s Paw”? North Korea borders China. Does North Korea do anything without China’s O.K.?

Dec 12, 2012 9:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
Wyrdless1 wrote:

If they can afford to launch a rocket, then they don’t need food aid or energy assistance

Dec 12, 2012 9:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
Kizmau wrote:

@americanguy: I hope youre trolling. Obama, 13 years? I LOL’d

The fact of the matter is, North Korea did not follow their agreement that they made. Surprising I KNOW. Kim Jong-un is showing that he has zero class and will do what he wants regardless of what he says. Similar to a small child that has not learned the ropes of being a responsible adult. I believe that all aid should be immediately halted to North Korea and we ban all other countries from giving anything to them as well. There is no more need for agreements as North Korea has shown multiple times that they can not follow through with their side of the deal. An intervention needs to take place, no more discussions.

Dec 12, 2012 10:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

> China had expressed “deep concern” prior to the launch which was announced a day after a top politburo member, representing new Chinese leader Xi Jinping, met Kim Jong-un in Pyongyang.

I wonder how that conversation went? Perhaps something like this:

Kim Jong-un: “May we go ahead with the launch at this time?”
Chinese diplomat: “Yes. You will meet with the usual official condemnations, but don’t worry about that…”

Dec 12, 2012 10:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
Marcuscassius wrote:

Yes, Obama is totally responsible for everything that’s happened in the last 30 years. He should have corrected everything the Republicans have done by now. He’s had 4 years and half of Congress supporting him. (Okay, less than half). And he should have started a war wioth north Korea. That’s what “W” would have done. And what about fixing Global warming and the over eating of beef? Obama’s just lazy. It’s all those $400 million vacations he wastes all his time on when he should be working. Why can’t be more like the Republicans? Start wars. Crash the economy. Destroy education. Politisize the courts. Ruin the CIA and the FBI by installing cronies. Transfer 20% of the wealth to the 2% and then drop their taxes to all time lows.

Yea, Bad ol’ Obama.

Dec 12, 2012 10:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

antiUSAperson – Trying to get a rise out of someone?

Well here’s one: I hate idiot trolls.

Dec 12, 2012 10:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
surgednb wrote:

Oh they have a working rocket. But guess what, one successful rocket doesn’t establish a trend…

Dec 12, 2012 10:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
Kizmau wrote:

@Life1 When was the last time the US asked for aid from another country? Youre missing the point. Its like driving a brand new caddy while taking in welfare from the govt.

Dec 12, 2012 11:08am EST  --  Report as abuse
totherepublic wrote:

When N Korea (or anyone else) starts basing rockets somewhere in the Western Hemisphere, say like Venezuela, then we should worry. Until then? We do have the means to shoot almost anything down launched that far away now. Perhaps reuters is running out of crap to incite people with.

Dec 12, 2012 11:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
totherepublic wrote:

Life1
No, not most of us. But I am pleased you think that. It is good to be underestimated.

Dec 12, 2012 11:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
cebva wrote:

Another success story for “crippling” sanctions favored by Hillary and the OweBama administration. Yawn.

Dec 12, 2012 11:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
ChangeWhat wrote:

No new news here, who cares?

We will never invade North Korea because they have no resources we can steal.

If North Korea did start a war, their one nuclear missile will never hit the western seaboard of America. It will be shot down way before entering our space or we would just bomb their launch platforms prior.

This is propaganda news at its finest taking the light of Obama’s second term as president. What has Obama done since he was reelected for the American people? and Where is his economic plan to get us jobs and fix this country?

I don’t care about North Korea, South Korea, Europe, Africa, Asia, the middle east.

I want to know what is being done to fix America!

Dec 12, 2012 11:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
adamsmith911 wrote:

And when is the President going to comment on this??? We have such a weak leader…

Dec 12, 2012 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

The most interesting aspect is the fact that Kim Jong Un for the first time disobeyed the “express wish” of Russia and China.

Dec 12, 2012 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

I am impressed. Rocket science is not easy. Hopefully their new leader will choose a of less confrontation, and the US will and South Korea will seek a path of peace.

Dec 12, 2012 1:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Carmi wrote:

Now North Korea won’t have to ask for food, they can take it under threat of a nuclear warhead to be delivered if their demands are not met.

Dec 12, 2012 1:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
philip75 wrote:

And, despite all warnings, NK did it anyway. And why did they do it? Because (10 they wanted to, and (2) they know no one will do anything about it. It is as simple as that. No one will ever do anything about it.

Dec 12, 2012 1:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
plainspeak wrote:

obama to iran: Can we pretty please have our drone back?
obama to russia: Sure we can disarm our missiles. I trust that you will do the same
obama to north korea: Those actions are doggone provocative.

The only people under scrutiny and attack from obama are the people within this country. Its still impossible to believe this amateur was re-elected.

Dec 12, 2012 1:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BadSSanta wrote:

Excellent work by North Korea- discounting the nuclear capability- it should shame NASA that so much can be accomplished by small budgets and willpower.

Dec 12, 2012 1:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse

The U.S. should arm Japan and S.Korea with a few dozen ICBMs armed with nukes aimed at N. Korea and then put out a press release: “The U.s believes the Security Council’s response should be cautious and moderate, protect the overall peaceful and stable situation on the Korean peninsula, and avoid an escalation.”

Dec 12, 2012 1:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BadSSanta wrote:

Has anyone ever been to Pyongyang from the West? I have. It is a beautiful city. Yes- you have to take the Communist PR with a pinch of salt- but the graphics ar amazing.
Clean, wide avenues, minimal traffic. People are friendly and curious. The food is excellent. There are no poor sleeping in the streets or eating discarded food from trash cans unlike the US.
Embarrassingly to the US government Americans- there are is a sizeable population of US defectors living there. They get far better healthcare than the US.

Dec 12, 2012 2:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dabbbles wrote:

What utter hypocrisy!!!!! Israel has flaunted MANY more UN resolutions than North Korea (in fact, more than ALL other countries combined!!) and there’s not been a single threat. Not only do the israelis have a huge neclear arsenal, but USA-built missiles, aircraft and other technology to launch them….and has repeatedly threatened to use them against just about anybody.

Moreover, North Korea has NEVER in living memory attacked any of its neighbours, nor even fought anybody except invaders from elsewhere. The israelis have repeatedly attacked their neighbours and others further afield, includingn assassinations, etc. Genocide and ethnic-cleansing are the foundations of the jewish state. And nary a threat has it ever been confronted with, nor anythingb more than a lukewarm tut-tut.

But the Grand-daddy of all aggressive states, the US, has violently invaded and/or bombed more sovereign states that the original nazis, and been rersponsible for as much murder and misery. It has more nukes than the rest of the world combined, along with all sorts of other WMD.

That this publication serves the ends of these monster, and mostrous, threats to the whole world by farting in the elevator and pointing at North Korea puts it firmly in the nazi camp.
For Shame!!

Dec 12, 2012 3:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
beancube2101 wrote:

Don’t worry about N. Korea, Israel can blow us away without any internal law restrictions using the nuclear arsenal long time ago. We should worry about the real hijackers first.

Dec 12, 2012 3:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
rmccr wrote:

I think we should really wait until they have the ability to bomb the US and other countries before action is taken. And we should contiue to feed the country and make them stronger. We and the rest of the world are fools and deserve what we get.

Dec 12, 2012 3:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
OzBolts wrote:

The Cold War of yesteryear is over. The world is back as it’s been through most of history, in some respects.

While there are undeniable powers in the world (US, China, etc) there is no longer a division between the West and the USSR and their allies. Europe did it for centuries, hell…millennia. The middle east has been rife with splinter wars since the day before forever. Asia has been at one anothers throats for just as long.

This is nothing new, and to believe that two world wars and a cold war changed anything in the general action of realist nation states is simply false.

The technology has changed. We haven’t.

Dec 12, 2012 3:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VonHell wrote:

It was quite an achievement if you think about it…
The country never recovered from the korean war and is isolated and under sanctions since then… resulting in a self reliant medieval economic system…
I would expect the country ending like Cuba…
instead they entered the group of about half dozen countries capable of nuclear weapons technology and put an object into orbit…
Ofc much of the technology must be chinese… but US too depended totally of european scientists to create the nuclear bomb and later to put a rocket into space…

Dec 12, 2012 6:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
FirstLast wrote:

@matthewslyman: Israel probably already has a nuclear iron dome, but they are not acknowledging it. If they don’t have it yet they probably have made more progress than the US.

Dec 12, 2012 7:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Mikehawksbig wrote:

When intervieved, Kim Ul Puppy Chow replied: oppa gangnam style

Dec 12, 2012 8:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sonic1632 wrote:

Its like the game homefront that us a satellite but was really a atomic bom

Dec 12, 2012 10:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
newjunkie wrote:

It’s quite an achievement to launch your own satellite. Very few countries in the world have that capability.

Also I am surprised to learn that North Korea’s GDP per capita is higher than that of India, Bangladesh and my country Pakistan. So maybe it’s not as impoverished as they make it out to be.

Dec 12, 2012 10:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Shoen wrote:

Still, the only nation that ever used this weapons for mass killing of innocent civilians is the US and you want me to believe that North Korea is a threat?

Dec 14, 2012 3:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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