Obama urges solidarity as America mourns shooting victims

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TCLB wrote:

I can’t even begin to wrap my mind around the motivation that could bring a monster like this to attack children. What can we possibly do to make America safer and prevent these events of inhuman slaughter from ever happening again? Taking away weapons from citizens can endangers some, and protects others. Keeping them would require elevated levels of security up to a ‘TSA’ equivalent at every public area. Biometric scanners, new security technologies, and professionally trained staff could work to prevent it at great expense to the schools. States could mobilize the National Guard to work security, but could undermine police forces, and perhaps even give the appearance of fascist police state. What can we do, America?

Dec 14, 2012 9:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PKFA wrote:

Barack Obama using the CT tragedy for political posturing? I’m stunned!

Dec 14, 2012 10:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ballsy wrote:

Gun control will do nothing except increase the number of victims.

Dec 14, 2012 10:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Amskeptic wrote:

It is time to roll over the NRA which has an inordinate influence over our Representatives. We *must* take sensible steps to outlaw automatic weapons and internet-available bullets and gunshow loopholes. NOTE that I did not say take away sporting weapons or self-defense pistols. WHEN the NRA types start mewling and tantrumming about their second amendment rights, let’s shut them up this once, and tell them to join the ranks of the civilized. It is NO coincidence that we have the greatest number of weapons per capita in the world AND the highest homocide by gun rate in the world. A filthy tragedy just occurred in my childhood school where I spent my elementary years, and my heart aches for those bereft parents. We *must* intercept these lonely rageful outcasts, these mentally-ill kids before their disenfranchisement hardens their hearts and they lash out against the innocent.

Dec 14, 2012 10:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
victor672 wrote:

Obama wants “meaningful action”. Meaningful action? Like removing all godless liberals who have ruined schools and infiltrated churches, who have destroyed authority and parental rights, and turned children into amoral, spoiled and entitled monsters? Those liberals? That would be meaningful.

Dec 14, 2012 10:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Amskeptic wrote:

PKFA wrote:
“Barack Obama using the CT tragedy for political posturing? I’m stunned!”

If that is what you saw and interpreted, it only illuminates your own closed and barren heart.

Dec 14, 2012 10:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Amskeptic wrote:

victor672 wrote:
“Obama wants “meaningful action”. Meaningful action? Like removing all godless liberals who have ruined schools and infiltrated churches, who have destroyed authority and parental rights, and turned children into amoral, spoiled and entitled monsters? Those liberals? That would be meaningful.” Oh my, another bitter old white guy who cannot tolerate that our President is an intelligent principled deeply empathetic human being. You know what is ruining our country, old man? The greed of the corporate oligarchy that has vacuumed up the increased productivity of the American workforce over the past thirty years while holding our wages flat. I know some amazing and gifted young people and they give me great hope for this vital country. Sorry you’re missing it as you head into the bitter blackness of your own sunset.

Dec 14, 2012 10:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
IHATU wrote:

If only those law abiding teachers were allowed to carry concealed weapons… i wonder how many of those children would still be alive.

Dec 14, 2012 10:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tychicum wrote:

Yes arming teachers is the answer … DOH!

Dec 14, 2012 11:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jabberwolf wrote:

@judgebean – though victor is blanketing a bit, the removal of close knit community (usually in place by a church)does seem to have contributed to more extreme atrocities. Thats his argument by the way and it does have some merit.
@Amskeptic Im not even sure where your argument is, but its so wrong in everyway. People choose to buy from companies and choose to join unions or not. Deciding that choice is a bad thing when people decide against a union = is hypocrital and retarded fascism at best.

As for Obama, Ive seen fake crying and he was so fake it made me green and sick to my stomach. The bastard will use this for political show as usual. He (and anyone supporting his shallow performance) should be ashamed of themselves. Lets hope Obama doesnt use this to take citizens protections away as Stalin, Hitler, Mao and British (before 1776) have done before taking power. This just shows that people who shouldnt have guns, get ahold of them illegally regardless. Police will not always be there immediately to protect you, you have the right to own a weapon to protect yourself. No one in the office had a gun except the killer – remember that.

Dec 14, 2012 11:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
rgbviews wrote:

Yesterday I watched a commercial on US TV advertising guns as Christmas presents.
Today I watched the tragedy in Connecticut.

The USA is one sick cookie!!

Dec 14, 2012 11:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
rgbviews wrote:

ballsy

Sorry but the banning of assault weapons and the control of all other weapons WILL reduce victims. You’ll just have to find some other prop to be “ballsy”.

Dec 14, 2012 11:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
alldayUSA wrote:

Before we start calling for the second amendment to be repealed…look at this link http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2012/12/2012121481220620325.html We are not the only ones that this happens to, and it is not always guns.

Dec 14, 2012 11:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
judgebean wrote:

Jabberwolf:

There are millions of families out there that can be classified as being liberal and they have no issues. There are millions of conservative families that can claim the same. There are also pedophiles running around disguised as clergy, whackjobs who were raised in christian families that become serial killers and countless people who have died in the name of religion.

To portray these issues as a result of the decline of Christianity and the onset of the liberal doctrine while you ignore mental issues, societal pressure due to economic disparity and the underlying core of divided political hatred is juvenile and hypocritical.

You would be better served to cite broken family structure, a lack of mental health awareness and violence in the media than rant about the decline of religion and onset of liberal ideologies.

Dec 14, 2012 11:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Darr247 wrote:

@Amskeptic – despite the claims of Bob Schieffer, they were common semi-automatic handguns designed in the early 20th century (hence the name “1911″), not automatic weapons, which have been illegal since the 1930s without a federal firearms license.

If the principal’s and/or her clerk would’ve been armed, the shooter (stop publishing his name – he doesn’t deserve even infamy) wouldn’t have been able to slaughter 20 kids.

Dec 14, 2012 11:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
judgebean wrote:

“If the principal’s and/or her clerk would’ve been armed, the shooter (stop publishing his name – he doesn’t deserve even infamy) wouldn’t have been able to slaughter 20 kids.”

Pure conjecture and speculation. The armed teacher could have done as much harm as good. Have you ever aimed a gun at a living person? How many soldiers freeze or shoot wild during battle? Do you have any idea how many people panic or aim wildly when they shoot at a deer let alone a human? Wouldn’t security and metal detectors at one entry point make more sense?

Dec 15, 2012 12:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
Dakotacountry wrote:

It is a terriable act of tear and violence.I makes the country just sick to watch. So many blame the guns, but truth is we have to blame ourselves. Drugs are banned and we haven’t slowed them down much. Cars kill thousands but we don’t ban them. Fifty years ago some schools had gun racks at the back of the class rooms for the country kids to put their guns in when they hunted or whatever on there way to school and we didn’t have these kind of shooting then. I don’t think the guns have changed much in 50 years but the people have. We need to fix the problem not the gun. Unfortunately as we more toward socialism we probably will see more Lunitics.

Dec 15, 2012 12:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
joebiteme wrote:

Hey, that knocked that pesky fiscal cliff out of the news, didn’t it? Phew.

Dec 15, 2012 12:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fr0ntSight wrote:

Hopefully Obamas healthcare plan will do something to address these issues. It is obviously a healthcare problem.

Dec 15, 2012 1:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fr0ntSight wrote:

@Dakotacountry
You are absolutely right.

Dec 15, 2012 1:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fr0ntSight wrote:

@Dakotacountry
You are absolutely right.

Dec 15, 2012 1:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
Sonorama wrote:

Jabberwolf. Ever heard of Charlie Whitman? Nice, clean-cut American guy who legally owned a few guns. Pistols, shotguns, rifles, all that good stuff.

You know, the guy who shot and killed eleven innocent people from the tower on the Texas A&M campus.

Don’t get me wrong. I love my boomstick. It’s the only thing between me and a pack of coyotes, or a bear, or a mountain lion, or a violent criminal. But we still need regulation, and it needs to be focused on the knowledge and capability of those who buy guns.

Just like with cars. At any time, a car owner could get into their car, turn the key, and go kill shitloads of people. Any goddamn time. And gun owners, they could grab their gun(s), walk out the door, and kill shitloads of people. You can argue that the number of people killed would be lower if everyone around them was carrying guns as well, and to that I say: how do you know?

Say, for example, that someone who served in the military has a decent, legally-owned semiautomatic hunting rifle, 500 cartridges (heavy but doable), and a well-defended spot (such as the tower of Texas A&M University) to snipe from in a populated area. Will the percentage of gun-carrying people in the sniper’s vicinity – especially considering that most would likely be packing short-range firearms – really affect the final number of people killed by the sniper?

Dec 15, 2012 1:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fr0ntSight wrote:

it is being regulated….quite thoroughly in conn..what do you want exactly?

Dec 15, 2012 2:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
FatherJames wrote:

Both sides are likely to use this hideous tragedy for political fodder… Right winger said because of “lack of God” in schools and Left almost drooling…

…Others howling about video games and sickness of America… (never mind Norwegian massacre…) This is not a “political opportunity…” and I damn all on either side who use it for that purpose…

Dec 15, 2012 2:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
natethash wrote:

After 20+ years of political correctness, timeouts, trophies for every child, ritalin, all but outlawing spanking/paddling, etc…

this is what happens.

Pat yourselves on the backs liberals. Your social experiment was doomed from the start; yet, you turned a blind eye to the warning signs. This and the many other similar tragedies carried out by young people in the past 10years fall squarely on your shoulders

Dec 15, 2012 5:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
jscott418 wrote:

The problem is not so much guns because its the act itself we need to deal with. If their was no guns this person would have used something else. We need to find out what is causing these people to want to kill.
Otherwise normal albeit a bit strange but non violent people to go on a killing spree. Can you even begin to predict who will do this? You can take away the guns but will it stop the want? No it will not.

Dec 15, 2012 6:56am EST  --  Report as abuse

PKFA, what is wrong with you? Has too much Fox News completely brainwashed you into thinking that sharing and expressing ANY human emotion other than old, white man anger is unacceptable? OR is this really about that whole losing the election thing despite the four years of planning for it? There is nothing that can bring those kids back and not really a whole lot that can be done to prevent future events like this. Sometimes, you just have to blame the perpetrator of the crime and not the President.

Dec 15, 2012 7:31am EST  --  Report as abuse

victor672, religion divides people and teaches them to hate others who are unlike them. Read a history book or turn on the news and take off your blinders. Your bible encourages killing children.

Dec 15, 2012 7:36am EST  --  Report as abuse

Gun control serves only to protect the evil. Evil criminals, and evil politicians.

One pistol in the hands of a good person at the school could have lowered or even eliminated the body count.

Dec 15, 2012 7:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
Marcus_Cicero wrote:

The common theme in these tragedies is disturbed people (mostly young males) slipping thru the mental health crack and doing great harm. We need to focus on root causes here folks – not blame guns, conservatives, liberals, atheists or people of faith.

We can either make everyone paranoid, take away everyone’s right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or work on identifying how to identify and HELP disturbed people before they do tremendous harm.

Dec 15, 2012 8:28am EST  --  Report as abuse
Lorraineblum wrote:

What a great speaker and actor the president is. I am sure as a parent he felt bad but there was not a tear coming out of his eyes with all that drama of wiping something away, he has great speech writers and reads well. I would like to see some real action though. We need to address schizophrenia, not continue to ignore it and hope it goes away. The politicians and medical professionals get many gifts from the pharmaceutical companies who makes millions and probably billions a month on every schizophrenic medicine. My son’s cost $1700. Maybe that is why it is not healed here like it has been in Canada for over twenty years. Eliminate this disorder and save many lives, these senseless murders have to stop. The murderers are victims too.

Dec 15, 2012 8:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
thrdkllr wrote:

Although I can’t understand why the average Joe needs access to semi automatic rifles, I think this is more about the fact that we need better mental health care. When budgets need to be slashed, that always seems to be the first thing cut. When those that need professional help then commit a crime, they end up in jail, which is not the right place for them. As a society, we place such a stigma on needing psychological help, that people are sometimes too ashamed to admit they need care; and the friends and family of those that need care are too embarrassed to approach them. I’m glad the Cleveland Browns were helping that player get care, but I think they should have asked him for his gun while he was undergoing treatment. I’m not calling for gun bans, I’m taking my classes next month for my own permit, but we do need more/tighter regulations… a majority of NRA members agree (57%); however, we also need more education. Gun control is not the only piece of this puzzle. I just heard last night that America is fourth in the world for gun violence, after Columbia, Thailand, and a third that I can’t remember atm; how is that acceptable? The NRA leadership need to revisit their priorities.

Dec 15, 2012 8:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
PKFA wrote:

Amskeptic and Sayitaintso:
Yeah, call me a shallow, hard-hearted cynic. It took nanoseconds for a response from those with a gun control axe to grind, pro and con, led by pro. And where is the overwhelming outpouring of sympathy for, and offers to help, the victims and their families in the posts here? Rather, amateur psychologists and ideologues rule the day. So perhaps I may be forgiven for my interpretation of the actions of the Ideologue in Chief and his crocodile tears. Shallowness is a fact of modern American life.

Dec 15, 2012 9:05am EST  --  Report as abuse

obama urges solidarity? is he crazy? of course there will be solidarity, this was a tragedy beyond comprehension!

Dec 15, 2012 9:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
thrdkllr wrote:

Hey PKFA, shallowness is only a fact for shallow people, who I tend to not let in my life, which allows me to feel compassion. I feel bad for people that are so cynical about life that they think not caring is normal. I also feel bad for you, whether you want my compassion or not, because you’re so full of hatred for our President, that you cannot allow yourself to see him as a caring, sympathetic father. Instead, all you do is criticize POTUS and others, adding nothing to the conversation.

Dec 15, 2012 9:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
cautious123 wrote:

The problem of the most recent school shooting goes far beyond guns. This country has an ethos of violence, and every institution, from politics to media to entertainment, is responsible. We have a president who kills children daily with his drones, and who has taken upon himself the right to assassinate US citizens if he simply thinks they might be anti-American (no trial by jury or presumption of innocence allowed); we have an entertainment industry that makes billions off the violence it assaults our senses with daily; we have a “defense” industry that is the biggest money pit in history; and we have politicians who stand in front of the entire world and lie just to get us into more useless and unnecessary wars. In light of the death and destruction of families, lives and property that this country has wreaked throughout the world, do we really expect to evade the consequences of our violence?

Dec 15, 2012 9:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
sjfella wrote:

As this rat cage called Earth continues filling up the madness will only get worse. May all those poor souls rest in peace, if that’s possible.

Dec 15, 2012 10:03am EST  --  Report as abuse
Raelyn wrote:

The media, movies, television shows, video games, etc. all sponsor this sort of behavior — the more extreme the more they sell — add drugs to this mental barrage and you can see why it is not even safe to go to the grocery store anymore! Add the conservatives spewing hate and stalling everything in government, our country is in deep deep trouble..

Dec 15, 2012 11:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
AnotherNobody wrote:

I´ve read a lot of people proposing metal detectors in all building. Don´t people realize that the massacres will then take place in the parking lots…. If the government really wants to prevent this kind of thing in the future they should offer free treatment to people with severe psychological problems. There is a lot of people in the United States that are living day to day with untreated severe mental disorders because they cannot afford their treatment or medication.

Dec 15, 2012 1:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TexTide wrote:

a communist asking for “solidarity”…no one will believe that

Dec 15, 2012 2:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse

@judgebean Anyone that chooses to obtain their license to carry a firearm has thought twice about being in a situation when they would have to use it, so don’t go saying a person who chose to carry would not be able to handle the situation. It would come instict to any person, aspecialy someone who has thought about being in an emergency situation, to shoot the mental guy who is killing the most innocent of Americans. The focus should not be on more gun control, it should be on what we did as a nation to make people even think of doing something as messed up as this.

Dec 15, 2012 2:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
melvintres wrote:

The problem has nothing to do with guns. Unless you have had personal experience with mental illness do us all a favor quit indulging yourself here. This kid had Aspergers Syndrome and everyone who knew or met him said he was somewhere between weird and a very frightening kid, a time bomb. I am sure he was on several

Dec 15, 2012 4:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
melvintres wrote:

Oops!?!?!? — different medications, depression, anxiety, anti psychotic, etc. This stuff is a miracle to many people who would otherwise belong in mental institutions. These drugs alter your brain chemistry and in some cases like Zoloft, allow your brain to “heal”.
Your brain is constantly evolving. Like playing a sport the more you play and the better you get. Don’t even have to think about it anymore –

Dec 15, 2012 5:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SandyMac wrote:

The word solidarity should have been buried decades ago.

Dec 15, 2012 6:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dave70 wrote:

The only solidarity Obama is urging for is abolishing the second amendment of the Constitution.

No doubt he feels deep sorrow for the tragedy but he will make sure to twist the heartbreak of the heartbroken into a movement to change the constitution.

Dec 15, 2012 6:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Sonorama wrote:

Fr0ntSight, I want a better mental healthcare program and more cross-referencing when licenses are being doled out and guns sold.

Dec 15, 2012 9:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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