Israeli PM vows to build in Jerusalem despite criticism

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Butch_from_PA wrote:

Where does this nut read his history? In make believe land.
He is so deep into religion it is scary dangerous. His make believe land religion also wants an .

Nutty Yahoo’s goal in life is to make Armageddon – just so when he is killed he gets to sit as ruler of the slightly higher heaven apartment complex where he can watch below on other zealots running around with 100 virgins.

Dec 19, 2012 12:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Yes, Israel. That will help your situation. Poke the dog turd and hope for the best. That has worked so well for you in the past.

Dec 19, 2012 1:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
usagadfly wrote:

The first step for the USA is to publish a schedule for cutting off all of the hundreds and thousands of “preferences” (read, American tax money) for Israel if it does not show substantial progress in coming to an accommodation with its non-Jewish residents and neighbors. Why should Americans have their Food Stamps cut back to miserable levels so the money can be spent on high-dollar walled condo developments that stir up continued trouble in Israel / Palestine? This 1948 habit of the “Greatest” Generation needs to be stopped.

No progress, no money. Period.

Dec 19, 2012 1:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
floating_halo wrote:

Wow, so US govt. doesn’t have money to support poor, but pours money for this religious nut of leader to illegally occupy claiming it was theirs 3000 yrs ago? Should we all just claim what belonged to our ancestors in the stone age too?

Seriously? reprimanded? This is going to blow up in everyone’s face if something more than “reprimand” is not done. Israel is a problem child and definitely needs more than a stare to clam their sacks down

Dec 19, 2012 1:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Eric.Klein wrote:

If the “Palestinians” want Israel to stop building in its capital, then they need to do what President Abbas promised and return to the negotiation table without preconditions now that they have the UN GA rubber stamp. Once he negotiates final boarders there is nothing to stop either side building inside their boarders.

But to Fix some facts:

In 1967 Israel liberated half of Jerusalem from Jordanian occupation and ethnic cleansing. Jews had lived in that part of Jerusalem for over 3,000 years.

Palestinians are Jews who were born under the British Mandate (it says so in their birth certificate) the Arabs who are calling themselves Palestinians are misusing the name to confuse people.

US aide to Israel is the only aide that the US gives that pays the US back with jobs for Americans and technology for use by Americans (including the military). It is also the only aide going to a country that does not have people burning American flags, blowing up American bases, etc.

Dec 19, 2012 2:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

E Klein,
Who gives a crap about what Palestine and Israel want – the USA citizen do not want to support a never ending pit of destruction with our dollars – even if it fund jobs for weapons – which just happen to be used for killing instead of protecting.

British Mandate, biblical rights, missed opportunities with Arab nations – who really cares! Israelis and Palestinians right now occupy the same land – get along and stop bringing the world down with your stupid stubborn religious blood rights. The world has grown up and you have not – there is no such thing as a nation with only one kind of people. We all get along in most other countries.

If death and destruction reign down on you – you are causing this with your inability to get along.

Dec 19, 2012 3:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kehenalife wrote:

the israelis continue their “final solution” and take our money. cut off every dime we give these hypocritical facsists. they yell and scream about Iran getting the bomb when they have 200. Hagel was right… CUT THEM OFF NOW!

Dec 19, 2012 3:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Johnak wrote:

I will quit supporting Israel if anyone can name 5 Palestinian kings or presidents prior to Arafat< born in Egypt. Palestine is a geographical term, not a people.

Dec 19, 2012 3:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

While they are at it they might just as well build the Third Temple on the Temple Mount.

Dec 19, 2012 3:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Brazilian1 wrote:

VincentVery
Your comment is outrageous.

Dec 19, 2012 4:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VincentVery wrote:

Brazilian1

No friend, rape of Palestinian nation since 1967 funded by American taxpayer combined with wiping Israeli a$$es with international law, now THAT is outrageous.

Dec 19, 2012 5:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Time for Israel to get a job and quit living on charity.

Dec 19, 2012 5:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Johnak, who cares where Palestinians were born? Many Israeli nationals were born in Estonia and the Ukraine. They’re still Israelis now. No?

Dec 19, 2012 5:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

Can we stop the Israeli welfare now?
We are cutting help for Americans while giving Israel billions to steal land from, and murder its neighbors.
The USA is as guilty as Israel since we pay for it.
CUT OFF US TAX MONEY TO ISRAEL NOW!

Dec 19, 2012 5:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

“The Israeli government is the largest recipient of US financial aid in the world, receiving over one-third of total US aid to foreign countries, even though Israel’s population comprises just .001% of the world’s population, and has one the world’s higher per capita incomes.
Since 1949 the US has given Israel a total of $84,854,827,200. The interest costs born by US taxpayers on behalf of Israel are $49,937,000,000 – making the total amount of aid given to Israel since 1949 $134,791,507,200 (more than $134 billion).

Since 1992, the US has offered Israel an additional $2 billion in loan guarantees every year.”

STOP MONEY TO ISRAEL NOW.
That is my money and I want it to go to needy Americans, especially our veterans.

Dec 19, 2012 5:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
seymourfrogs wrote:

Mr Kelin writes “Jews had lived in that part of Jerusalem for over 3,000 years”

Jerusalem is certainly the Jewish city. But the Palestinians were there already (hence the attacks on Philistines from the time of the initial incursion).

It really doesn’t matter. The Palestinians will get their land back sooner or later. It should start with the North.

Dec 19, 2012 6:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Americanguy, you’re missing the point. The billions we send to Israel every year are dollars well-spent. It has helped to keep the middle east so peaceful over the past 40 years :)

Dec 19, 2012 6:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse

That’s how you do it BB!
My man is doin’ what needs to be done.

Dec 19, 2012 7:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JackVigdor wrote:

He reads his history from archaeology and for world history. Jerusalem HAS been the capital of a Jewish state for 3000 years. All the archaeological evidence proves it. Muslims and Arabs did not arrive in Jerusalem until they invaded in about 700 CE.

Dec 19, 2012 8:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JackVigdor wrote:

Arabs invaded Israel in 700 CE and forced the Jews who still lived there and who had remained after the Roman invasion to convert to Islam.

There never has been a Palestinian country with a capital in Jerusalem.

Dec 19, 2012 9:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

Eric_Klein – the argument that “Jews” have lived – anywhere – is not an argument that all people who claim they are “Jews” have an automatic right to anything they claim. The Israelis seem to nurse open-ended pretensions to territory that may never be satisfied.

You and the Israeli’s have a very lenient, blind and rather foolish definition of the “Will of God”. God is not in his heaven and all is definitely not right with the world.

You make the Taliban – as brutal and narrow-minded, as they are – look sane by comparison. They, at least, are Afghans who can claim the country as their legitimate home since time immemorial. Their religious influence may be pernicious (and growing) but they seem to have been satisfied with established boundaries. The Israelis, on the other hand, have nearly lost all spiritual and moral credibility, and substitute an appetite for real estate in its place.

Dec 19, 2012 9:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse

I think we are now actually seeing the Anti Christ come alive in Netanyahu, I think you jewish guys have garnered so much hatred worldwide that it could be irreversible. I’ve been reading the other blogs worldwide and they all are saying the same thing, utter disbeleif at the world’s inability to stop this collosal injustice.

Dec 19, 2012 9:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Dem4ever wrote:

Stealing Arab lands will not solve the problem, but complicate it. Israelis have lost their Ten Commandments.

Dec 19, 2012 9:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

History is repeating itself again. Why are the majority of the Jews letting themselves be led down this path of world scorn by a few religious nuts? Is this blind patriotism?

Have they not learned how far of the edge Germany got with this lack of will to stop the march to destruction?

The winds of change are coming and once the USA has the political will to cut the welfare line to Israel – no other country will step in to fill Big Brother’s shoes – and the second phase of history will repeat itself.

This is not antisemitism or a prophesy – it is the cold hard facts of life from looking at historical events.

Please – for the love of your people – bring in conciliatory leadership – throw out this stubborn religious outspoken leader of destruction before you the wailing walls turn into a river.

Dec 19, 2012 11:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
seymourfrogs wrote:

@JackVidour

“Arabs invaded Israel in 700 CE and forced the Jews who still lived there and who had remained after the Roman invasion to convert to Islam.”

Bizarre comment. Who does he think the “Philistines” were, living inconveniently in the way of conquerers like Joshua were.

Dec 20, 2012 12:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

JackVigdor wrote:
“Jerusalem HAS been the capital of a Jewish state for 3000 years.”

There was no Jewish state. The Jewish state stopped existing in 750BC when the Assyrians took over. Between then and 1948 Israel did not exist. There was no Israel. There was no Jewish state.

There was, in contrast, a land of Palestine.

Dec 20, 2012 1:20am EST  --  Report as abuse

Reading all the comments i get a feel that more than Palestine being occupied by Israel the real issue seems to be that:
“USA is under occupation by Israel”

Dec 20, 2012 1:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
johnnyboone wrote:

The world can not reason or negotiate with the right wing aparthaid government of Israel, how in the heck do we expect the powerless Palestinians to negotiate with him??????

Dec 20, 2012 1:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

Johnak wrote:
“I will quit supporting Israel if anyone can name 5 Palestinian kings or presidents prior to Arafat< born in Egypt.”

Caliph Umar, followed by the Ummayad Caliphs, followed by the Abassid Caliphs, followed by the Fatimid Dynasty, followed by Saljuqs.

That makes 5.

Then there were the Mamluks, followed by Muhammed Ali, and then his son Ibrahim Pasha.

Now your turn: Name 5 Israeli kings or presidents prior to 1948.

Dec 20, 2012 3:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

1. Saul
2. Ishbaal
3. David
4. Solomon
5. Rehoboam

Then there was the “King of Kings”

INRI:

“Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Jews”

Dec 20, 2012 9:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

@Harry078 – “INRI” was a form of Roman sarcasm. It’s also a title Jesus never actually accepted.

Dec 20, 2012 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Harry079

Saul, David, and Solomon were kings of the United Monarchy. Israel didn’t exist until the United Monarchy split into Judah and Israel in 928BC

Dec 20, 2012 11:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

So what did they call their Nation back then, United Monarchy or Kingdom of Israel?

From Wiki: David succeeded in truly unifying the Israelite tribes, and set up a monarchical government. He embarked on successful military campaigns against Israel’s enemies, and defeated nearby regional entities such as the Philistines, thus creating secure borders for Israel. Under David, Israel grew into a regional power. Under the House of David, the united Kingdom of Israel achieved prosperity and superiority over its neighbours.

Dec 20, 2012 1:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

Whatever they called it, it wasn’t either of your suggestions because they didn’t speak English…

I see that you chose to ignore that ‘this article has multiple issues’ warning at the top of your Wiki page. We all know that Zionists like to pretend that the United Monarchy was Israel, and then when it split apart the northern part was still Israel, and then when the Romans arrived and called it Judah, the southern part became Israel.

They do this to avoid reality. Historic Israel (in contrast to the fictitious Zionist Israel) was an insignificant little country that lasted less than two hundred years, disappeared in 720BC, and simply didn’t exist for the next 2,700 years or so. If there was ever a country that was ‘invented’ with no historic existence, it is Israel.

Dec 20, 2012 9:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

Speaking of reality the fact is that the nation State of Israel exists today. They land they hold was gained either through mandate or war.

Look at any modern map and show me where Palestine is.

Dec 20, 2012 11:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Harry079

Google ‘Partition Plan’ and learn something…

You will find, in Part one: “3. Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem, set forth in part III of this plan, shall come into existence in Palestine two months after the evacuation of the armed forces of the mandatory Power has been completed but in any case not later than 1 October 1948. The boundaries of the Arab State, the Jewish State, and the City of Jerusalem shall be as described in parts II and III below.”

Let me explain it to you. The UN, when it created the Jewish state, also created the Arab state… the same one that you are pretending doesn’t exist and never did. Note that it says “shall come into existence in Palestine” Can you see where it says “in Palestine”? The only way that can be true is if Palestine already existed at the time of writing. In other words, when this was written Palestine existed and Israel didn’t. That sinks your argument…

You will also find, in section 5, a detailed description of exactly where those boundaries are.

Now, get a map. Compare the boundaries laid out by the UN, and the boundaries now. The difference is Palestinian land being illegally occupied by Israel. Illegaly, because your Neanderthal notion of ‘might is right’ is no longer legal and hasn’t been for around 100 years.

Dec 21, 2012 12:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

I guess the Arabs didn’t like the Partition Plan and therefore after a series of wars ended up with the short end of the stick.

If they accepted the plan and recognized Israel there would be a Palistine today.

They rolled the dice and got snake eyes.

Dec 21, 2012 9:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

Territory obtained by force is illegally held. That should be an easy concept to understand. In simple terms you might understand, any country (Including Israel. Israelis are not above the law.) has a right to defend its borders. No country has a right to expand those borders through war.

Palestine does recognise Israel. Saying they don’t is a flat out lie. The *only* obstruction to peace is the illegally occupied territory held by Israel, and Israel’s refusal to return it or stop building illegal settlements on it is a clear indication that Israel does not want peace.

Dec 21, 2012 11:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
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