NRA calls for armed school guards as U.S. mourns massacre

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Yankee1776 wrote:

This comment speaks volumes about the ignorance of the anti-gun lobbyists:

“They were blaming it on all kinds of other things instead of guns themselves,” said Medea Benjamin, co-director of women’s peace group Code Pink, who was escorted out of the briefing after holding up a poster that read “NRA blood on your hands.”

These same extremists who believe that guns are sentient and self animated and objects with the ability to control a person in possession of them are first in line to see the prosecution of an individual for vehicular homicide who is responsible for the death of another while driving an automobile.

Guns are no more responsible for the death of an individual than an automobile. Only sentient beings with self determination can use a gun for violent purposes. Quit focusing on the tool used to cause death and/or inflict harm and focus on the root cause of the problem, the people who use them for such purposes.

Dec 22, 2012 5:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
CleanFun wrote:

The NRA cunningly put the ball in your president’s court. They wrote a blank check for the purpose of developing national school security measures, as well as offered their vast expertise for the purpose of training. They even went as far as offering plans for building design.

After the NRA’s generous proposal, there’s no excuse for your president to not implement school security measures. So, if & when there’s another school shooting, the blame can be placed firmly on your president for failing to accept tried & true solutions.

Dec 22, 2012 6:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
dirtdauber wrote:

you are quite right yankee1776. lapierre is right but that will not keep the dumbocrats from screaming. have you noticed how they all get so angry? perplexing. we guard our politicians, we guard our banks, we guard our courthouses, we guard our borders (a little bit) and we guard these kids as they cross the street. here is a chance to create over 100,000 new jobs for vets and other qualified individuals and keep our kids safe. no one can totally stop or predict these acts but we can certainly be better prepared. how many bad guys are going to attack a school with an armed guard? these cowards will go somewhere else. Merry CHRISTmas to all!

Dec 22, 2012 7:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
jeff81201 wrote:

Wow, they want us to be like a 3rd world nation, with armed forces on every corner standing guard. What a bizarre and disturbing vision of how our nation should be. Sell millions of assault rifles so that lunatics can grab them from their mothers or buy them at the store, and then arm millions more people with assault rifles to protect us from the loonies. Wow, that’s societal success!

The NRA is embarrassing our nation. They have taken us into lunacy. I remember them as a sportsmen’s organization way back when teaching hunting integrity and good marksmanship and gun safety. I don’t know when they devolved into a group of bizarre paranoid gun nuts, but that’s certainly what they have become.

Dec 22, 2012 9:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
Carmi wrote:

There are millions of assault type weapons already produced and in the hands of gun owners, gun shop owners, and in warehouses. Banning the weapons would likely only affect future purchase. Maybe we do need all these armed guards the NRA is proposing. A heavy new tax to pay for the armed guards levied on those people owning the guns and companies that produce or have produced these weapons seems logical to me. There should also be a heavy new tax on ammunition for these weapons. The NRA should also shoulder some of the burden for these new guards since they are promot

Dec 22, 2012 9:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
Yankee1776 wrote:

Here is an article that articulates the problem, then absolutely denies what is presented.

http://www.salon.com/2012/03/30/philadelphias_grim_killing_spree/

Here is a quote:

“One grim facet of the Philadelphia murder statistics may help provide a clue to the answer. Victims and killers alike were overwhelmingly young males.

“Forty percent of the killers arrested in 2011 were males between the ages of 18-24, with 22 percent in the next oldest category, from age 25-34. Murder victims showed a similar demographic, with the great majority young males.

“The vast majority of violent crimes are committed by a tiny fraction of the population,’’ adds PPD spokesman Lt. Ray Evers, noting that some 80 percent of the perpetrators and victims have “records of multiple convictions for violent crimes.”

If any person who wants to really understand the problem, there is plenty of research available.

The overwhelming majority of homicides using firearms are directly related to gangs and drugs. These individuals acquire guns in the same way they acquire their drugs, they do it illegally.

The majority of the drugs sold illegally in this country are smuggled into the country. If we create the same type of law with regard to guns, these criminals will smuggle them in illegally the very same way they smuggle in their illegal drugs.

Dec 22, 2012 9:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
CMEBARK wrote:

I propose we tax every gun owner $200 per gun per year to finance putting an armed red neck Republican Tea Party in all the schools. Not only would this raise $, but we would then know where all these idiots are.

Dec 22, 2012 10:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
Acetracy wrote:

Well it seems the NRA lobby has its minions writing comments even on Reuters. What none of these comments admit is how the NRA is a the lobby for the arms industry which is making $billions selling guns, assault rifles, ammunition not only to our gullible paranoid nation but increasingly to third world dictators, drug lords and terrorists. Why isn’t the NRA and all the gun enthusiasts proposing methods to stop the illegal sales? Because it is all about making money – not safety, not rights – money.

The absurd idea that the Constitution protects all firearms is ludicrous. Not a single firearm at the time of the writing of the Constitution could do multiple rounds, instead loading a gun to quite a long time – certainly enough time for someone to think about the consequence of their actions.

THe idea that grade school children would pass armed guards supplied by the NRA seems more like something out of Cuba, Nicaragua or Somalia than the USA. If we start here at schools, then soon we will have paid private armies roaming our streets, much as you see in Syria and Afghanistan.

In the aftermath of this latest horrible massacre, the only ones clearly benefiting are the arms merchants – assault weapons sold out at Walmart and elsewhere.

THe hypocrites that talk about protecting our freedoms, children and society with armed guards should go live in countries ruled buy terrorist regimes where armed militias is a way of life. I am sure after a few months, if they are still alive, they would see the fallacy of their gun toting doctrines.

Dec 22, 2012 10:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
RoyalBlue777 wrote:

Now we are going to see what the motives of the anti-gun crowd is. Anybody with any reasoning at all knows an armed guard in every school would make our schools infinately safer. To not acknowledge that or change the debate is either ignorant or dis-honest.

Dec 22, 2012 10:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
RoyalBlue777 wrote:

Acetracy, you have addressed everything but what is the best way to keep our children safe.

Dec 22, 2012 11:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

Parents who failed(too busy) to teach their kids morals and decision making skills are the real culprits.
We cannot change that, as we can’t change Russia. Alarmists, racists and pacifists are just that.
For once the NRA has it right! NYC has had plain clothes cops in their schools for DECADES! No mass shootings or riots there. Hello?

Dec 22, 2012 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

@Acetracy – “What none of these comments admit is how the NRA is a the lobby for the arms industry which is making $billions selling guns, assault rifles, ammunition not only to our gullible paranoid nation but increasingly to third world dictators, drug lords and terrorists. Why isn’t the NRA and all the gun enthusiasts proposing methods to stop the illegal sales?”
The NRA does not like Illigal guns, as that threatens law abiding citizens as yankee pointed out. Do you have any proof other then wild accussations that the NRA is providing weapons to Terrorist? Im pretty Sure Russia’s AK-47 has them beat, not to mention our own goverment. The NRA spends Millions (remember the NRA is a group, not a gun manifacturer) defending my Rights, my Saftey and i dont expect them to do it for free.

“The absurd idea that the Constitution protects all firearms is ludicrous. Not a single firearm at the time of the writing of the Constitution could do multiple rounds, instead loading a gun to quite a long time – certainly enough time for someone to think about the consequence of their actions.”
The Supreme court did not find it absurd as they defended it,

“THe idea that grade school children would pass armed guards supplied by the NRA seems more like something out of Cuba, Nicaragua or Somalia than the USA. If we start here at schools, then soon we will have paid private armies roaming our streets, much as you see in Syria and Afghanistan”
Despite what some liberal media is reporting, the NRA wanted Police officers, Not Armed NRA Guards…theres no such thing

“In the aftermath of this latest horrible massacre, the only ones clearly benefiting are the arms merchants – assault weapons sold out at Walmart and elsewhere. ” You clearly dont know anything about guns, so honestly i dont expect you to know anything about this. So everytime one of these shootings happened, you get the gun control crowd crying “Ban guns! Wahhh!”, the Gun owners see that, get scared, and go into a buying frenzy out of fear that gun may be banned soon. Meanwhile the Gun store owner sees on TV a horrible shooting, Worries that his business is now in danger (if guns get banned, hes out of a job, cant support the family), so the next day there worrying about how the shooting my effect gun politics while there busy running around trying to help ton of frenzied customers.

“THe hypocrites that talk about protecting our freedoms, children and society with armed guards should go live in countries ruled buy terrorist regimes where armed militias is a way of life” Thats as bad as saying African Americans should go back to Africa. Maybe not as bad, but still. In America, Mexico, Norway, China, Russia, and who knows how many in the middle East, Schools/Camps have been targeted by Sick People. Even if you banned Semi-auto Rifles, Rifles in general don’t make up for more then 20% of murders (and thats a very Kind number), Pistols are used in murders the most. Banning Semi-auto Rifles won’t stop a massacre, and its very navie to think so, unless your part of the gun control crowd that believes this is the frist of many steps to get all guns banned, although it still won’t do much good. Man in China slashed a bunch of kids. Whats stopping someone from doing that here? A police Officer would. Heres a fun Fact, Newtown Police department took 10-12 minutes to get to the school despite the fact the School and police department are 8 minutes away, Knowing that, i don’t think its un-reasnable to consider have police officers at schools. I live in Newtown btw.

In a country where tabbaco, fast food, doctors, achohol, cars kill more people then guns, and im suprised were considering banning guns and stomping on the rights of millions of law abiding citizens.

Dec 22, 2012 11:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

Honestly, Nancy Lanza had a Violent, mentally ill son whom went after her with a knife. Under CT law your required to lock up your guns at that point. Instead, it appears she gave her son a few thousand dollars to stockpile 500+ rounds of Hollowpoints( this is an assuption, The hollowpoints were not hers, and i don’t see how a mentall ill kid could have that money).

We need to stop worrying about “assault bans” and worry about being proper parents. Don’t buy your 9yr old a M-rated game, dont let them see R-rated movies, and take an active part in there life, dont let the TV raise them. The Goverment needs to start programs back up to help the mentally ill. Theres no facilities to help them anymore. Farield Hills, in Newtown, was a closed years ago but they could have helped Adam lanza. Also i thinks its time but secruity in all schools. We have guards defending Rich people’s money at the bank, so why no the same protection for the little ones? There worth it, Right?

One last thing,
Acetary “The absurd idea that the Constitution protects all firearms is ludicrous”, And it doesn’t. Theres plenty of weapons that are banned. Notice how you don’t see Full Automatic rifles.

Dec 22, 2012 11:38am EST  --  Report as abuse

More Importantly for the NRA to purposefully add stigma to the diagnosed Asperger’s people of the nation with mental illness, and equate people mental illness with evil is absolutely unconscionable in this day and 21st century.

That is purely a HATE CRIME perpetuated by the NRA to refute any and all responsibility for its toy of pleasure which it has repeatedly absolved from death in the past with kicking the can of blame to people in as much the cigarette has never been accountable for any death nor are the makers responsible for false advertising which they lost in the lawsuits!! SUE THE NRA WITH THE CASE LAW USED FOR CIGARETTE MAKERS and TAKE THE GUN MAKERS THRU THE SAME PROCESS!!! FALSE ADVERTISING THAT SAYS GUNS DON’T KILL_PEOPLE KILL IS FALSE NEEDS TO STOP AS IT IS EVIL

Dec 22, 2012 12:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Gigimoderate wrote:

Putting armed guards in schools is a good idea…alot of schools already have them! Not a new idea!
The NRA’s idea is BUY BUY BUY more guns, GREEDY bas$$$$ds! Not sure why any sane person thinks its okay to arm citizens with Assault Weapons or Semi automatic weapons with the Only design of these weapons is to cause mass death to people! 6 of the last 12 most deadly mass shootings were since 2007! We make up 5% of the worlds population and own 50% of the guns. Good marketing

Dec 22, 2012 1:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AndrewBinga wrote:

Mexico has a gun BAN for citizens yet they have a gun homicide rate 4 times higher than the US.

When you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns

Dec 22, 2012 1:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ccharles wrote:

AS far as security goes they are acting like this is a new problem and they dont know how to handle it…. I think this is all for drama.

We have courthouses that once upon a time had a violence problem… what did they do? They secured every… and i mean EVERY court house… they didnt arm the prosecutors or judges, or purpose silly laws. How can we do anyless for our children?

Im glad my kids are out of school now, 3-4 years now. Even back then i was worried. They even had school security, but in the end, everytime stuff jumped off they was more interested in pushing the fact that they was not responsible for the events that sent children to hospitols and there was nothing they could do. They would even LIE to push the fact that they was NOT responsible… and guess what, its against the law to dispute them. This is what has to change… someone has to be made reponsible… and held to it.

Dec 23, 2012 9:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
PenRumi wrote:

The best solution is to arm all the kids in schools. Not.

Dec 23, 2012 2:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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