Death of India rape victim stirs anger, promises of action

What these savages committed was murder and they deserve the death penalty.

Sad, the 6 should be considered a gang.
Murderers / rapists.
SHAME!

Gang banging racists who bash/rape their victims must be publicly flogged and deported to a jungle where they will receive no mercy. Opposition to this suggestion comes from friends of the nocturnal gangs that prowl the streets after dark searching for a victim. Unless these criminals are deported, most of nightlife will be ended in America.

Find the culprits; this is murder. A woman minding her own business … and this?! Where is the law? This is a shameful day for India.

It’s a shame that women are so debased in both Hindu and Muslim cultures. You should be ashamed. And the woman died today, will the killers and rapists be put down as well? Somehow I doubt that. What a primitive culture.

@moetheshmo This actually happened in India by Indian men. It wasn’t a racist crime it was a sexist crime.

But I do have to say that this is truly horrible but this in other horrid crimes against women take place every day in India. More so than here. I guess this can explain why they leave and come here. There’s crime here but nothing as bad as what takes place in many parts of India.

The tragedy is not that there are animals that conduct themselves like animals. The real tragedy is that this type of behavior has been allowed to go uncontrolled for so long. The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good people to look the other way. I’ve spent a long time in south Asia, and though people there are generally good, the society and culture itself is dark and ignorant. They bring this evil onto themselves.

moetheshmo wrote:
Gang banging racists who bash/rape their victims must be publicly flogged and deported to a jungle where they will receive no mercy. Opposition to this suggestion comes from friends of the nocturnal gangs that prowl the streets after dark searching for a victim. Unless these criminals are deported, most of nightlife will be ended in America
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You need emergency mental heath care. You are as sick as those you speak about. Deranged ranting about racists shows how disconnected, depraved and scary you are. Stay away from weapons, please.

A rapist is a rapist is a rapist–racist or not.

Capital punishment is legal, but rare, in India. This highly-charged rape and murder of an Indian girl deserves capital punishment of the murderers. India has a first-class citizenry with perhaps third-class leadership and governance. Indians may like to demand as such, and they perhaps won’t like sobbing statesmen who offer sympathy only as we’ve seen as such in the United States recently. Governments shouldn’t exist that only preside over corruption and inept in curbing criminality. We hope that the English-speaking young Indians hit the streets and won’t get back without materializing their demands.

@eddiek ok eddie thanks for turning this into a religous issue. i think rape and women being debased is a very common issue today all over the world. here in the usa a rape happens every 2 minutes…in india every 20 mins. my point is rape and women rights is an issue that needs to be addressed all over the world.

“We are very sad to report that the patient passed away peacefully at 4:45 a.m. on Dec 29, 2012 (2045 GMT Friday).”

How can her soul die peacefully as culprits still out living normal life…

A bright young women with a giving spirit (medical student) and her whole life ahead of her is brutalized by this vermin!
I wished society would quit trying to “understand” such violent scum and simply execute the perpetrators…and with a very limited number of appeals. Its time we think about victims, and potential victims, rather than perpetrators.

A bright young spirit, a medical student with a desire to help others is cut down savagely in her early prime. May she again live more fully in another life. I am so sorry for her and her loved ones!

Deepest condolences to the parents, these savages must be given the death penalty. Punjab and N. Delhi is plagued with these kind of stories on a daily basis, the corrupt police officials turn the other way on every occasion. It’s the whole system that has to be overhauled corruption is in the DNA of every Indianh politician.
All tourist must be very very careful when travelling to these regions it’s a lawless place, and Agra is just a tourist trap, not worth the road trip to see the Taj Mahal.

Shameful day for all indians – no NOBEL PRIZE can compensate this incident nor glorious past….just shame.

despite 65 years of freedom – a democracy and a political systems could not protect a women – just because bureacratic sycophants under the roofs…. poor lady… condolences.to the family .if you have girl child think again of rapist around you in the society roaming scot freely for search of another victim .. suggest better provide better solution yourselves and not systems…as it is not working dont waste time.

Yes Agra is a horrible tourist trap. But I can never forget the basic kindness and civility of the Indian people as a whole, nor their optimistism – smiling, laughing almost defiantly in the face of everyday adversity…this was in the 1980s. I do not think anyone who has travelled to India with an open heart and mind, can fail to be entranced by the place and its diverse peoples, even though there are the dangers you mention, and the injustices. So one’s thoughts and best wishes are with the ordinary Indian folks, may their government and officialdom come up to the mark, tho’ they are somewhat short of it at the moment. The huge anti-corruption campaign going on now is another positive step in the right direction.

It is a sad day for humanity. What are Indian men going to do now
let this poor girl die in vain.Dont you have a MOTHER.
ACT FOR YOUR MOTHER’S SAKE.

Rape is invalidating; they need to name the victim. It’s painful, but India must identify her.
Own it. And change. Until then, no woman is safe in India.

When Bollywood’s image of women changes, so goes the nation. Until then, no woman is truly safe in India, alas.

It’s not easy being a woman in todays world. The murder, rape & beating of this woman is horrible, India is notorious for it’s mysoginistic treatment of women, but women are treated badly all over the world. What happened? How did women become garbage? They give birth to these murderous men? Who is telling them to treat women like this? Their fathers? I just do not understand. It is so animalistic & sad.

The nation of India can never restore her precious life back to this young martyr the Indian media have come to call, “Amanat”, an Urdu word meaning “treasure”.

But “Amanat’s” death can have meaning if the nation of India finally starts to confront its own demons and its own societal and cultural failings and takes all the hard, difficult and necessary steps to re-educate its one billion citizens, starting from Kindergarten classes in every school in India, and continuing straight through required courses in college, that “a good woman’s worth is above Rubies”.

And furthermore, that not only is every man in India obligated to protect India’s gentler sex but should any man dare to injure, misuse, mistreat or violate, in any manner, shape or form, any woman anywhere in India, he will find himself on the receiving end of the long reach of India’s harshest laws, passed and intended to protect the rights and safety of the women of India.

In the last days I had hoped and prayed with all my soul and being that a miracle would come to pass and that “Amanat” would somehow overcome her massive injuries and survive in order to fulfill all her Earthly gifts and promise.

It is difficult to accept that such a Miracle could not or would not, be forthcoming from Heaven during this Christmas week which above all things is supposed to signify the idea of Miracles.

Like the rest of the world, my heart is heavy with a sadness too deep to explain. And too painful to express with any human words one can conjure up or even imagine.

Only by observing that India will now, finally, at long last, start to change and begin to value and protect its precious women, can I hope to ameliorate the limitless sorrow that now overwhelms me personally as well as all of us.

Rest in Peace, in Eternity, Amanat. Know that we will never forget you and that one day we will be with you again, in a better place and in a better time.

They should receive the death sentence and a swift execution. We also need the same thing here in the US, no more 30 years on death row, one appeal post trial and executed within 6 months.

If you spot someone who looks odd or out of place snap their picture, thousands of criminals have been apprehended thanks to alert citizens. Do not be frightened; clear pic`s can be snapped without the stranger knowing they are on camera. A special medal plus a new cellphone should be rewarded to the Good Samaritan whose photo led to the arrest of that oddball.

LynCe:
I have to totally agree with you. So far, this has been very impersonal for most of us. We need to see the face of this poor girl. We need her name so we can personalize the deed. We need the names and faces of the alleged perpetrators, otherwise it’s just another crime reported on the Internet.

We need to feel that this could be our daughter, sister, mother, spouse. Only when we walk in those shoes will this “shameful social attitude” end.

The “riots” should happen inside your own hearts.
That is where the violence began.

I speak to the women of India and the world. I have thought of this most of my life. (I was in the women’s movement here in the USA in the 1960′s.) You are the source of cultural change. You raise the children. Teach your boys kindness. Teach your girls self respect and courage. On the street, yell “rapist” if someone molests you, however slightly. Tell someone about it. Recognize your power and use it. If your man is being hateful, stay away from him. Don’t try to make his mood better. When he is loving, give him lots of love. You are the primary source of love. You raise the children. You will see progress in a generation.

Men of India, for now you have to protect your women and girls. Please do so in a public and visible manner. You can best determine how to do this and show your maturity and ingenuity in the process. Above all, do it in a loving way.

You have my hopes, thoughts and prayers.

There is a school of thought, “Rape is not about sex it is about power”. With that in mind I wonder why it took 6 brutal animals to bring one defenseless woman under their power. It does not. This is not about sex, power, politics (Fillybuster), violence (aninonymous), or murder (squeeze). aninonymous was close, “The “riots” should happen inside your own hearts.” but not quite there yet. It is about EVIL. And until we address that, in all it’s forms, and quit putting all these other labels on it-we lose. And aninonymous, a riotous heart will only bread more evil.

The ONLY answer? We have turned our back on it, and denied His existence. After all we know better than Him how to fix this. Again-we lose.

There should be no “need” to understand why these criminals committed this crime. There SHOULD BE A NEED to stop this from happening again. These criminals and every criminal who commits rape, should be punished publicly and severely. This way they will taste the pain that they caused and will be scared for life as their victim, as well as the shame of the crime that they did will be with them every where they go.
In this case, they are MURDERERS and they should be executed for their crime, let it be a lesson to future criminals.

>>”The need of the hour is a dispassionate debate and inquiry into the critical changes that are required in societal attitudes,” Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

This is the heart of the problem. No debate is required. If he thinks debate is required, he’s part of the problem, not the solution.

I am not talking about sex and politics. I was talking about LOVE, love for yourself and others. I was talking about power. The powerless need to know about how to use their inherent power to change their world and their culture. Everyone has the power to do good.

The guys involved in the gang rape act should be incarcerated before they face the death penalty. They are dangerous to the poublic and to women especiaaly. I think a law should be in place to incrcerate any future rape cases.

Fillybuster
Not without God.

Don’t kill them!!!! Rape them every single day until they die of old age!!! Torture them as well!!!

This has changed the stereotypical view I had of Indians such as Apoo down at the quickie mart, or the Indian engineers I used to work with, or that college calculus professor I had. Maybe this is what happens when you have an overcrowded country and conditions such as India’s.

May she become a martyr for the cause of women in India — and throughout the world — who are victims of violence and oppression so that her death is not in vain. RIP

Sad affair for India. This occurs to over 200,000 Americans, 80,000 are children. Maybe we exported violence along with our jobs.

Pretty amazing the impunity of this. In a public place where they threw the victim out without killing her – meaning they fully expected to get away with this – her not saying anything.

If this is the feeling/mood for this in New Delhi – image the extent of this that goes on in schools, alleys, social visits or anyplace where a woman is vulnerable to this kind of attack.

You can blame it on Bollywood or the Western influence or whatever you want, however if this was a harshly punished crime – it would be dramatically stopped. Must still be a very patriarchal caste society in India.

I really thought India was much better at recognizing women as human beings.

Shame, shame on the India government for failing to address it’s social needs.

Yes, it is indeed a tragic moment for the whole humanity. One thought that I had was of the very many goddesses which are worshiped in Hinduism, like Shiva, Shakti, Kali…and all the increadibly beautiful sculptures and paintings depicting these female deities. And I cannot help asking myself: how is it possible that a culture which worshipes these goddesses can turn so violent and hateful against women?

It would be a beautiful gesture if some well respected jewelry company such as Tiffany or Cartier would design a simple necklace with a ruby colored stone to be named “Amanat” in her memory.

It would be clearly understood that 100 % of the proceeds would go directly to the family of this tragic victim.

No amount of money can compensate for such human loss or bring Amanat back to us but at least these proceeds would allow her family to protect and educate their other children whilst setting up a Foundation to honor and perpetuate their daughter’s precious memory.

As well, the funds could be utilised to help initiate sorely needed education programs throughout India regarding violence against women.

I would be the first to purchase such a necklace for my Mother and three Sisters. And I would wear such a necklace myself as a reminder to all the world that this cycle of evil perpetrated by the men of India and elsewhere must finally come to an end once and for all.

Educating of India’s hundreds of millions of citizens must become established practice in every school in India immediately beginning with the smallest children.

“As the tenderest branch is bent – so grows the tree”.

Rest in Peace, Amanat. Know that you are not forgotten and that from your sacrifice, Change will come to India.

Please be sure to slaughter the pigs that committed or enabled this crime.

@Reuters1945
You remind me of every liberal I’ve ever known. There seems to be no end to the good you want to do with other people’s money.

@Shamizar who wrote:

“You remind me of every liberal I’ve ever known. There seems to be no end to the good you want to do with other people’s money”.
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And you sir, remind me of people who can either not correctly read what is put before their eyes or simply interpret facts through the prism of their own engrained prejudices. In your case, perhaps, both.

If you really did read my comment carefully, you would know that I clearly stated that I would wish to be among the first to contribute financially to assisting the family of the latest innocent victim of violence perpetrated against women by purchasing some form of memento designed in her honor.

All the ‘liberals’ I know have always been ready to put their hard earned money where their mouth is before asking others to do so.

I cannot say the same for all the ‘conservatives’ I know although I am the first to concede that generalizing is always both dangerous and foolish. One can obviously find exceptions in either group.

Interesting, in any case, that your comment focuses on categorizing other human beings rather than on this tragic victim of unadulterated violence and what, if anything, can be done to help the victim’s family whilst finding ways to end the circle of violence against women.

Frankly, I feel very sorry for you. Perhaps, other readers share my point of view.

I like you “Reuters1945″!

“Sharmizar”, I bet you never miss a chance to put someone down.

Many rapes, notably those committed by the rich and influential, are not reported. They have been either squashed quietly, settled with a pittance, or just ignored. Victims from poor families or low caste are forced to hide in a corner in isolation for life. Some die of intense shock or inner injury, some commit suicide. What a disgusting world.
(mtd1943)

@Fillybuster

Thanks for your remark Fillybuster.

I was likewise very impressed by your comment which was so well said. One of the most intelligent and sensitive I have read thus far regarding the recent tragedy in India.
(I was also involved in that ‘movement’ you spoke of.)

Perhaps, judging from your tag name, “Fillybuster”, you work with and train young horses, something that requires infinite patience and sensitivity.

In any case your comment, attached below, is well worth re-quoting here:

Fillybuster wrote:

“I speak to the women of India and the world. I have thought of this most of my life. (I was in the women’s movement here in the USA in the 1960′s.) You are the source of cultural change. You raise the children. Teach your boys kindness. Teach your girls self respect and courage. On the street, yell “rapist” if someone molests you, however slightly. Tell someone about it. Recognize your power and use it. If your man is being hateful, stay away from him. Don’t try to make his mood better. When he is loving, give him lots of love. You are the primary source of love. You raise the children. You will see progress in a generation”.

“Men of India, for now you have to protect your women and girls. Please do so in a public and visible manner. You can best determine how to do this and show your maturity and ingenuity in the process. Above all, do it in a loving way”.

“You have my hopes, thoughts and prayers”.

That’s what happened in the biggest democracy, funny thing!

This is a quote from an article on the Connecticut tragedy.
I’m trying to wrap my head around how anyone in India can comment on the violence in America…

“It takes no great deductive genius to understand the link: a violent individual with a gun will be more able to kill, and can kill more people, than a violent individual without a gun. Elsewhere in the world, tighter gun laws have been shown to save lives,” said an editorial in India’s The Hindu newspaper.

Violence is violence. Many men horrible violence or one man and horrible violence. There is no excuse, blame or reasoning that justifies these or any actions like them.