Immigration, economic revival head Obama's second-term checklist

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AdamSmith wrote:

Immigration reform?

There are giant cities all over the world, not just in Mexico or China, brimming with impoverished people and wealthy people, both.

All of them, both the impoverished foreigner and the rich foreigner, are being allowed free access to come to America and have their way with it. The only precedent would be the fall of Rome.

Impoverished immigrants, accustomed to living in slums of giant foreign cities, and the huts foreign farming villages, are flooding into America, willing to work for any wage, and thus driving down American wages. This is destroying the American middle class.

Rents – Especially damaging to Americans is the fact that large-scale immigration into the US from China, Mexico, India, Indonesia, and every impoverished country, has sharply driven up American apartment rents, adding more and more distress to American middle class renters.

But the influx of poor immigrants is only part of the story. The wealthy classes from the same foreign countries (literally all foreign countries, including China) are bringing their often ill-gotten wealth to America and buying up American real estate at an unprecedented rate.

Millions of foreigners — Mexican, Chinese, Indian and others — are buying not just Manhattan and Miami trophy condominiums, but small properties on, literally, almost every corner in every city and town in America. It is lawlessness.

In whose interest are we governed?

Dec 30, 2012 5:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

Immigration reform and gun control are going to be two policies that will cost the Democrats in 2014. Have they learned nothing from the past 20 years?

Dec 30, 2012 6:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
usagadfly wrote:

How about stopping, completely halting military and para-military activities in the Middle East?? We are approaching our 12th year of war in Afghanistan, having accomplished very, very little at an enormous price. And then there is Iraq. The American people want out of the region.

Nothing short of total withdrawal and the dismantling of our country’s offensive military capability is acceptable. Administration after administration has demonstrated their inability to resist military Imperialism and aggressive war. If the capability is retained, someone will use it against the will of the American people, while claiming it is “America’s” military. America’s military does not wage war when 80% of the people are against it. It is AIPAC’s military, the “foreign legion” part of Israel’s strategy. Stop it now. Get out. Disarm. Create mechanisms so powerful that the President cannot use the military again without the backing of the people.

The only thing immigration reform has ever accomplished has been to provide legal documentation, post facto, to illegal immigrants. Period. You might as well open the borders. Get us out of the Middle East for good, and make it impossible to wage war without the consent of the public as a whole. Do something that will bring peace to this country after half a century of one war after another.

Dec 30, 2012 7:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@usagadfly

I completely agree. That would be a great place to start working on balancing the budget. US interventionalism since WW2 has gotten us what? The only thing I see that we have won with our intervening in all of the world’s affairs is a globe that hates the US, and allies that depend on the US for their defense while we go bankrupt.

Dec 30, 2012 9:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

TheNewWorld: I partially agree with you, but not fully. Most people who voted for Obama in this last election want him to do something about immigration and guns. He won’t be able to get much done with guns. Maybe reinstate the ban on assault rifles, but little more. The gun problem will get worse, much worse. With immigration, it depends on what is proposed, but I suspect the Republicans will try to stop anything he proposes because that’s all they care about doing. They no longer respect our democratic principles. We either do what they want or they put their efforts into obstructing. There are signs that the American people are growing tired of their attack on those principles. All they care about doing is reducing taxes, doing away with industry regulations, and reducing the size of government–all policy positions dictated to them by a cadre of industry leaders who pay Republicans to demand those positions for the primary purpose of increasing industry profits. Yes, the Democrats are in on it too, but these plutocrats have hitched their fortunes to the Republican Party most likely because their constituents are less likely to think for themselves and figure out what’s really going on.

The Republicans have been masterful in preventing the government from tackling issues that need to be dealt with, such as immigration and guns. We have a problem in this country with illegal immigrants. We have a problem in this country with gun violence. We have a problem in this country with access to affordable healthcare. And we have a whole host of other problems that need to be confronted. We can dicker over the best approach to take, but the problem with Republicans is that they never want to do anything except steer clear of these many issues that need confronting. Then when the Democrats do the hard but responsible task of taking them on, the Republicans attack. It’s a major problem with our government, and a big reason why so little gets done.

Healthcare is the best example. At the heart of the problem is how our healthcare industry has evolved. The industry has been free to develop with their primary focus on maximizing their profits. Our government was remiss in its job of protecting the best interests of the people. Both parties carry some of the responsibilty for this, but it’s the GOP that demands that government stay clear of regulating our industries. They preach that the less government regulations, the better. That’s because they’re, in effect, paid to preach that by the industries. The healthcare industry spends a lot of money on lobbying and campaign donations to keep our government from regulating them. The problem is that our industries need to be regulated, different industries to varying degrees. But healthcare in particular must be regulated because it’s something we can’t do without and it’s bankrupting our government and the American people. There is no excuse for having a healthcare system that is so detrimental to our nation’s best interests. It’s our single biggest economic problem. But until something changes, the Republicans have that system locked up tight. The Affordable Care Act did some good things, but it was all within the structure of our current broken system. No surprise there because it’s a Republican plan. It will help, but the main problems with our system remain unchanged, and that’s the cost of healthcare for the American people.

Dec 31, 2012 1:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
AZreb wrote:

Our “immigration system” is not broken – it is the laws of our immigration system that are being broken! Follow the laws on the books now and stop ignoring or twisting them for the benefit of illegals.

Why should the illegals be able to demand “rights” to which they are not entitled? Why should our citizens and legal immigrants be pushed to the back of the line? Why should those who follow the laws and wait years for entry to the US in a legal manner be punished by having to wait longer in order for the illegals already here to be rewarded?

It doesn’t make sense.

Dec 31, 2012 8:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
jaham wrote:

What about cutting spending; balancing the budget within your first term, as promised?

Dec 31, 2012 8:43am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillDexter wrote:

President Obama’s victory in the last election was had by the overwhelming support of ‘immigrants’. The Democrats must have evidence that illegal aliens illegally voting in the inner city ‘ethnic’ neighborhoods played a major part, or else they would not be so vehement about absolutely preventing ANY investigations. Local news organizations around the country routinely document illegal aliens registering to vote but the ‘mainstream’ outlets will not report any of it. A quick web search will reveal hours of video that should make the news but doesn’t.

So, there is our immigration ‘policy’. Democrats successfully play the race card in the ‘news’ while the administration and circuit courts take any and all measures to NEVER allow ANY investigation or law enforcement. Anchor baby citizenship and the ensuing chain migration and welfare afforded under the ‘family reunification act’ continues indefinitely. Since we have past the point of being able to stop it by policy, it will only stop now when the United States is not worth coming into even if you’re starving.

Thank you, Democrats.

Dec 31, 2012 9:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
lawgone wrote:

Obama has had 4 years to revive the economy and has done nothing except hinder the recovery. Hes squandered mountains of money with his stimulus packages with little to nothing to show for it. As for immigration reform, we don’t need reform, we just need to enforce the laws already on the books. Unless, of course what he means by reform is to open the borders and let everyone in, which, makes sense since he pandered to the Hispanics for votes and now he has to “pay” the bill for said votes.

Dec 31, 2012 10:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

BillDexter: The vast majority of Americans are immigrants or decendents of immigrants. Unless you are a full-blooded American Indian you are a decendent of immigrants, so stop your denigration of immigrants. As for illegal immigrants, they don’t have the right to vote. The American people reelected Barack Obama. That’s it, plain and simple. The American people chose Obama over Mitt Romney. Anything else is pure partisan spin.

Dec 31, 2012 11:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillDexter wrote:

flashrooster I have not engaged in any denigration of anyone. To say that I have is a lie. This continual party line lie is necessary to avoid saying the facts that everybody knows – illegal aliens collect large amounts of taxpayer money and illegally vote in U.S. Federal elections. They vote for Democrats because the Democrats give them that money. Everybody knows this.

Consider: what if President Obama right now offered as a point of compromise in the budget negotiations that starting next year no illegal alien is eligible for any taxpayer funded subsidy. Think about that. It would not require changing any law, only enforce existing law. Simple. The Republicans would agree, and then President Obama could extract a compromise or two out of them, and we’d be on our way to a budget.

Will he do that? Absolutely not. Why? Because the illegal aliens are necessary for the political success of the Democrats. Everybody knows this.

What a scary thing it would be to start counting votes in the ‘ethnic’ precincts and then count actual eligible voters in those precincts. Shall we? We can do an equal amount of non ‘ethnec’ precincts, too. NOOO!! Instead you will call me a ‘racist’ and call law enforcement ‘disenfranchizement’, the avoidance response necessary to NEVER look under that rock.

If you or any Democrat actually believed that no illegal alien voter fraud existed, you would relish the effort to look for it so we could fall on our faces. So what are you avoiding? Concerned that conservatives might embarrass themselves, are you? No. You know full well what would be found, so you must NEVER let that happen so illegal aliens can continue to vote for Democrats.

Dec 31, 2012 12:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

BillDexter: Your problem is that you’re so full of hate you don’t realize you’re denigrating when you are.

“This continual party line lie is necessary to avoid saying the facts that everybody knows – illegal aliens collect large amounts of taxpayer money and illegally vote in U.S. Federal elections. They vote for Democrats because the Democrats give them that money. Everybody knows this.”

Okay, if “everyone knows this” then there must be all kinds of proof. Would you care to share some of your proof that (1) illegal aliens collect large amounts of taxpayer money, and (2) we have a problem with illegal aliens voting in our elections? Since everybody, except me, knows this, then proof must exist in abundance. A quick Google search should offer you troves of evidence. And please try to find some neutral sources. If this is something everybody knows, then there should be plenty of neutral sources to choose from. Try avoiding quotes from Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, and Daffy Duck.

Dec 31, 2012 1:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AdamSmith wrote:

Nature has not yet rescinded its eternal unforgiving Law of Supply and Demand.

The plain fact is that immigration into any modern country has two serious, lethal effects on the native citizens:
1. Immigration sharply drives down wage rates.
2. Immigration sharply drives up housing costs (rent rates).

Thus employers and landlords benefit from immigration.
Thus common workers are greatly harmed by immigration.

It is not an exaggeration to say that for many native workers, heavy immigration destroys their careers and family futures. No, that is not an exaggeration. This is their one and only life. They don’t have another life to live. Their children are growing up too quickly to wait for another career to happen. Their future is changed forever.

When immigration is unchecked, as it is today into the US, even the immigrants will soon find their own wage rates dropping because of immigrants arriving next year.

In the entire history of America there has never been immigration flows at the huge, uncontrolled level that is taking place today. And there are literally hundreds of millions of people all over the world on the move today, restless, seeking opportunities, whether in America, Europe, Japan, Saudi Arabia — any developed country. All it takes financially is a plane ticket.

But it is only America who has dropped its defenses simply allows itself to be overrun. All the other countries in the world, COMBINED, do not allow the immigration that comes into America. Those countries behave the way America behaved during most of its history.

For example during WWII, it was very difficult for Jews to get visas to America. Why? Because it was difficult for ANYBODY to get visas to America. Back then America still defended itself from being overrun by hordes of immigrants.

Today, America is completely controlled by big companies and landlords who grow wealthy from depressing wages and raising rents.

Immigrants are good people, just like American natives. But immigration is now quickly destroying the American middle class.

Nature’s Law of Supply and Demand has not been rescinded.

Dec 31, 2012 2:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AdamSmith wrote:

Nature has not yet rescinded its eternal unforgiving Law of Supply and Demand.

The plain fact is that immigration into any modern country has two serious, lethal effects on the native citizens:
1. Immigration sharply drives down wage rates.
2. Immigration sharply drives up housing costs (rent rates).

Thus employers and landlords benefit from immigration.
Thus common workers are greatly harmed by immigration.

It is not an exaggeration to say that for many native workers, heavy immigration destroys their careers and family futures. No, that is not an exaggeration. This is their one and only life. They don’t have another life to live. Their children are growing up too quickly to wait for another career to happen. Their future is changed forever.

When immigration is unchecked, as it is today into the US, even the immigrants will soon find their own wage rates dropping because of immigrants arriving next year.

In the entire history of America there has never been immigration flows at the huge, uncontrolled level that is taking place today. And there are literally hundreds of millions of people all over the world on the move today, restless, seeking opportunities, whether in America, Europe, Japan, Saudi Arabia — any developed country. All it takes financially is a plane ticket.

But it is only America who has dropped its defenses simply allows itself to be overrun. All the other countries in the world, COMBINED, do not allow the immigration that comes into America. Those countries behave the way America behaved during most of its history.

For example during WWII, it was very difficult for Jews to get visas to America. Why? Because it was difficult for ANYBODY to get visas to America. Back then America still defended itself from being overrun by hordes of immigrants.

Today, America is completely controlled by big companies and landlords who grow wealthy from depressing wages and raising rents.

Immigrants are good people, just like American natives. But immigration is now quickly destroying the American middle class.

Nature’s Law of Supply and Demand has not been rescinded.

Dec 31, 2012 2:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Sensibility wrote:

This should have been the top priority 4 years ago. It would be nice if he could get these things done, but nothing in the last 4 years indicates he has the ability to make them happen.

I had such high hopes for Obama back in 2008. It’s sad, really. The game is just too big for him.

Dec 31, 2012 2:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

As you well know, Sensibility, the problem is not with Obama. He’s doing his job and doing it as good as can be done considering the anti-American intransigence of the Republican Party. We now know that they don’t have a second’s thought about sacrificing the American people, our jobs and economic state in order to appease the rich. You are quick to criticize Obama, indirectly promoting the disastrous policies of the Republicans, but are entirely void of ideas on what Obama could have done differently. You always ignore one vital point: The Republicans have a partisan policy to fight Obama on everything he tries to do in order to claim, at the end of the day, that his Presidency was a failure and that we should, therefore, elect a Republican. Only an idiot would reward the GOP with their support after witnessing the harm caused by them to our Republic and its economy. They are the enemy, both to our country and the world. All the world knows this except rightwingers. Even the closeted ones like yourself. They have abused our Constitution in order to force their minority views on the majority, and in doing so they’ve caused considerable harm. Fortunately, the old, white conservative guard is fast being replaced by all other groups, most promising, the young. Face it, you just are unable to handle having a black man who doesn’t agree with your politics in the US Presidency. There is nothing Obama could do that would make you like him. And shame on you.

Dec 31, 2012 2:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
actnow wrote:

Thank goodness that so many Americans are waking up on this issue and demanding that their representatives put the long term interests of American citizens first on immigration policies. Thank you FAIR, NumbersUSA and others!

Jan 01, 2013 5:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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