North Korean leader, in rare address, seeks end to confrontation with South

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prietenul wrote:

Here we go again. After an interlude of provocations and hostility, the NK regime now wants to be rewarded for behaving normally, but of course, before actually starting to behave normally! We can expect it to restart the provocations whenever it feels it isn’t being rewarded enough. This is criminal behavior and it is called extortion. We shouldn’t fall for it again. If the Chinese feel this criminal regime serves some purpose of theirs, let them support it. Japan, South Korea and the USA shouldn’t pay them a nickle.

Dec 31, 2012 10:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sushilpershad wrote:

Nice to know that there are some wise Leaders in North Korea Who want to bring peace to the region Good Beginning to the New Year 2013.!!

Dec 31, 2012 10:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
beancube2101 wrote:

Everything military is extremely expensive. The risks of being hijacked or coerced are very high as well. NK should try something like build electric cars and electric car infrastructures for neighbors and for her civilian economy. Perhaps the North and the South should try racing electric cars as their first step to set off that Asian industry that all Asians would be proud of right now.

Dec 31, 2012 11:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JapanViewer wrote:

Yes, probably nothing more than extortion. But play along. We can out-play him if we’re smart. Aid should only be given where we get access to Kim’s inner circle, with the explicit aim to entice and corrupt the whole lot of ‘em. It shouldn’t be too hard to corrupt them since they’re not very religious people. Seems China has given the West the Green Light.

Dec 31, 2012 11:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Curly wrote:

If North Korean leader Kim Jong-un wants to end the Korean War he knows what it will take. It would be much better for the North if he would sign a peace agreement with the South.

Dec 31, 2012 11:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

South Korea needs to respond immediately by saying they also want an end to confrontations. The US needs to respond and say this is a good thing and supports a unified Korea, recognizes Kim Jong-un as the leader of North Korea, and supports a permanent end to the Korean War. We need to get with China on this one.
If Korea can have peace, it will be a major great thing for 2013.
Don’t let this slip away. This is BIG and unheard of.
We can all hope for the best.
No joke, this is like nothing said before from North Korea.
God bless all the people of Korea, North and South, and prayeers and hope for an end to the division, just as with East and West Germany.

Dec 31, 2012 11:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

South Korea needs to respond immediately by saying they also want an end to confrontations. The US needs to respond and say this is a good thing and supports a unified Korea, recognizes Kim Jong-un as the leader of North Korea, and supports a permanent end to the Korean War. We need to get with China on this one.
If Korea can have peace, it will be a major great thing for 2013.
Don’t let this slip away. This is BIG and unheard of.
We can all hope for the best.
No joke, this is like nothing said before from North Korea.
God bless all the people of Korea, North and South, and prayeers and hope for an end to the division, just as with East and West Germany.

Dec 31, 2012 11:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Kailim wrote:

americanguy,

Fully support your opinion.

Jan 01, 2013 12:08am EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

North Korea doesn’t on its own decide its relations with other nations. That is done in concert with other Communist nations under the 1960 “Long-Range Policy” (LRP), the “new” strategy all Communist nations signed onto to defeat the West with (the last major disinformation operation under the LRP was the fake collapse of the USSR in 1991. The next will be the fake collapse of the Chinese Communist government in several year or so). In fact, tensions between the two Koreas will continue to “heat up”, “then cool down”:

“U.S. policy for dealing with the North Korean situation is inadequate because it focuses on North Korea in isolation as a rogue state, and naively seeks help from the Russians and Chinese to solve the problem. The North Korea situation and any future nuclear incident, wherever it occurs, must be seen against the background of Sino-Soviet ‘convergence’ strategy: the interaction of Russian and Chinese policy and the moves they make to derive strategic gains from critical situations should be closely studied.” – KGB Defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn, The Perestroika Deception, March 1989, p. 46.

Jan 01, 2013 12:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

@Curly: From the North’s perspective, the lack of a peace agreement is due to the refusal of the United States of America to explicitly end the Korean War. From the South’s perspective, the lack of a peace agreement is no doubt due to the North’s apparent continued ambitions to reunify the peninsula by military means.

@americanguy: Nice idea, but it’s not that simple! The source of the instability observed by @prietenul is not necessarily malevolence or intelligent planning; but to me, indicates that behind the scenes, there are various competing factions within the upper echelons of the North Korean command structure. They are behaving in a double-minded way because there is more than one master and more than one mind at the top. There are hard-liners who want to spend all of the North’s resources on nuclear weapons and false-flagged special forces that can smash the South to pieces to get rid of the threat they perceive in them. There are humanitarian administrators who actually care about the millions of North Koreans who go daily with less than the recommended amounts of nutrition, but have no idea where all the money disappears to, because such details are concealed from them by the security apparatus; who holds the real seat of both economic and military power. And there are probably other people who are somewhere in the middle of that spectrum. SO, every time one of these factions or schools of thought feels they are not getting what they want, or, that they are losing influence internally within the régime (and therefore feels threatened); they start taking desperate measures to reassert their relevance, and we see a reversion in North Korean behaviour to one or the other extreme.

I think Kim Jong-un has to conduct a delicate balancing act between all these factions. He has applauded the rocket launches and given moral support to their military, has reasserted NK’s “military first” policy, and has ensured the façade completion of that embarrassing white elephant skyscraper hotel/ vanity project in Pyongyang (the “Ryugyong Hotel”); but now appears to be signalling both internally and externally which course of action he prefers, if the six nations party to the old talks will only give him the political and diplomatic cover (respectively) to do it.

We need to give him some diplomatic cover. AT the same time, the hard-line “military first” people need to feel the flames licking at their toes; they need to be made to feel VERY uncomfortable about the prospects for what will happen if they continue taking a hard line; but on the other hand, more at ease about what will happen if they “let down their guard” and unclench their fists. This is a delicate balancing act. The last Western diplomat I remember reading about who really impressed me by getting this right was Christopher Hill. Where is he? Can we get him back on the job please???

Jan 01, 2013 12:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

@DeanMJackson: It’s this kind of paranoia that keeps NK’s “military first” people firmly in power. DO YOU seriously believe that East Germany still exists? That it’s still part of a grand communist deception? A trojan horse, destined to destroy the West from within? WHAT about Poland? The Baltic States? Some of those Eastern European states are now so anti-communist or anti-Russian that they were willing to host CIA “extraordinary rendition” on their territory with no questions asked. If you continue looking at Eastern Europeans and South Asians as secret agents of a resurgent Soviet Union/ Maoist China; then you are no better than the Stalinist extremists within Russia who regarded former prisoners of war (Russian Soviet soldiers) returning from their Western front in 1945/6 as potential Nazi agents! Stalin persecuted these Russian former prisoners-of-war, and treated them as traitors after all of the other hardships they had suffered and survived. So much for your attitude to human rights, if you will look so narrowly as this on anyone who happened to be born in one of these former communist countries!

Golitsyn has some intriguing perspectives, but anyone who thinks that the Russians would destroy their own economy on purpose (or that their economic meltdown was a sham, and that it didn’t really happen) is just out of their minds. I’ve seen the consequences of that; and it didn’t make Russia any stronger, not in the short term, not in the medium term, and not in the long term either. A controlled transition to a more democratic & dynamic system would have been so much better for Russia, but that’s just not what happened, thanks to Andropov & his friends at the KGB. Half of Russia is now:
• Addicted to drugs or dependent on alcohol and/or tobacco,
• Suffering family break-down,
• Suffering health problems related to the above,
• Unable to get as good an education in basic sciences as they might in Soviet times (though removal of explicit ideology is definitely a positive step),
• Becoming an economic slave to the monopolistic chain-store template “retail therapy” nonsense that has poured over the border from the West.
• Stuck in heaving traffic or smashing their Western-manufactured vehicles on the Moscow ring road or at junctions in other major Russian cities.

Anyone who honestly thinks that the above items are all part of a grand KGB plan for strengthening the Soviet Union needs their head to be examined.

Russian demographics and strategic power base have been permanently impaired by these disadvantages. Golitsyn is simply wrong about some things. If this was all part of a LRP (long-range plan), then that LRP went badly wrong, and anyone who asserts the LRP is still going must reckon at best that the Russians who support it are improvising. Ongoing rivalry between Eastern and Western blocs is merely the end-game of the Cold War between a struggling super-power regaining some strength (the Soviet Union), an ambitious and still growing power that wants peace but prepares for war and doesn’t know its time is up yet due to rigid application of some totally wrong-headed ideas like the one-child policy (China), and Western powers that constantly teeter on the edge of stability and yet for all of their apparent instability draw extraordinary collective strength from their political and economic flexibility.

Jan 01, 2013 1:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
WJL wrote:

If big brother America stays out of this issue, unification within a decade will definitely happen.

Jan 01, 2013 2:08am EST  --  Report as abuse
RonJeremy wrote:

“Hey guys, we’re totally serious this time. No, really, we mean it. Change of heart, promise! Its not a ploy to get some food aid. Of course not! Huh? Peanuts? Someone named Lucy pulling away a football at the last second? No, never heard of it.”

Jan 01, 2013 2:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
HypatiaLeigh wrote:

they want to party with Psy too!

I understand the factually based pessimism. But perhaps now that the old crazy guy is dead, perhaps this new message from his son may be more sincere/true?

Hard to have hope in this world, but just suggesting…. wouldn’t it be nice?

I’m trying to imagine the millions(?) of lifetime repressed peoples learning about the REAL world they have been secluded from… I think most will go into ‘shock’ and retreat to the abusive life they’ve known & is ‘comfy’!!!

I dunno. I too will believe it when I see it.

Meanwhile, GO PSY!!

Jan 01, 2013 2:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
FinanceAust wrote:

Kim Jong-un’s statements are genuine, then he has the chance to be remembered as the greatest North Korean leader of all time.

It will be interesting to see if he has realized he can do what the leaders of Burma/Myanmar have started doing and reconcile with the Western world.

Jan 01, 2013 3:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
Neurochuck wrote:

If Kim Jong-un was realistic, he’d have to say he and every other Korean is trapped between China, Russia and USA, and history and their strategic military interests freeze the status quo.
What would convince the US military to give up their only land base in Asia, close to vulnerable parts of China and Russia, with nuclear ready forces, in a bastion of high tech S Korean defenders, with good ports and infrastructure, etc, etc ?
Why would China and Russia allow the USA to extend its military and political reach to their borders with Korea ?
So the best he could do is to separate off an economic and trade (and investment?, tourism?) development agenda.
Like the poor brother-in-law wanting to sell his raw materials and cash crops; and get a decent paying job for his labor in the South Korea Corporation, making world leading mobile phones, cars, whitegoods, semiconductors, etc; and hang-out with some of those K Pop girls.

Jan 01, 2013 4:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

matthewslyman, here’s my favorite in-your-face proof that the collapse of the USSR was a strategic ruse:

Lenin’s tomb still exists in Red Square:

Just as the people of Germany tore apart the Berlin Wall in 1989, so too the Russian people would have destroyed Lenin’s tomb on December 25, 1991. The 74-year persecution of the 90% non-Communist Russian population would have seen Lenin’s tomb destroyed.

Jan 01, 2013 6:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
BlueOkie wrote:

Let’s start by getting this guy a barber!

Jan 01, 2013 7:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
AZWarrior wrote:

Sign a peace agreement with South Korea, get in compliance with UN mandates, and open the border. No? Didn’t think so. Just another example of how tyrants play the soft headed sheep. Look at some of the incredibly simple minded posts here for a nauseating example.

Jan 01, 2013 8:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
Vuenbelvue wrote:

The best quote from above is by Japan viewer. ” It shouldn’t be too hard to corrupt them since they’re not very religious people.” He must not live in America with the millions of churches or the middle east with the thousands of mosques. LOL

Jan 01, 2013 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
lawgone wrote:

As with anything that North Korea offers it comes with conditions and those conditions are not usually very realistic. South Korea has maintained all along one of the stipulations for the war to end would be for the north to give up their nuclear weapons program. Since we know that isn’t going to happen anyone that thinks the north is serious about ending the war is sadly mistaken. The people of North Korea will continue to starve and the war will be ongoing, its just that simple.

The only way the war will ever end and for these two countries to reunify is when there are no more North Korean people to literally starve to death or die from a lack of adequate shelter or both. At that point the leaders of North Korea will have no one else in their society to hold hostage or threaten. Its long past time to cut off the food the world has been giving North Korea to fatten up their military, it may sound cruel by that is only way for the war to end and the unification of the two Koreas to happen.

Jan 01, 2013 12:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

Just tell him to remove his barriers at the border.

Jan 01, 2013 1:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CNY_AP wrote:

Peopeel actually believe him?

Jan 01, 2013 2:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
KyuuAL wrote:

Let me know when the NKorean gov’t decides to stand down and submits rule of the entire peninsula to the South

Jan 01, 2013 9:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MikeMurray wrote:

He looks like he has Downs Syndrome or something. Weird country.

Jan 01, 2013 10:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Anthonykovic wrote:

The North builds nuclear bombs and launches missiles, then they ask for an end to confrontation ?

Actions speak louder than word.

Jan 01, 2013 11:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Wassup wrote:

Could this be true? I’ll be a believer when a treaty is ratified between the two and they end their multi decade confrontation. “SHOW ME.”

Jan 01, 2013 11:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

matthewslyman says, “It’s this kind of paranoia that keeps NK’s “military first” people firmly in power. DO YOU seriously believe that East Germany still exists? That it’s still part of a grand communist deception?”

It’s called the “Long-Range Policy”, not the “Long-Range Paranoia Policy”!

As for East Germany, Communist agents rule there, though it is now unified with West Germany. In fact, Chancellor Angela Merkel is a well-known Stasi agent (her “Lutheran minister” father was a very good friend of the East Germans), code name: ANITA.

As for the other East Bloc nations, Communist agents never left power there because there was NEVER a de-Communization program instituted to ferret out such agents still in power in the government/military/security/intelligence, media, churches, etc. Imagine that, inexplicably no one was curious as to whether the “collapse” of the East Bloc (and USSR) was a strategic ruse! In fact, if the collapse of the USSR/East Bloc were legitimate, then in the interest of national security such de-Communization programs would have been axiomatic.

Not “A trojan horse, destined to destroy the West from within”, but destroy the United States from Mexico, after China becomes a fake democracy and Mexico requests Chinese military “assistance” in “combating” the Mexico-manufactured “drug wars”, which by then will have spread throughout Mexico.

The new President of Mexico already last summer called for the “internationalization” of the “drug wars” there. When the proposed new Federal police force fails, that is when Mexico will “internationalize” the “drug wars”.

Why shouldn’t the Communist East Bloc support America’s “War on Terror”, which is a cover for the still ongoing Cold War? Watch what happens next year when the NATO missile shield is slated to become operational. Those East Bloc nations will pull the carpet out from the missile shield, wasting billions of dollars!

matthewslyman says, “Golitsyn has some intriguing perspectives, but anyone who thinks that the Russians would destroy their own economy on purpose (or that their economic meltdown was a sham, and that it didn’t really happen) is just out of their minds.”

The Communists have just one priority: To neutralize the United States; they could care less about broken families, etc. In fact, Russia in another way is stronger than she was before the USSR days, since now she is no longer economically drained by subsidizing “former” republic members. However, those republics are still Communist. Last I saw, Russia is massively revamping its military. Google: “Russia to Triple State Defense Order by 2015”

Of course, you have to remember that Russia is allied to China, Vietnam, and the other 14 republics of the USSR and their militaries. One must include those militaries and their future potentials in neutralizing the United States. Also remember that Mexico has been a Communist nation since the 1934 elections there, and Communists have been recently sweeping other Latin American nations too. Brazil plans to build 800 airports! Guess what they’re for?!

matthewslyman saus, “Anyone who honestly thinks that the above items are all part of a grand KGB plan for strengthening the Soviet Union needs their head to be examined.”

The KGB assisted in developing and operationalizing the LRP, they didn’t go about developing the plan themselves. They were ordered to. The KGB is a child of the CPSU, and it was the Central Committee of the CPSU that tasked the KGB and other government organs to participate in the development and operationalize the LRP.

Now you know why on either side of the bows of even new Russian Naval vessels the Communist Red Star is still seen! That tells you all you need to know about the “collapse” of the USSR in 1991. In fact, the Communist Red Star is still on the wings of Russian military aircraft, both Air Force and Naval helicopters. Now you know why the “electorates” of the “former” 15 republics that made up the USSR are inexplicably only electing Soviet era Communist Party Quislings for their respective President. Here’s a sample of “post” USSR republics and their Presidents since 1991:

Armenia:

Levon Ter-Petrossian – October 16, 1991 – February 3, 1998, Communist.

Robert Kocharyan – February 4, 1998 – April 9, 2008, Communist.

Serzh Azati Sargsyan – April 9, 2008 – Present, Communist.

Azerbaijan:

Ayaz Niyazi oğlu Mütallibov – October 30, 1991 – March 6, 1992, Communist.

Abulfez Elchibey – June 16, 1992 – September 1, 1993, not Communist.

Heydar Alirza oglu Aliyev – June 24, 1993 – October 31, 2003, Communist.

Ilham Heydar oglu Aliyev (Son of third President) – October 31, 2003 – Present, Communist.

Belarus:

Alexander Grigoryevich Lukashenko – July 20, 1994 – Present, Communist.

Kazakhstan:

Nursultan Abishuly Nazarbayev – April 24, 1990 – Present, Communist.

Kyrgyzstan:

Askar Akayevich Akayev – October 27, 1990 – March 24, 2005, Communist.

Ishenbai Duyshonbiyevich Kadyrbekov – March 24, 2005 – March 25, 2005 (Interim), Communist.

Kurmanbek Saliyevich Bakiyev – March 25, 2005 – April 15, 2010, Communist.

Roza Isakovna Otunbayeva – April 7, 2010 – December 1, 2011 Communist.

Almazbek Sharshenovich Atambayev – December 1, 2011 – Present, Communist.

Russia:

Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin – July 10, 1991 – December 31, 1999 – Communist.

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin – 31 December 1999 – 7 May 2000 (Acting) and May 7, 2000 – May 7, 2008 – Communist.

Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev – May 7, 2008 – May 7, 2012, during his studies at the University he joined the Communist Party.

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin – May 7, 2012 – Present, Communist.

Tajikistan:

Emomalii Rahmon – November 20, 1992 – Present, Communist.

Ukraine:

Leonid Makarovych Kravchuk, December 5, 1991 – July 19, 1994, joined Ukraine Communist Party in 1958.

Leonid Danylovych Kuchma, July 19, 1994 – January 23, 2005, Communist, 1960.

Viktor Andriyovych Yushchenko, January 23, 2005 – February 25, 2010, Communist, 1980.

Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych, February 25, 2010 – Present, Communist, 1980.

Uzbekistan:

Islam Abdug‘aniyevich Karimov – March 24, 1990 – Present, Communist.

Imagine it’s 1784 America. The Treaty of Paris (1783) was signed the previous year ending the revolutionary war with Britain. So who do the electorates of the newly independent 13 colonies elect for their respective governors? They elect persons who were Loyalists (American supporters of Great Britain) during the war for independence! Of course, in reality the persecution was so bad for Loyalists in post independence America that they had to flee the country en masse for Canada.

Or try this one out: After the collapse of the South African Apartheid Regime in 1994, the majority black population reelect for their Presidents only persons who were National Party members before the 1994 elections!

Jan 01, 2013 11:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Foxdrake_360 wrote:

@DeanMJackson

“Angela Merkel is a well-known Stasi agent … code name: ANITA?”

Hahahahaha… I laughed so hard the Hot Chocolate came out my nose!

Bro, you have to get back on the medication. I know healthcare in America sucks but as soon as the Commie, Obama-care kicks in, you need to go to the psychologist … STAT!

Jan 02, 2013 5:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
keebo wrote:

Kim Jong-un looks like a Baby Face Nelson at the podium. Appropriate since he and his bunch are not leaders of anything – they are only a pack of criminal thugs beating their people into submission. What a bunch of wimps.

Jan 02, 2013 2:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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