Obama picks Hagel for defense, Brennan for CIA

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GA_Chris wrote:

A shockingly sensible but risky choice. This is a guy who has actually seen the horrors of war first hand, not via Hollywood, so understands how horrid it is and to be avoided unless absolutely needed… unlike many others who glorify war in a primitive almost Roman gladiator way that does not belong in a civilized society…

Most importantly, he is not a blind supporter of Israel. The USA position on Israel has caused much of the un-rest in the middle east as Israel continues to ignore human rights. We should support Israel, but also withhold funding and support when they expand settlements or kill children. Once Israel stops killing, Hamas will loose support and peace can be a realistic opportunity. But then many don’t want that

Jan 07, 2013 7:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
GA_Chris wrote:

A shockingly sensible but risky choice. This is a guy who has actually seen the horrors of war first hand, not via Hollywood, so understands how horrid it is and to be avoided unless absolutely needed… unlike many others who glorify war in a primitive almost Roman gladiator way that does not belong in a civilized society…

Most importantly, he is not a blind supporter of Israel. The USA position on Israel has caused much of the un-rest in the middle east as Israel continues to ignore human rights. We should support Israel, but also withhold funding and support when they expand settlements or kill children. Once Israel stops killing, Hamas will loose support and peace can be a realistic opportunity. But then many don’t want that

Jan 07, 2013 7:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
ConradU812 wrote:

@GA_Chris wrote: “unlike many others who glorify war in a primitive almost Roman gladiator way that does not belong in a civilized society…”

Which society is that, exactly? I’d like to introduce you to Hollywood…

Jan 07, 2013 9:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
4ngry4merican wrote:

The Republicans in the House are against Hagel’s nomination for one reason and one reason only. Because he was nominated by Obama, and the only thing they care about is opposing anything and everything Obama attempts to do. It’s disgraceful.

Jan 07, 2013 10:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
act1 wrote:

Good1! We need more constructive Republican mavericks like Mr. Hagel. Maybe he can lead to way to more intelligent behavior by our other party members. Dump the Teapartiers and the other 18th century mentalities and get on with our countries vital needs.

Jan 07, 2013 10:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

“sure to generate controversy”? “Risky”? I can’t think of a candidate that would generate less controversy. He is the ultimate compromise candidate.

All nominations generate bluster, that is just life as we know it. Let’s get the president a reasonable staff of his choosing and keep moving forward with the business of the nation.

It will be interesting only if the GOP ham-hands the nomination. Maybe they will insist on medicare/Social security cuts for seniors before they will accept the nomination of a polically moderate GOP war hero as Secretary of Defense. THAT would be interesting.

Jan 07, 2013 11:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

We already have enough ways and might to kill all of the people in the world over 6 times and must have the biggest stock pile of biological and nuclear weapons in the world.

If Hagel is for paring down our bloated military costs to allow more funding for science and technology – he is the right man for the job.

He also looks like a tough SOB who will be aggressive in making it happen.

Jan 07, 2013 11:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
rgbviews wrote:

Every American citizen should question why a foreign state should restrict their choice of administrative leaders. Mr. Hagel IS the best choice, why settle for less? Do you want a puppet or a leader?

Every Israeli citizen should worry about the blowback from even more of AIPACs meddling in US affairs.

Jan 07, 2013 12:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

rgbviews,
I am not too familiar with AIPAC, however put my faith in AAFPF – All American Freedom Public Forum – where anyone can contribute to how to make America a more free and open society, run by Americans for Americans.

Jan 07, 2013 12:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
usagadfly wrote:

One of the most optimistic events in the new Obama administration is Hagel’s nomination. It shows an open-minded yet tough approach to an overly coddled military still trying to find a foe to replace Stalinism. He might even cut the “black” budget (both the “white black” budget, which looks small, and the bigger than Medicare and Social Security combined “black black” budget), which is the source of MOST of the budget deficit instead of “entitlements”.

Does anyone doubt there is a hugely disproportionate Jewish lobby in Washington?? It is a snake den of foreign agents openly working against the interests of the American people. If we are to permit such a thing for Jews, let us at least give the Chinese equal access. They are equally predatory. But to go after Hagel for pointing out AIPAC is a clear way to create a list of hostile Israeli government agents operating within our country. It will be very, very interesting to listen to voices critical of Hagel in the upcoming fight. Time to draw clear lines.

Jan 07, 2013 1:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
rgbviews wrote:

Hagel would be a great Secretary of Defence for the United States of America. Whether he would be best for Israel, or Canada, or France, or Afghanistan, or any other country should be totally irrelevant to the Senate decision.

Jan 07, 2013 1:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jdl51 wrote:

I heard Brennan picks his nose to the left. I’m sure that alone is reason enough for republicans to block his nomination.

Jan 07, 2013 1:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MisterAmerica wrote:

Anyone who opposes Hagel specifically because of his comment on Israel (which was not a big deal, he basically said he would not be beholden to the Israeli lobby – shouldn’t all politicians say this?) …. once again… anyone who opposes Hagel only for his comment on Israel is a traitor to this country (the United States of America). So far you have lindsey graham and Chuck Schumer who have pledged their allegiance to the country of Israel and to the Israeli lobby and have shown us they are traitors to this country. Who else will be a traitor to our country?

Jan 07, 2013 1:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
123456951 wrote:

Hagel is a great choice. Reminds me of Harry Truman. He tells it like it is. I’m a Republican.

Jan 07, 2013 2:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse

How is it possible that President Obama has the audacity to nominate Hagel without the authority of AIPAC?

Is he still under the misguided impression that he decides foreign policy? If he’s not very careful AIPAC will have him out of the White House and back running a neighbourhood law office! You don’t want to mess with the people who really run the country …

Jan 07, 2013 2:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AnandaMayi wrote:

DouglasReed100
Agreed. Who the heck does he think he is, he is way out of order apointing without asking mother ship for permission but this is not over yet. We have to wait to see what they say in the capital (Tel Aviv) and unless they authorize this he will be stacking up shelves at his local Walmart.

Jan 07, 2013 3:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Problem is that 311 million Americans are apparently happy to see the democracy, for which so many of their grandfathers and fathers died in WW2, thrown away to an unelected lobby that has all but usurped the function of government at least in vital foreign policy issues that affect not only America but most of the world.

Jan 07, 2013 3:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlaskanDude wrote:

no on hagel yes on brennan. Did obama throw hagel in JUST to cause controversy? Will we soon hear… look at those republicans… i name a republican to my cabinet and they even fight that. Obviously THEY are the problem in Washington, am I right wink wink? Can a brother get a hell yeah! Thank you (name of town here) I’ve got to fly to the next town now. We will see.

Jan 07, 2013 3:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Hagel was an early and vocal critic of Bush’s epic boondoggle in Iraq. That makes Hagel one of the few republicans with any remaining credibility on national defense. He’s a good pick for the job.

Jan 07, 2013 4:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse

for some reason the GOP is not getting the message, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THEIR BS!!! No they just need to keep rejecting any and all ideas PRESIDENT Obama comes up with, they do not care about the country AT ALL, and they really have issues with the color of Mr. Obama’s skin…
It’s like watching a bunch of children in a kindergarten recess yard, but not nearly as cute…

Jan 07, 2013 4:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

4ngry4merican is right, there is no one Obama could nominate to Sec of Defense that the Republicans wouldn’t oppose. The Republicans couldn’t make it clearer that they prefer the Israeli government to our own. They are very much pro-Israeli government and anti-US government. And yet they want to be in charge of the government they despise. We would have to be really stupid to put a political party in charge that hates, and wants to dismantle, our government. That’s asking for trouble. Bush was just the clumsy forerunner of what is to come from the GOP.

Jan 07, 2013 4:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Poor Tea Party. Maybe they would prefer that Obama nominate Sarah Palin as Secretary of Defense. The woman who thought Africa was a country.

Good times in the banjo belt.

Jan 07, 2013 5:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Sassan31 wrote:

Huge mistake by the President. People like me who supported the President are now going to bitterly oppose him on the issue; and bet that there are many moderate Democrats like me who oppose Hagel. Look, the Defense Secretary has to carry out the President’s objectives. But having a Secretary of Defense who is weak on terror and an appeaser of evil regimes; and having made border-line anti-Semitic and truly homophobic comments is not someone we need representing us. It makes us appear weak. The Hagel nomination must be opposed by all of us who value freedom and human dignity for all people. Whether LGBT Americans or Iranians oppressed in Iran. We must stand for freedom and human dignity; something Hagel has consistently stood against. We need not an appeaser of evil. I think that the President made a huge mistake and that Hagel’s nomination will end up being a loser for the President as his nomination simply won’t get through the Senate. Big mistake Mr. President..

Jan 07, 2013 5:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Kuji wrote:

The Senate nomination hearings should go something like this:

Question 1: Are you Donald Rumsfeld?
Answer 1: No.

That about wraps it up for questioning. Ready to vote!

Jan 07, 2013 6:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
usagadfly wrote:

What difference does it make whether there are 3 or 30 Israeli lobbying organizations operating inside the USA if they are all taking their direction from Tel Aviv? They all march in lockstep with minor variations. The direction does not go from the bottom up, but from the top down.

The top is not in this country. This is similar to the pro-China organizations, and the pro-PLO organizations and other pro-(pick a foreign government) organizations. The direction comes from foreign countries. The term used usually is “foreign agent”. Our “allies” do not sponsor such organizations to interfere with our domestic politics.

None of them should be involved directly in the operations of our Legislative or Administrative branches of Government.

Jan 07, 2013 6:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
boreal wrote:

“……. The pro-Israel lobby in Washington, which Hagel once criticized, was gearing up to fight him. …….”

The tail is about to wag the dog (again).

Jan 07, 2013 7:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Gigimoderate wrote:

Chuck Hagel, Republican Senator, Deputy administrator of Veterans administration under Reagan, Recipient of two Purple Hearts, Vietnam war veteran, all around pro American!
Outrageous choice………says the chicken hawks!

Jan 07, 2013 8:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
johnnydowe wrote:

This administration currently has capability of using Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) from UAVs and/or reconnaisance satellites as directed energy weapons. The government is testing is out on disabled veterans. Ask Colonel Lamar Dewey Parker, he knows all about it.

Jan 07, 2013 9:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

You know as soon as anyone even slightly miffs or rejects Israel’s right to control our foreign policy – they are slammed as antisemitic.

This cry me a river and never object to my needs for what happened 60 years ago is getting pathetic. The mileage is long worn out on WW2 atrocities. We have so many more wars and genocides stacked up since that time and none of these other nations milk this like the Israelis.

Cry wolf or whimpering Timmy too many times and it is meaningless.

Hagel is right to voice concern about Israel lobbyists – same as Chinese lobbyists. We are not a nation to suck hole to bribes and threats by other nations. We are Americans – not snivelers.

We give foreign aid – we expect some sort of respect and deal making – not a ones sided sneer for the likes of Karzai or Netanhayu (who by the way is destroying his countries credibility and favors around the world).

The accusation “Antisemitic” over foreign policy by anyone really shows their true colors and it’s not American – it’s a pathetic attempt to milk their grandparents suffering for political and financial gain.

Jan 07, 2013 9:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse

@usagadfly
“None of them (Israel lobbyists) should be involved directly in the operations of our Legislative or Administrative branches of Government”

And that is the precise point. The government of the United States of America should be by elected representatives who act in the interests of all 311 million people of America and NOT IN THE INTERESTS OF 7 MILLION ISRAELIS in the Middle East.

This has turned democracy on its head.

Jan 07, 2013 10:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ARJTurgot2 wrote:

This is going to be fun. All the Libs here yammering about the GOP seem to not understand that Chuck Schumer is one of the biggest benefit receivers from AIPAC; takes a lot of money from Wall Street as well, vowed to protect them when the mortgage bubble went, pretty much has. And, he is a Democrat.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/koch-hagel-test-chuck-schumer_694126.html

Jan 07, 2013 11:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

Wow – the presses are working overtime tonight.
After reading various blogs you’d there are at least 50 articles tonight with each having 10 mentions of Hagel and 10 mention of Jew in every article.

They are painting Hagel like some kind of Nazi who is out to destroy Israel, when in fact he is simply questioning why America has such an enormous Jewish lobby pushing Israeli agenda in our country.

If Hagel is ultimately not appointed – the proof is in this early campaign – Jews control our political appointments via the press, lobbying and who knows what else behind closed doors.

If Hagel is appointed – I guess this was just blown out of proportion in the press with so many articles instantly popping up as a massive smear campaign on Hagel.

Jan 07, 2013 11:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
I.M.Curious wrote:

Would someone please explain to me what Israel has EVER done for this country (other than supply members of Congress and said members with cash) and why there is such an undying sense of duty to fawn over them. And don’t give me the old tired reasoning of “them being the only democracy in the Middle East”. So what, every time we have ever needed military assistance they always bow out because they don’t want to get involved in whatever war/action so the rest of the world doesn’t hate them more than they already do. They only take take take and never give back. So why do we seem to owe them billions and billions of dollars every year only to get nothing in return. WHY???????? When there is a crisis in this country I never see them being the first to offer aid or supplies. What is the deal? Please tell me!

Jan 08, 2013 2:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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