Malian army beats back Islamist rebels with French help

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americanguy wrote:

I see, jsut like the US, France learned NOTHING from Vietnam.

Jan 11, 2013 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Are there good Islamist rebels somewhere? So far, they all seem like people who throw rocks at women, and kill doctors. I’m open to the possibility there’s good ones. Just…. where are they?

Jan 11, 2013 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DeannaTx wrote:

Oil and Israel’s interests aren’t involved so nobody has to worry the US lending France a hand.

Jan 11, 2013 1:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

The French have entered Mali to push the “rebels” out.

The West stands idly by while “rebels” take Syria, and 60,000 people die (so far).

I guess it’s all about which country’s leader wants to play nice with the West.

Pitiful double standard.

Jan 11, 2013 1:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sensi wrote:

@ gregbrew56
It is rather all about the UN security council misused ability of its permanent members to veto others decision, either the US about the israeli-palestinian conflict or Russia and China about Syria. That is not a double standard, just misuse of a special power. I guess that an intervention in Mali is consensual, that is all.

@ americanguy
What a nonsensical comparison…

Jan 11, 2013 2:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MikeBarnett wrote:

This comes as no surprise. Qaddafi fought al-Qaeda in the Islamic Mahgreb (AQIM) along the Libya-Niger border before the NATO invervention. The region includes southern Libya and Algeria, and northern Niger, Mali, and Chad. The US backed the NATO invervention that forced Qaddafi to withdraw his troops northward. Some readers may recall that it took Qaddafi about 2 weeks to launch a counterattack against the Libyan rebels. Part of AQIM followed Qaddafi’s troops northward to join the Libyan rebels. They may have been part of the troops that killed the US ambassador recently.

Part of AQIM moved south through Niger to northern Nigeria to join Boko Haram (BH) as trainers and advisors. They improved recruitment, organization, training, and operations for BH in unconventional warefare. BH is in a position to strike the oil that Nigeria sells to the US and NATO.

After Qaddafi’s fall, Tauregs who had served Qaddafi moved westward to northern Mali and used their arms, training, and experience to defeat the US-trained Malian army and capture three northern Mali provincial capitals. This led the Malian army to overthrow the government. AQIM followed the Tauregs and joined Ansar al-Dine (AD), a Malian islamic insurgent group. AQIM defeated the Tauregs and captured Goa, one capital, and AD captured Timbuktu, a second capital. You may have heard about AD destroying shrines in Timbuktu. Now, the French are intervening like they did in Ivory Coast (Cote d’Ivoire) in 2011. Mali and Ivory Coast were French colonies.

If you read the news stories since Osama bin Laden’s death, Ayman al Zawahiri has been moving al-Qaeda’s forces to be in striking distance of the oil and gas infrastructure of northern Africa and the Persian Gulf. The most likely targets will be pipelines because Arabs regard the oil and gas as the treasure of the Arabs. Exploding pipelines don’t destroy much oil and gas but they make wonderful, explosive fireballs that raise the terror premiums and increase revenues for Arab countries at the expense of the West.

Jan 11, 2013 3:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

Well done France. Get in there and clean out those extremists before Mali becomes another festering boil with Muslim extremists.

Wonder how many of them are from Afghanistan – looking for greener and safer passages.

What is is about Muslims that are so easily sucked in to these fanatical extremists? Young down and out youths looking for a cause? I don’t think so – they exist all over the world.

Must be something in the Muslim religion that is a really good anchor point to bend the mind for obedience to destructive forces.

Could be these youths are very hormonal and even the remotest thought of 100 virgins in the afterlife has them raging for a cause.

Those dang Christians are born with sin and expect a pious neighborhood when the hit heaven. Not much fun if you are a boy raging with hormones.

Better to go down in a blaze of glory and rejoice with carnal festivities for your deeds.

Jan 11, 2013 3:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
bigr wrote:

Deanna and greg brew, you are not keeping up on your news, the US is sending advisors to 35 African countries and has a enormous buildup started

Jan 11, 2013 3:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Nikland wrote:

Well the rebels are the majority people of Mali and they want to get rid of the government that wants to stay clinging to power. So why is the widely unpopular government being supports and propped up to rule over the Mali people.

Jan 11, 2013 3:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
234aim889 wrote:

Thank you MikeBarnett for your comment!!!

You are right in laying out the strategy–even though you don’t mention the key that makes these lunatics fignt even though they could be killed. The key: “They believe Allah grants them military victories and any successful campaigns of murdering unarmed people is proof of Allah’s will!” And, after they control an area, impose Sharia, then the choice is “convert to Islam, leave, live as a slave, or die”

Of course the PROVEN FACT from experience will be denied by some “Kind and Nice people!”

Jan 11, 2013 3:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
234aim889 wrote:

Thank you MikeBarnett for your comment!!!

You are right in laying out the strategy–even though you don’t mention the key that makes these lunatics fignt even though they could be killed. The key: “They believe Allah grants them military victories and any successful campaigns of murdering unarmed people is proof of Allah’s will!” And, after they control an area, impose Sharia, then the choice is “convert to Islam, leave, live as a slave, or die”

Of course the PROVEN FACT from experience will be denied by some “Kind and Nice people!”

Jan 11, 2013 3:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
T.J.McBears wrote:

bombing raids—eliminating future welfare recipients–GOOD

Jan 11, 2013 3:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

@sensi
You are a board stalking child troll who stalks the boards and only posts personal attacks to feel like a big shot and like you can push people around (LOL).
We can do without your kind on the comment boards.

Jan 11, 2013 4:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

Remember folks France was NOT stuck in Vietnam for 15 years (1945-1960) after doing the exact same actions then, for the same claimed reasons.
Same for the US.
Glad someone put the world straight on history and glad France and the US were not in wars in Vietnam for a combined 25 years against the “communist rebels”.
What was I thinking?
“10 hours ago – BAMAKO, Mali — France sent armed forces into combat in Mali on … “French forces brought their support this afternoon to Malian army units to fight against terrorist elements …”
“In April 1962, John Kenneth Galbraith warned Kennedy of the “danger we shall replace the French as a colonial force in the area and bleed as the French did.” By 1963, there were 16,000 American military personnel in South Vietnam, up from Eisenhower’s 900 advisors.”

Jan 11, 2013 4:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GeorgeBrown wrote:

France is doing the right thing. AQIM (i.e. Al-Qaeda) would like nothing better than to topple nations in North Africa and establish a new caliphate based on Sharia law. What is France supposed to do? Ignore the request for aid coming from the government of Mali and allow the Muslim terrorists to topple the Malian government and butcher anyone who disagrees with their medieval way of “thinking”? Vive la France!

Jan 11, 2013 7:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
naoufelabs wrote:

Colonialism in France will not change. France hungry for natural resources, exploit their tourism projects, and doing anything against Islam to impose its rotten and stupid culture.
Napoleon’s complex

Jan 11, 2013 7:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
westernshame wrote:

many have overlooked this comment…

Nikland wrote:

Well the rebels are the majority people of Mali and they want to get rid of the government that wants to stay clinging to power. So why is the widely unpopular government being supports and propped up to rule over the Mali people.

“their” public answer is that Islamic extremest are now running the rebellion and they have to be stopped. which is true ( the Islamic extremists, not the rebellion ) but they leave out that these Islamic extremists are the same people that NATO armed to overthrow Libya.

another possible reason for France to be going above and beyond to support this government may have something to do with the Gold, phosphates, kaolin, salt, limestone, uranium, bauxite, iron ore, manganese, tin as well as the untapped copper and oil deposits found beneath her soil.

Mali is one of the poorest countries on the planet, without enough clean drinking water for its population. so where does all the revenue from its natural resources go?

if we follow the flow of resources and the consequent money trail, it will become crystal clear exactly why France is so interested in supporting the overthrown government.

Jan 12, 2013 10:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
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