Rallies assail Obama's proposed gun curbs

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americanguy wrote:

Whatever.

Jan 19, 2013 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
Domjohn wrote:

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Jan 19, 2013 10:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
LVNV wrote:

More media misreporting!
No assault rife was used at Newtown.
Did you not see the video?
It was found in the trunk of his car.

Jan 19, 2013 11:05am EST  --  Report as abuse
SavageNation wrote:

Cowardly Liberal Reporting. The headline should read:

Citizen rallies across U.S. defend against Obama’s Attack on the Constitution.

Jan 19, 2013 11:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
bobber1956 wrote:

rgrowley
And I want to conduct it! I have done a few for FEMA-obama would never pass.

Jan 19, 2013 11:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
idonthinkso wrote:

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
–Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764)

Jan 19, 2013 11:13am EST  --  Report as abuse
randburg100 wrote:

I want to buy a German 88 mm anti-tank gun..that should be legal under US laws…besides, it will scare the doodoos out of any would be burglars…and as a back up, a couple of MG42s with 200,000 rounds of ammunition….and if things get boring, a Bofors anti-aircraft cannon…and I’ll keep it in my front room to deter intruders…..Obamamamamamama shouldn’t have any problem with that lot?

Jan 19, 2013 11:13am EST  --  Report as abuse
randburg100 wrote:

I want to buy a German 88 mm anti-tank gun..that should be legal under US laws…besides, it will scare the doodoos out of any would be burglars…and as a back up, a couple of MG42s with 200,000 rounds of ammunition….and if things get boring, a Bofors anti-aircraft cannon…and I’ll keep it in my front room to deter intruders…..Obamamamamamama shouldn’t have any problem with that lot?

Jan 19, 2013 11:13am EST  --  Report as abuse
ed.ross wrote:

Lolz… hilarious to watch the pro gun folks flex their non-exsistant political muscles. I’m actually a reluctant supporter of gun rights, but the irrationally wacko behavior of the gun lobby and their supporters discourages me from wanting to hitch my wagon to that train.

Obama made no effort or meaningful commitment to take their guns away in his first term, and the NRA still spent everything they had trying to block his reelection to no avail for some reason. Now Obama, prompted by horrific tragedy, aware that no matter what he does or doesn’t do he won’t have the NRA’s support, and now equally aware that the NRA’s support or enimity doesn’t really matter that much- now he doesn’t have much of a reason not to cave into pressure from the moderate majority of Americans who want to see some action in response to the recent massacres. Lolz @ the gun lobby.

Jan 19, 2013 11:16am EST  --  Report as abuse
curtisdacrab wrote:

it would be interesting to trace back the history of the “shooters” who have done these terrible deeds. i would not be surprised to find a common denominator. something like al-kida’s brain washing of the young and impressionable to carry explosives into crowded areas and detonate the device.
obama’s hatred of America and guns is well known. it would not be hard to envision another scheme like “fast and furious” that would target gun owners and the outlawing of their guns but creating numerous mass murders by brain washed youth. the public is so stupid they will believe it’s the guns fault not the operator, as we are told by the controlled media.
is it possible our government could/would be behind such a plan?
food for thought if you are able.

Jan 19, 2013 11:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
AndM wrote:

“Force phone companies to restrict Data Network if Phone is traveling faster then 5mph” – this idea could put Apple and Google out of business – most commuter trains travel faster than 5mph. I agree people should not use phones while driving, but this idea needs to be refined.

Jan 19, 2013 11:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
BigJeff333 wrote:

Not sure what the relevance of Obama’s papers is. Maybe they burnt up in the same fire that took W’s military records.

There are 21 other measures aside from the all-consuming assault rifle ban. Many of those dealt with the other 99% of guns as well.

Jan 19, 2013 11:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
WillD wrote:

The winds of Politics should never blow through the Constitution like it was written in the sand

Jan 19, 2013 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse

“High Noon”……that’s nice. no extremism in that.

Jan 19, 2013 11:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
RSaltyDog wrote:

And while these people gather so is the intelligence gathered on them. One hand gun for protection I get that. Automatic weapons to rise up against your government is a joke. It didn’t work in the US Revolution and would not now.

Jan 19, 2013 11:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
sgreco1970 wrote:

Oddly enough, the right spent many years trying to tell strangers in america who they can and cannot marry -and now they’re screaming about their freedoms to buy guns. Sucks when the shoe’s on the other foot, eh? Want some support from the cetner and the left so daddy doesnt take all your guns away? better start doing the same first or you can let them pry them from your cold dead hands. We’ll just watch that happen on the news.

Jan 19, 2013 11:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
sgreco1970 wrote:

Oddly enough, the right spent many years trying to tell strangers in america who they can and cannot marry -and now they’re screaming about their freedoms to buy guns. Sucks when the shoe’s on the other foot, eh? Want some support from the cetner and the left so daddy doesnt take all your guns away? better start doing the same first or you can let them pry them from your cold dead hands. We’ll just watch that happen on the news.

Jan 19, 2013 11:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
Acetracy wrote:

You just have to wonder how much the arms industry in the US is orchestrating these wacko reactions to putting some sanity into our gun sales.

To quote Jefferson is absolutely ridiculous since Jefferson was writing at a time when not a single gun, rifle or firearm could shoot multiple rounds of ammunition.

Besides, most deaths by firearms are committed my people who personally know the victim. The idea that firearms are owned to protect the owner doesn’t jive with the murder/suicide stats.

The rants that I read against any kind of gun control sound like rants of the KKK I would hear in the South during the 1960s civil rights movement.

Jan 19, 2013 11:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
brian123321 wrote:

He used four handguns the media has been misreporting this fact. It came out a few days ago. The Newtown gunman had the rifle in the trunk of his car not in the school!

Jan 19, 2013 11:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
liveonmyfeet wrote:

Let’s use logic forzapista and leave your “gun nut” aspersion behind …how are “assault rifles” the threat if they’re used in less than 1.2% of the gun crimes or suicides?

Why is it people think gun free zones are safe when FBI statistics show the most homicides with guns occur in said places? And the least number of gun homicides occur in places where legal gun ownership is highest?

What is exactly logical about outlawing high capacity magazines when their use in crime is minuscule compared to the BILLIONS owned by law-abiding citizens?

Since Connecticut already banned assault rifles with few exceptions, it was already illegal to steal guns, to kill someone, to bring them on school grounds, what exactly of what Obama has proposed will work to prevent other instances of these types of mass shootings?

NOTHING. It’s control of guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens, NOT criminals.

Jan 19, 2013 11:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
tnazar wrote:

There’s one born every minute – and they seem to be in LaPierre’s hip pocket. Can’t people read?

No one wants ALL your guns you fools, just those whose only purpose is killing humans. Unless you’re a nutcase stockpiling for a flaming exit from this life, you have nothing to worry about. All LaPierre wants is your money.

Jan 19, 2013 11:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
idonthinkso wrote:

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.
—Noah Webster

Jan 19, 2013 11:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
tnazar wrote:

There’s one born every minute – and they seem to be in LaPierre’s hip pocket. Can’t people read?

No one wants ALL your guns you fools, just those whose only purpose is killing humans. Unless you’re a nutcase stockpiling for a flaming exit from this life, you have nothing to worry about. All LaPierre wants is your money.

Jan 19, 2013 11:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
bobber1956 wrote:

WillD

The winds of Politics should never blow through the Constitution like it was written in the sand

VERY WELL PUT-THANKS

Jan 19, 2013 11:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
wrote:

These unpleasant and horrific incidents will not be solved by removing rights and freedoms to Americans, because criminals have always managed to get their weapons and stealing them or buying them on the market negro.El problem is not the weapons, the problem of beings are humanos.Vengo a country where the government gradually removed all of their most basic citizen rights, and believe me they did not know the man who treads this earth more hideous, hopeless and terrible reality. Implement a deeper check when selling weapons and attack crime, are the most important aspects of this whole mess. For we can not disarmed honest citizens at the mercy of criminals because …………. simple.Y honor justice and honesty, citizens should have the right to defend itself and that not have the resources that the politicians, to pay for bodyguards and custodians.

Jan 19, 2013 11:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
saavedra wrote:

Guys, it’s embarassing you projecting your inadecuacies through lack of ‘fire-power’. Try Ciales or Viagra.

Jan 19, 2013 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
justinolcb wrote:

Mr Wealth Re-distribution just gotta new name, Mr Constituion Re-writer

Jan 19, 2013 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
idonthinkso wrote:

f”orzapista wrote:
All hail the gunnuts, out in force to whine about their “rights” while always ignoring their reponsibilites. Typical Americans.
Gotta love how the gunnuts will always try to avoid the debate about guns by somehow trying to use the car argument or the alcohol argument.
Cars are not guns, alcohol is not a gun, your attempt at logic is poor.”

The logic is not poor at all, you just miss the point. It’s about personal responsibility.

Forks don’t make people fat, people overeating does. Cars don’t kill people, those driving them do.

The root cause of these tragedies is not guns, there have always been guns, but only in the last 10-15 years have there been this kind of violence. Is there a link between these drugs parents are giving their kids, video games, and other factors?

Teens in the 40′s, 50′s, 60′s, 70′s all had access to semi-auto weapons that could be fired as fast as one could pull the trigger, and since WW2 weapons with multi-round magazines have been available. Why were these tragedies true rarities in the past, but are almost commonplace now? It’s not the guns.

Jan 19, 2013 11:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
olemanallen wrote:

My dad, who was a professional truck driver, always told us boys that a vehicle was a dangerous weapon if not used properly.
I have never seen a gun jump up and shoot on it’s own; neither have I seen a vehicle start up and drive itself, nor a bottle empty itself into someone’s mouth. These are ALL inanimate objects and require people to initiate action. The common denominator? Human behavior!
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”….Benjamin Franklin

Jan 19, 2013 11:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
idonthinkso wrote:

“To quote Jefferson is absolutely ridiculous since Jefferson was writing at a time when not a single gun, rifle or firearm could shoot multiple rounds of ammunition.”

Jefferson and the founding fathers wanted Americans to have the same firearms the Army did. You missed the point of the 2nd Amendment. Do you really think Jefferson would only wnat us to have muskets?

You comment about rants is nonsense.

Jan 19, 2013 12:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
idonthinkso wrote:

“misterjag wrote:
What kind of person is inspired to organize gun rallies the day after twenty first graders are massacred?”

The day after? Not much on facts are we?

Jan 19, 2013 12:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
misterjag wrote:

Jefferson didn’t like the idea of maintaining and sustaining a large standing army. He preferred to have a militia composed of able bodied men that could be activated in time of need. Note that the militia was composed of able bodied men. That meant men that their communities defined as suitable to bear arms. It excluded the criminal or mentally ill.

Jan 19, 2013 12:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DDagger wrote:

Gotta love how gun control advocates will always marginalize the carnage on US freeways as something acceptable. Apparently these thousands of children are not worth the effort to save one of them.

Jan 19, 2013 12:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jjparkerjim wrote:

Why is it that the Left feels the need to pass a law or regulate every facet of our lives? In New York you can’t purchase a soft drink larger than 20OZ, You can no longer donate food to the homeless because they can’t check the fat and salt content, you can’t consume transfat, or salt. But you can walk into any fanily planning center and abort your baby? There is something really out of sorts with this mind set.

Jan 19, 2013 12:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sbeebe wrote:

Do you remember the LA riots? Yea, who and what was there to protect you? The police where clumped in groups and unable to respond. What about New Orlean, any cops around? I always want a gun to defend myself, and yes, I want my gun(s) to have the same firepower as the bad guys. I live in the country. The only thing 911 does for me is to let the deputies know where to arrive in 20 minutes to start the investigation. That is way too late…. NO! For people in a rural setting, if we don’t have a gun, we are in big troubles if there is a bad guy(s).

Jan 19, 2013 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
alvin1435 wrote:

It is a blood on your hand, you are all as guilty as the killer of Newtown, CT. What is a military assault rifle doing in the hand of the people? Ban all the guns and we will be safe, knowing that if theres a crazy or psychopath in the street, at its not 20 kids or 26 people will die at one setting alone…Another 900 lives lost after a month of the incident..What evidence you need or studies,,to prove to you, Gun profiteers are using you all to put a blood money in their pockets.

Jan 19, 2013 12:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DavidH68 wrote:

RSaltyDog- there were no automatic (or semi-automatic)weapons in the Revolutionary War. But as best I can tell, a rise up against the government worked out quite well for the American people (unless you know something the rest of us don’t).

Jan 19, 2013 12:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DDagger wrote:

Obama and Feinstien have contributed more to gun and ammo sales than any people in the history of the USA especially AR15′s, several million more in circulation now. I think we can give them credit for 250K new NRA members too. As they both state they support the 2nd amendment, no way they can suggests a law not grandfathered for current gun owners. Do people who support these politicians really think they are preventing gun violence?

Jan 19, 2013 12:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Genrule wrote:

How about a ban on violent movies and video games? My wife and I went to the movies the other night and ALL the trailers were about movies the glorified violence and killing…whether it be humans, zombies or whatever. Nothing but shoot em up, slash/burn and explosion glorified to music. Do we not think that this glorification of violence is the root cause? A constant appetite of this message that telegraphs to our youth that violence is the path to solving your frustations is sure to be a major contributing factor here.

Jan 19, 2013 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ZackShoemaker wrote:

He wants to ban guns, instead of put ANY blame on the pills or Gun-free zones, at least that what his lobby, I mean ‘Administration’ wants him to do.

Jan 19, 2013 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xuyet wrote:

Cars and alcohol may not be guns but the people they kill every year are real. If we were really interested in bettering life in America we would follow the numbers and deal with the problems with the highest death trends. That would leave guns off the table. All most people are interested in is another episode of “American Drama”. If politicians really cared about our children they would get the same protection that is reserved for the children of the ruling class.

Jan 19, 2013 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Carmi wrote:

I want some nuclear weapons, sarin gas, and a nice Abrams tank. I’m just a collector who sometimes like to do a little target practice.

Jan 19, 2013 12:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GS... wrote:

Ok guys.. lets be adults about this… The right to bear arms is an inalienable right. The right to marry whoever you want is not although I agree you should be permitted to do so. Drunk driving is a terrible problem which needs to be more effectively resolved; however, it is a separate problem with no bearing on the solution to this problem.Despite being pro second amendment, I admit there is a gun violence problem in this country, and, not withstanding the fact it is not the leading method of homicide, murder or assault in this country. We should still make an effort to make our society safer through responsible debate and serious consideration of how we might do that within the framework of the constitution. In my professional experience we find ultimate solutions to the problems we encounter by performing root cause analysis and then addressing the cause(s) instead of the symptom. Perhaps if we could all back down on the rhetoric, we could begin a reasoned, adult, logical and thorough conversation in this country to solve our many problems… violence regardless of methodology, structural deficits and out of control spending, unnecessary costs of bureaucracy wasting money meant for our chosen entitlement programs, economic/social/ educational disparity.. just to name a few. With regard to spurious arguments, the second amendment allows for arms not artillery or military vessels which were both known and in use at the time of the drafting and is clear from reading the rest of the Constitution that a militia referred to an individually armed citizen who was not under the control of the government, except, during times they chose to accept employment in the government… i.e. when a reservist is called to active duty or a citizen chooses to join the active military. So, shall we be adults and discuss this as such?

Jan 19, 2013 12:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

Gun control has been supported by the Hilter, Stalin, the KKK and many other scumbags around the world.

IF Standard Capacity Magazines ( also know as “hi-cap-clips to the grossly mis-informed) and Semi-auto Rifles (also know as “Assault Rifles” to the Grossly Mis-informed) ARE NOT BANNED, then Obama’s Executive orders, and Background check proposal will help reduce “gun Violence”, even though it’s already on the decline.

Jan 19, 2013 12:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

@Forzipita, Having a Car is a privilage. Having a gun is a Right.

Jan 19, 2013 12:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
eddietheblur wrote:

In the United Kingdom firearms are tightly controlled by law.

The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world with 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in 2009 compared to the United States’ number of 3.0 (over 40 times higher)

Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2009: 9,146
Number of Murders by firearms, Britain*, 2008: 39

*Since Britain’s population is 20% that of US, this is equivalent (on a per capita basis) to 195 US murders.

Can’t argue with the facts.

Jan 19, 2013 12:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
assmuncher wrote:

Broey77: Genius. Well put.

Jan 19, 2013 12:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse

What part of “shall not be infringed” do you gun-grabbers NOT understand? There was nothing in there about exempting semi-automatic AR15 weapons or high capacity magazines. If you don’t like the second amendment or you want to change it, then fine. There’s a process in the constitution for that. But this garbage about “well, the founders didn’t envision semi-automatic weapons, yada, yada, yada” is garbage. There’s a process for amending the amendment. Knock yourselves out. Wyoming is enacting a law making it a felony in the state to attempt enforcement of any federal restriction on semiautomatic weapons or high capacity magazines. Wyoming definitely has the right idea.

Jan 19, 2013 12:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kablooy1 wrote:

The left wing anti-gunners will ride this wave as long as possible. They were waiting for something like this tragedy to boost their careers.
Anti-gunner politicians are nothing but liars leading the ignorant.

Jan 19, 2013 12:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
avliska wrote:

The looniness of my fellow countrymen regarding guns is frightening, sad, shocking, and a bit comical, all at the same time. If we can’t get the common sense, and rather minor, proposed restrictions adopted after Newtown’s massacre of children, we never will. I think it’s time to change the 2nd Amendment, as that’s the usual fall-back position of the gun nuts when things get a little hot for them. They have no other argument that rises to the level of common sense, so this probably is the path they will force us to take.

Jan 19, 2013 12:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jjsbr549 wrote:

I doubt any of the nra or gun crowd even read the proposals. Doesnt matter what he said. If he had removed every law on the books that concern guns, they wouldnt have liked that either.
their hate knows no bounds

Jan 19, 2013 12:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sandyhoax wrote:

In the wake of sandy hoax? Show me one picture of 600 kid getting evacuated? Oh you can’t cause they were never there! Pictures of the firehouse at time of evacuation were nearly empty. I’m just not that stupid to believe these lies. Columbine showed kids evacuating and showed the killer on the schools video cams. We will never see Andy hoaxes security cams guarantee that!

Jan 19, 2013 12:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PPhermit wrote:

To hell with all the killings and accidents of guns I just have to have my toys and don’t give a damn how many lives that would be saved with more gun regulations. I want to add a couple of boozas anda couple of rocket launchers to my arms collection to play with.

Jan 19, 2013 12:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Far cheaper than putting armed guards in schools (though not a bad idea) would be to simply allow concealed carry holders to carry in schools. A CHL holder in Texas is 16X less likely to be convicted of a crime than a member of the public at large. That’s a fact. So why not allow such an individual to legally carry in a school?

It’s time we stopped turning our schools into defense free crime zones by disarming the law abiding.

Jan 19, 2013 12:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
davn8r wrote:

Technically speaking there is no right to bear firearms. The second amendment guarantees the right to bear ARMS not firearms. If you read the Federalist Papers it is clear that the 2nd Amendment was constructed to arm a militia against outside invaders since the new nation had no military at the time. It is astounding how this has been construed to mean that the average citizen should have access to any weapon at any time.

Clearly not what the founding fathers intended.

BTW – for those who don’t know, the Federalist Papers are a collection of articles written by the drafters of the constitution explaining it to the general populace of the times.

Jan 19, 2013 12:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
bates148 wrote:

@Broey77

I wouldn’t be opposed to those measures. Unfortunately many of those measures would affect the younger folks, a pro-Obama group. I doubt he would even consider them.

Jan 19, 2013 12:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
nln2013 wrote:

It is outrageous that Cuomo, Obama and the entire gun control “elite” are further victimizing the children of Newtown, using their blood to grease the wheels of a singular political agenda. They are contemptuous of the rights afforded citizens by the second amendment, and they will go to any length to tear down those rights. It is widely acknowledged by all parties that what Cuomo rammed through in New York, what Obama wants to do similarly at the federal level will achieve nothing to prevent what occurred in Aurora, Colorado or Newtown, Connecticut etc. They really don’t care of course, because that is not their objective. As we see almost on a daily basis around the world, it is overwhelmingly evident that laws are absolutely impotent, cannot / will not deter the actions of deranged (commonly suicidal) individuals that are bent on inflicting this kind of carnage. So what do the likes of Cuomo and Obama do in these cases, they prey upon blood of the victims to drive a personal political agenda. They have no problem trampling the rights of tens of millions of law abiding citizens, effectively branding them untrustworthy, solely to placate the bias of their political cronies. Absolutely pathetic.

Jan 19, 2013 12:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
act1 wrote:

The silliness of the gun advocates continues. All act as if those favoring gun control want to take away their toys. The only purpose of gun control is to bring sanity into the issue raised by the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. What are the limits? Should battlefield weaponry be in civilian hands? RPGs? Flamethrowers? Assault rifles? Gun clips each holding 30 bullets? Etc.? Should anybody be allowed to have a firearm? Like the 8-year-old girl whose father boasted that he had just bought her an assault rifle? A person with mental problems? A felon? How do we draw the line? These are questions not properly addressed by the gun backers because there are many who seem to not want any form of control.

Jan 19, 2013 12:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kniht wrote:

Referencing an article by Ben Garrett I read recently, even Ronald Reagan, who was viewed as a supporter of the second amendment and the poster child of modern conservatism supported some measures similar to what Obama is advocating. In a 1991 op-ed for the New York Times, Reagan voiced his support for the Brady Bill, saying the 1981 assassination attempt might have never happened if the Brady Bill had been law. Three years later, Congress had passed the Brady Bill and was working on another piece of gun control legislation, a ban on assault weapons. Reagan joined former Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter in a letter published in the Boston Globe that called on Congress to pass a ban on assault weapons.

I am a gun owner who does not and will never belong to the NRA or similar lobbies. I’d be too embarrassed to belong to an organization who thinks putting armed guards in all schools and arming teachers is an answer. I also wouldn’t want them spending my money on things like the ridiculous video they recently produced about Obama and his children. Have they forgotten Reagan and Ford’s positons on assault weapons? Guess that wouldn’t go over well with conservatives. Lets be honest, the NRA and other gun lobbies sole purpose is to represent Gun Manufacturers and their revenues/profits…not the American people. P.S. I voted for Mitt…not Obama….and Obama is right on this one.

Jan 19, 2013 12:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
toadstool11 wrote:

Reuters, It has been over thirty days since the terrible shooting and you still can’t get the facts right. There was no “assault rifle” used at the Sandy Hook shooting. It was 4 pistols. There is no excuse for this shoddy reporting.

Jan 19, 2013 12:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CF137 wrote:

Why can’t any of you gun grabbers define for us what an “assault-style weapon” is?

Jan 19, 2013 1:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ralphos wrote:

If you gun nuts and that is what you all are nuts afraid of every possible boogie man out there, would quit killing 36000 people every year mostly innocent by the way. you would not have that problem you and only you are to blame.

Jan 19, 2013 1:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse

for davn8r:

You’re wrong. Just plain wrong.

“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference.” — George Washington

“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” Thomas Jefferson

Jan 19, 2013 1:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Wassup wrote:

The ludicrous hypocracy of proposed gun laws for political expediency by Obama and Biden are ridiculous and without merit. Since they are aimed at law abiding citizens for some unknown agenda Obama has, makes it doubly stupid and illogical.

Jan 19, 2013 1:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
royevatom wrote:

The United States of America is the largest purveyor of weapons in the world.
The number of weapons held by the public is 88.9 guns per 100 people, far out numbering any other nation.
The latest figures from the Grimmett Congressional Report state that there are 270 million guns privately held by the public.

Fascism in this country is wrapped in the American flag. The War with those who support it is just beginning.
If you read the comments on the web sites that contain articles about gun control you will see that those who are anti gun control are the most adamant about restricting the rights of anyone who disagrees with them. (They are the first to justify themselves and the first to restrict you rights to seek justice legally).
I watched pretty girls in the Fourth of July parade dressed in short shorts and carrying wooden rifles that they twirled around and stood at attention with. We have seen this same thing or something much like it through out history.

The exploitation of weapons by the people of this nation will not protect the rights of it’s citizens.

Only Laws can do that.

Jan 19, 2013 1:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Saturn88 wrote:

Yes, gun “rights” are under attack as they should be. Japan reported less than 20 gun deaths last year. Japan has almost no guns. The correlation is obvious. Countries that have a lot of guns report high numbers of gun deaths. It really doesn’t matter whether guns used were technically assault rifles. Our citizens own half of all guns in the world. There’s something very wrong with that picture.

Statistically, guns are almost never used in self defense. A man with a gun in Tucson when Gabrielle Giffords was shot lined up to take out the shooter; one problem, it wasn’t the shooter, but a citizen who was trying to take him down. The whole gun “thing” in the US is just nuts; every knows it, even the gun owners. If you really think you need an arsenal to feel safe, maybe you should see a counselor.

Jan 19, 2013 1:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
repar wrote:

All guns that are sold in the US should be registered and should be tested in the factory–their rifling and fired bullets should be put into the registry, too. That way if and/or when the weapon is used in the commission of a crime, it can be traced. The producers of weapons should bear some responsibility. Guns kill and guns with lots of bullets kill lots of people. Americans who propone for semi-automatic weapons are biting off their own noses to spite themselves. I’m not sure what exactly they are afraid of–the government??, but owning more guns isn’t going to protect them. Standing up to the gun lobby and the gun producers and making them produce less guns, and less powerful guns, is the saner way to go. Then perhaps we can demilitarize our police forces, too, so they don’t have to always be playing catch up with the bad guys on who has the biggest and baddest weapons!! Gun makers are NOT rooting for gun control, folks! Let’s ease back on the throttle a little and think about who is actually benefitting from this insanity.

Jan 19, 2013 1:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Britain has the second highest violent crime rate in the EU. Higher than the US. Higher than South Africa. And they have no guns.

Riddle me that one gun grabbers.

You can kill with a bomb, with a knife, with a subway train or a pair of shoe laces.

So by golly, we better ban shoe laces.

Jan 19, 2013 1:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
zenthrop2 wrote:

Obama should lead by example and abolish guns at the White House. Meanwhile, I will keep my INALIENABLE right to protect myself and my family from ducks, thieves, drug dealers, Teamster union thugs, and tyrants above the law.

Jan 19, 2013 2:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
rokid wrote:

@Broey77 – “Drunk Drivers kill more people each day then guns do with room to spare.”

In 2010 there were 30,470 firearm related deaths in the U.S. In that same year there were 10,228 drunk driving deaths.

Jan 19, 2013 3:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Gaius_Baltar wrote:

Gun nuts exercising their sexual fetish.

Jan 19, 2013 4:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PPhermit wrote:

The polls says 70% of the citizens wants stricter gun controls so I guess the government should obey what the NRA wants so the gun manufacturers can make huge profis of their killing toys . The majority of the people doesn’t matter any more.

Jan 19, 2013 4:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PPhermit wrote:

I have yet to read or hear of any good excuse from the gun-nuts about owning semi-automatic, assaut rifles, thirty and more capacity magazines. No logical reason for any of that. And the concealed weapons might be justified in carrying if you was carrying a large sum of money to the bank.Idiots keep comparing guns to driving cars__but they don’t want the same regulation for their guns that is on their cars.

Jan 19, 2013 4:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

At “high noon”? God help us. We’re allowing spoiled children to decide policy for our nation. A majority of Americans want some restrictions on gun ownership. Don’t blame Obama. Blame us, the majority of Americans. It’s what WE want. This is a democracy. Deal with it. Or leave and take your rightwing authoritarian dreams with you.

Jan 19, 2013 4:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
QuietThinker wrote:

No one has mentioned Mexico. Holes in our gun laws are how the drug cartels obtain their weapons. A few dozen innocents dying here gets all the attention – meanwhile thousands of innocents are being slaughtered by the drug cartels in Mexico using weapons easily obtained in the US thanks to the NRA.

Jan 19, 2013 4:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

zenthrop2: That’s a really intelligent post. Take away guns from our President’s security. Smart. You’re a real genius. I don’t think our President carries a gun. If you want a fair parallel, say that Obama’s guns should be taken away. I don’t think he’ll mind. But no one is calling for a ban on guns, nor is Obama calling for your local police to give up their guns, so don’t call on our President to have HIS security give up their guns.

Furthermore, don’t blame the President. A majority of Americans are demanding that there be better controls on gun ownership. He’s our President and he would be remiss if he didn’t listen to us. It’s what WE want. He’s just doing what we elected him for. The gun-obsessed minority will just have to deal with a few reasonable restrictions, or be fined or arrested. Wipe away your tears, suck it up, and be a big boy. No one is going to take your precious guns away.

Jan 19, 2013 5:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
americanguy wrote:

These are all from different news sources.
“Dec 20, 2012 – And yet, gun crime has been declining in the U.S. Firearm murders are down, as is overall gun violence – even as gun ownership increases.”
“Overall gun homicides down almost 14% since expiration of the assault weapons ban.”
“There were 77 firearms murders in DC in 2010, down 22%”
“Murders of School-Age Children Down 42% in 2011″
“Houston police reported 198 homicides last year, down from 457 in 2011″

I think that just about does it for the gun control people, unless of course laws are based on fantasy.

Jan 19, 2013 5:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Avliska writes, “I think it’s time to change the 2nd Amendment…”

You mean “repeal” the Second Amendment? You do realize what that takes, right? A 2/3′s majority vote of ‘Yea’ in the federal House and Senate, plus at least a simple majority vote ‘Yea’ in the legislatures of 3/4′s of the states. (I need to re-check that, because it may require a 2/3′s majority of 3/4′s of the states’legislatures.)

You know, there’s a place between New York, New England and California, it’s called America.

Good luck with that, “change the 2nd Amendment” plan, you’re going to need it. Incidentally, all a repeal of the Second Amendment (which ultimately protects the First Amendment)is going to do is create a massive underground black market for guns.

It would be as inane as was the amendment on prohibition (the only amendment ever repealed), and would make criminals of over half the nation’s citizens.

What’s the gov going to do? Lock up half the country? Just like prohibition, it would spur growth of organized crime, and the gov would be helpless to stop it, and the underground market.

Take a look at the gun laws in most of Latin America. In most of those countries, only the military, the police, the elites, and criminals and psychopaths have guns. And look what a Utopia Mexico is, isn’t it?

Jan 19, 2013 5:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
psittacid wrote:

To the rest of the world:
Not all Americans are in love with guns. This is so embarrassing.

Jan 19, 2013 5:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
psittacid wrote:

It is funny how these same people who say that government is useless and ineffective think that there is a well-orchestrated, nefarious plot to enslave them by taking away their semiautomatic weapons. The irony is palpable. (NRA members, you can look up that word.)

Jan 19, 2013 5:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tracing wrote:

As an admitted confirmed substance abuser the President is INELIGIBLE to buy possess or transfer a firearm in the USA

If you answer YES to any of the ATF questions you are denied, he CANT answer NO to all, without perjury charges being filed based on previous public statements.

Your President is INELIGIBLE to possess a firearm.

And thats a fact

And no one can PARDON him and allow it, because he was never charged and convicted

The form doesnt ask if you were CHARGED, it ask if you USED ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES

In the Presidents words, he did

Jan 19, 2013 5:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tracing wrote:

psittacid
another apologist, leave the country

Jan 19, 2013 5:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

retired_sandman: Britain has a higher rate of gun violence than the US? Where to you get this crap from, Glen Beck’s website? Here are a few examples proving that your statement is wrong. If you can prove that the US has less gun violence than other developed nations, please do so. That’s would be news to most of us.

http://sandiegofreepress.org/2013/01/some-factual-gun-statistics-part-2-of-a-cultural-comparison-gun-violence-in-the-us-and-europe/

This is from a libertarian website. It’s attacking some exaggerated leftwing claims: “The total homicide rate for the US was 4.1 times that of the UK and 4.5 times that for Australia. Still not good, but nowhere close to the “30 times” Mr. Zakaria laments.” http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/gun_violence_in_america_is_off_the_chart.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Jan 19, 2013 5:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Speaker2 wrote:

After reading this, I can tell you I am less afraid of criminals or even rogue government compared to some of these in-bred gun lovers. The majority of US citizens do not own guns and we have a right to be protected from the gun nuts who do.

Jan 19, 2013 5:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
saywhatt286 wrote:

What are they going to do, bring their assault rifles and have a shoot out? High noon? Isn’t that a western? Maybe we have been taken over by Hollywood.

Jan 19, 2013 5:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bfstk wrote:

Those that abet child killers can look each other in the eye and beat their breast about their 2cnd amendment rights while depriving everyone else of the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Guns are for killing and handguns primarily are for killing people. Assault weapons are also for killing people and intimidation. Neither are necessary and banning them except for law enforcement is sensible and necessary. Increasing penalties for felons with firearms or ammunition is sorely needed and there should be no judicial discretion on sentencing for criminals caught with either firearms or ammunition. An additional sentence of 20 years tagged on to any other sentence should be adequate to deter criminals from carrying or using guns. If not, give them a life sentence for gun possession or use or carrying ammunition. It’s time to get much tougher as many of the horrific crimes by former felons with firearms are preventable. In addition, young people who carry guns or ammunition also need much stiffer sentences not a pass due to their age. Gun owners should be made completely responsible for securing their weapons at home and if they are used in a crime by a family member, the gun owner needs to get serious jail time for negligence. having a gun is a potent responsibility that gun owners have skirted for many years with lame excuses and stupidity that just shouldn’t cut it.

Jan 19, 2013 5:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
tracing wrote:

Gun-control advocates on Sunday plan to hold a National Gun Prevention Sabbath, where they say 150 houses of worship will call on the faithful to advocate for an “actionable plan to prevent gun violence.”

The godless now will use god to advance their movement

Hilarious

Jan 19, 2013 5:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
steveorlando wrote:

wow, what a turn out.. not.. goes to show that the majority still support gun control and the only real opposition is lobbyist gun mfg money and a small loud group pretending to be the majority..

Jan 19, 2013 6:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
william117 wrote:

I agree most people want change ,but what I do not understand is that it is all talk no action.

Only citizen action will work??? If not nothing will change

If people really want to show support for assault weapon control, high
capacity clip control and more background checks all they have to do is
organize million man marches in New York, Chicago, LA & DC. Just
posting ,talking,twittering, Facebook, talk radio & tv are not
nearly enough old fashioned action is

Jan 19, 2013 6:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bubba311 wrote:

There are many millions of NRA members and gun owners, and very few of them fit the caricature so hysterically put forth by gun ownership opponents. Right or wrong, many law-abiding gun owners are convinced that President Obama aspires ultimately to confiscate all their guns. Gun control advocates need to calm down, back off their histrionics, admit to some reasonable arguments from their opponents, and debate this complex issue calmly and in good faith.

Jan 19, 2013 6:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
misterjag wrote:

idonthinkso,

If you’d bothered to read the article before commenting, you’d know that Eric Reed, the organizer, got the idea for the rallies the day after the Newtown massacre.

Thus my question,

“What kind of person is inspired to organize gun rallies the day after twenty first graders are massacred?”

Jan 19, 2013 6:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse

These rallies in and of themselves suggest an unhealthy and distorted view of guns.

Jan 19, 2013 6:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
flashrooster wrote:

tracing: So let me get this straight. You’re suggesting that God is a gun advocate and people who support some reasonable restrictions on gun ownership are godless? Am I reading that right? LOL. Okay. Whatever.

Back when swords were the weapons of choice, Jesus made the statement, live by the sword, die by the sword. Had Jesus been making that statement today, I’m sure it would have been, live by the gun, die by the gun. But I’m sure I’m interpreting that wrong and that God will be angry if the evil black President tries to have our precious assault rifles banned. Certainly God loves assault rifles, right? And I’m sure Jesus would have carried a pistol, right? Do you carry a gun to church? Just curious.

Jan 19, 2013 6:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jjparkerjim wrote:

Does anyone remember the Soviet era mouth piece Pravda? There is agreat article written: America don’t give up your guns!!! This is the short version: Free Russia prior to the Bolshevik take over, was one of the most armed countries in the world. Guns swords throwing kinves were worn in public and part of the regional and national dress. 30,000 Bolsheviks disarmed millions made it a death penaty to pocess a gun. Once the public was disarmed we know the rest about what Stalin did. They go on to say do not surrender your guns, or rights to bare arms to the leftists under any circumstance it never turns out well. Take from a people whom lived it.

Jan 19, 2013 6:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Gigimoderate wrote:

Today is National Service Day. Thousands of Americans volunteering across the United States in their local communities in homeless shelters, food pantries, etc….and then you have a few crazies doing this stuff….

Jan 19, 2013 6:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
RandomName2nd wrote:

Sorry, but the idea that maintaining an armed populace will stop a tyrannical government from taking control has already proven to be a failure.
The US president now has the power to assassinate US citizens with no trial whatsoever. Judge, jury and executioner. First it was Anwar al-Awlaki. One day it might be you.
Where was the armed uprising of the outraged, well armed citizens? Oh yeah…it never happened.
If Thomas Jefferson wanted to prevent the uprising of tyrannical governments, he may have had more luck if he created some rules to prevent the corruption of the media, the congress and the money supply system, and of course the formation of the gigantic Military Industrial Complex.

Jan 19, 2013 6:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mgunn wrote:

The ULTIMATE small interest group, crafty, active, smart… lobbying against the will people as most polls show.

Jan 19, 2013 6:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Shamizar wrote:

davn8r:
You seem to have a faulty understanding of the Federalist Papers, in particular number 46 by Madison. In it you can readily see that the right to bear arms was considered necessary as a defense against the enterprises of an overly ambitious federal government, NOT just against outside forces.

Jan 19, 2013 6:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
reuterssucks1 wrote:

If the people who lost loved ones to gun violence are truly representative of the victim group, then you will be seeing a LOT of black and white photos.

Jan 19, 2013 8:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
reuterssucks1 wrote:

If you eliminate the really sophomoric attempts at sarcastic humor, the comments which display a total lack of any understanding of firearms, the actual REAL numbers concerning who is getting shot and who is doing the shooting and what is being used, there is very little left in terms of intelligent argument in favor of “gun control.” As for the strawman that “no one wants to take all your guns” I can onnly say BS. Just listen to what the controllers say when they think no one is paying attention. Most of what they propose would fo absolutely NOTHING to stop a Newton type shooting. The laws are designed to NOT stop such shootinfs, but to just make it more difficult for law abiding people to own weapons. Fact is, if they really wanted to stop such shootings, by their logic in passing these other laws, they should just make it a felony to shoot a child. Oh. Wait. They have already. How is that working out. Criminals, by definition (include crazy people here) do NOT obey laws.
It is all political theatre.

Jan 19, 2013 8:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sae-sho wrote:

i was going home from work and heard some “person” on their radio show . and said that his children said, as he bought them all assault rifles, ” how do you feel about mega clips” well daddy, , there might be a lot of bad guys. ” sorry, no npr in the middle of a saturday afternoon. let it be known, i am a damn good shot with a rifle . i choose not to have one around. you have children, grand children, they will find it and kill each other much sooner than you will protect yourself. i would rather die than have my grand child kill her brother with a gun i bought to protect me

Jan 19, 2013 8:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
OZZ wrote:

Did any Journalist find it curious that Chicago is one of the deadliest cities in the US, while having the strictest gun laws? Maybe it is too uncomfortable to explore since it does not fit their agenda.

Jan 19, 2013 10:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SamIam962 wrote:

I love the comments about how no one wants to take all your guns, only the ones designed to kill. Umm, that would be all of them. The “assault weapon” ban isn’t for Airsoft rifles.
And for the folks who have no knowledge of law or the basis of the Second Amendment, I suggest you read the Supreme Court’s decision in U.S. vs Miller where Justice McReynolds states that “Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense.” That means weapons used by the military are specifically the types of firearms PROTECTED by the Second Amendment.

Jan 19, 2013 11:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DOCKING wrote:

My son in law and I attended the rally in Columbus, OH. It was very uplifting! Many signs and one summed it up…”Freedom Is The Only Deal.”

Jan 19, 2013 11:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse

I forecast that Center-Left and Center-Right independents (1/3 of the electorate), are going to side with Republicans and conservative-swing Democrats on this issue at least.

That is, on this issue of gun control vis-a-vis our cherished Bill of Rights, especially the most important First and Second Amendments therein.

Don’t misunderstand me, as I think that support for thorough–and enforced– background checks will be fairly widespread. It’s on the issue of banning so-called “assault” weapons that the liberal Democrats will lose political momentum and gravitas.

But I believe that the root of problem of violence facing our society today is not guns, and it certainly isn’t because of the vast majority of law-abiding citizens who own firearms; rather it is the problem of the detection and treatment of severe mental illness.

Incidentally, mass murder gun violence, per capita, peaked in the United States in the late 1920′s.

Jan 19, 2013 11:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CmdrBuzz wrote:

tnazar wrote:

“There’s one born every minute – and they seem to be in LaPierre’s hip pocket. Can’t people read?

No one wants ALL your guns you fools, just those whose only purpose is killing humans.”

And all the criminals and gang members are going to turn in all those guns they have whose only purpose is to kill humans, right? Among those people, that includes all guns. Sure will be wonderful when all the criminals are unarmed. Dream on simpleton.

Jan 19, 2013 11:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GavinInTucson wrote:

Forget about whether or not an “assault rifle” was used in the killing. We had an “assault rifle” ban in effect from 1994-2004. It HAD NO EFFECT in crime-statistics during it’s time.

In fact, gun violence has gone down since it’s sunset.

Jan 20, 2013 12:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
jkillough wrote:

500 people in Denver. Oh, my…

Jan 20, 2013 12:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
sbob850 wrote:

There was no assault rifle used at Sandy Hook. The MSM and the Snake Eric Holdup are lying. The Police Investigation in not complete and the liars are trying to ram a gun ban down our throats. They squeal about the AK-47 because of it’s looks, I have never heard of an AK being used in a crime. The MSM is nothing but a bunch of Democrat Liars.
Never ever vote for a Democrat##

Jan 20, 2013 1:08am EST  --  Report as abuse
EddieInFL wrote:

No assault rifle was used. Read the transcripts and get your facts right.

Jan 20, 2013 6:08am EST  --  Report as abuse

“The U.S. debate over gun control flared in mid-December when a man armed with an assault rifle killed 20 first-graders and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut – the deadliest of a string of U.S. shooting sprees last year.”

There are two lies contained here in just one sentence: 1st: the gun in question was a semi-automatic AR-15. ‘Assault Rifles’ are FULLY AUTOMATIC – this is lie number 1.

Lie number 2: The AR-15 rifle (note I do not intentionally mislead and obfuscate, as the controlled media does, by referring to it as an ASSAULT RIFLE) was left in the car – not taken into the school, according to one of America’s man ultra-left wing news sources: MSNBC.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

Notice how this and every other article on the topic attempts to shape your opinion rather than inform:

In referring to the rally, Sandy Hook Elementary is immediately invoked to create fear, panic, and sorrow. The propagandist then goes on to describe how Obama and others are taking the necessary steps to BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS! (Again, no assault weapon was used, and the proposed legislation would ban virtually every kind of gun, and severely limit ownership and magazine size in the bargain.)

Note also this passage, “The reaction has been FIERCE gun owners…” Again associating guns with aggressive and violent imagery. The gun owners are then trying to send a strong message to lawmakers, but again, the tragedy must be invoked to undermine the message, “…on the day of the Connecticut MASSACRE…”

The propaganda piece then ends with, “People who have lost loved ones to gun violence will display their photographs, organizers said.”
Meaning that the first and last images are of death and dying due to firearms – an event which is extremely rare, and trending ever downward despite growing gun ownership.

The media of course, true to the lessons they’ve learned from Goebbels, and as committed to their cult of personality leader (Obama) as any good Nazi was to Hitler, label as ‘conspiracy theorists’ anyone who questions the conspiracy which flows from the UN small arms treaty, through fast and furious, and to two crazed gunmen – both of whom were on psychotropic drugs.

The media, as despicable as anything which existed under the greatest tyrants the world has ever known, would also like you to believe that their was nothing suspicious at all about this shooting. Perhaps that is why they tend to leave out the part about a nearby school running a ‘gun-drill’ at the same time the Sandy Hook shooting took place.

The Southeast-Brewster Patch reported on December 18, 2012:

“By grim coincidence, even as the terrible events were unfolding in Newtown on Friday morning, the Putnam County Emergency Response Team (“ERT”) happened to be assembled for regular training in Carmel, and team members were at that very moment engaged in a mock scenario of an active-shooter in a school.”

Jan 20, 2013 7:28am EST  --  Report as abuse
makisov wrote:

Keep your hands off our guns, and we’ll get along just fine over the next 4 years. Otherwise, rallies like this will continue, PEACEFULLY, unlike “occupy”.

Follow me on twitter @TheMissesHelp

Jan 20, 2013 9:14am EST  --  Report as abuse
dukecola wrote:

More kids die in pools than from assault rifles. More people are killed with hammers than with assault rifles. More are killed by drunk drivers and texting than by assault rifles. This is NOT about saving lives or “the children”, it’s nothing more than a power grab.

Jan 20, 2013 9:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
DennisDW wrote:

RsatlyDog “It didn’t work in the US Revolution and would not now”. Odd that no one else noticed all these years that we are still subjects of the crown.

Jan 20, 2013 9:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
Max17 wrote:

“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans …” ~ Bill Clinton

The Left has some interesting company in their goal to disarm ‘ordinary Americans’:

“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead.” ~ Adolf Hilter

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1928, Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Christians, gypsies, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control under one of the bloodiest despots in modern history, Joseph Stalin. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1935, China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents were unable to defend themselves and were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1956, Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million “educated” people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1964, Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1970, Uganda, under brutal dictator Idi Amin, established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Jan 20, 2013 9:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
catch22iam wrote:

Remember. We have the luxury of knowing what Hitler’s plan was. When he first came to power, he told a rosy picture of how nice things would be. Austria voted at over 99% to join back with Germany after listening to Hitler’s promises on how good things could be.

Our government is but an infant compared to governments in history. Why do people believe it cannot be taken over? The only way to assure it is the country of, for and by the people is the one thing our forefathers gave us. The right to bear arms.

Jan 20, 2013 10:22am EST  --  Report as abuse

Does anyone remember the genocide in Rwanda? The Tutsi population was largely armed, and many had served in the military. Following the implementation of ‘democracy’ (watch that word, and watch out for it, because it can only exist with an informed public, and in general, the public is grossly misinformed on most issues) Hutus, believing that the privileged Tutsis were responsible for all of their ills, brutally carved them up with machetes.

And – the exact same scenario played out in Zimbabwe with the white farmers – who were murdered by the majority black population – some of them impaled on broom handles. (the media ignored this massacre by and large because: 1. whites were getting killed by blacks (seen by these indoctrinated fools as reparations) and 2. guns were not used, rather it was knives, fists, clubs, rocks, etc. that did the killing.

And look at Britain – they disarmed and now the population is overrun with hoodlums with violent crimes from 3 to 4 times those of the US and the highest in Europe!! And they have cameras watching their every move besides!

Switzerland, with more gun freedom than the US, enjoys fantastically low rates of crime.

In even more irony, China, which regularly shoots, imprisons, beats, and even eviscerates its own citizens, was the scene for a vicious mass STABBING!!

Then, for more leftist hypocrisy, we might look towards cities like Chicago, Detroit, and New York, where Nazis rule (sorry New York, but stop and frisk!!?? Get yourselves some stars of David people) and gun laws are off the charts restrictive – murder rate through the roof.

With recent subway murders and stabbings, I am reminded of one thing, well, maybe of a couple of things. One: liberal progressive societies lack moral direction and quickly devolve, and two: guns don’t kill people, people kill people, and moreso with bats, batons, hammers and other blunt objects than they do with guns.

So with gun crime trending ever lower, and with long time American enemy and pretend friend China, calling for gun control in the US, and with the United Nations calling for gun control world-wide, perhaps we need to look beyond the hookey, holly-wood scripted, great leader surrounded by the flag and children excuses, and start considering some of the other possibilities.

This is an attack on freedom.
If the target were really crime, it would be sited better.

Jan 20, 2013 10:29am EST  --  Report as abuse

Does anyone remember the genocide in Rwanda? The Tutsi population was largely armed, and many had served in the military. Following the implementation of ‘democracy’ (watch that word, and watch out for it, because it can only exist with an informed public, and in general, the public is grossly misinformed on most issues) Hutus, believing that the privileged Tutsis were responsible for all of their ills, brutally carved them up with machetes.

And – the exact same scenario played out in Zimbabwe with the white farmers – who were murdered by the majority black population – some of them impaled on broom handles. (the media ignored this massacre by and large because: 1. whites were getting killed by blacks (seen by these indoctrinated fools as reparations) and 2. guns were not used, rather it was knives, fists, clubs, rocks, etc. that did the killing.

And look at Britain – they disarmed and now the population is overrun with hoodlums with violent crimes from 3 to 4 times those of the US and the highest in Europe!! And they have cameras watching their every move besides!

Switzerland, with more gun freedom than the US, enjoys fantastically low rates of crime.

In even more irony, China, which regularly shoots, imprisons, beats, and even eviscerates its own citizens, was the scene for a vicious mass STABBING!!

Then, for more leftist hypocrisy, we might look towards cities like Chicago, Detroit, and New York, where Nazis rule (sorry New York, but stop and frisk!!?? Get yourselves some stars of David people) and gun laws are off the charts restrictive – murder rate through the roof.

With recent subway murders and stabbings, I am reminded of one thing, well, maybe of a couple of things. One: liberal progressive societies lack moral direction and quickly devolve, and two: guns don’t kill people, people kill people, and moreso with bats, batons, hammers and other blunt objects than they do with guns.

So with gun crime trending ever lower, and with long time American enemy and pretend friend China, calling for gun control in the US, and with the United Nations calling for gun control world-wide, perhaps we need to look beyond the hookey, holly-wood scripted, great leader surrounded by the flag and children excuses, and start considering some of the other possibilities.

This is an attack on freedom.
If the target were really crime, it would be sighted better.

Jan 20, 2013 10:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
Azza9 wrote:

To focus on just gun control is a myopic practice akin to putting a band-aid on a severed leg and thinking it’s all going to be better…

You guys really need to do some soul searching. The fact that many US citizens fear that their home will very likely be invaded should scare you all. Whether this fear is just a fabrication of pro gun lobbyists or a legitimate justified concern it should worry every US citizen, pro gun control or otherwise.

In short; Why do you need guns? That was not a left leaning rhetorical question either, It’s a legitimate query.

Why do some people think it’s necessary to have 1000 round per minute death machines?

I don’t live in the US so I might not know the truth regarding US’s status quo. You might very well need an “assault rifle” to protect your home an family. Things might actually be that bad over there.

There is a sickness you need weed out of your society and it’s not leftist gun grabbers or righty “gun nuts”.

Psychos are killing kids, why?

Reasonable question to ask really, if more people around the world legitimately asked the question ‘Why?’ More often we might live in a better world. But that’s a pipe dream I guess.

Jan 21, 2013 1:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
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