Chicago marchers urge Obama to come home to address gun violence

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Jason__C wrote:

And the Police State begins.

Feb 02, 2013 10:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AZreb wrote:

Heck – Obama doesn’t even go to his “home town” for vacations – why would he want to go there now?

Feb 03, 2013 9:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
victor672 wrote:

Obama is a hypocrite. He just uses Chicago. He doesn’t care about it. All of those gang-bangers’ guns were stolen from stores and legal owners, the very ones Obama wants to confiscate guns from.

Feb 03, 2013 10:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
Iceberge wrote:

This city has the strictest gun control policies in the nation and they still have gun crime? Imagine that.

Feb 03, 2013 10:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
skatz51 wrote:

Are we seriously getting calls for a National Police Force? Really? I don’t even think it could pass Constitutional muster. But you know, just one little faked emergency like in Germany and their goes the whole shotting match.

Feb 03, 2013 11:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
pavnvet wrote:

Let the law abiding citizens be able to purchase and conceal carry. Time and time again this has shown it will reduce gun violence by the criminal element. My other suggestion is just put a big fence up around the city and let them all kill themselves off (with proper notice to law abiding citizens to relocate).

Feb 03, 2013 11:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
volunteerjim wrote:

Hell must have frozen over because I agree with Jessie Jackson. The Justice Department needs to flood Chicago with federal officers to help out the local police force and get the gang members and other thugs off the streets and into jails.
Passing more useless gun laws will do nothing to stem this rising wave of senseless violence and killing. All the murders and killings in Chicago are already against the law.

Feb 03, 2013 11:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
Juan_One wrote:

The number one problem with Chi Town begins with the letter D. This D stands for Democrat. Their leaders have been continuously in charge of the cities and states that are in worst shape in the US.
Expect the professional race baiters Ole Jesse and Big Al to pump up the volume in Chi Town. Then they will be joined by Barry and company including Rahm and Michelle.
Funny how Chi Town has had so many young black on black homicides over the years but, not until several white kids get killed in Connecticut do all these elected official with D in front of their names start to pay attention so that they can further advance their big gov nanny state agenda.

Feb 03, 2013 11:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
Obumma wrote:

What a hypocrite. In one breath, Jackson wants law-abiding citizens disarmed, and the he complains about all the criminal gun violence in his next breath.

Jackson and other brainwashed liberals like him can’t comprehend that the reason Chicago has such a gun violence rate is because they have the strictest gun-control laws in the country – leaving only criminals holding the guns.

When will these liberals ever learn?

Feb 03, 2013 11:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
VeryOldB wrote:

I think it is “racist” for Jesse Jackson to suggest that Obama pay attention to the murder rate in his adopted “gun-free” hometown. Doesn’t Jesse know that Dear Leader is preoccupied with the Super Bowl?

Feb 03, 2013 11:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
JiminGa wrote:

so Jackson prefers martial law to re-establishing normal morals. Typical progressive attempt at controlling the population that happened in so many other Marxist regimes.

Feb 03, 2013 11:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
mmilesll wrote:

I see the poverty pimp is at it again. Since this city is run by the left wing wackos, let them solve the problem. Maybe that loon you have for a mayor can stay home long enough and solve the problem without running all over the place trying to tell others how to solve problems they don’t have. How many mayors of Chicago have gone to prison while they were still mayor? If none, this would be a great time to start

Feb 03, 2013 11:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
mmilesll wrote:

I see the poverty pimp is at it again. Since this city is run by the left wing wackos, let them solve the problem. Maybe that loon you have for a mayor can stay home long enough and solve the problem without running all over the place trying to tell others how to solve problems they don’t have. How many mayors of Chicago have gone to prison while they were still mayor? If none, this would be a great time to start

Feb 03, 2013 11:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
Ms.Morales wrote:

Matthew McGill? Hello, hello….Chicago is more dangerous than Kabul and there is no other city in our Nation with that distinction.

Feb 03, 2013 11:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
Ms.Morales wrote:

Matthew McGill? Hello, hello….Chicago is more dangerous than Kabul and there is no other city in our Nation with that distinction.

Feb 03, 2013 11:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
supersniffy11 wrote:

So, the false prophet wants help from the false president to install a false civilization…….sigh….

Feb 03, 2013 11:39am EST  --  Report as abuse

“‘My greatest fear about the gun violence in Chicago is that we’re adjusting to it,’ he said.”

You and others of your ilk (Sharpton, Farrakhan, Waters, Obama) have adjusted to it long ago with your “Black-on-black violence is none of your business, whitey” attitude.

Maybe if you hadn’t spent nearly 50 years turning Dr. King’s dream into a nightmare, you would have attacked the problem from within instead of encouraging and inflaming the situation to the point that you demand others fix it.

Feb 03, 2013 11:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
torture wrote:

Teacher says ” Every time your hear a gunshot, another Chicago taxpayer gets his EBT money back”. All these shootings seem to be reducing the future prison population.

Feb 03, 2013 11:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
josetoyou wrote:

Exactly what is this clown a “reverend” of????

Feb 03, 2013 11:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
Randy549 wrote:

Chicago has made itself into one large gun-free zone. And like all gun-free zones, it is a killing field.

Feb 03, 2013 11:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
kingdad wrote:

Martial Law in a US City, just the 1st step in Barry’s plan to become Dictator for Life!

Why doesn’t Rev/ Jackson give one of those Rousing Speeches he is famous for and Convert all those Gangstas and Thugs in Chytcago. Heck he may even get those Corrupt Cops and Politicians there to Repent!
ROFLMAO at just the thought of Jesse preaching anything rousing that wasn’t racist!

Feb 03, 2013 12:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
matt10011 wrote:

remind me who has been running chicago since forever.

Feb 03, 2013 12:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kingdad wrote:

Martial Law in a US City, just the 1st step in Barry’s plan to become Dictator for Life!

Why doesn’t Rev/ Jackson give one of those Rousing Speeches he is famous for and Convert all those Gangstas and Thugs in Chytcago. Heck he may even get those Corrupt Cops and Politicians there to Repent!
ROFLMAO at just the thought of Jesse preaching anything rousing that wasn’t racist!

Feb 03, 2013 12:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Billion003 wrote:

Another Democratic stronghold sinks deeper into the morass, with “pop” solutions, such as suggested in this article, as usual, missing the true problem entirely.

Can Chicagoans be so blind?

Feb 03, 2013 12:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAFRet wrote:

What Mr. Jackson neglects to mention is that about half of all violent crimes nationwide are committed by gangs. In cesspools like Chicago, that rate is closer to 80-90%. According to the Chicago Police Department, more than 70% of murders in Chicago are committed by blacks, 24% by hispanics and 3.5% by whites. If Mr. Jackson was at all honest, he would demand that the city crack down hard on black and hispanic gangs, almost none of whose members are legal gun owners in the state of Illinois. But instead he demands that the federal government DO something about a Chicago gang problem and put more restrictions on law-abiding, state registered gun owners. And all this takes place in a city that, for all practical purposes, bans guns. It’s beyond ridiculous.

Feb 03, 2013 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
krusatyr wrote:

Fed programs killed families, killed individual responsibility, killed religion, substituted Uncle Sugar as god and protector, promoted entitlement-victim mentality. Hence fed programs are behind urban slaughter.

Feb 03, 2013 12:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
KProvance wrote:

This is a time for you to go stand with your uneducated, violent thug brothas, Jesse. Or are you afraid of getting shot, so you go running to the gub’ment and ask them to do it for you? Coward. Just get rid of all the ni99as and watch the problem disappear.

Feb 03, 2013 12:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
whatisgoingon wrote:

It doesn’t look like gun control is working in Obama’s wonderland.

Feb 03, 2013 12:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Godsongs wrote:

Why not just lift gun control and let the people defend themselves. Or they could deputize people. But I know that the government won’t relinquish it’s power to any civilians. Period.

Feb 03, 2013 12:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Federal patrols is a violation of the constitution. State National Guard, State Troopers or Chi-town PD are the options. They just need a real Mayor and a real policing strategy. Rudy Guliani is for hire, Rahm give him a call.

Feb 03, 2013 12:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mewp1 wrote:

I don’t think Jackson is a real reverend. What divinity school did he attend, what church does he head? He is and always has been a rebel rouser. He is coming a little to late . Start putting the poor children with guns and in mobs in jail.

Feb 03, 2013 12:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
reuterssucks1 wrote:

Jesse Jackson is the perfect person for the job of reducing gun violence ini Chicago. But he won’t. The reason he is perfect and the reason her won’t are botht he same. Look at who is doing the shooting.
He absolutely refuces to take any effective action where his “peeps” are concerned . It is their entire culture of false pride, frugs, single grandmother homes, absent fathers, rejection of education as being “tto white”, reliance on the taxpayers for handouts…you know the drill …that has reuslted in out of control violence. That is what has to be tackled.
Interseting that Chicago has tTHE toughest gun laws in the country. And yet, they do not work. Anyone with a brain can see that just adding more laws (in Chicago or anywhere else) is a waste of time.
But, that is how libtards get to feel good about themselves because they care and because “they are doing something”!!!!~
Anyone who thinks PapaDoc Barra ck gives a sh*t about the youth of Chicago is a nive fool. He will gladly walk over their bodies to get at the Second Amendment.

Feb 03, 2013 12:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Kathleen3 wrote:

I’m assuming Jesse Jackson approves of Obama effecting the same on the people of the United States as he has on those in Chicago.

When those we most entrust to uphold and enforce the law are the very same most guilty of violating laws we can expect nothing less than the anarchy that exists in Chicago and Los Angeles, which is rapidly spreading to cities such as Philadelphia, the states of Maryland and Georgia, and most large cities across the country.

Feb 03, 2013 12:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Godsongs wrote:

The difference between Liberals and Conservatives is not something that is well understood. God gives wisdom and understanding to those that accept Him as the final word. We can not separate God from any truth. People who reject God are bound by their beliefs and will forever repeat their mistakes. Everything was created for and by God including knowledge, prosperity and life itself. If we reject Him we reject all of those things because they all belong to Him and He will NOT share them with those that aren’t His. We can share it but God won’t. After He judges even that which they still have will be taken away including life itself.

Feb 03, 2013 12:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jimmr wrote:

Indeed Jason_C – And now the Police State Begins – invited by those seeking security by giving up their freedom – useful idiots!

Feb 03, 2013 12:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Jmach wrote:

So Jackson just found out about the murder rate in Chicago?

Feb 03, 2013 12:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Stevebee3 wrote:

In NYC the police do stop-and-frisk of mostly black and Latinos. And they scream about that. So what would they do in Chicago?
Gonna cordon off the projects and go door-to-door searching apartments?
Ain’t gonna work without racial profiling, you know.

Feb 03, 2013 12:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PalmerBill wrote:

In the end, a tyrant’s primary job is not to crush the masses and rule out of malevolence, but to obtain the voluntary consent of the citizenry, usually through trickery and deceit. Without the permission of the people, subconscious or otherwise, no tyranny can survive.

Feb 03, 2013 12:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Ofailure wrote:

Just look what creatures like obama and his ilk have turned Chicago into while the mindless worship him. And now he is trying to do the same to the rest of America!

Feb 03, 2013 12:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse

The gangbangers all have illegal guns or will get them. It’s about time for the authorities in Chicago to allow the lawful citizens to carry guns for self-protection, because preventing those citizens from being shot by criminals is not the job of the police. And it would help if the police got rid of the gangs.

Feb 03, 2013 1:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
lonier1 wrote:

I’m sure Rev Jessie Jackson & Rev Al Sharpton are making arraignments to go into Chicago to stop all this violence.

Feb 03, 2013 1:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Ofailure wrote:

How about if the city is cordoned off and fumigated with the “residents” not being allowed to leave?

Feb 03, 2013 1:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Well, now we know how well gun control works. It doesn’t.

Feb 03, 2013 1:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JMcCarthey wrote:

And of course, since guns don’t keep people safe, these Homeland Security Officers won’t be carrying any. Instead on their patrols will only carry flowers in their hair, candy in their pockets, and rainbows in their thoughts.

And any criminals they catch will be shipped to the empty prison at Guantanamo Bay that our President closed done back in 2008.

Feb 03, 2013 1:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
duncer wrote:

They do not care about all those murders, this is just another “never let a crisis go to waste” move. They want to establish a precedent for DHS to patrol American cities. Their real targets will be political opponents, not thugs. Of course all the attention that the right has focused on their liberal utopia has embarrassed them, this has been going on for years, but Chicago is just one urban area of many plagued by this “black” thing.

Feb 03, 2013 1:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Max17 wrote:

Liberals are supposed to be grownups. It least, they insist on being treated as such. Chitcago has had liberal rule at the local level for close to a century, right? And liberals have created such a cesspool of cultural decay that they now have to run to mommy federal government to fix their boo boo? No, I don’t think so. Illinois doesn’t have a national guard? Of course they do. So they need to grow up, use what is at their disposal, and fix their own mess. Those liberals that voted for the mess for a century may keep dying as a result, but what difference at this point does it make?

Feb 03, 2013 1:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
aberdeenvet wrote:

Black activists are frauds. They have, for many decades, been the number 1 cause of criminality in the Black communities of this nation. All they want is the monetary and power support of Black citizens. Those citizen’s viability and success are of no real matters to the activist. Family solidarity,personal morality and personal responsibility are not the watchwords of activists. The claims of White racism are promulgated by them, while successful Blacks who do not subscribe to the ideologies of the Democrat party are always roundly excoriated by them.

Feb 03, 2013 1:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

Is it just me or are Democrat strong holds some of the most dangerous places to live on earth? The larger the population on government assistance, the more violence we see. Ah yes, we need more of this type of government.

Feb 03, 2013 1:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Yes Obama please come home and fix Chicago’s 50% high school drop out rate, fix that 45% unemployment rate if your black and under 26 yrs old, fix those fatherless households, fix that “generational” welfare upbringing, fix that “glorified thug culture” mindset they grew up in , hell while you’re at it fix the whole “Chicago Way ” thing! If you’re too busy, maybe send Joe Biden?

Feb 03, 2013 2:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Another_Vet wrote:

But I thought that Chicago was a “GUN FREE ZONE”. How dare they keep shooting each other.

Feb 03, 2013 2:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
segesta wrote:

Or maybe Jesse Jackson should call on Chicagoans to finish high school, don’t get pregnant before marriage, and if you’re a man, stay with the mother of your child. Those are all factors to prevent poverty, and therefore to prevent crime.

I know, I know. Unicorn rainbows and all that.

Feb 03, 2013 2:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SBolivar wrote:

What Jackson should be doing is working to keep guns out of the hands of Chicago blacks instead of his normal race baiting.

Feb 03, 2013 2:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Jackson calls for the President to send in Home Land Security forces to address Chicago’s problem with gangs and guns. We should remember that Chicago has its own Police Department. The State of Illinois has its own State Police and the Illinois National Guard that the Governor can activate if the Ballerina Mayor requests it. The last thing we need on the streets of our cities anywhere in America is a federally controlled uniformed extramilitary civilian force armed with fully automatic rifles and semi-auto pistols with 1.2 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition answering to no one but people in the executive branch. Allowing the Federal Government’s executive branch its own private army to control our streets will not end well for anyone.

Feb 03, 2013 2:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

Chicago isn’t Obama’s home. Hawaii is.

Feb 03, 2013 2:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Scharwenka wrote:

Chicago doesn’t have a black people problem, they have a single mother problem. The statistics I’ve seen indicate that the disparity in crime between races disappears after factoring in criminals from fatherless homes.

“BubbRubb728: Chicago doesn’t have a gun problem, they have a black people problem.”

Feb 03, 2013 2:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mitchie124 wrote:

Who cares what this idiot thinks?

Feb 03, 2013 2:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Curmdugeon10 wrote:

“Anita Crittenden, who lost a nephew to gun violence last year, said Obama, by coming to Chicago, would “get the leaders to think and step up and make some changes.”

Other than deporting the underclass in Chicago to a modern day Devil’s Island, exactly what changes would these leaders be expected to make?

Feb 03, 2013 3:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
hveyounoshame wrote:

Solution: Pass an ordinance in Chicago such that in the event the murders by gunfire is not cut in half within 12 months, no pensions will be paid out for any and all government workers both retired and active. I am sure they will not have to wait 12 months to see the rate approach zero.

Feb 03, 2013 3:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
johnwayland wrote:

No chance to get more votes since almost 100% voted for Oblamer, so they’ll never see him show his face in Chi-town. The man does nothing that isn’t political !!!! He could care less if thousands died as long as he carried the State.

Feb 03, 2013 3:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CmdrBuzz wrote:

But, but, Obumbler said that Chicago is an example of what makes America great.

Feb 03, 2013 3:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dencal26 wrote:

Last GOP Mayor of Chicago 1933 Detroit 1957 New Orleans 1893. Either these people are blind or stupid.

Feb 03, 2013 3:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WARRIOR07 wrote:

Sort of Hitleresque. Chicago instead of Munich. Next we shall see his FEMA troops in action.

Feb 03, 2013 3:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
smokeybandit wrote:

And not one single new gun law proposed will change any of this. Actually it’ll just make things worse.

Feb 03, 2013 3:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
grizzmann wrote:

“The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation. ”
You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.

2 Socialist quotes?

Feb 03, 2013 3:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SimpleFacts wrote:

How about you call on all of the brothers and sisters there to take a little responsibility and teach their kids to not be gang banging murderers? Except, of course over 70% don’t have a father to tell them what responsibility means. And the liberals from Johnson forward have given them no reason to go to school or find a job, ’cause all the “rich folks” are gonna support them anyway. Hey, I know! Why don’t we make guns illegal in Chicago and then the criminals would be breaking … laws…oh, never mind.

Feb 03, 2013 3:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
nikotipper wrote:

When the lawless outgun the law abiding citizens, you get…well, Chicago. One only needs to look at gun ownership versus gun violence statistics in the US to understand the gun murder rate in Chicago.

Feb 03, 2013 3:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Mandy123 wrote:

Finally, some action from the people living in Chicago but disappointing that only 150 turn out for the march. Only involvment by the community will stop this. There aren’t enough police to handle this day in and day out. The citizens must turn in the criminals and make sure there children aren’t out in the night hours and hanging with criminals when they should be home and perhaps studying.

Feb 03, 2013 4:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
michaelp wrote:

Obama is only interested in taking guns from good citizens only. If a cop frisks a black person from the hood. It is a racist thing ! And that’s where the illegal guns are. By the way ! why don’t Jackson do it himself, with his partner Sharpton. The race war starters.

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BallzOut wrote:

Stop & frisk works in NYC.

Just saying

Feb 03, 2013 4:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
abagoz wrote:

Obama just make a gun free zone! Oh it is! and it don’t work. OK then allow citizens to pack heat! bet that will slow things down!

Feb 03, 2013 4:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@CommieAcelrod

It isn’t a race related issue. Any white families that grow up in the Federal projects will exhibit the same issues. It is a socioeconomic issue, not a race issue. And the sad thing is the feel good bleeding hearts are the ones who have created this situation out of the goodness of their hearts. I had a friend that I stayed with in federal housing for a few months while I was out of work. She could not get a full time job. If she did, the house, the food stamps, the free electric/heat, would have been changed to take up her whole pay check. So she was better off not working. It is the trap that people on federal assistance finds themselves in. You can never earn enough money to get up and get out of the situation, it is set up to keep you perpetually on government assistance.

Feb 03, 2013 4:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dwstick1 wrote:

The virtual ban on private gun ownership in Chicago isn’t reducing crime? The mayor’s call for the gangbangers to “leave the kids alone” isn’t working. The ban on Chick-Fil-A didn’t do it? The ban on foie gras didn’t do it?
Those are all such successful measures in reducing crime anywhere you go. If none of them didn’t work, I don’t know what will.
Sarcasm.

Feb 03, 2013 4:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Uh—why? So Jessie and his poverty pimp posse could then accuse everyone of being racists and run his extortion racket?

Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the nation—I thought that would fix everything?
These people are doing what they do, why is anyone surprised? Rape, drugs, murders—-as long as their just killing each other, who cares?

Look at Africa the same garbage happens there, and has always happened there, just a fact. Look at any area where knee grows gather in large numbers—-there is chaos.
Instead of calling me names, try citing an example of a place where the majority is black, and there is peace and prosperity. I’ll save you some time, there is none.

Jessie and the race baiting poverty pimps are a parasitic group attached to an sick animal only being kept alive by the generosity of their white hosts, it’s high time BLACKS address the issues in their OWN communities and stop blaming whites for their 80% illegitimacy rates—-which is the REAL problem.

Feb 03, 2013 4:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Uh—why? So Jessie and his poverty pimp posse could then accuse everyone of being racists and run his extortion racket?

Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the nation—I thought that would fix everything?
These people are doing what they do, why is anyone surprised? Rape, drugs, murders—-as long as their just killing each other, who cares?

Look at Africa the same garbage happens there, and has always happened there, just a fact. Look at any area where knee grows gather in large numbers—-there is chaos.
Instead of calling me names, try citing an example of a place where the majority is black, and there is peace and prosperity. I’ll save you some time, there is none.

Jessie and the race baiting poverty pimps are a parasitic group attached to an sick animal only being kept alive by the generosity of their white hosts, it’s high time BLACKS address the issues in their OWN communities and stop blaming whites for their 80% illegitimacy rates—-which is the REAL problem.

Feb 03, 2013 4:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse

75 comments? Wow, not much get through the censors these days. Orwell was right.

Feb 03, 2013 4:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
frek149kie wrote:

The reverend Jackson is a Laff and a Haff. I cant think of any armed patrol group in South Chicago including armed neighborhood watch volunteers who would not suffer continued casualties at the hands of gang members over time. You’ll never see it take place, because the leftist city administration would have to shake down building loads of contituents every time a shot was fired at them. It’s a nightmare that won’t be solved by anyone until the gun-packers themselves decide killing isn’t fun any more.

Feb 03, 2013 4:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
radiomankc wrote:

Jesus, Jackson. You don’t EVER advocate for the federal government to patrol America’s streets. Instead go teach young black children not to kill each other.

Feb 03, 2013 4:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Sycoman wrote:

once again the fear-mongers are at work cooking up more propaganda to sell gun control with. get real already!

Feb 03, 2013 4:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Galut11 wrote:

Much can be learned on why Gun control does not work

Much can be learned about the loss of our moral foundations

BUT that much to be learned mean we must set aside our understanding of progressive values and look at our own truly selfish nature.

When we throw out the Book of Books from our schools and institutions …the moral foundations are set adrift ..blown about at the will of every wind of social change .

Feb 03, 2013 4:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Galut11 wrote:

Much can be learned on why Gun control does not work

Much can be learned about the loss of our moral foundations

BUT that much to be learned mean we must set aside our understanding of progressive values and look at our own truly selfish nature.

When we throw out the Book of Books from our schools and institutions …the moral foundations are set adrift ..blown about at the will of every wind of social change .

Feb 03, 2013 4:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse

By all means let’s fire the Governor, Mayor, abolish the State government and establish a federal police state in Illinois.

Then again let’s not.

Feb 03, 2013 4:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
foggytoo wrote:

Great idea as long as Chicago picks up the tab.

Feb 03, 2013 4:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Cold_Heart wrote:

So, where are the community organizers?? Where’s the “leadership” in the black community??? Nowhere to be found… it’s a contradiction.

Feb 03, 2013 5:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jschmidt2 wrote:

We wouldn’t want to put any more guns on the streets of Chicago. Instead Jackson and Obama should have prayer service in the worst section of Chicago and if they really believe, they can leave their bodyguards at home. After all the press will protect them.

Feb 03, 2013 5:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jschmidt2 wrote:

FUnny that Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country.

Feb 03, 2013 5:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
callycat wrote:

ObaMao won’t address gang violence because the gangs are comprised of blacks… blacks are a PROTECTED CLASS IN Obamaville. This is the guy who supplied weapons to the Mexican drug cartell. he has no problem with any class of people having access to guns except for white Americans, who comprise the majority of LEGAL gun owners. The facts speak for themselves.

Feb 03, 2013 5:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jubal wrote:

Mr. Obama will not be visiting Chicago. The only way to reduce the carnage is to arm all the law-biding citizens and allow them to shoot back. That goes against the party mantra.

Feb 03, 2013 5:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jubal wrote:

Mr. Obama will not be visiting Chicago. The only way to reduce the carnage is to arm all the law-biding citizens and allow them to shoot back. That goes against the party mantra.

Feb 03, 2013 5:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
paprtowl wrote:

illegal action prompted by jesse jackson .do not need federal action . in spite of emanuel .

Feb 03, 2013 5:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BobStreb wrote:

The last thing America heard from Jackson’s Obama crowd is that strict gun control solves everything. In their home turf, Chicagoland, when the stew is not quite right, just add a pinch of martial law, and have a taste. The Obama train wreck continues.

Feb 03, 2013 5:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fyreman235 wrote:

There is nothing a change in gun laws can do for Chicago. This is gang warfare and everybody involved already has a gun. There are only two choices…martial law with a curfew at sundown with a mandatory 10-year sentence for anybody found with an illegal gun, or do nothing, let honest people leave, and let the rest shoot each other to pieces until nobody is left.

Feb 03, 2013 5:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Texasbil wrote:

When Chicago quits being stupid and allows CHL permits the crap in their streets will be over. All of the states that have CHL permits the crime rate is down drastically. LOOK IT UP!

Feb 03, 2013 5:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
minfxbg wrote:

Homeland security patrolling the streets? Those assclowns cannot secure the border , what makes anyone think they safeguard a city is filled with thugs and run by thugs?

Feb 03, 2013 5:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Blacks are 12% of the population, but commit 50% of the murders.

Treat black crime separately, and the US crime rate is right in the middle of European countries.

Feb 03, 2013 6:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
february2 wrote:

Wouldn’t this statement be considered a slap ion the face of the mayor and oll city officials in Chicago and lets not leave out the police dept.

Feb 03, 2013 6:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
goodgold wrote:

Who wrote this article? Jackson was a presidential candidate? Bwa…bwa…bwa…ha. Seriously, get the writer some help in reality.

Feb 03, 2013 6:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
saucy_fellow wrote:

This is just what they want Troops in the streets. What do you expect from this gangster regime?

Feb 03, 2013 6:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
saucy_fellow wrote:

This is just what they want Troops in the streets. What do you expect from this gangster regime?

Feb 03, 2013 6:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
muckypup75 wrote:

it’s a GD zoo over there. just put bars around the city already

Feb 03, 2013 6:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
zenzenzen wrote:

Liberal culture in Chicago is reaping the oats they sowed.

Feb 03, 2013 6:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sclark wrote:

Chicago just needs the same open and concealed carry gun laws that a free state like Arizona has. Make guns readily available to all law abiding citizens (with no permit required) and the sky high murder problem will be greatly reduced.

Feb 03, 2013 7:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
brodave wrote:

Well phony Rev, just ban guns in Chicago… Wait?

Liberals insatiable drive to disarm America’s Citizens is actually just Liberals insatiable drive to control “other” Citizens

It has absolutely nothing to do with crime prevention. Besides, the very best crime prevention is armed law-abiding Citizens.

Fellow Citizens, always remember that the 2nd Amendment was and is intended to allow American Citizens to protect themselves against the very type of Totalitarian Government that the Liberals desire. Best be armed and ready.

Feb 03, 2013 7:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mike393 wrote:

Concealed carry won’t make a difference in Chicago. The people being shot and the people doing the shooting cannot legally own or pass a concealed carry background check. They are too young, too criminal or too poor. This would be assuming Chicago would lighten their restrictions to allow ownership and carry. The shootings are primarily inner city black gangs and those caught int he crossfire. There may be a couple robberies foiled by concealed carry but the 526 deaths last year were mostly gang violence among criminals or those who wouldn’t be concealed carry participants.

Feb 03, 2013 7:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
OrlandoMan wrote:

As Rahm Emmanuel says, Chick-Fil-A doesn’t reflect “Chicago Values”.

I guess he was right.

Feb 03, 2013 8:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xsnake wrote:

The reverend and his leftist politics can be thanked for the dismal state of the nation…..with an equal amount of credit to a disgraceful news media.

Feb 03, 2013 8:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ballen wrote:

Wait, Chicago has very strict gun laws, so this entire story cannot possibly be true. Gun laws always cause the criminals to immediately turn in weapons.

Feb 03, 2013 10:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AZWarrior wrote:

Put a fence around it and walk away.

Feb 03, 2013 10:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
crimestopper wrote:

The problem with sending in police to help is that next they will sue someone because there will one race being checked for guns. In our city the community leaders want police in the hood but when they start stopping people and checking them for guns they are profiling and then the big law suit.
You can not have it both ways, very surprised Rev. Jackson is asking police to help because with so many people with guns you know there is going to problems when the police show up.

Feb 03, 2013 11:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
scubaman44 wrote:

It is not a black problem, rather a social issue.

Feb 03, 2013 11:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dump28usn wrote:

Is this the first opening to allow Obama’s “brown shirts” to move into a US city and start his final take over of the US? Sure sounds like it to me.

Feb 04, 2013 12:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
Levendi wrote:

“He also called for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to help patrol the streets of Chicago.” Yes, now we’re getting warming. Let’s have the army, the government be like the SS and The Russian secret police. But first let’s take everyone’s guns away then we’ll have them we’re we want them. “Progressive”, “Forward”, “Obama”.

Feb 04, 2013 12:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
Airmail56 wrote:

Concealed carry has reduced crime everywhere it is law.

Feb 04, 2013 12:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
VWDriver wrote:

Talk about “useful idiots” Chicago thugs and Jessie can be depended on.

Feb 04, 2013 12:18am EST  --  Report as abuse

Rev. Jackson the Obama’s have their Chicago home For Sale. They have no intention of returning to Chicago. They are moving to Hawaii after they leave the White House.

Feb 04, 2013 12:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
TeaBagYou wrote:

Why are we paying to fix his mess?

Feb 04, 2013 1:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
ttesq wrote:

“………
And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, “Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!”" MLK

He would be so disappointed in his race, AND this pathetic administration. So are the rest of us.

Feb 04, 2013 1:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
ladydee wrote:

Enforce the laws, and lock criminals up for the rest of their lives, instead of giving them probation.WHo cares if the prisons are full…they should be caged and never allowed to walk in civilization again. Clean up the streets toss em behind bars, and throw away the key.GUN Violence committed by the thug , criminal element will cease.

Feb 04, 2013 2:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
SalomonWisdom wrote:

wow

Feb 04, 2013 6:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
1peevedbob wrote:

He Jessie, Why don’t you get out there and patrol, I mean, when shot ring out you can jump under a car just like you did back, well, you know when..!

Feb 04, 2013 6:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
clee14 wrote:

Homeland security Is this Obama’s civilian military he was talking about Is this the military he has been arming with hollow point bullets and assault weapons? Wake up people

Feb 04, 2013 7:39am EST  --  Report as abuse

When misguided Liberal politicians treat human beings like they treat animals in a zoo by feeding them, clothing them, housing them, training them and taking care of their medical needs then why does it surprise us when those human beings revert to animal-like violence? After all, part of the human experience is to take responsibility for one’s actions. When the government takes this responsibility, you no longer know how to behave.

Language, cultural differences and poverty don’t cause this. After all, there are many different minority groups that are poor but who would never think to resort to violence as a means to their end.

This is a result of the “new slavery” — in which certain segments of society are in chains to the bones of welfare that are thrown to them by some politicians who long for power.

If you don’t believe me, then I dare you to walk through the government projects in any major city after 10 PM at night.

Feb 04, 2013 8:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
cactus02 wrote:

Maby we should establish the Military State Police. If we translate that to German you would get Geheim Staat Police Shortened to Gestapo. No I think that would be a bad idea.

Feb 04, 2013 8:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
ra44mr2 wrote:

This guy is a moron, what the heck does he think will happen if HSA patrols the streets? They are just gonna round up all the white people? Cause im sure its all those white rednecks going into the south side of chicago and shooting up the place. Idiot. Then when they start arresting the actual perps he is gonna cry racism because they will be patrolling the problem neighborhoods which just happen to be mostly minorities.

Feb 04, 2013 8:38am EST  --  Report as abuse
frankreed1 wrote:

America’s politicians, for the most part, are absolutely CORRUPT!!! Ever notice how they TAKE 100 words to answer a YES or NO question?!!! They treat OUR money, the tax revenue, the same way. To them, it’s fuKKn PLAY money!!! They don’t care….The American Taxpayer is the GOOSE THAT LAYS GOLDEN EGGS, that THEY get to dine off of, and MAYBE…just MAYBE, they toss the rest of us a bone…or the scraps!
AND…the vast majority have become so psychotic and just keep voting the bastards back in!!! Insanity!!!
We, in a morbid way, get the government that we deserve! Our great ride is over. obama is leading us AWAY from greatness via the THE BIGGEST HOAX in our history!!!!!

Feb 04, 2013 8:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
xsnake wrote:

If Jackson and his leftist friends in chitown had a clue, there wouldn’t be much of a crime at all. They’ve sowed the wind….let them reap the whirlwind. Stop contributing to global whining.

Feb 04, 2013 8:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
frankreed1 wrote:

America’s politicians, for the most part, are absolutely CORRUPT!!! Ever notice how they TAKE 100 words to answer a YES or NO question?!!! They treat OUR money, the tax revenue, the same way. To them, it’s fuKKn PLAY money!!! They don’t care….The American Taxpayer is the GOOSE THAT LAYS GOLDEN EGGS, that THEY get to dine off of, and MAYBE…just MAYBE, they toss the rest of us a bone…or the scraps!
AND…the vast majority have become so psychotic and just keep voting the bastards back in!!! Insanity!!!
We, in a morbid way, get the government that we deserve! Our great ride is over. obama is leading us AWAY from greatness via the THE BIGGEST HOAX in our history!!!!!

Feb 04, 2013 8:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
ghost62 wrote:

TSA would be useless they are not Law Enforcement nor even Licensed Security. Bring them there to do what? Fondel small children?

Feb 04, 2013 9:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
cebva wrote:

There were once a great cities called Chicago and Detroit. They were boom towns and the pride of the mid-west.

Then they became places where the liberals got to try all their wonderful ideas: gun-control, class warfare, public service unions, teacher’s unions, food stamps, welfare, high minimum wages, race baiting, affirmative action and vote-buying entitlements.

Their decline was totally predictable and avoidable. They will not change until they change the way they are governed. Unfortunately that is not going to come at the ballot box because the takers outnumber the makers and the economic pain required to right so many years of wrongs in a lifetime will lead to anarchy. Chicago and Detroit will die slow agonizing deaths as people and business leave.

Liberals will try to prop up their utopia but they are running out of resources and time. How tightly will they try to hold on? OweBama has said he wants a para-military force outside of the traditional armed forces. DHS has bought millions of rounds of hollow point ammunition. Are the brown shirts far behind? The sad end-result of liberal utopian thinking is right before our eyes and all the sheeple care about are their OweBama phones.

Feb 04, 2013 9:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
daveca wrote:

IDEA !! To stop gun related crime, make GUN LAWS. That will prevent crime.

/sarc

1. CLOSE THE MEXICO BORDER TO STOP DRUGS
2. ARM CITIZENS

It worked in Kennesaw GA.
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Feb 04, 2013 9:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
DanaDee wrote:

Although I have immense sympathy for the victims of these tragic events, I have no sympathy for the city as a whole that votes a mayor in who abhors the values of Chik Fil A. And therein lies a good deal of the problem.

Feb 04, 2013 10:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
Chief544 wrote:

Is the beginning of the “National Police Force, as well trained, armed and funded as the military”. The Indonesian proposed such a thing before the 2008 election and he was elected anyway.

Feb 04, 2013 10:03am EST  --  Report as abuse
daveca wrote:

No ones caught the big takeaway, as to why Jackson is tooting this horn.

Rememer a few months ago (last year) Rahm Emanuel had a blurb on crime and how a gun buyback would solve everything?

It didnt, and now he cant show his face as a total FAILURE

second-amendment DOT tripod DOT com

Feb 04, 2013 10:05am EST  --  Report as abuse
kestrel27 wrote:

The most irrelevant Jesse Jackson, another in a long line of Democrat Liberals who helped create the environment found in Chicago and other cities, now wants Obama, who could care less, to come and address the violence. Now that my friends, is a laugh. News flash for the stuck on stupids that are Progressives. You don’t address the deadly violence in Chicago by going after the law abiding citizens. You go after the criminal element. Oh, that’s right, you can’t, because the criminal element is how Democrats get elected to office. So in order to make the people of the city feel like you are doing something, you have nowhere to go, but after the law abiding. Isn’t Liberalism great?

Feb 04, 2013 10:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
jaham wrote:

Come home and address gun violence….where gun violence has already been addressed by futile attempts at “gun control”.

No, I don’t think that’d help make his case very well, LOL; Chicago is an example of the failure of “gun controls”…why would he want to highlight that failure?

He needs to keep using children to pull on America’s heartstrings…even then, it won’t pass Congress.

I sure wish Obama would spend his time addressing America’s debt, jobs and economy, instead.

Feb 04, 2013 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
spqr05 wrote:

This man’s son was in power for over 10 years and he never did anything to help gun violence. Why is his voice yelling this now? The President is not he person to address state matters or other state related matters. We know violence in Chicago is bad, in fact if you look at the demographics is typically black on black. The President isn’t going to touch this with a ten foot pole as he hasn’t spoken out against any violence expect minority violence. Perhaps if the Chicago PD could read past a 3rd grade level and passing the police exam at 60% wasn’t a standard you may not have such bad violence; however, when we use mediocrity as a standard versus trying to do better this is what we get. Plus Chicago had a handgun ban for 10 years. This is a microcosm of what the President is trying to do the rest of the US and it’s been an utter failure.

Feb 04, 2013 11:01am EST  --  Report as abuse
josetoyou wrote:

When blacks move in, the community starts a downward spiral to something like Philly, Detroit, Chicago, LA,…happens every time

Feb 04, 2013 11:30am EST  --  Report as abuse
accbar wrote:

What god does this man worship? For he is a champion of no god that I am familiar with. For he preaches of a god that would have his children steal from each other and to pray to a covetous spirit. Yet he self professes to be “reverend”.
Now, he would open a gate not for our lord and saviour Jesus the Christ to his Holy Spirit, but to a federal army that would march through our streets.
Brothers and sisters, we are being educated to hate one another. Our schools are nihilistic playgrounds for those confident that they are brilliant, but see their fruits. They are imbeciles, or worse, they know they are spreading ignorance and hate.
Those who have eyes, let them see. Then act in confidence in the Spirit of Christ and with the wonderful knowledge that God has given you to know the truth, the life and way. Also, consider your family and friends and do not be silent.

Feb 04, 2013 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
we_the_people wrote:

Let The People carry their own protection!
You will NOT get 100% police state coverage unless you give the people the chance to protect themselves.

Feb 04, 2013 12:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Freddy57 wrote:

Isn’t it a little ironic that Jessie Jackson is called ‘civil rights” leader while at the same time he advocates to deny the people of Chicago their rights to defend themselves? I mean, bringing in DHS will not make anyone any safer or stop thugs from victimizing the unarmed populace. I think Jackson needs to do a little soul searching and stop denying people their rights and get back to actually standing up for our civil rights.

Feb 04, 2013 12:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse

If he can afford to pay a bunch of his personal army to go to Chicago then he could afford to just hire more police officers.

Feb 04, 2013 1:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAMark wrote:

Interestingly enough … all the damage poverty pimps like Jackson and Sharpton have caused with their cries of racism and victimization … And narry a word that he (Jackson) is in a large part responsible for the resulting chaos and disfunction. Perhaps Jessie if you weren’t so busy lining your pockets and impregnating other women, you might have been delivering a message of responsibility and education, and today portions of Chicago would not resemble Somalia.

Feb 04, 2013 1:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JAYO wrote:

Jesse Jackson :-) I remember Dick Gregory, who hung out with Jesse while with MLK, posing the question in an interview as to how Jesse could have known so quickly that there weren’t going to be any more shots coming when he ran out, stood up, and pointed to where MKL’s gunman supposedly was (from the famous balcony photo after MLK was shot). It sure did seem like an odd “reaction” to the situation. Made Jesse famous though didn’t it? I had never thought about it…you can tell Gregory has little trust in Jesse Jackson from the way he speaks of him.

Feb 04, 2013 1:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
truckee wrote:

Hey Jessie, in America we don’t use the federal military as police. The reason is simple. Some day we might have a leader that wants to take all power and control. If he has access to the military, this could happen. I know young people disagree, but I suggest they read their history books. The military is for national defense against other countries.

Feb 04, 2013 2:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
acts2380 wrote:

Mr. Jackson, declare Martial Law on LACK OF FAMILY VALUES…gang banger parenting, DRUGS, etc. What you want is to erect a fence around the criminal neighborhoods of chi-town.

Feb 04, 2013 2:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MetalHead8 wrote:

Jesse Jackson is an idoit. He actually thinks semi-auto rifles can shoot down planes and blow up train stations. Look it up if you dont believe me.

Feb 04, 2013 3:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
HankRearden1 wrote:

Aside from gun control, Chicago will not even allow you to put bars on your windows…against code…

Feb 04, 2013 3:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

This thread is another, one of many, shining example of what the right has devolved too….

1. Straight up racists…’When blacks move in, the community starts a downward spiral to something like Philly, Detroit, Chicago, LA,…happens every time’

2. Paranoid Conspiracists, All the talk in this thread about national police in the such, not one word in the article supports this (unless of course you include the first comment by Jason_C)

3. Unable to see connections…Many talk about how Chicago has tough gun laws yet still has high gun violence, thus concluding that ‘gun laws do not work’. What they fail to realize is that dealers by large quantities of guns, mostly legally, in other states that have looser gun laws then IL then brought to the streets of Chicago and sold at a tidy profit illegally,but because there are many loopholes in checks, these high volume purchasers are unable to be tracked and prosecuted.

I know none of you righties/Obama haters will understand this, but this is a post for the reasonable people of the world.

Feb 04, 2013 4:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Let’s see, is the the same administration that FORCED firearms retailers to sell weapons to Mexican drug cartels? Firearms that have murdered several Americans and over 400 Mexican citizens?

The icing on the cake would be Holder driving up the loop throwing out guns.

Stupid is as stupid does. Relying on The Mansion to do the right thing is as STUPID a solution as any Chicagoan has dreamed up as yet.

Feb 04, 2013 4:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@ANdy_whitehead, to quote you ‘Let’s see, is the the same administration that FORCED firearms retailers to sell weapons to Mexican drug cartels? Firearms that have murdered several Americans and over 400 Mexican citizens?’ That NEVER happened, I assume you are talking about ‘Fast and Furious’, if so what happened there was the ATF MONITORED (no involvement in the sale) known gun runners and then did not apprehend them, letting the guns ‘walk’. While misguided, this was an attempt to see where the guns ended up. There was no forcing of gun sales, these gun dealers where simply doing something they did already and they had NO knowledge that the ATF was tracking them.

So maybe you ought to look a little inward with your ‘Stupid is as Stupid does’ comment.

Feb 04, 2013 5:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ldb853 wrote:

so 150 marched, that’s not much of a parade

the problem is no jobs because of the great society experiment where many in Chicago have nothing to do other than commit crime and kill each other

Feb 04, 2013 5:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Mpalmer2012 wrote:

to me, either your for the constitution or against it. you cannot be both for it and or against it, it will make you look like a lie’n hypercritical joke. Try to take my gun, your gonna need a warrant issued by federal court. That’s it!

Feb 04, 2013 7:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MikeyLikesIt wrote:

I was wondering when USAPrag was going to come screaming in crying ra-ra-ra-racism! Insulting the “right” and throwing around the usual “obama haters”.

Welome troll! As you can see, the tide is agaisnt you as you are the ONLY person that is actually willing to defend the situation in Chicago. I guess facts are racist now, eh?

Feb 05, 2013 11:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
Broey77 wrote:

We need to implement a national registry to track the number of sales each day with a maximum purchase limit of 3 regardless of where purchased. And we need a national Permit process where you have to have a permit before you can buy one and go through training.

We are talking about Alcohol right? I mean, it was cited in 900,000 child abuse cases last year, and over 10,000 killed by drunk drivers. I think its time we had an honest discussion of banning any alcohol over a 5% Alcohol content and ban the sale of Alcohol after 9pm.

Ooh wait! You don’t like it when I talk about removing the freedoms you enjoy, but its ok when you want to talk about removing the freedoms I enjoy? I know liberals are Hypocrites, and love their wine, but try telling the almost 1 million children abused last year how you banned all Semi-Auto Rifles used in less then 500 murders last year while ignoring the pain they feel from alcohol.

Good job there!

Feb 05, 2013 2:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
txguy2112 wrote:

I propose a similar concept to Godwin’s law for when someone brings up the race card because someone disagrees with them.

Feb 05, 2013 2:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@MikeyLikesit, SO please tell me how ‘When blacks move in, the community starts a downward spiral to something like Philly, Detroit, Chicago, LA,…happens every time’ is not a racist comment? and that was only one plenty of others in this thread.

And I am far from defending the situation in Chicago, it is terrible, but it is also called proper problem analysis. If your root cause analysis is wrong, your proposals to fix the problem are therefore going to be bad. And dismissing the fact that the lack of proper NATIONAL purchase/background checks is part of the cause of the prevalence of guns on the streets of Chicago would be an improper root cause analysis. Am I saying it is the only cause of the violence, no I am not, but easy access to guns is one of them.

Feb 05, 2013 3:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jaham wrote:

@Pragmatist said: “@MikeyLikesit, SO please tell me how ‘When blacks move in, the community starts a downward spiral to something like Philly, Detroit, Chicago, LA,…happens every time’ is not a racist comment? and that was only one plenty of others in this thread.”

Well, it could also be viewed as an empirically objective observation, as well.

But, charges of bigotry are much more amusing than actually trying to solve this cultural problem.

Feb 05, 2013 4:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@jaham, if you do not think that comment is blatantly racist, then you are most likely racist yourself. Pretty simple.

And as theNewWorld said, it is a socioeconomic problem, not a cultural one. Unlike him, you are not a reasonable person (at least from nature of posts) while he and I disagree about most policy positions, he at least bases his arguments on facts 8 out of 10 times, while you maybe 1 out of 10 if your lucky.

Feb 05, 2013 5:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@USAPragmatist

I will take that as a compliment. Blaming a race for issues is indeed racist. This happens more often with people who have little to no exposure to others of a different race, in other words ignorance. I have lived with in the middle of these places, certainly not as bad as Chicago, but a good friend from my college years was from South Chicago and a member of the GDs (Gangster Disciples) when he was younger. He said not carrying a gun was the same thing as being naked. He always packed heat everywhere. This was cultural because of how he grew up, not because he was black.

When I lived in Columbus, Ohio, I got a job, and out of a training class of 29 I was the only white male in the room. Coming from WV this was the opposite of what I was used to. It does make you a little uncomfortable, especially when you are younger. But you adjust quickly. As you make more and more friends of other races, your innate racist tendencies will become less and less. You will still be aware that there are others who will hate you, or try and intimidate you because of your race, but they are individuals and the minority. Others may mistrust you, but racial issues has been a long standing issue in our country due to how we handled Native Americans, slavery, and in general being a nation of immigrants.

I think the GOP has more racists than the DNC, just by demographics there are more rural areas that are predominantly white, and they probably still equate the problems in the cities to race out of ignorance. I dont think it is an issue where they hate those who arent like them, more of a lack of understanding, and exposure to other cultures and races.

@jaham

It has nothing to do with race, there are plenty of white people and latinos in the projects who will do what they have to do survive and make a better life for themselves. A black family moving into an area makes no difference. If the government moves in and brings HUD or high density public housing, that is when you will see the difference. The system is a trap, and the best way out of the trap is either a college education and a good job, or under the table income. Most of your gangsters are entrepreneurs and I wonder how many lives would be different if the prohibition on drugs ended, and the social nets were created to encourage employment rather than punish it.

Feb 05, 2013 8:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@USAPragmatist

“he at least bases his arguments on facts 8 out of 10 times”

80% is quite generous, I troll or feed trolls more than 20% of the time.

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jaham wrote:

@pragmatist said: “@jaham, if you do not think that comment is blatantly racist, then you are most likely racist yourself. Pretty simple.”

And if you are unable to distinguish between the objective reality underlying a stereotype and a “racism”, then you are likely a bigot yourself. Pretty simple.

Feb 06, 2013 8:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
jaham wrote:

@thenewworld said: “It has nothing to do with race, there are plenty of white people and latinos in the projects who will do what they have to do survive and make a better life for themselves. A black family moving into an area makes no difference. If the government moves in and brings HUD or high density public housing, that is when you will see the difference. The system is a trap, and the best way out of the trap is either a college education and a good job, or under the table income. Most of your gangsters are entrepreneurs and I wonder how many lives would be different if the prohibition on drugs ended, and the social nets were created to encourage employment rather than punish it”.

I fully agree with everything you wrote. My only point was to say that statistics do support blacks being involved in more crime, are incarcerated more, etc. and that making a statement that can be empirically substantiated should not immediately lead one to charges of “racism”.

I also agree that the quote pragmatist used was not terribly objective, but I just get tired of everyone making charges of racism at the drop of a hat. I realize being a criminal has nothing to do with the color of your skin, rather the content of your character which is largely a function of the culture you were raised in.

BTW, I think if we legalized drugs, prostitution and the other profit opportunities in the black market, this criminal underclass would be forced to pursue education and hard work as their only means to a better life.

Feb 06, 2013 8:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
jaham wrote:

@pragmatist said: ” it is a socioeconomic problem, not a cultural one”

Are you suggesting that all “poor” people of lower socioeconomic status are criminals? Do you not see that statement as equally as discriminatory as the comment you chided @Mikeylikesit for?

Of course, the statistics would likely support your claim in the same empirical fashion I mentioned, but it doesn’t prove cause and effect.

While poverty can be a motivator, I disagree that it necessarily motivates people to partake in criminal activities.

Rather it is the culture that a person was raised in and the resulting content of their character which determines whether one takes that motivation of poverty and earns themselves a full-ride, academic-merit scholarship or, instead, uses that motivation of poverty to pursue the quick buck via black market and/or criminal activities.

Feb 06, 2013 8:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
fxnusa wrote:

Guns are already illegal in Chicago, how could they possibly have a gun violence problem? Isn’t banning guns the whole solution to the problem?

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txguy2112 wrote:

It should also be noted that the culture within these areas is that being a criminal, thug, gangster, etc. is considered to be a good thing and makes you cool whereas going to school and trying to better yourself is considered to be selling out. This cultural aspect needs to be changed to make any real progress.

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TheNewWorld wrote:

@jaham

It is supported by empirical data. And I agree claims of racism are used too often. Quite a bit of the reason why that data is what it is, is due to our past history of racism in the country. And due to that racism we have generations of white people who feel guilt for their ancestors and create systems that are proving to be damaging to the people they are trying to help.

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smeagol wrote:

I think Jesse has the start of a great idea. Instead of Homeland Security though I think we should just start another federal bureaucracy and give it a more appropriate name in line with Democratic policy. How about the brown shirts or maybe go straight to the SS?

Feb 07, 2013 7:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
bluepanther wrote:

Why should the President run to Chicago for a useless photo op? Where are the Chicago FAMILIES dealing with their feral children? And what about the Chicago POLITICIANS? What is the absurdly over petted and over praised Mayor Emanuel–who did such a brilliant job in the White House, remember?–doing?

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