U.S. lawmakers in Cuba to see Raul Castro, jailed contractor Gross

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majkmushrm wrote:

This is so stupid and arrogant. This Gross person was in Cuba deliberately doing things to subvert the Cuban government. We caught 4 Cubans subverting things here in the US and we threw them in jail. Why would anyone think that the Cuban government would react any differently?

We pass a law that says that unless Cuba completely transforms its government so that we like it, we will continue to embargo it. If some country demanded that we change our government to satisfy them, I know what my reaction would be. Why would anyone think that Cuba’s reaction would be any different?

Fools.

Feb 18, 2013 6:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Just goes to show how distant any government is from the population. It is the US government alone, and not its citizens, who has a problem with Cuba. It’s about time we threw all the politicians in an arena and let them fight it out amongst themselves and leave us all alone. The embargo on Cuba is ridiculous. So what if they are communist. So is China, but we wouldn’t dare play that game with them, would we?

Feb 18, 2013 9:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
traffikator wrote:

No retreat no surrender. You have been living with this gross US travesty for more than a lifetime, do not give up the struggle now. The US should change the 1966 law. And under no circumstances should Gross be released. He was breaking Laws of Cuba and should never see the light of day again. People please read about the Republican passed 1996 ‘Helms-Burton Law. US always tries to circumvent the Laws of other nations even to the point of making Laws here. They should lift the stupid embargo! Only the people of Cuba are suffering as a direct result of US involvement. And they still have a Cuba base that the Cubans do not want and they won’t leave that island. What if the Cubans declared war on the “occupiers”? This nonsense trying to force other nations into colying has got to stop! They cannot force the Teabaggers to accept this black President and work with him, yet they they expect to force other nations to do as we say? the nerve.

Feb 18, 2013 9:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
McBob08 wrote:

The fact that Gross actually was working for a subversive program against Cuba is just beside the point, I suppose.

Feb 18, 2013 9:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
hkrieger wrote:

A recent visit to Cuba:
“See See Havana”
www.efn.org/~hkrieger/cuba.htm

Feb 18, 2013 9:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
HawaiianNeal wrote:

Aloha and thank you for your efforts and service. These are my personal thoughts on the issue….

Having just been to Cuba on a Professional Research license from OFAC, while in the process of performing my published schedule of research activities, I had the opportunity to interface with many Cuban citizens on my 10 mile walk from Old Habana to the dive shop in Mirmar. Two things were clear to me at the end of my trip (outside of the actual research findings).

1) The embargo has failed to achieve its intended goal. The Castro’s are exceedingly rich and the populous is under great personal stress.

2) The Chinese government is making strides (via the Venezuelan Connection) to develop a fraternal relationship with the Cuban government.

We now have the opportunity to rid the island nation of HUGE potential threats to the US by normalizing relations with this impoverished nation and win the hearts and minds of the Cuban people to effect the changes the Embargo failed for over 50 years to do. Cuba, itself, is a loss to China and the former USSR. The only reason they take the loss on developing ties with Cuba, is its proximity to the US and we keep playing right into their hands.

As to the issue mentioned here, Mr. Gross was found guilty of violating Cuban law on unauthorized installation of radio frequency equipment (satellite phones) which here in the US (Telecommunications Act of 1996) carries a first time fine of up to $10,000 and prison time. Somewhere I read that a repeat offender can be fined as much as $100,000 and 10 years per offense. This does not include the US also lopping on “terrorist” fines and incarceration as well. I’m not sure why Mr. Gross deserves such preferential treatment here, but Mr. Gross is admittedly guilty of committing this offense in a sovereign nation. The correct and fair thing to do here is to ask Cuba (and for us to also) to agree to be bound by and submit Mr. Gross’s case (and our Cuban 5 case) to an international court for disposition. This is the proper diplomatic solution to both issues.In Cuba, Mr. Gross DID do what he is accused of according to every account (even ours) and the Cuban 5 are accused of 1 activist in a murder and 4 conspirators as I have read it. I am also not sure Mr. Gross did not violate the OFAC “Trading with the Enemies” Act in providing technology in Cuba that the Cuban government could readily seize and use against the US. In allowing this behavior, the U.S. would be opening the doors to the importation of technology directly to the Cuban government via the guise of “Helping dissidents” with the seller notifying the Cuban government of the time, dates, and locations of shipment. We need to be really smart here. Does Cuba really still deserve to be the largest threat to the US with the annual expenditures required to enforce the embargo? For me, the answer is clear. Quit with all the personal agenda issues and normalize the relationship. Cuba is a far lessor threat than Venezuela…… they just do not have the oil Venezuela does.

Feb 19, 2013 4:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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