Abe: Japan acting calmly in island dispute with China

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mgunn wrote:

Act calmly?? While the chinese apparently overreacted, the islands were already under effective control of the Japanese all along. The whole thing that started this was a right-winger (Ishihara) pushing for the purchase of the islands precisely as a provocative gesture, even though the Japanese already control it.

Feb 22, 2013 11:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Kailim wrote:

The decision to handover administrative rights of Diaoyu Islands to Japan, but not specifically ceding sovereignty, was purely out of cold war consideration by the US in the 70s. At that time the US had not much choice as she did not feel comfortable with Republic Of China, and she regarded People’s Repiblic Of China as an adversary. I believe that is the reason why Obama does not mention this dispute; not just trying not to provoking China but has no solid rationale to supporting Japan. Therefore Abe has to act calmly without Obama’s shoring up.

Anyway Abe gains economically by having Obama’s tacit approval for currency manipulation in order to export more to the US. The trade deficits of the US will certainly be deepened. Not just by allowing more Japanese imports, but weakening the grounds of accusing China for maintaining a low RMB. It is a pity that the US will be losing the trade war at both fronts.

Duplicity hurts your own nation, Mr. Obama.

Feb 23, 2013 1:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
Kailim wrote:

There are many comments here suggesting us to forget the Japanese atrocities done to us long long time ago. In fact I agree wholeheartedly. Hatred will do us no better future. We should seek harmony with everyone.

However Japanese government’s ongoing efforts to distorting their history textbooks and denial of their atrocities simply request us to never forget the past.

Abulafiah have just reminded us that there was a treaty, the Treaty of Shimonoseki, signed by us at gun point in 1895. We ceded not only Diaoyu Islands but also Taiwan and Penghu to Japan by that treaty.

Prior to the Treaty of Shimonoseki, we ceded Hongkong to the UK by the Treaty of Nanking. Nowadays we have Hongkong returned to us. But that is not enough. We must carry on to recover all territories ceded to other nations by unequal treaties being forced at gun point. Thanks Abulafiah for your reminder.

Feb 24, 2013 8:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Kailim

Yes. of course. Chinese should be dishonest and renege on treaties when they don’t like them anymore. Hey… why doesn’t the whole world follow the Chinese lead? It would be a much better world… full of dishonest nations who can’t be trusted – right?

Maybe we should take the same line with japan, who signed a treaty to return all land taken in WW2. By your “never honour a treaty” argument, Japan could say they were forced to sign a gun point, after being nuked even, and China should be returned to them.

Is that your view, or is it one rule for the Chinese and another rule for the Japanese?

Feb 24, 2013 11:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

@Kailim

Yes. of course. Chinese should be dishonest and renege on treaties when they don’t like them anymore. Hey… why doesn’t the whole world follow the Chinese lead? It would be a much better world… full of dishonest nations who can’t be trusted – right?

Maybe we should take the same line with japan, who signed a treaty to return all land taken in WW2. By your “never honour a treaty” argument, Japan could say they were forced to sign a gun point, after being nuked even, and China should be returned to them.

Is that your view, or is it one rule for the Chinese and another rule for the Japanese?

Feb 24, 2013 11:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Abulafiah, war between China and Japan was never finished on their own term, Japan didn’t wipe out Chinese and Chinese sure didn’t repel Japan on it’s own. Generations of animosity is not going to end well. I don’t know how you arrived at China should be return to them (Japan) logic, by your logic, if I parked my car in front of your driveway supposed I’m entitled to your house as well.

Feb 25, 2013 2:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Abulafiah wrote:

FishingatLarge… I see that the concept of sarcasm is lost on you.

Feb 25, 2013 8:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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