China rebukes North Korea, says no state should sow chaos

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CDN_Rebel wrote:

I am the only surprised that so many countries actually have embassies in Pyongyang?

Apr 06, 2013 9:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

@ CDN_Rebel

I am too. Western media always describe NK as reclusive and isolated. But even the UK has an ambassy there. There is a huge gap between media reports and reality.

Apr 06, 2013 11:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
McBob08 wrote:

This is ridiculous. There isn’t going to be a war. Kim might be a self-delusional narcissist, but he’s not so stupid as to believe that the moment he attacks South Korea, NATO won’t will blow his little nation off the map. This is all about internal North Korean politics. Kim Jong Un is just trying to present himself as the guardian of the nation, standing between his people and the savagery of the NATO nations. He’s not stupid enough to launch any nukes (not that he’s even capable of reaching Japan with a nuke, let alone America).

He’s showing he will respond when NATO provokes NK by imposing more sanctions and holding war games a mere 50 miles from the NK border. Ignore the right-wing, warmonger talking heads that scream that we’re on the brink of war. We aren’t. We aren’t any closer than we were at any other time in the past 60 years.

Apr 06, 2013 12:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@McBob08

You are using western logic to describe Kim. He may be a dillysional psychopath that believes he is destined to crush the US, Japan and reunify Korea. No matter what the world should not act like threats of targeting population centers with Nukes is acceptable, no matter if they are likely or not. I am a non interventionalist, but this is entirely different than anything we have seen since the cold war. JFK would have had a fleet at North Koreas front door by now.

Apr 06, 2013 12:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
drewschott wrote:

I feel the main thing that should be expressed is that children should not be allowed to have weapons. This includes adults who act like children. In this case we have a country who is acting like a child. This child wants weapons, and they need a spanking.
The international community has a chance to stop this, by ignoring them.
I know this infringes on the freedom of speech, so it must be up to the media… No longer post anything about this, in any way. Make a call to action for other news agencies and countries to do the same. This is being fueled by media, and only media can stop it.

Apr 07, 2013 2:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BiteRight wrote:

Never had in U.S. history when an enemy proposed a fight and we back off by putting off intercontinental missile test, for what ? for another Pearl Harbor ? I am afraid it may happen again if Obama yields further to a peanut nation like North Korea, which can be removed by a thumb press.

Apr 07, 2013 3:46am EDT  --  Report as abuse
VonHell wrote:

I imagine NK like any poor country before globalization… what we used to call 3rd world… self sustained economy… the ones with more natural resources in better shape than others… exporting a few raw materials and importing even fewer manufactured goods… no big corporation, banks, etc…
In the time US tourists used to go to Brazil and amaze themselves how much they could do, visit and buy with a few thousand dollars… but today everything changed… they are err “emergents”… everithing is ultra expensive… you pay twice the price for the same car without automatic transmission and finance it in 60 months doubling the price again… corporations and banks sucking the blood to the bonemeal, organized crime armed to the teeth… ask the tourists now hehehe…
If NK is part of UN there is no reason for no other embassies in the country just because US has none…
We are used to Cuba as example… but Cuba has much less resources than NK and it is more isolated as an island… Despite what US media says… the err “impoverished” country… the images we have of Pyongyang at least are from a place in much better shape than Bolivia, Paraguay, err Detroit…etc…

Apr 07, 2013 5:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
UPYERS wrote:

It’s kind of like a comic book evil regime from old Dick Tracy stories.

Apr 07, 2013 7:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse
hnc wrote:

Bite and McB, You guys heard of the phrase “bull in a china shop”? Well, NK may not be a bull, but a rabbit dog can also make a mess. Kim don’t have anything that reaches eastern US but California etc may not be 100% safe, let alone Japan and S.Korea. So Kim or your “thumb” may very well crush these dear allies – US’s current footholds in Asia. Plus, no nuclear war in local. Russia and China have their own agenda too. What will the map look like after the dust settles? … Do you want to see it?

Apr 07, 2013 8:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ctyankee57 wrote:

After watching a National Geographic documentory on NK I realizied that this about losing face with them. Like the Russians in Cuba, They have to be led away from the self destructive path by whom ever they choose to trust.

Apr 07, 2013 8:59am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Globalman wrote:

This is the type of crisis that can be dangerous with President Obama. He has no clue on how to handle it and has surrounded himself with advisors whom do not either. He is sending the wrong message to NK and Iran by delaying our missile test. It is time to stay firm. Hitler was given a pass prior to WWII and look what transpired. History has taught us if we appear weak then the worst does eventually happen.

Apr 07, 2013 10:19am EDT  --  Report as abuse
wallylind wrote:

The garrison in Korea should be reinforced by at least a couple of armored divisions and another infantry division. Maybe that would quite down Mr Kim. The best he has in conventional forces is that old soviet crap, which we have defeated more than once. His nuclear capacities are primitive compared to ours and barely survivable. If he attacks the South, and that’s the only way war starts, he’ll make initial gains, then be destroyed. Then we will have South Korean forces on the Yalu River, across from China, and we’ll see if they want to do it all over again.

Apr 07, 2013 10:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Nuphlius wrote:

Whenever people say the “America’s going to hell” or “that’s what’s wrong with the world” rhetoric, I just don’t get it. What and where is this utopia where everything was once perfect? The history of the world is an unbroken line of conflict, deceit, avarice, narcissism, murder, and atrocious, abhorrent behavior. We live today in a state of relative security (in the developed countries). America does not wear the white hat. We are not the good guys. This is not the movies. We’ve done great and wonderful things, and horrible, disgusting things. We’re human. Our country is not a personification of us. It’s a government and lines on a map.

Apr 07, 2013 10:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bagehot wrote:

It’s true that North Korea would not last very long in a conventional fight with the Americans. The problem is the U.S. and other troops already on the border: every installation has been pre-sited down to the meter by NK artillery. A surprise 2 hour barrage could kill hundreds and guess who will be blamed. As in Iraq and Afghanistan, there can be a thin line between occupier and hostage. Obama doesn’t have to get into a waggle contest with a missile test here, a sortie there. If Kim Jong-un blows it with Beijing, the NK military lose their real benefactor. You can fill in the rest yourselves.

Apr 07, 2013 10:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
usa.wi.vet.4q wrote:

China has finally realized this spoiled little creep may bring nuclear war to their country? I thought the Obama administration was clueless. Now I realize they both are. Let the little fat guy keep it up and you will also pay.

Apr 07, 2013 11:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
MKM23 wrote:

It should not be surprising that there are embassies there as some posters posted above. Just because a country is a dictatorship, does not necessarily mean it does not have relations with other countries. The US has an embassy for Somalia and Somalia has no government.

Apr 07, 2013 11:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BobBugman wrote:

Obama provides no protection for US embassies. He let Americans die in Benghazi. He is a complete disaster and should have been impeached years ago.

Apr 07, 2013 11:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

Never back down when dealing with a bully. That’s a lesson NK is teaching coward countries.

Apr 07, 2013 11:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dazed2 wrote:

It’s a bit strange when China is the voice of reason in this situation. I don’t think we should be conducting war games over there. Stay prepared, but publicly ignore N. Korea’s rhetoric.

Apr 07, 2013 12:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hawkeye19 wrote:

Why is the NK military so into big hats of various shapes and styles? It’s a rather bizarre fashion show in every news photo that hits the wires.

Apr 07, 2013 12:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

“U.S. policy for dealing with the North Korean situation is inadequate because it focuses on North Korea in isolation as a rogue state, and naively seeks help from the Russians and Chinese to solve the problem. The North Korea situation and any future nuclear incident, wherever it occurs, must be seen against the background of Sino-Soviet ‘convergence’ strategy: the interaction of Russian and Chinese policy and the moves they make to derive strategic gains from critical situations should be closely studied.” – KGB Defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn, “The Perestroika Deception”, March 1989, p. 46.

Not a year goes by that another prediction by Golitsyn doesn’t come true!

Now you know why Russian military aircraft still have the hated Communist Red Star on their wings/tail fin, and why NEW Russian naval vessels have the hated Communist Red Star placed on their bows. That hated Communist symbol represented the 74 years that the minority Communist Party of the Soviet Union (representing no more than 10% of the adult population) persecuted majority population, and would have been immediately removed from all such military hardware if the collapse of the USSR were legitimate.

For those not clued-in, the collapse of the USSR was a disinformation operation under the “Long-Range Policy” (LRP), the “new” and more suble strategy all Communist nations signed onto in 1960 to defeat the West with. The next major disinformation operation under the LRP will be the upcoming fraudulent collapse of the Chinese Communist government, subsequent to which Taiwan will be politically stymied from not joining the mainland.

For more on the LRP, read KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn’s 1984 book, “New Lies for Old”, available at Internet Archive or your public library.

Apr 07, 2013 12:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Carmi wrote:

Arizona1001: Holy Moly, dude. Seriously? I’m totally flabbergasted by your ??? whatever it was.

Apr 07, 2013 12:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ronron wrote:

As usual, we caved and now are on the weak side of any action. We should have said “if you are not at least 10 miles back from the border, your missile that you moved to the coast has to be unshielded and in plain sight to our satellites, and all military vessels returned to port, we put your entire country under a no fly zone immediately”.

Apr 07, 2013 12:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Verpoly wrote:

Agreed with Fromkin totally. Obama has made Americans look like a bunch of cowards when confronting Kim jong un. That’s why Israelis no longer trust him to deal with Iran. And Netanyahu now sings everyday Eric Carmen’s “All by myself”.

Apr 07, 2013 12:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mrlibra64 wrote:

Appears North Korea needs some money again.

Apr 07, 2013 1:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mrlibra64 wrote:

Appears North Korea needs some money again.

Apr 07, 2013 1:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

@Arizona 1001

LOL… Dude, you have a serious mental condition!! You need a straight jacket LOL

Apr 07, 2013 2:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sydchaden wrote:

North Korea is sustained by China’s support. It could not starve its people, maintain a huge military, engage in missile and nuclear weapon development, without China’s support. It could not threaten South Korea, and Japan, and the USA, without China’s support. To view the matter otherwise is a diplomatic fantasy.

Apr 07, 2013 2:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
PacRimJim wrote:

China foments trouble via North Korea.
Then China warns against a response to North Korea’s provocations.
Time to stop playing this game.
Cut off ties with China.

Apr 07, 2013 2:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mgunn wrote:

Amazing how much people project what they think china can do to n korea, because we know what we try to do to maintain influence throughout the world with our “aid”. Yet it’s obvious we don’t control very well the Israeli, Iraqi, and Afghani government just to name a few examples.

Apr 07, 2013 3:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Freddy12 wrote:

This is all BS since North Korea as well as China stand no chance of coming out winners. They will be annihilated even if USA went non nuclear.

Apr 07, 2013 3:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

do not give ‘em another dang dime, not another! this has been going on for 50 yrs. this is how they survive, by doing this and the ‘powersthat be’, giving in and keeping their economy afloat.

do not give ‘em another penny!!!

Apr 07, 2013 4:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sylvan wrote:

The US seems to be asking China’s guidance and following their advice in exchange for Beijing telling the little emperor, he has no clothes.

Apr 07, 2013 5:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

I am thankful that Obama is not reacting imprudently. Imagine a GOP administration, we would have troops on the ground in iraq, Afghanistan, syria, libya, and now dprk. Thankfully there is an end to the warmongering policies of the GOP. For you deficit hawks, please explain how the cost of another war, $Trillion, is justified here?

We do not need to start wars with impoverished nations who hate America to prove our strength!

Apr 07, 2013 6:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Neurochuck wrote:

Which of the above comments follow the Kim Dynasty pattern of “military first” to protect the privileges and wealth of the military industrial elite, suppress democratic dissent and alternative policies, exaggerate the gains and hide the costs of military actions, isolate the nation from the rest of the world, produce more fear and provoke retaliation, impoverish the general population, and cripple economic development.
Karl Rove looks a bit like a relative of Kim.

Apr 07, 2013 6:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

McCain (and I live in Az, btw) needs to STFU. I agree with Dazed2…keep a low profile but be prepared. North Korea is absolutely no threat to the U.S. Sure they can fire a missile, but it will be the very last thing they do. And Kim knows this. Propaganda is how N. Korea keeps control over their poor population. Kim’s taking a shot at the title. “Grand Champion of Propaganda”. What the west really needs to do, is make sure he isn’t rewarded for this BS. There needs to be consequences for these actions.

Apr 07, 2013 7:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Timbuk3

We are already at war with North Korea. We already have troops on the ground in South Korea. What you say about the GOP is not true. Bush set the timeline for our withdrawel from Iraq. Obama asked Iraq if we could keep troops in Iraq beyond the GOP’s time to withdrawel. Obama has us operating in more theaters than Bush had us in. Yemen, Quatar, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya just to name a few. Democrats love their wars just as much as the GOP. They like to be the world’s police force. The GOP likes to be the dominating military. Both are just as bad as the other. But know this, threatening South Korea, Japan, and even our own borders with nuclear attacks should never be blown off as insignificant by either party. You are acting like Chamberlain with Germany…

Apr 07, 2013 7:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BruceGold wrote:

North Korea has actually managed to make China mad. They don’t have a friend in the entire world.

Apr 07, 2013 8:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ARJTurgot2 wrote:

Okay, I am no fan of Obama’s failing administration, but he has actually done a good job on NK. But ‘China says’, etc.: If the this was Japan, I would call ‘China says’ Kabuki, a ritualized drama, but I am not informed on Chinese drama so am somewhat at a loss. NK does what China tells it. It gets its ammo from China, its centrifuges, its finance. This all stops when China REALLY tells it to, not when it says it has.

Apr 07, 2013 8:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

TheNewWorld..”shirley” you jest! The Republican’s, particularly McCain have attacked Obama for not being more aggressive in those countries you list. If the far right in the GOP had their way, we would have attacked Iran already.

Apr 07, 2013 8:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hawkeye19 wrote:

China needs to cut off Dear Leader’s supply of candy bars and milk shakes until he learns to behave himself.

Apr 07, 2013 8:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
explorer08 wrote:

@ Arizona1001: your comments are completely without merit, lacking in substantiation. But, then, I see you are from Arizona.

Apr 07, 2013 10:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ed57 wrote:

Well I only hope that these “veiled” comments by China are followed up with a change/reduction in material support for N. Korea.

Apr 07, 2013 11:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MrEz wrote:

I tend to favor the notion its all internal showmanship to shore up his image as the big banana around there. But errors in the past and mistakes and lines crossed unintentionally have triggered the wiz of bullets back n forth so it could escalate into a local skirmish but i dont think NK is so foolish to push any real buttons. However it forces everyone to go thru the motions of taking it all to heart. Id put my money on two notices went to the embassies. One official stating no guarantees and one unofficial stating just hold your britches and this will be over soon enough. So i think the drama will wrap up here soon. And we will be back on irans bottom..negotiating and pretending we are solving the palestine issue. Dont switch that tv button ..

Apr 07, 2013 12:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

explorer08…as absolutely whacked out as Arizona 1001′s comments are, please try not to stereotype. I’ve lived in Az for the past 30 years. I assure you there are millions of normal, hard working RATIONAL people living here. Though we do elect some colorful people to Governor (Nepolitano, Brewer and Mecham, i.e.). I blame that on all those mormons that live out in Mesa and Apache Junction :).

Apr 08, 2013 2:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
geo_citzn wrote:

Folks think he’s just talking trash and doesn’t want to fight, but haven’t you seen a fight when two people who don’t want to fight won’t back down? I pray you are right, but the situation is chaotic and not easily predictable. He’s a pampered child with a crown, raised by manipulators. He’s as crazy as Hitler – would Hitler have used nukes at the end of the war? Yes!

Apr 08, 2013 10:53am EDT  --  Report as abuse
RabbitNexus wrote:

On the other hand given that North Korea is being provoked quite deliberately at least until recently, by a nation with a singularly spectactular history of warfare and aggression; China may not necessarily be referring to North Korea.

Apr 09, 2013 1:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Kolaskijoe wrote:

Still no mention of True Parents and the Unification Church . They are the only nation on Earth that recognizes the Messiah . If the South Koreans understand their own position in the Providence of Restoration , then we can unite the world and eliminate atheistic communism . And finally let the Brotherhood of Islam and Christianity merge as God wants .

Apr 11, 2013 6:19am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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