Senate backs border amendment to immigration bill

Waste of time and money. Be better to reform the immigration process. Drop country quotas, do for all immigrates as we do for Cubans. Show up on US soil, give them a green card, do a background check and after one year allow them to apply for citizenship.

Getting rid of decade long waits, high legal fees and there would be no reason for people to come in the back door.

The only way to stop illegal immigration is to use COMPUTERS.

The US military has the most advanced cyber-warfare system on Earth, and they use it everyday. The NSA (National Security Agency) has the most sophisticated surveillance system on Earth, and it is tasked with protecting America from foreigners, exactly what we are faced with the current unprecedented, massive illegal immigration into America.

Computers are being used for everything today, including running this very forum at Reuters.

There are already plenty of laws on the books against illegal immigration into America. They need only to be enforced.

Instead, when a sheriff in Arizona attempts to do his duty to uphold the law and protect his country, he is sued by the Obama administration.

We don’t need this new law. We need to ENFORCE the laws already on the books.

This senate bill is a sham put forth by big money, because big money benefits from immigration. Increase the supply of labor, and wage rates go down, driving profits ever higher and higher.

The information is out there, already collected by the NSA. Simply start using it against the foreign invaders, as the NSA was created to do.

Immigration is destroying the American middle class.

It’s all about supply and demand.

If you increase the supply of labor, wage rates will fall.

If the supply of labor is constricted, as was the case in America before NAFTA, wage rates naturally rise.

Wage rates for all middle class professions are dropping in America.

Immigration is destroying America.

Great news and I have full faith in this gang of eight and everybody behind working on this bill (immigration); I pray that it passes into a law within this year. May God bless Broehner so that he calms down to realize that he needs to support immigration bill at this critical state because it will otherwise may never happen which also means Republicans are done for good – never to be seen in the WH.

Unfortunately this bill is dead on arrival of the House. They have more important thinks to take on, like voting to repeal Obamacare for the 30th+ time -_- . The U.S. House of Representatives, the place where legislation goes to die :D

BOTH types of immigration drive down wage rates for the local citizens.

LEGAL IMMIGRATION – This year the USA allowed 1,060,000 legal immigrants. These immigrants flooded the labor market, driving down wage-rates and displacing hundreds of thousands American citizens from their jobs.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION – This year the amount of illegal immigration into the USA is estimated to be 3 million foreigners, on top of the estimated 30 million that were already here.

Importantly, both types of immigration do great harm to the American middle class worker, destroying careers and family, and driving housing costs and rents sharply higher.

Both the ILLEGALS and the LEGALS are highly destructive to the American middle class worker.

Great news and I have full faith in this gang of eight and everybody behind working on this bill (immigration); I pray that it passes into a law within this year. May God bless Broehner so that he calms down to realize that he needs to support immigration bill at this critical state because it will otherwise may never happen which also means Republicans are done for good – never to be seen in the WH.

Forty six Billion and most likely will go over budget. U S Congress is less than 10%. July, August, September then October Budget battle begins. I predict they will adjourn for the Thanksgiving season.

If Republicans stand up for the American middle class during this legislative onslaught by foreigners and big money, then Republicans will be supported by the American middle class when America descends into civil war:

America as a Nation vs. many millions of invading foreigners, taking over every street corner and institution in America, including the Democratic party.

The Coker-Hoeven amendment is a sham.

The amendment intends to mollify the Republicans who are concerned about border security. The amendment, which has been dubbed as a surge in border security, calls for a 10-year period for implementation. Meanwhile, the borders remain porous and there will be a surge and a floodgate of people coming into the US to take advantage of the amnesty provision (it is called provisional to make it palatable to the Republicans).

It is necessary to make the borders secure before enacting any immigration reforms. It will take a minimum of 3 years to put all the security mechanisms in place and make the borders effectively secure from an operational point of view. Only then, there can be talk of comprehensive immigration reform, including amnesty.

After 27 years following the 1986 immigration reform, there has been a surge of 11 miilion illegal immigrants. By the time it takes to implement measures in the Coker-Hoeven amendment in 10 years time, there will be 10 million more coming in.

The Coker-Hoeven amendment is a sham.

The amendment intends to mollify the Republicans who are concerned about border security. The amendment, which has been dubbed as a surge in border security, calls for a 10-year period for implementation. Meanwhile, the borders remain porous and there will be a surge and a floodgate of people coming into the US to take advantage of the amnesty provision (it is called provisional to make it palatable to the Republicans).

It is necessary to make the borders secure before enacting any immigration reforms. It will take a minimum of 3 years to put all the security mechanisms in place and make the borders effectively secure from an operational point of view. Only then, there can be talk of comprehensive immigration reform, including amnesty.

After 27 years following the 1986 immigration reform, there has been a surge of 11 miilion illegal immigrants. By the time it takes to implement measures in the Coker-Hoeven amendment in 10 years time, there will be 10 million more coming in.

AdamSmith = Chicken Little, the sky is falling….NOT!!!!!

According to the reasoning of the illegal employers posting here at this Reuters forum, America doesn’t have enough people. Not a high enough BIRTHRATE, these illegal employers decry.

Hmmm…

In that case, if we, the posters to this forum were to meet each other, and travel together to, say, INDIA (population 1.17 BILLION), we should see the kind of society America should aspire to, according to their logic. India breeds and breeds, and breeds more and more.

What then will these illegal employer posters at this Reuters forum say when, alighting from our plane, we are hit in the face with the smell of the seething, fast-breeding, corrupt, diseased, violent, crime-ridden scene that is an Indian city?

Will the illegal employers posting here salivate at all the impoverished people possibly to be hired to do tomato harvesting for pennies per hour? Or the vast supply of starving people willing to do roof replacement work for unbelievably low wages? Such profits to be had for these illegal employer posters here at Reuters!

Yes, they want America to be more like India, with its high birth rates and melting pot culture! Melting pot, what a wonderful sound to these preachers of immigration amnesty.

India’s history is a history of immigration from every direction. They have Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, every kind of religion in that land of immigrants. They have castes. They have billionaires and endless masses of poverty.

They have over 12 main languages in India.

Everybody speaking a different language, worshipping a different god, stealing from each other. Absolute poverty next to corrupt billionaires, that is India, the land of immigrants. Chaos, lawlessness, low wages, high disease rates, literally hundreds of millions of people in giant slums willing to work for any wage at all.

This is what our fellow posters, the illegal employers, at Reuters forum apparently think will be good for America. Let we Americans, too, they intone, increase our birth rates! Let us become more like the fast-breeding, cultures of India, Mexico, and Nigeria! Those fast-breeding countries should be the role-models for our children?

What utter nonsense.

America does not need an expanding population. Our schools are already over loaded. At a bloated 315 million people America has become the third most populous nation in the world, behind only China and India.

Immigration is destroying the American middle class.

Big Sis will decide when, where and whether or not to build any fencing, and then the “new” fence will languish just like the “old” fence. This is a cheap political parlor trick aided and abetted by media who fail to fully explain the conditions.

@adamSmith your India dribble is utter nonsense. The US has always been composed of natives and new arrivals since day 1. I am not sure where you live, but in most places in the US, we see people from all corners of the world, living together as one.

Adam, we have an aging population, just like Japan, we have more people retiring than entering the job market. Soon, we have only 3 workers for every one person on social security.

Schools over populated? The city I live in just closed 14 schools because of a falling school population, many other cities are facing the same problem, not enough students.

Washington is almost as big of a joke as this bill. You didn’t even consider border security while it was drafted. Now you are trying to act serious about security! BS!!! Stop harassing the officials trying to enforce the laws on the books already. Go after the illegal employers as well, which I would like to point out is also missing in your amnesty for non citizen criminals bill. More Washington hog wash at the working class expense! Massive protests will follow your horrible bill.

The problem with this bill is that it gives the impression that this amendment will stop illegal immigration. Not even close. It can be defunded by Congress, stopped by DHS and DOJ, doesn’t address the visa overstay issue (40% of illegal immigration), doesn’t address making e-Verify mandatory, and in general is so full of loopholes that nothing about it is truly certain. Schumer and Durbin couldn’t have written a more obscene bill. Keep hammering your Republican reps in the senate (202 224-3121) and demand that they vote against the final mass amnesty bill. It will triple immigration yet provide no genuine security for citizens. Only action counts now….call immediately and put the pressure on. This country will become an overcrowded, single party welfare state this bill becomes law…it must be stopped.

lets be honest. big business who owns the congress and the white house has no intention of shutting off the spigots that keep labor prices and therefore all other prices in check. it’s the only way we can compete in a global world where the average person makes in a month what most in america make in a day. it’s a delay tactic that instead of keeping us whole it slowly drags us down in parity with the rest of the world. for those that have an ear just look at western europe for where our future lies. high structural costs due to progressive policies = loss of competitiveness = high structural unemployment = civil unrest = nowhere to go but down. do you think the top 1% that own 90% of all america’s wealth really care about the 99%?

Far in excess of necessary documentation to further this along considering it only addresses 25% of the issue at best. Cut the pork, the inclusive give you this for your vote give away bonanzas, the bridges to nowhere as it were and just start for once acting upon the interest toward the betterment of our society. How can it be made any clearer that this is what you, the policy makers/law makers, were elected to do.

Fleming is typical of the tea party attitude…totally dismissive of any opinion or approach that does not reflect his own…

Calling the House bipartisan group an apparition shows his maturity…he doesn’t realize or pretends to not realize that the tea party shills are not in the majority as yet…and that they are being shunned by the mainline republicans who find their lack of cooperation a disease that has to be eradicated…

Fleming is typical of the tea party attitude…totally dismissive of any opinion or approach that does not reflect his own…

Calling the House bipartisan group an apparition shows his maturity…he doesn’t realize or pretends to not realize that the tea party shills are not in the majority as yet…and that they are being shunned by the mainline republicans who find their lack of cooperation a disease that has to be eradicated…

I will remember to thank the Grand Old (OLD) Party for being obtuse and argumentative, as well as one sided, prejudiced, sexist and racist. The entire legacy of our nation rests in your unwillingness to move forward in any direction, on any topic. We will remember you.

Although Mexican illegal immigrants make the news more, it is really the Asian immigrants that threaten America the most.

The populations of Asian cities are so massive that they dwarf American cities. China alone has 1.3 Billion people, 4 times as many people as the USA. India has 1.2 Billion people, almost 4 times as many as America.

The city of Shanghai, China is a good example. Shanghai has a fast-growing population, currently 23 million. Many millions of poor.

And in March, BusinessWeek reported that Shanghai alone has 370,000 dollar millionaires.

Thus we see the impoverished poor of Shanghai coming to the USA on H1B visas or tourist visas, and then simply staying.

And we see the 370,000 dollar millionaires of Shanghai coming to the USA to buy real estate and put their children in American high schools and college. When they graduate, they compete with American children for American jobs, driving down American wage rates.

On the west coast American cities, over half of houses selling over $800,000 are sold to foreigners, just like this.

America is simply being invaded by thousands every day flying into major American airports, and simply staying. It is what the Germans dreamed of doing in WWII, just start moving in, and taking over everything not bolted down.

Largest Countries ranked by population
1. China 1.3 billion people
2. India 1.2 billion
3. United States 315 million
4. Indonesia 237 million
5. Brazil 193 million
6. Pakistan 182 million
7. Nigeria 166 million
8. Bangladesh 152 million
9. Russia 143 million
10.Japan 127 million
11.Mexico 112 million
12.Phillipines 92 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population

Liars! Criminals! Those in the Senate who are pushing this crimmigration amnesty bill and their lapdog media who is complicit in the deception of the American people! On page 35, line 24 of the new bill, a provision was inserted that says Napolitano can decide against enforcement. They can add all the bills they want saying they will increase border agents etc. but as long as there is a provision saying the Tyrants in a particular agency can suddenly decide they are not needed at their own discretion we have an even worse off situation that we have today and it will be “what do we do about all the illegals here” and we need “comprehensive immigration reform” just like we have heard over and over the same lies 7 times of mass amnesty since 1986 only designed to create a permanent class of ignorant democrat voters who will be more than happy to vote away their constitutional rights in exchange for govnernment goodies. Immigration is killing our country, if it is so great why is our country not better off than it was 20-30 years ago? It was European immigration from the early 1900′s that made this country great not 3rd world immigration who is turning our communities in to garbage crime zones.

This is a smokescreen. Once the bill is passed Congress will do or NOT DO whatever it wants with the border security part. LIES, ALL LIES

If your reps supported this measure, they are trying to give cover to vote for the amnesty nightmare that will triple immigration yet provide no guaranteed security. Call them at 202 224-3121 and let them know that you will vote them out of office if they vote for the final Senate amnesty bill….be passionate. Several senators are already backing off of their support due to the outpouring of citizen rage….join in. We can stop this thing but we must call TOMORROW AM! Put this number in your cell and call often, call multiple Senators and pass it on. The final vote is any day now.

You can go to numbersusa to see how your Senator voted. Great website to take action…easy too.

This bill was written by Corporate America for Corporate America and there is absolutely no reason to believe that immigration laws will be enforced if it passes because Corporate America doesn’t want them to be enforced and Corporate America gets what it wants because Corporate America is running this country now. Go to movementtoamend.org and submit your signature for the proposed 28th amendment to the Constitution to get corporate money out of our political system before Corporate America turns the U.S. into a third world country.

Join “Numbers USA”. They are for enforcing our immigration laws, lowering work visas, anchor babies, mandatory use of e-verify, etc. They rate each politician on immigration issues and they have free faxes that you can send to the White House, your Senators and Representatives. It’s easy and free. Please join!!!
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Call, Call, Call this Thursday am! The Senate immigration vote is today. Focus on Republicans only and make your comments strong and passionate. 202 224-3121. We must flood the switchboards this am to stop this pending nightmare. Weak Republican support in this vote will help strengthen the House version that is more likely to represent citizen interests. Corker Hoeven guarentees virtually nothing except more mass immigration. Call now!

I live 2miles from the Mexican border and 1 can agree with some of you or disagree with some of you.either way it really does not matter.

Focus your opposition calls on Heller (NV), Alexander (TN), Corker (TN), Hatch (UT), Collins (ME), Ayotte (NH). These are the critical votes that must vote NO. Call now if you can. 202 224-3121. Only action matters now.

Focus your opposition calls on Heller (NV), Alexander (TN), Corker (TN), Hatch (UT), Collins (ME), Ayotte (NH). These are the critical votes that must vote NO. Call now if you can. 202 224-3121. Only action matters now.

Call Senator Kirk too (IL) and tell him to vote against the mass amnesty….if he will pick up is phone.