Gay marriage opponents ask Supreme Court to reimpose California ban

The Senate is wrong. The SCOTUS is wrong. The President is wrong. Is the sky falling? The must be a pattern here!

Why cant we just leave these people be? If they have a church that wants to marry them let them. They are not hurting anyone. If you think for one minute that them being gay is going to make your little Johnny boy gay I don’t even know what to say to people like you. Someone being gay will not effect you. Just as being straight doesn’t effect them. And to get to the root of my issue with all this BS we have separation of church and state in the USA do we not? Marriage is a religious institution correct? Then we should all have to have civil unions. Also because we open the door to gay marriage or straight marriage doesn’t mean that people will want to marry dogs or cat or worms or dolphins. Further if 3 people want to marry where is the harm? Also what goes on in consenting adults bedrooms, should stay between those people. Dont we have bigger issues to worry about?

lol “defending freedom” by trying to take the freedom away from others. good one.

Sour grapes, anyone? Don’t they get it: THEY have NO standing….so they have NO standing to appeal or ask for reconsideration or anything else. Period. Go away with your hatred. Go pray somewhere. Ask for peace and forgiveness for your hateful ways.

This is good! We voted for NO GAY MARRIAGE. The will of the voter is being denied because of the whining of the weak. I sincerely hope we get what we voted for. NO GAY MARRIAGE! Y’all can move to another state, be just fine with me.

what is next with these folks,,,,do we have to guess which one is female and bow at the waist,open doors for them,and will they file a complaint if we don’t….Wait ten years and add up the murders due to the ”’drama”’ that will ensue in this so called marriage they are wanting….it is not natural but they will harm themselves…so be it………….

People! Whatever happened to “Mind your own business!” ? How can the marriage of two other people possibly have any impact on your life? Butt out and get on with your life and stop trying to tell other people how to live their lives.

DocMike74

Never in a million years would I think that the issue of ‘who can, and cannot, love each other’ would be challenged. Really, people? Really?

Never in a million years would I think that the issue of ‘who can, and cannot, love each other’ would be challenged. Really, people? Really?

Never in a million years would I think that the issue of ‘who can, and cannot, love each other’ would be challenged. Really, people? Really?

arttie – Y’all can move to another state? You can move to Russia, with the other haters. The majority of Californians support gay marriage now, I’m happy to report. You are now the minority. What shall we call you – the haters group! Enjoy your new minority status.

I see, so state law only counts when it agrees with progressive ideology, otherwise progressive federal law overrules it. Great day for democracy.

God, Guns, Gays and Giggles

When you put your foot in your mouth, you do not have a leg to stand on.
When you shoot yourself in the foot, I would stay away.
But when you put both feet in your mouth and say you will shoot yourself in the foot, I will back away quickly and let you proceed.

Prop 8 side did not have standing and they now want a “reconsideration?”

What new “theory” have they come up with now? The above gun injury, because of same-sex marriage?

Were they trying to force a “shotgun” wedding for a gay couple because one got pregnant and wanted an abortion?

Oh, pray tell, what new “theory” this time? (hint: fund raising event)

To arttie: You must be unfamiliar with the U.S. Constitution, with the court case at hand, and indeed with the way our government works. The will of the voters cannot be used to override the rights of the people as granted by the Constitution. Were there to be referendum, say, demanding that women be denied the right to vote, even if that were to be the will of the people based on the votes cast by a non-majority of California voters, that demand would not pass muster.

Whining of the weak, indeed. I am sorry that your lifelong dream of denying happiness to others has failed. In any case, what a terrible ideal to have. I cannot understand why so many people’s passion is to have rights denied to others–the blackness of heart that brings someone to care so much that they would actively petition to make others legally inferior. I am grateful that our Constitution was built to grant people freedoms, and not to deny them.

No wonder they all ran out 5 minutes later and got hitched…they must have felt this was coming!

@TexanForever: No, YOU are wrong.

Seriously, what bloody business is if of yours if people get to marry the person they love? How would you like it if you were told that your love for your husband or wife was wrong and that other people had the power to deny you the right to marry that person? You supporters of Prop 8 are sick, sick, SICK!!

@Arttie; The Tyranny of the Majority has no business deciding the Rights of the Minority. That kind of mentality lead to the Holocaust.

So if I don’t agree with gay marriage that makes me a homophobe? Am I no longer entitled to my opinion? So now my rights have to be infringed upon to satisfy a bunch of….? I really don’t need to know about their personal lives, what the heck is the difference if they are married or not they already have been “doing it” and living together before. These seem to be a bunch of people who just need too much attention. I don’t go around telling everyone that I am married to a man and I am heterosexual, so big friggin deal, you a dude and you like dude’s to each his own, why do you need to be in the lime light? It bothers quite a many of people but you are forcing your belief’s on others! I don’t believe in homosexuality but you are throwing it my face daily! What the heck?

You dont get to vote on whether other people have rights.

This whiny, childish behavior is why “Christian” is becoming synonymous with hate in the United States.

Get over it gay people getting married will only affect those doing it.

What don’t they understand???? YOU HAVE NO STANDING!!!!!

Ignorance on their part is good for us!

Thank you, Mormon Church, for spending millions of dollars on this instead of actually trying to maybe help people with that money.

U.S. Supreme Court waiting periods are not binding on lower federal court actions. This petition is DOA.

Homophobes need to go back into their little caves and disappear. It’s the 21st century. Get over it.

This isnt even about who they marry anymore, marriage is a privilege not a right, marriage is between one man and one woman. dont try to access the tax dollars from people that dont believe in gay marriage. how about that for equality?

The people hurt the most by gay marriage, are the gay people themselves. I don’t think they get that. If the state says someone can marry someone or whomever or whatever they love that doesn’t make it right. It didn’t make slavery right (personal property). It didn’t make abortion right to take someone else’s life. This too will pass. Christ said whoever wants to get to Heaven will have to deny themselves and follow him, not to embrace their weakness. He didn’t say to the woman caught in adultery, go and sin some more. I condemn nobody as that is not my place but worry for their immortal souls. If you don’t deny yourself….you embrace your weakness and separate yourself from God.

Why can’t the haters take “no” for an answer. A majority of Americans and the Supreme Court are telling them to jump in the lake.

America is in distress

“what is next with these folks,do we have to guess which one is female and bow at the waist,open doors for them,and will they file a complaint if we don’t….”

Really? Could you pack more ignorant comments about gay people into a single sentence? “Guess which one is female”? What the heck reality do you live in?

“Wait ten years and add up the murders due to the ”’drama”’ that will ensue in this so called marriage they are wanting….”

Really? Rampant murders due to gay drama? You have to be the most illogically paranoid person I’ve met on the internet. And come on, this is the internet we’re talking.

“it is not natural but they will harm themselves…so be it………….”

I recommend “Biological Exuberance” by Bruce Bagemihl. In it he goes into great detail about the hundreds of species for which we have documented and studied homosexual behavior. You can argue all you want from your religious books, but nature has no issue with homosexuality.

So….if ruled that you have no standing whatsoever in the case, you go back and ask SCOTUS for more…

This is funny. Somehow, I think the world would be coming to and end. The apocalypse would be here now, the earth would be shaking, and fire would be pouring down from the heavens; and yet, here in California, we have a beautiful sunny day, on the hot side. People are going about their daily tasks, in an eerily normal way. Gay people are getting married, and contrary to the doomsday warnings of religious fanatics, and homophobes, life goes on, and, again, it’s such a beautiful day. No end of the world, no day of judgment, just happiness all around, for people who have waited for so long. Yes, it’s a good day!

“The Arizona-based group Alliance Defending Freedom,” is calling for the ban. Talk about a party with no standing. Utah was the source of the money that funded Prop 8, the official religion of Utah messing with the matters of another state. Polling after the Prop 8 vote found that the wording of the title was so confusing people thought they were voting to allow same sex marriage; fraud all the way around. Now the Mormons lie through their teeth, saying they are in favor of same sex marriage, maybe that is because someone wants to marry a dozen under aged boys, hide them in the hills of Utah, Mexico and Canada. This is all shameless.

The bible and the torah should be banned!

Here are several really loving excerpts from the Torah; the first five books of the Old Testament in the bible — perhaps read to the congregation on Friday night at a synagogue or a Sunday morning church in the meadow.

1. Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
2. Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
3. Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.

Rabbinical / Priestly rules: Leviticus 21:17-18 … “No one who is blind or lame or has a defect or any blemish may approach to offer the bread of his God.” Leviticus 18:22 … “You are not to go to bed with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”

The pope and churches fully aware that Leviticus 18:22 applies to rabbis and priests … refuse to remove this stigma maliciously persecuting gays. Kids are being bullied into suicide …!

Being black, left-handed or being gay is just as natural. It is a sometimes rare occurrence to fall in Love and to hold that person in your heart and be loved in return … it is something that should be celebrated! If it’s between two guys or two girls — all the better. It takes even more courage to defend that LOVE!

Same-sex marriage is here.
Face it.
Those who want to stop it are wasting their time.
Equality and freedom in this country is for all Americans regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual preference, age and on and on.
America is based on freedom and equality.
To deny people the same marriage rights that others have is wrong.
Our history is full of wrongs that have been righted.
With each step, we have become a better nation.
This is one such step.
Those who oppose same-sex marriage had better step aside or get run over.
The train of progress is coming and it is full of steam.

George Vreeland Hill

You have to forgive them, really. Their ‘it’s not natural, God disapproves’ thing is all that keeps them from acting on their own urges. What they’re really saying is, ‘I want it so bad, but it’s wrong, but I want it so bad, but it’s wrong.

So let’s see… the SCOTUS, the supreme interpreter of laws in the US, has ruled that proposition 8 is unconstitutional. It has ruled that equality shall continue to be a basic, unequivocal value of this nation. And yet we have so may people that will deny this value – surely people who have never had to face this denial personally. Your religion teaches otherwise? OK. You can blindly follow that, it’s your personal right. If you personally choose not to marry someone of the same sex, that’s your choice. That’s another basic value. But don’t trample on others’ values just becasue they disagree with yours. And PLEASE, do not quote the bible, that is NOT a valid argument.

Is it wrong to have to have 3 wives or 3 Husbands? The Supreme Court has basically said that the people should not have any morales that involve the bill of rights. You now can Marry anything you want and how many you want. The Supreme Court should not use the Bible no more. There are to many Atheists in the Government that are Hypocrites.

Boo Hoo reminds me of Brian Brown, the head of NOM, who when NY passed marriage he actually waS seen crying like a baby.

Poor little bad boy can no longer take away other peoples rights, he’s like a really bad bully.

AS for this filing , all they are doing is trying to ramp up the hatred of this minority by getting another rejection from the court, which prob wont even hear the case.

Also there are words for people who are too interested in other peoples bedroom business.

Bigots, Peeping tome and Perverts

BTW with Gr. Britain on the verge of marriage equality, Kevin Rudd once again as the prime minister in Australia who NOW supports marriage equality it wont be long before the whole english speaking world fixes this discrimination against another part of Gods creation

BTW Brian Brown is an evangelical. The same type of people who when known as the southern baptsts, supported slavery as per the bible and made America the second to last nation in the western world to end slavery and the only one to need a war to do so.

BTW Brown recently claimed he got a PHD from some west coast University which it turned out didnt exist.

Some years ago he also claimed he was a graduate of Oxford. of course its BS

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/03/01/nom-leader-to-get-honorary-degree-from-non-existent-university/

Pathological liar is probably also as “queer as a $3 bill”. Take a look at his pix

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_peavHNGIRgmdRQidylXJM9PA4lFro6YwGRCVKHYt-mpCPhgwJQ

TexanForever wrote:

The Senate is wrong. The SCOTUS is wrong. The President is wrong. Is the sky falling? The must be a pattern here!
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Just the other day I heard an evangelical pastor saying that America deserved 9-11 because we had moved away from God

What a fxxxed up God they have. I thought God was about love, not mass murder

Alliance Defending Freedom? There’s some Orwellian doublespeak if I ever heard it.

I can tell you from a near death experience, i was living a sexually immoral life and one day had a wreck in my car broke my neck c4 c5 c6 and when i died i left my body went straight to haven then to hell and when i ended up in hell i asked Jesus to save me then he took me out of the fire placed me back in my body and told me i must choose. From that day on i repented of the sexually immoral lifestyle..And live for him Hell is real people and If u die living this way it will send you there. The choice is yours.

“3 wives or 3 husbands?” Maybe, some day, society will evolve to that point. In spite of what has been preached by the Evangelicals, marriage has always been redefined through the ages according to the cultural norms in that society. God’s favorites, Abraham, Jacob, Moses,Gideon and King David all had multiple wives and King Solomon had hundreds of wives and 300 concubines.”Traditional marriage” once involved the purchase of 12 y/o virgins as a wife, regardless of no consent. Wives were once required to “obey” their husbands. Wives were once thought incapable of voting or owning property. All these indicia of marriage have been redefined by Western Society and genderless marriage is, very simply, yet another in a long line of evolution.

I don’t know where these anti-gay zealots get off telling others how to live their lives. They continually voice their opposition on religious grounds insisting that, “…it says in the Bible…” How arrogant to suppose that they in their hate-filled self-righteousness are on this planet to act as judges in God’s name. Isn’t there something in that same Bible which says, “Judge not that ye be not judged”? If the Bible says the homosexuality is and “abomination” that’s between the gays and lesbians and God, and does not involve anyone else, most of whom are sinners of the worst sort themselves. What is it going to take for these misguided evangelists to understand that this issue is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS? Period. Take your complaints to God and leave the rest of us to live our own lives. By the way, I am as heterosexual as they come but this issue has nothing to do with sexuality and everything to do with the pursuit of happiness. The writing is on the wall, gay marriage is here to stay like it or not.

Why are goobers from Arizona interfering with the lives of people from California?I think they have enough of their own problems with renegade law men and hateful spiteful Governors

Religion isn’t something one can force on another. Religion isn’t something God can force on anyone. So please, religionists, stop trying to do what God himself has refrained from doing.

DSTIEBS, please explain how legally permitting one human being to marry one other human being regardless of gender means “you can now marry anything you want and how many you want”.

Legalizing same-sex marriage simply means that, in the context of two consenting adults, you can now marry anyONE you want. What’s the big deal?

The far right sure know how to beat a dead horse. They just can’t face the reality that they lost. They had a fit when Obama won twice and appointed justices that are changing our country. They lost it over Obamacare which is saving lives. And boy it’s going to be funny when Hillary wins next. Their heads are going to pop off!

@sgreco1970, I get your point, but gun owners are the wrong target (no pun intended). The blame deserves to be dumped on the laps of the Christian weasels who run Catholic Inc., Mormon Corporation, and Evangelical et al. Let’s get them!

Hatred like that is pathological. My vote is for electroshock therapy, if not lobotomy. Oh, and Arttie, how about everyone votes on the validity of your marriage? What a bigot.

now the govt. will allow whom to marry whom to not, this is the backlog of years, it was artificial.

The people voted to change the constitution. The elected leader of the state decided to ignore the will of the majority. There’s a word for that: fascism. This is a failure of democracy and will tear our system apart.

Why would you do this? Can someone give me a good reason?

Hmmm, I wonder what is next – Lawsuits against the school district to include same-sex marriage language in all references to marriage OR maybe lawsuits against the local baseball team for not including same-sex couples on the ‘kiss cam’ OR ads to make same-sex couples feel comfortable kissing in public just like other married couples OR equal opportunity signs have to be displayed in the honeymoon suite at the resort. The ultimate aim is to change the norms and values of our society so that LGBT people can feel comfortable about their sexual choices.

Why should anybody care that same-sex couples want to get married? Holy crap. Leave these people alone already.

can someone please show me where in the constitution or amendments that marriage is defined as a constitutional right?

also, for those of you talking about a ruling, the supreme court made no rulings about gay marriage in the prop 8 case.

Why would Arizona think they can tell California how to live? Shall we ask them if they need our water?

Our motto “In God We Trust” – do you think God would approve in same sex marriages?

21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. 23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
28 Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. 29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. 30 They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. 31 They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. 32 They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

just a reminder… God knew this would happen and predicted it thousands of years ago – He has a plan of salvation for anyone who would like to have a relationship with Him – but He’s not pushy – however, He does love you very very much that infact He died in your place.

Why is it that all those who don’t have a problem with same sex marriage bash the church and or Christians? It’s OK to slam anyone that is against same sex marriage but it’s not OK for someone to have an opposing view? Do you hear Christians or believers dispensing the hate and judgment and calling gays and lesbian supporters names or worse? The issue here is God Himself that supporters have a problem with. Let’s be honest and point to the real source of the hate that is at the center of the same sex debate. Supporters do not agree with the Bible or God and have chosen to follow the scriptures of their choosing and leave the rest alone. Everyone wants to talk about the “Love” of God but not the consequences of their behavior. How else do you explain churches full of people that live a lifestyle in direct conflict with the law of the very God they claim to believe in? How do they explain away the scriptures that deal with the same sex issue directly?

This is a break down of society and it’s much more than live and let live or personal freedoms. This does affect everyone and what adults do in society is either an asset or a liability to the entire world. It is impossible to reach anyone with the truth when same sex marriage supporters don’t believe God’s Word is the law of the land. The minority group of gays, lesbians and supporters seems to have the majority of the media sources giving the illusion of being the majority mindset in society as a whole.

Pretty simple: the 9th Circuit issued the stay, so they can remove it whenever they want. The reason it was put in place in the first place was that there was a reasonable chance of their decision being overturned, and if marriages were allowed to proceed in the meantime, that would have made an awful mess. There is no longer any such reasonable chance. That the court will even accept the request for a rehearing is unlikely, and that they would reverse themselves at it virtually unheard of… and even if they did, that would still leave the court to rule on the merits, which the proponents showed at trial their side didn’t have.

So why should they have left it in place, much less be forced to?

THANK YOU ImJustSaying00 – Finally a voice of logic and reason!!!

Who cares?

Go smoke something if you are whiners!!! Let people live freely however they want. I understand whiners have no job but come-on you guys are useless!!!

Why hath god abandoned us bemoans the Persecuted American Christian? The trembling children of god, utterly obsessed with the after-life, and the bringing about of Armageddon. How has thy gospel led you to be so entrenched in worldly concerns? “Repent! Repent!” They advertise, broadcast and proselytize. Standing upon soap-boxes, screaming and shouting, “The End is Neigh! Repent you sinners! For you shall be judged, unfavorably, upon the Steps of the Pearly Gates.” But yet, like a school of piranha, you rally together to nibble at the inferred errancy of mankind. Why concern yourselves with the follies of men, whilst your kingdom, to which you shall escaped this hell on earth, awaits your inevitable arrival. Or is it that meddling is the last vestige of godly virtue? Modernity shall cast out the false prophets of love, ceasing your gospel of hate and bigotry. America will elevate above and beyond your antiquated doctrine of self worship and you will be left wondering, “How is it we did not know what we do?”

Quoting Chickenlips: “Why is it that all those who don’t have a problem with same sex marriage bash the church and or Christians?”—your premise is false. It’s not only not all; it’s a small segment of those who are for gay marriage who bash Christians. Particularly if you mean bashing Christians in general rather than the portion of them that works so hard to denigrate gay people.

As I usually find myself pointing out against the people your complaint would rightly be aimed at, many gay supporters *are* Christians. Many even are supporters because of what their faith teaches them about how to treat others. In fact, even among people who are actually gay, in this country the majority are Christians. (If it’s a smaller majority than in the population as a whole, you have only your own kind to blame for pushing gay people out. That so many refuse to leave, if anything, shows strength of faith.)

Quoting Chickenlips: “Why is it that all those who don’t have a problem with same sex marriage bash the church and or Christians?”—your premise is false. It’s not only not all; it’s a small segment of those who are for gay marriage who bash Christians. Particularly if you mean bashing Christians in general rather than the portion of them that works so hard to denigrate gay people.

As I usually find myself pointing out against the people your complaint would rightly be aimed at, many gay supporters *are* Christians. Many even are supporters because of what their faith teaches them about how to treat others. In fact, even among people who are actually gay, in this country the majority are Christians. (If it’s a smaller majority than in the population as a whole, you have only your own kind to blame for pushing gay people out. That so many refuse to leave, if anything, shows strength of faith.)

Chickenlips, next time you have God on your hotline, please conference me in. Somehow I don’t seem to be on His calling list and since apparently He talks to you I’d like to ask Him a few questions. If it’s not too much trouble.

The prop 8 proponents are so angry, so filled with hatred and bigotry, that even now they still don’t get it. The truth is, it was the bigotry of the prop 8 proponents that turned the tide of public opinion firmly in favor of marriage equality. Lots of folks who were sitting on the fence, myself included, looked at the out of state money that the Mormon church and Catholic Church poured into California to stigmatize and humiliate LGBT Americans. We concluded, overwhelmingly, that no moral person could tolerate the arrogance and blind hatred of these so called people of god who need to stick there noses into our great state. I wish these folks would go back to wherever they came from and get the h*** out of California.

Conservatives who claim to believe in “less government” support more government in the bedroom and doctor’s office.

Conservatives who claim to believe in “the Constitution” are suddenly shocked that the Constitution gives the Supreme Court final authority to rule on this.

Conservatives who claim to believe in “fiscal responsibility” vote for obviously unConstitutional laws that take millions of dollars to defend.

It is little wonder that the Republican party has trouble attracting votes nationally and in state wide elections.

Maybe these folks should stop and read the ruling: THEY HAVE NO STANDING – that means the Supreme Court will neither hear not consider their arguments on this case anymore.

The reason why there are still so many people for prop 8 is fear of anyone outside their comfort zone and whom they have problems relating to.
Because everyone who isn’t in my family/work/school/town ect. is an enemy. Interaction with other cultures is uncomfortable and makes me question my own values, so it has to be evil.
This like most human rights issues is a no-brainer, if it’s not hurting anyone what’s the problem?
I love the hypocrisy of my peers, the I know what’s best for you so shut up and do as I say. Don’t forget to thank me afterwards for the privilege of me taking the time out of my busy life to correct your misguided actions.
Oh right I almost forgot the real reason why so many people hate homosexuals, cause they read in some book that they’re supposed to.
Please learn to think for yourself fellow americans and let them have their marriage, there is nothing wrong or evil about an institution based on love.

The GOP insists on more narrowing of the constitution to fit the religious leanings THEY have. It was intended that all citizens should enjoy these freedoms, recognizing that people have differing values for life, liberty and the persuit of happiness. These things are not generously doled out in conservative states. While you may agree with their line of values, you should be afraid the GOP will find you in their sites one day for something about who YOU are or what YOU believe, who YOU love, where YOU worship (or don’t), and how many guns you own, which is the only thing they think the constitution was written to assure for time eternal. The only killing they agree with is execution and gun fights where you are the “defender”.

What happened to that historic speech by Lincoln that we so proudly quote: All men are created equal? And what about the laws that forbid us from discriminated against on the basis of race, creed, sex, religion, national origin–or even sexual orientation? Pretty clear. Shut up and put up. Sorry, I am not gay, but some things are left to the individual to make the choice.

@skaharris – you said “I don’t believe in homosexuality but you are throwing it my face daily!”

theres nothing to “believe in”. This is life, these are fellow human beings who love eachother – its not the Easter Bunny or UFOs.
Saying you dont “believe in homosexuality” is like saying you dont believe in the sun or dont believe in gravity.
Gays are not some exotic mythical creature, like the Chupacabra, that you can choose to believe in or choose to not believe in.
as for the spotlight? Gays are “throwing it in your face daily” because you (and people like you) are DENYING them a basic human right!
so yeah, they might be “in your face” for awhile and straight, married men like myself will be there to have their backs until ALL gays have the same rights as ALL heteros.

I’ve tried to understand the Conservative side of this issue, but I just don’t get it.

If gays want to marry, how does that hurt the rest of us straight folks? Allowing it doesn’t make us gay, and denying it doesn’t make them straight. All it accomplishes is to make them 2nd class citizens.

I don’t see how the law can deny those people their constitutional rights, based on their sexual preferences? And, I think the notion that homosexuality is somehow a learned behavior is totally asinine!

Justice Anthony Kennedy of the Supreme Court denied on Sunday a request from Proposition 8 supporters in California to halt the issuance of same-sex marriage licenses in the nation’s most populous state.

nuff said, its over for the religious nuts.

This gay-marriage thing has absolutely nothing to do with human rights, conservatives or democrats, etc but more to do with the unwritten norms and values of the human society. You can go anywhere in the world (whether you speak the language or not) and there are some unwritten fundamental guidelines on how to conduct yourself – these cut across both the most simple and the most sophisticated cultures. These have been around for centuries. Same-sex marriage has never and will never be one of the unwritten acceptable norms or values of the human society. The participants in this union will always feel deep down within themselves that this is not an acceptable norm or value of the human society. They will turn to every method to resolve a deep rooted internal problem with an external solution. No matter how many courts say ‘yes’ to gay-marriage, your guts will always say ‘no’ and therein lies the problem. This is only the beginning, there are much more laws to come in order to do the physically impossible – that is to change the way you feel about your sexual choices.

This gay-marriage thing has absolutely nothing to do with human rights, conservatives or democrats, etc but more to do with the unwritten norms and values of the human society. You can go anywhere in the world (whether you speak the language or not) and there are some unwritten fundamental guidelines on how to conduct yourself – these cut across both the most simple and the most sophisticated cultures. These have been around for centuries. Same-sex marriage has never and will never be one of the unwritten acceptable norms or values of the human society. The participants in this union will always feel deep down within themselves that this is not an acceptable norm or value of the human society. They will turn to every method to resolve a deep rooted internal problem with an external solution. No matter how many courts say ‘yes’ to gay-marriage, your guts will always say ‘no’ and therein lies the problem. This is only the beginning, there are much more laws to come in order to do the physically impossible – that is to change the way you feel about your sexual choices.

@JamVee

“I’ve tried to understand the Conservative side of this issue, but I just don’t get it.

If gays want to marry, how does that hurt the rest of us straight folks? Allowing it doesn’t make us gay, and denying it doesn’t make them straight. All it accomplishes is to make them 2nd class citizens.

I don’t see how the law can deny those people their constitutional rights, based on their sexual preferences? And, I think the notion that homosexuality is somehow a learned behavior is totally asinine!”

They have some twisted view of a marriage being sacred and a biblical institution. They really don’t have a response when you bring up the fact that those Sacred marriages was often between men and multiple women/girls. A 12 year old was marriage material back in those sacred times. And the wisest King of Israel had 600 wives and 800 prostitutes. Sacred indeed.

It doesn’t matter if you’re for or against gay marriage. I’m personally not in favor of any marriage… but I digress. The Supreme Courts ruling is still unconstitutional and that fact is being ignored by the liberal media. It’s pathetic watching Americans wipe their asses with the Constitution along with Obama.

@aImJustSaying00 – The problem with your argument is that it is historically and factually false. The early Christian Church did recognize and officiate same-sex weddings. We have the records. We still have the liturgy used. That most denominations currently do not does not mean it never happened. It did. And many other cultures have had many different concepts of marriage. One man and one woman in a lifelong bond is not and never has been a universal pattern, and cannot be held up as “the way it has always been done”. Please do your research before making such sweeping statements.

Shouldn’t the vote of the “people” mean something? What right does a judge have to take away this basic right?

I am getting the awful feeling that we are all getting closer and closer to communism. :(

It hurts the rest of us straight folks because it is validating perversion. Logically this means that all other perversion that is still in the closet should have the right to come out and be recognized also. See the problem with this????? Let’s all just enjoy the ride down the slippery slope into the incredibly stinky and immoral sewers. :(

Homosexuality should be criminalized. Homosexuals commit crimes against God, against nature, against the Holy Bible and against the human race.
After reading this I now know why God wrote:
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

@Rosie777

You live in a free country, not a theocracy. We don’t make laws to enforce your morals. If you don’t like that, you don’t like liberty, and you might as well go on insisting on us instituting a bible based theocracy, much like is done in the muslim nations. If you think it is sin don’t do it. You can teach others your views, but you do not get the option to enforce them on others. Why if I was a Muslim I guess I could enforce my views on you that you have to wear a birka, and a dress to your ankles, and you have to do esactly what I say or else I can take you out back, bury you up to your head in the sand for being a whore, and have you stoned to death.

I would rather ride down the slippery slope into the incredibly stinky and immoral sewers, than to ride down your slipper slope of a theocracy based system that denies liberty to all.

How about we go back to the will of the Voters. Let the mainstream voters decide what they think is right or wrong, its our society. If people don’t like the choice they have the option of pushing for another ballot initiative to reverse it.

The US Gov needs to stop deciding what IT thinks is right or wrong for people. Let them decide.