Supreme Court justice denies bid to stop California gay marriages

where is democracy in this fiasco Majority in California is totally against this abomination

Knock knock. What time is it? Time for the religious nut cases to go back to stories of armageddon. Manipulate your own children with your medieval concepts – Careful – don’t fall off the edge of the earth!

And the idiots spewing their hate right on cue. I wonder how many of these posters are republican?

You people don’t even realize that you’re parroting the same arguments that were used against inter-racial marriage. It’s pathetic.

Look out all of you hate-filled, venom-spewing bible thumpers!!!! The tooth fairy, santa claus, and the easter bunny are coming for you to teach you some decency. They come in costume so you’ll never know which one it will be.

Supreme Court justice denies bid to stop California gay marriages: Quit with the double negatives already!! You are giving me heart failure

“Supreme Court justice denies bid to stop California gay marriages.” Quit with the double negatives already- you are giving me heart failure!!

The framers of the Constitution understood that the majority should not be allowed to determine or define equal rights. We’re seeing it in action today.

“Acceptance of homosexuality as a type of “normal” behavior is a characteristic of all societies whose moral and ethical fiber is corrupted.”

This is a false premise. The ruling dictates what is “legal”. Big difference. There are many things which you may not think is “normal” but is perfectly legal, and people need to accept that.

Society is under greater threat from those who wish to force their “moral code” upon others rather than just on their own lives.

Oh no Chicken Little, the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

There sadly will always be those who harbor resentment and meanness toward equal rights for all. It happened with civil rights for racial minorities, it happened with women’s equal treatment under the law and it is happening now in response to equality for gays. Gay people are here, are not going away, pay taxes and contribute to society. It is the proper American thing to do to recognize this fact and to treat them fairly under the law. The Supreme Court has issued a ruling that will come to be viewed as a landmark in the ongoing move toward liberty, justice and equality for all.

There sadly will always be those who harbor resentment and meanness toward equal rights for all. It happened with civil rights for racial minorities, it happened with women’s equal treatment under the law and it is happening now in response to equality for gays. Gay people are here, are not going away, pay taxes and contribute to society. It is the proper American thing to do to recognize this fact and to treat them fairly under the law. The Supreme Court has issued a ruling that will come to be viewed as a landmark in the ongoing move toward liberty, justice and equality for all.

There sadly will always be those who harbor resentment and meanness toward equal rights for all. It happened with civil rights for racial minorities, it happened with women’s equal treatment under the law and it is happening now in response to equality for gays. Gay people are here, are not going away, pay taxes and contribute to society. It is the proper American thing to do to recognize this fact and to treat them fairly under the law. The Supreme Court has issued a ruling that will come to be viewed as a landmark in the ongoing move toward liberty, justice and equality for all.

This gay-marriage thing has absolutely nothing to do with human rights, conservatives or democrats, etc but more to do with the unwritten norms and values of the human society. You can go anywhere in the world (whether you speak the language or not) and there are some unwritten fundamental guidelines on how to conduct yourself – these cut across both the most simple and the most sophisticated cultures. These have been around for centuries. Same-sex marriage has never and will never be one of the unwritten acceptable norms or values of the human society. The participants in this union will always feel deep down within themselves that this is not an acceptable norm or value of the human society. They will turn to every method to resolve a deep rooted internal problem with an external solution. No matter how many courts say ‘yes’ to gay-marriage, your guts will always say ‘no’ and therein lies the problem. This is only the beginning, there are much more laws to come in order to do the physically impossible – that is to change the way you feel about your sexual choices.

Today we are all more equal.

Discriminate all you want in your heads, you can’t prevent gay couples from marrying in California.

This isn’t really a “battle” no side “won”, civil rights — equal rights have no place being voted on. Under any circumstances. Not in a country that prides itself on freedom, liberty, and equality.

Some people are now able to fulfill a lifelong dream. A dream of love, honor, and respect for each other. Is there too much of that in this country that we have to restrict it?

Love, honor, and respect. Who is for it and who is against it? Doesn’t that say all you need to know about them?

What part of ‘NO!’ didn’t the Prop 8 people understand?

The total number of US murders, rapes, thefts, and other crimes are at their lowest point in 45 years, having plummeted since their peak in 1992. The proportional crime rates are even lower because the US population has grown so much since the 1960s. US teenage births are at the lowest point since recordkeeping began in 1946. US divorce rates are down a bit and marriages are lasting longer.

But, while they ignore the plummeting crime rates and increasingly moral behavior of Americans, the bigots posting here America is falling apart because the courts said more people can get married and form stable households.

Weird. Some people are just out of touch with reality.

ImJustSaying00
you need to go do some basic research on the argument that you’re trying to make. You are obviously just talking out of your ass when you claim to know the history and social acceptance of homosexuality in cultures across the globe.

Bwahaha I love these feeble comments trying to denounce gay marriage. I know many wonderful, loving, long-term gay couples and will be honored to attend their weddings if they choose to become spouses. And guess what? Most of my friends feel the same way–whether gay or straight. The only people who hate the thought of gay marriage are emotional cripples who need to hate something besides themselves.

Listen to all the hate spewing religious bullies who think they have the right to tell others what to do. YOU don’t run this country and never will. People are tired of you and your agenda. Its time for equality you like it or not!

Keep at it, bigots!

Keep swimming against a swelling tide of public acceptance of gay Americans as equal members of our society. Your hateful stubbornness only accelerates your side’s downward spiral toward social irrelevance.

@alSheik: All you should have done was provide an example of a place anywhere in the world today where same-sex marriage is an unwritten norm or value. A place where this is a generally accepted value and has withstood the test of time. Please educate us.

The critics can deny reality all they want, but the majority of Americans now support same-sex marriage rights according to Gallup and countless other scientific surveys.

I don’t think it is an exaggeration to say that such critics will soon be a national embarrassment on the level of those who opposed interracial marriage. But to those on the losing side [politically, and morally], I have good news: Iran is really beautiful this time of year.

Love the picture! It’s like “gay love among the hillbillies”.

The truly queer thing is that. I’m not free when I have queer things around me against my choosing. Our service men and women are dying to protect a freedom that MOST Americans are unable to enjoy due to the queer things around. I’m almost ashamed that my grandson is in Afghanistan protecting queer rights and he hates that. Now, if you queer things would all kindly join Al Qaeda and go away to Afghanistan I’m sure he and I would be much more free. Shoo! Go away!

They had no standing: One foot in the mouth.
Denied reconsideration: Both feet in the mouth.

Go ahead, shoot yourself in the foot. No one will stop you.

This is better than a hearing on the merits would have been!
Walker’s findings and ruling settle the case!

Wow Artie maybe you and your grand son should fight for AlQueda since that’s exactly what they stand for. And there are many “queer ” servicemen and women go have given their lives for our country.
Democracy is NOT just the rule of the majority but the respect and protection of minorities.
I guess of a state decided to vote to take away women’s right to vote or not allow interracial marriages that woud be ok because the majority voted for it.
This country is moving on the right path thank God.

If homosexuality is considered outside your definition of normal, your definition is most likely incorrect. Normal isn’t a specific concept, it encompasses a wide range of naturally occurring phenomena. It’s nearly too large a scope of things to be defined. If homosexuality is ruining your experience of America, you’re probably not just cut out for this equality and freedom bit. You’re intolerance is your own obstacle to overcome, not the nations. Homosexuality is of concern to one group of the population, homosexuals. You should embrace changes to society, they come from experience and usually aren’t irrelevant ideas somebody dreamed up just overnight.

ImJustSaying00
I am not here to do your research for you

It is hard to understand how a history of intense repression and discrimination against gays is interpreted as proof that homosexuality is morally wrong.

The anti-gay writers on this thread remind of poor southern whites who back in the day could feel superior to “negroes,” even though they didn’t have a pot to piss in.

Oh John Manfred. really? History to suit your own narrow mind. You MUST be a christian, let me guess. In fact, the Roman Empire began to crumble after the conversion to christianity. Homosexuality was at it’s peak at the zenith of the empire. Chritianity caused the collapse. The Nazis were against homosexuality, even took to gassing them. Where did it get the Nazis? The Catholic church has perscuted homosexuals since its inception… and it’s one of the most vile organizations on the planet. You hold up Russia as an example? One of the most corrupt and repressive governments around. The strongest emerging markets right now are in South America; the majority of which allows same sex marriage or partnershipos. Got any more history examples for us?

Some here think that equality isn’t what this country is ultimately about. What happened to “We hold these truths to be self-evident…”? Few wanted blacks to have equality. For centuries, women weren’t allowed an education or a vote – a societal “norm”. Like it or not, equal rights is the basic principle upon which this country was founded. Slavery was a societal “norm” across the globe for centuries and the fight was fought hard to win slaves here in the U.S. their freedom. Many American soldiers lost their lives in that war, for the equal rights of the persecuted. THAT is what our service people fight for – not a heterosexual’s perception of “normal.”

Although I’m not “pro-Gay”, I can’t see how this damages traditional marriage as is implied by the Defense Of Marriage moniker. I also can’t understand how anyone would want The Government determine who you can or can’t have a legal relationship with. Much like interracial laws of yesteryear or sodomy laws invading one’s bedroom. The fact is you can’t help who your attracted to or that the law can make you gay or straight.
If anything, now the insurance companies will have to pay for gay partner’s health issues. Is THAT what this is REALLY all about? Gotta wonder. If a gay couple is ‘married’ down the street, it doesn’t affect the relationship I have with my girlfriend in any way, None of my business. But then, I take care of my own stuff and stop there.

No one cares about the books of bigots. In the near future you will be an extreme minority. :-)

Democracy does not mean taking away the rights of the minority, just because the majority voted for it. I am sure that there are still places in the South that would overwhemingly vote to return slavery.

The people who are arguing against this need a hobby, try some model airplane building, it’ll get your mind away from things that don’t concern you.

Did anyone else notice that I’m just saying is gay?

Not that there’s anything wrong with that – it’s the false struggle IJS is going through with an invisible skydaddy that does not exist is what is making this thread.

Prop 8, the Constitutional Whip?

To rule that a voting majority of 8 million plus people, who found it necessary to qualify marriage in the function of state licensing, has “no standing” on an issue the Fed Supreme Court is not even authorized to decide… that has go to be the most bizarre ruling of my lifetime

Absent the court for the redress of grievance, what else do the people have? Wasn’t this an Revolutionary era issue expressed in our Declaration of Independence?

Rome wasn’t built in a day and this not the end but the beginning.

Would not the loss of DOMA extend Federal benefits – for example, social security disability benefits – to all of the multiple wives and multiple children of the Muslim, of the Mormon, of the First Church Christian?

Poly marriage is nothing more than the union or combination of hetero and same-sex marriage and it is legal in over 50 countries in the world. For the Gay activist, steeped in America’s Christian perspective, to say, “Well we’re not about that,” is extremely narrow minded and highly prejudicial. This is anything but a perfect equality.

Why is this not presently an issue in the US? Because as a result of the Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act of 1862, over half the states have declared it a felony; virtually all of the remainder have labeled it a misdemeanor, and several states have even outlawed “cohabitation.”

But, Rome wasn’t built in a day.