Russia increasingly impatient over Snowden's airport stay

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joe10082 wrote:

The Russians should encourage one of its wealthy Russian oligarchs to fly Snowden on a private jet to Bolivia or Ecuador.They can then publicly wash there hands of the whole affair.They certainly they have the ability to do this in secret.

Jul 04, 2013 12:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Pat_Rich wrote:

You may be certain of one thing: The Obama administration has been busy behind the scenes issuing thinly-veiled threats to every country on the planet. Snowden at large is a continuing threat to Barry’s ever-diminishing reputation.

Jul 04, 2013 1:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
michijo wrote:

I find it strange that Snowden doesnt merely agree with Moscow’s terms merely to escape the USA. After all, he can break the rules they set down and work covertly, handing everything over to wikileaks. I fail to see his problem. He is in Russia, there he should apply.

Jul 04, 2013 1:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mixkeyduck wrote:

I’m thinking snowden is already gone or possibly in a russian torture room. We can always hope the russians have already tortured him to death.

Jul 04, 2013 1:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Velocette wrote:

BREAKING NEWS!

Snowden escapes in potato-powered Bolivian submarine.

REUTERS

Jul 04, 2013 1:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xxxxxxyyyzzz wrote:

If its really true someone thinks Snowden is going to fly
to Bolivia why don’t we let him?
a. Why needlessly humiliate a head of state as we did.
b. Would it not be easier to pick him up in Bolivia than in
Russia?

Based on all the Tom Clancy novels I have read you would think the
CIA would be delighted if they knew where he was going for sure. Wait for him at the airport. Don’t make the Bolivians admit you did it.

Who knows, Bolivia is a neighbor we might need them to not
utterly hate us one day.

Jul 04, 2013 1:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ChrisHerz wrote:

There are no grounds for improvement in US-Russia relations even without the Snowden affair. There are collisions in Syria, and the US are working on the ABM system, penetrating the Caucasus and former Soviet Central Asia. They make no secret of their intent to further weaken and divide the Russian state itself.
Putin and company have come to realize this and until there is some change in US policy, Russian will be reactive to the present negative situation.

Jul 04, 2013 1:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
VultureTX wrote:

@ joe10082 wrote:

“They certainly they have the ability to do this in secret.”

I’m pretty sure Snowden claimed otherwise.
Which is why the US is annoyed with him, not the domestic US surveilance announcement, we already knew that since the Patriot Act.

Jul 04, 2013 1:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dickn52 wrote:

He ain’t going no where without a passport. If an airline takes him as a passenger without a passport, then they are responsible for him on his arrival wherever he ends up. If he is turned away, then the airline has to return him to wherever he came from, which won’t want him either etc…blah blah. He is truly a person without a country right now, and I say good riddance. Of course as a US Citizen, he can always come back to the USA.

Jul 04, 2013 1:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

Venezuela has offered him asylum too, but he doesn’t wish to go there either. Yet the little hacker is behaving like a primadonna. Since he has nothing more to offer, he is of no further use to either friend or foe.

Jul 04, 2013 2:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
RussianTV wrote:

Will someone let Snowden aboard their yacht, so he can float around international waters until someone takes him in?

Jul 04, 2013 2:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Go4ItNow wrote:

Oliver Stone has a plane standing by to whisk Snowy out of Russia. But only if he signs an agreement to make a film with Ollie.

Jul 04, 2013 2:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DennisWebb wrote:

Snowden started out his little adventure painting himself as a patriot, hero, and martyr. Sitting in the Moscow airport for 12 days watching his options dwindle has brought him up against cold reality. I suspect he’s been getting a lot of bad advice from his egomaniacal counterpart Assange.

Jul 04, 2013 2:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Snowden is a liability. All the gains that were made by Congress toward attempting to get Obama’s run amok agencies to comply with the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is overshadowed by this Snowden affair with half the US labeling him as a whisleblower and the Obama 49 calling him a traitor. That is the new term I have for the 49% of liberal fascists that keep Obama in power. The Obama 49. If this happened while Bush was president Snowden would be living in posh circumstances getting paid big money to appear on MSNBC, ABC, PBS and CBS (The Obama-infochannels) as the world famous whistleblower.

Jul 04, 2013 2:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
LoveJoyOne wrote:

This would be excellent stuff for a Tom Hanks sequel.

If only it wasn’t for real.

Jul 04, 2013 3:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Mannix wrote:

Snowden should know France only harbors child rapists.

Jul 04, 2013 3:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ochun005 wrote:

@VultureTX

“Which is why the US is annoyed with him, not the domestic US surveilance announcement, we already knew that since the Patriot Act.”

Really? Snowden was called a traitor by top officials way before he leaked anything that didn’t relate to domestic surveillance (meaning the whole China hacking and spying on Europe revelations). The NSA all but accused Snowden of aiding the enemy with the domestic surveillance leak alone:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/18/usa-security-damage-idUSL2N0EU16220130618

I believe it is this leak, more than any other information that Snowden has leaked, that has pissed the government off. Many Americans were unaware of the surveillance, or at least its extent. Besides its one thing to have suspect that the government is working on the capability of tracking all domestic communications, it is quite another when you are given irrefutable proof that capability is here and that the government is making use of it.

What evidence do you have to support your thesis that the government is not “annoyed” about the domestic surveillance leak?

Jul 04, 2013 3:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JeffRambo wrote:

He’s in the terminal yet no one, NO ONE has taken a picture with ubiquitous cell phone cameras? This doesn’t ring right.

Jul 04, 2013 3:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JeffRambo wrote:

He’s in the terminal yet no one, NO ONE has taken a picture with ubiquitous cell phone cameras? This doesn’t ring right.

Jul 04, 2013 3:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JeffRambo wrote:

He’s in the terminal yet no one, NO ONE has taken a picture with ubiquitous cell phone cameras? This doesn’t ring right.

Jul 04, 2013 3:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
joebiglow wrote:

Dateline New York: In secret session last month, Congress approved extensive modifications that have now been completed on the Statue of Liberty. The torch has been extinguished and Lady Liberty (new name: Matilda) now holds a drone aloft in her right hand, and her eyes are now laser death rays. The welcoming inscription on her plaque has also been changed to neon and now reads: “Don’t even think about it. We’ve got you covered. Welcome to America, Mother Fuccccers!

Jul 04, 2013 3:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ComradeChe wrote:

Vladivostok to Bolivia is 10,000 miles. You would need in flight refueling, or a fuel stop. Very few civilian aircraft have the inflight refueling. Best idea: Fly to Vladivostok another seaport, board a Russian flagged cargo ship and sail to Ecuador or Venezuela. Helicopter Snoden off the ship. The USA Imperialists would not dare stop a Russian ship on the high seas. Even during the cold war, aircraft with world leaders were not detained.

Jul 04, 2013 3:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
WhyMeLord wrote:

The mars rover landing was filmed in Utah under Romney’s direction.
That’s the real news our government’s afraid will be leaked nest.
We haven’t done anything right is so long we’ve forgotten how.
What a pathetic bunch we’ve become since Truman was our president.
Haven’t won a war, economy’s shot, unemployment through the roof.
Neither party has had a good run except for maybe the Clinton years.
We made more money then by accident than we can do now on purpose.
Hillary vs. Jeb……….LOL

Jul 04, 2013 3:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
chekovmerlin wrote:

ABout 2000 years ago, around the beginning of the Common Era, a general for an Asian leader from the area north of the Sinkiang Desert fled from his leader whom he realized was going to lose the battle to a superior Chinese army. He showed up at the Chinese ruler’s palace and told the leader he had fled from the previous leader. In those days, when a leader lost in a war, all the guard was supposed to die with the leader. The Chinese leader arrested the man and put him to death, saying “If you would turn on your old leader, you would turn on me. You are not loyal.” Sic semper Snowden.

Jul 04, 2013 3:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
chyron wrote:

2chekovmerlin
And what’s your story’s relation to Snowden?
That general of old was offering his service to his enemy, not rising a rebellion against his former master.

Or you’re saying : “belief that USA Constitution is above any other law in USA is treachery”?

Jul 04, 2013 4:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
FloxMolder wrote:

If the u.s. wants to back this guy into a corner then don’t be surprised when he dumps the entirety of what he claims to be holding. Which according to Snowden could do REAL damage to the nations security.

Jul 04, 2013 4:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SteveSavage wrote:

If I were in Snowden’s position, I would head for Iceland, not Cuba, Venezuela, nor Ecuador, as the memes insist – a change in government in one of those countries, which is always highly likely, could well mean extradition for Snowden. Leaving Russia by private jet, a political limbo paradigm, is out of the question. Only a Russian flight would provide the safety of keeping his pursuers at bay. Checking flight schedules,the first Aeroflot Russian flight, departing Sheremetyevo Airport, Moscow, 8 July 2013, arrives at Keflavik Airport, Reykjavik. Snowden safest bet would be to be on that flight beyond the reach of his pursuers veiled threats. Consider that Iceland is a republic, has a written constitution and a parliamentary form of government and is the world’s oldest parliamentary democracy. It has a track record of providing safe haven for political dissidents. Case in point, Iceland gave sanctuary, and later citizenship, to another American relegated to fugitive status, Bobby Fischer, after his passport was pulled and Japan was pressured to extradite him.

Steve Savage “King of the Beasts”

Jul 04, 2013 4:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
lockewasright wrote:

Whistle blowers expose illegal activities and then take the punishment for violating the law in doing so (see MLK). Snowden gave away national security info about LEGAL activities and then fled. He further put the lie to any idea that he was a patriotic whislte blower by giving additional secrets to 2 of our most powerful potential adversaries. His original charcterizations of the NSA activities have turned out to be flatly false as well. He is a traitor who should either never return or should be tried here at home. Because he, like Glenn Greenwald, has only a very tenuous grasp on reality; the option to find somewhere else to live is fading fast as he has painted himself into a corner.

Jul 04, 2013 4:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
chelydramat wrote:

What are the Russians worried about? John Kerry is as ineffective as Secretary of State as he was during his tour in Vietnam.

Jul 04, 2013 4:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ochun005 wrote:

cyron,

What chekovmerlin is saying, is that all countries, including the US, will not tolerate anyone who exposes government wrongdoing even when this wrongdoing is directly contrary to the principles they espouse, thus anyone who would expose government wrongdoing (Snowden) should take heed.

Jul 04, 2013 4:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
born2livefree wrote:

How legal is it for the US government to cancel a US citizen’s passport when that person travels abroad?

Jul 04, 2013 5:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
radikbonk wrote:

Give Ed a ticker tape parade in mid-town. By then he’ll have that Hanks “castaway” beard going and chicks (the political savvy, social media rad types would have a love-in…maybe mistake him as the new ‘Lindberg’)…Ecuador should fly over the Galopagos and parachute him home. Poland said no? Lucky him. Go Ed…to Venezuela. Who gives a flying crap the U.S. stripped his passport. Do we really have a government, anymore? We’re headed for the fiscal cliffs…and beware all you billionaires out there. The savages running loose in their dystopian nirvana might want to just occupy your Hampton mansions…when the zombies come out to play. Hooray snowballs!

Jul 04, 2013 5:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
radikbonk wrote:

Give Ed a ticker tape parade in mid-town. By then he’ll have that Hanks “castaway” beard going and chicks (the political savvy, social media rad types would have a love-in…maybe mistake him as the new ‘Lindberg’)…Ecuador should fly over the Galopagos and parachute him home. Poland said no? Lucky him. Go Ed…to Venezuela. Who gives a flying crap the U.S. stripped his passport. Do we really have a government, anymore? We’re headed for the fiscal cliffs…and beware all you billionaires out there. The savages running loose in their dystopian nirvana might want to just occupy your Hampton mansions…when the zombies come out to play. Hooray snowballs!

Jul 04, 2013 5:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

There’s only one place this guy can go..America. Unless he agrees to Puin’s terms. Any country on the planet if they were really interested in giving Snowden asylum could issue him a travel visa. Yet none have. What does that tell you? No one wants this debacle dumped on their doorstep. While he may share a small percentage of supporters in the U.S. He doesn’t have a single country on the planet supporting willing to lift a finger to help. Correa put him in this dilemma when he revoked the only travel document he had. Correa may have said some kind words about Snowden. But his actions tell his true colors on this issue. He isn’t welcome in Ecuador. Washington has to be pleased..he’s stranded in an airport in Russia and unable to do any more damage least he raise Putin’s ire. Check Mate grasshopper. Obama wins..you lose!

Jul 04, 2013 5:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Lies…….the media lies way too much. Russia wants him and so do many countries, the kid needs to decide who to trust is all. His information is very important to all countries.

Jul 04, 2013 5:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
crackerplease wrote:

Tom Hanks was once stranded in the airport. Even got a job and girlfriend.

Jul 04, 2013 5:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
orlandojon2 wrote:

If you believe Russia has not debriefed Snowden in return for refusing to extradite him you are being foolish. No way they would allow him to live at the airport for 11 days without copying his data

Jul 04, 2013 6:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Laster wrote:

On Independence Day, Thank you Edward Snowden! You managed to show our government’s true color and helped define what our liberties consist of.

You were correct, this amassing of power under the auspices of protection has no effective check and it comes to light when these matters come to the public light, you can see it in their actions and words.

You know, if they didn’t have anything to hide then why the worry ??

Jul 04, 2013 6:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
VonHell wrote:

this guy is turning out an idiot like Assange…
Assange knew Ecuador was the only place safe and yet stayed in UK… now is a prisioner inside an embassy…
Snowden realeased secret intel from a 5 star hotel room in Hong Kong… the guy must had the idea that south america would be the only place to go… now he is like Tom Hanks in “the terminal” movie…
The conclusion is either both guys cant live with the idea of leaving the conforts of a developed country behind… or both are hired actors in some sort of play staged by CIA…

Jul 04, 2013 7:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Burns0011 wrote:

Russia is absolutely delighted to know the details of US electronic surveillance.

They also have a strong disregard for privacy, freedom of speech, and protection of individual rights when it comes to ‘threats vs. the state’.

Russia is the LAST country on earth to give Snowden any kind of asylum.

Jul 04, 2013 7:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

You guys are too funny. Has anyone here played chess with a Russian before. we are all spending all of our time watching for him in the airport, and does he have asylum, etc. The dude is long gone. He is being debriefed off site, willingly or otherwise, and the Russians will give him a comfortable life as they want more people like him to feel welcome in the future.

The Americans do not know what he stole, and Putin does not want him to tell them. They will share with other countries for future favors.

My country screwed up on so many levels. Lying to us, not having proper counter espionage protocols, outsourcing everything to contractors, pissing everyone in the world off with naked power moves. etc.

Jul 04, 2013 8:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
FStephenMasek wrote:

If the Irish pub is still there, the stew was quite good, although it would get old after so many days.

Snowden should receive a metal, as he has exposed tremendous bumbling by the security agencies. I think many of us expected there were spying on everything and everyone. The surprise is that they run the operation so poorly that a workers such as Snowden was able to do what he did. How much are we paying the administrators of the various operations who allowed that to happen?

Jul 04, 2013 11:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
snowdenfan wrote:

I’m hoping this is all just a set up and Snowden is safe and sound in South America enjoying a royal treatment he deserves. One can dream!

Jul 04, 2013 12:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse
crittertron wrote:

If he is actually in Russia (yet to see a photograph) then the only thing that comes to mind as to why no one has taken him yet would be HAARP.

Jul 05, 2013 9:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Arry wrote:

As with most spy stuff, all the details will occur behind the scenes. Don’t expect much details aside from speculation from mainstream media.

Jul 05, 2013 9:43am EDT  --  Report as abuse
QuidProQuo wrote:

Hopefully by now the USA has revoked his citizenship and he will not be allowed back on US soil except to stand trial and go to prison for stealing company info, breaching security contracts and abusing his position of employment. Wherever he chooses to hang out and hide, the best thing that country’s government can do is ask him to leave as soon as possible. Whatever country chooses to take this jerk better be prepared to keep a very close watch on him. If he was willing to breach his contract here, i’m sure he will have no qualms about being a sleazy deceptive scum in his new host’s country too.

Jul 05, 2013 10:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse
johne37179 wrote:

Snowden’s case is terminal!

Jul 05, 2013 10:13am EDT  --  Report as abuse
sylvan wrote:

I suggest Vladimir put a parachute on him and drop him over Somalia. I doubt he could do much harm there.

Jul 05, 2013 10:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
elpaso wrote:

It goes without saying, that those who
support the traitor Snowden are also
traitors themselves. It is nice to
know who those people are. Have a nice
day now, ya hear.

Jul 05, 2013 11:15am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ofilha wrote:

I am sure Russia has great love for a leaker.

Jul 06, 2013 9:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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