Privacy fears grow as Obama weighs expanded gun-buyer database

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NEWAGER wrote:

Obama is very good at not enforcing laws he doesn’t agree with. HIPPA is a joke now anyway since Obamacare.

Jul 09, 2013 5:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Big2Tex wrote:

This only creates an even larger black market for guns and ammo while doing nothing to reduce gun violence. The impotent president is out to aggravate as many folks as possible so that he can justify an all out military police state to keep order. This is madness and for sure, no mental health patient will seek care if they think they will be on the “no buy list” for guns. Mental health patients need self protection maybe even more than the rest of us. the president is doing nothing about street gangs, major city meltdowns due to violence, or prohibiting drug and gang members from crossing the southern border. Oh, but those scary mental health patients should by all costs not be allowed to buy a gun and be on a government list that will eventually be published in the local news paper.

Jul 09, 2013 6:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

if Reuters is reporting that “obama weighs” something, that means it’s already been deployed.

Jul 09, 2013 8:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

if Reuters is reporting that “obama weighs” something, that means it’s already been deployed.

Jul 09, 2013 8:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Why would anyone trust this administration with private information like this? Or, with anything, really. They are proven liars are are more dangerous than those they pretend to be protecting us from. Here are the real facts. Prior to the 1970′s these kind of mass killing outrages were mostly unheard of despite the fact that gun ownership was just as widespread.

The killings are directly attributable to the change in the laws regarding the involuntary institutionalization of schizophrenic psychotics. Had these laws not been changed, men like Holmes, Loughner, and Lanza would be in institutions given 24 hour a day medical supervision and all their victims would still be alive.

Obama is just using the bodies of children to expand his tyranny. He couldn’t care less about the victims and sees them as nothing more than a convenience to expand his statist establishment.

Jul 09, 2013 9:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
LtScrounge wrote:

Where did you get that background checks aren’t performed at gun shows? That’s BS. Most guns sold at gun shows are sold by licensed dealers and they do perform background checks just as if they were in their stores. Yes, 40% of guns may be purchased at gun shows since the prices and selection tends to be better. I wouldn’t be afraid to estimate that over 90% of those guns are sold by dealers who do background checks. That means that the percentage of firearms sold without background checks are probably closer to 5%, at least those sold that aren’t black market weapons. Over a million NICS checks have been done MONTHLY for almost 5 years, does anyone truly believe that that represents only 60% of the guns sold? If so, the government’s estimates of guns owned are WAY too low.

Jul 09, 2013 9:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TeaBagYou wrote:

Kathleen Sebelius…

Stopped reading right there. It’s a backdoor plan to a national registry. That name should tell you these assurances and awareness of rights and health are total crap.

Jul 09, 2013 10:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Everyday, in every action this administration engages in, personal privacy is eroded. They are working 24/7/365 to turn America into the 4th reich. And a small clarification there is no gun show loop hole, you buy any type of firearm from a dealer, they run a background check, prior to the sale. And if they sold a firearm improperly and the ATF did an inventory (usually an unannounced inspection) and a firearm is not accounted for; good by license, and if that firearm was used in the commission of a crime, you become an accessory. Not worth it, period.

Jul 09, 2013 10:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
nixonfan wrote:

Speaking as a right-wing nut, I really don’t want the insane to have handguns. And that would include all Democrats.

Jul 09, 2013 10:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bretfox wrote:

Obama you are meddling again in state affairs. Please go play golf or basketball. Take a real long vacation. Just quit meddling in our lives.

Jul 09, 2013 11:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
CindyBP wrote:

Thank you to the people who voted for this megalomaniac.
How is that “hope and change” working out……
oh wait he never said that he did say “dopes in chains” and that is the only promise he has lived up to.

Jul 09, 2013 12:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CindyBP wrote:

Thank you to the people who voted for this megalomaniac.
How is that “hope and change” working out……
oh wait he never said that he did say “dopes in chains” and that is the only promise he has lived up to.

Jul 09, 2013 12:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
WavyChips wrote:

This is an excellent beginning for those who seek an end to the disease of gun violence. The idea of 250 million guns in private ownership in America is just too much tolerate in a civil society. Certainly the gun slingers of the Gun Culture will scream for their blood freedom to support their addiction to guns, while others spill their blood.

Jul 10, 2013 1:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
4mommy wrote:

Did the Sandy Hook lunatic pass some kind of flawed background check? Do statists have a mental challenge with basic cause and effect logic and problem-solving skills? (Or are they just tyrranical at heart?)

Jul 10, 2013 1:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
viper41 wrote:

There is never going to be any proposal put forth by the government that will address the issue at hand.
The government is incompetent, corrupt, untrustworthy and completely lacking in any kind of moral structure. The total lack of common sense and logical reasoning is criminal! When “special interest” groups pay government representatives more in bribe money than the American citizens do in wages and benefits, then we will never have accountability in government!

Jul 10, 2013 4:44am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gandaffy wrote:

Obama is desperate to restrict somebody, ANYBODY from being able to exercise their natural right to self protection.

Obama’s focus groups have concluded that people who have had treatment for emotional trauma are less capable of formulating a coherent argument to defend their gun rights than people in a strong emotional state.

Presstitute Reuters is doing it’s part to help spread this propaganda on behalf of Obama and world communism because armed citizens are the only resistance to their plans for global dictatorship.

Jul 10, 2013 4:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gandaffy wrote:

Obama is desperate to restrict somebody, ANYBODY from being able to exercise their natural right to self protection.

Obama’s focus groups have concluded that people who have had treatment for emotional trauma are less capable of formulating a coherent argument to defend their gun rights than people in a strong emotional state.

Presstitute Reuters is doing it’s part to help spread this propaganda on behalf of Obama and world communism because armed citizens are the only resistance to their plans for global dictatorship.

Jul 10, 2013 4:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
USAMark wrote:

You don’t really believe this is coming frim Obama do you? This guy doesn’t spend enough time in the office, what with all of his vacations, to drum up this many new ideas. These things are all coming from his handlers, they are then funneling them through him.
Obama couldn’t organize a “one car funeral”. He can’t say anything coherent that isn’t written for him on a screen in front of him.
No … there are some very worried people behind Obama that want our guns. They are afraid they’re going the way of the Czars of Russia should the public ever rise up. They want to keep us under thumb and defenseless just in case.

Jul 10, 2013 7:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
stringed wrote:

The reason obama is going after gun owners is to construct a database which will be used much as his other Orwellian database at the IRS: to have the names of all political opponents at his beck and call for the day when he declares martial law and rounds up all “enemies of the state’ for ‘re-education’ in the already established FEMA retention camps.

You think this is wingnut fantasy? Your knowledge of despot tactics is wanting. Obama is following the exact methodology of Mao, Castro, Honneger, Lenin and Stalin – the masters of political machinations designed to terrorize citizens of captive nations into submission.

This is classic pre-totalitarian action. We who refuse to open our eyes will soon regret our blindness.

Jul 10, 2013 7:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Wrathchilde wrote:

Once again, I see deliberately misleading reporting on the so-called “gun show loophole”. In this article, it is characterized that sales at gun shows are not submitted to NICS for a check. The only sales that would not be checked at a gun show are private sales. Vendors at the shows are mostly federally licensed gun dealers, and all of their sales MUST be submitted through NICS.

The erring passage is: “After Newtown, addressing gun violence became one of Obama’s top priorities, but Congress rejected his proposals to restrict certain types of guns and a measure that would have closed a loophole and required checks of the NICS database for more types of sales, such as those that take place at gun shows.”

Jul 10, 2013 7:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Gunluvr wrote:

Whatever. This just shows that anti-gunners have never been serious about keeping loonies away from guns. So we go through the motions again so that crazy people don’t feel “stigmatized, marginalized or have their feelings hurt”.

Jul 10, 2013 8:02am EDT  --  Report as abuse
interpcurves wrote:

oppression of a once FREE nation

Jul 10, 2013 8:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse
screentest wrote:

Yet another idea that does NOT address the issue of guns in the hands of bad guys…only penalizes law abiding citizens! When will American wake up to the fact that the destruction of the Constitutional Republic is WELL underway?

Jul 10, 2013 8:22am EDT  --  Report as abuse
lcky9 wrote:

Since doctors are so HAPPY to prescribe so called happy pills for ANY reason it will be up to the people to decide to refuse them or find themselves in a government data base.. fact is with Obama care the BEST course of action is avoid doctors all together, if you have to go LIE on all the forms.. claim you walk 3 miles a day, don’t smoke,drink or have sex and take NO medications.. screw them they can snoop we can lie..

Jul 10, 2013 8:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mccorb wrote:

I don’t like hardly anything this administration does. However, nearly all these mass shootings are done by young males that have been diagnosed with some sort of psychological disorder. I would support this idea so long as the people added to the list because of mental disorders would be removed from the list when they reached 35 and/or had been on the list for 10 years or some similar criteria.

Jul 10, 2013 8:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mec1 wrote:

40 percent and the Gun Show Loophole-bogus constructs pulled out of some anti-gun crusader’s rectum.
Dealers who set up at gunshows have to perform a NICs check just as if they were operating out of their own shop. Private citizens, in most areas, are free to swap guns among themselves whether they are at a gun show or anywhere else. It wouldn’t be surprising the 40 percent- meant by the crusaders to be an exageration is actually understates by a wide margin, the percentage of sales that are not subject to the NICs system.
The proposed up tic in mental health reporting does not (presently, at least) impact people who might receive “mental health” services but are not adjuticated incapacitated. Such adjudication is subject to a considerable amount of due process- much more so than a few decades ago. There are mechanisms in place that allow persons determed incapacitated due to mental factors to restore the presumption of competency if the disabling factor is resolved.
Here again, the number of people deemed incapacitated by probate courts vastly underestimates the actual number of crazy people running loose. The Obama executive order is just anoher feel-good non-solution.

Jul 10, 2013 8:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Kythas wrote:

“Even if states were to report all their mental health data to the database, as many as 40 percent of guns are bought at gun shows and venues where checking the NICS system is not required.”

Please do some actual research before posting things like this, as this is not true.

1. Background checks ARE required when purchasing guns at gun shows. EVERY dealer who sells a gun – no matter the venue or manner in which they sell it – is required to perform a NICS check and have the buyer fill out a Form 4473.

2. Forty percent of guns are NOT purchased at gun shows. This figure was from a poll of about 200 people taken in 1990, before the NICS check was even US law. It’s one poll taken over the phone from a ridiculously small sample size that’s 40 years old. Please stop citing it and get some newer data. Recent figures show less than 10% of guns are purchased at gun shows – and these must have NICS checks.

There is no gun show loophole. The only sales that don’t require checks are private sales between individuals where neither individual is a federally licensed firearms dealer.

Jul 10, 2013 8:32am EDT  --  Report as abuse
1rollingstone wrote:

Let’s start with the guns Obama let walk into the hands of Mexican drug lords. Show us a list of who has those guns.

Jul 10, 2013 8:40am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Br-andit wrote:

Time for a run on gun-stores part 2. The best gun salesman of all time is the gift to gun makers that keeps on giving.

Meanwhile in communist nation USA people are flowing across the border at will with backpacks, duffel bags and God only knows what else. Lip service to our safety and security.

Jul 10, 2013 8:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
AirFrank wrote:

I wish authors like this one would check the facts before making stupid statements. There is no gun show loophole. Guns sold at gunshows, no different than guns sold at gun stores, must be checked against the NCIS unless the buyer has a concealed carry permit. Please quit peddling that lie. Also, 40% of gun sales do not occur at gun shows. That too is a liberal lie being peddled.

Jul 10, 2013 8:50am EDT  --  Report as abuse
uncledirtnap wrote:

Most people seem to be missing the real problem with this story, which is that his plan is to AGAIN change a law passed by Congress and signed by a previous President with an executive order … which he has no authority to do.

It’s fairly clear now to anyone who’s paying attention and even trying to be objective (which certainly does NOT include anyone at Reuters) that Barack Obama aspires to be more than just President and is going to continue breaking laws, ignoring court orders and claiming authority the Constitution does not grant him to see how far he can impose his dictatorial aspirations on the country before the media and Congress can “grow a pair” and call him on it.

As Alan Keyes warned, Barack Obama is a radical Marxist … were are either going to stop him or the United States of America is going to cease to exist.

Jul 10, 2013 8:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
topsykrets wrote:

Hitler started gun registration in 1939 as a means to track who owned firearms for the safety of the people. You might want to ask some holocaust survivors if this is a good idea.

Jul 10, 2013 8:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ShunTyrants wrote:

What REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN (since these clowns are so interested in control), is that we need to run very thorough background checks on Obama and friends, psychological tests on those in Washington, term limits, low pay and make it illegal to profit from politics… and since that will all fail, people need to stop being complacent and rise up against tyranny. Soon enough, it will be too late to stop these thugs. It is already beyond our ability to vote to make any difference, the fix is in.

Jul 10, 2013 8:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
rakesbill wrote:

Stacey Joyce is outright lying. The gun show loophole is complete propaganda. Dealers at gun shows are federally licensed and must run background checks on every person who wants to buy a gun.

“as many as 40 percent of guns are bought at gun shows and venues where checking the NICS system is not required” This is a lie and a leftist scare tactic. Those statistics were collected over 20 years. In 2012 private gun sales amounted to less than 1 percent.

Have some dignity and report the TRUTH, not whatever will scare the people into supporting your agenda.

Jul 10, 2013 9:02am EDT  --  Report as abuse

Uh-huh, great, just what’s needed. Another FedGov database that Barry’s minions can use to abuse and illegally harass Americans with to deny us of more of our Rights. But see, here’s the Catch-22, now I’d be paranoid ’cause I don’t trust Fedzilla.

As it’ll reeeeeally be alright as the ‘intent is good and to keep us safe’. Therefore I shouldn’t have a gun as Barry has scolded us that ‘The Gubmint is GOOD’.

Or is it ‘The Gubmint is GOD’? I get confused with him.
[Well sorry, but don’t keep me so safe, okay Barry.

Jul 10, 2013 9:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
rjm2238 wrote:

The 40% percent figure for gun purchases at gun shows is a fabrication or more plainly put, it is a Liberal lie. The real figure is less than 3%. Facts that are central to your story should be researched before they are used. When you do not do that research it reveals a bias on your part and you are not allowed the luxury of a bias as you are supposed to be an objective reporter of the news.
Had you attended a university that did not itself have an agenda you would have learned this lesson there.
Rich in New Mexico.

Jul 10, 2013 9:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Wyldfyr wrote:

“..privacy of people…” what a joke. Geo. Orwell was right just a little late, 29 years late. “Big Brother is watching….the bigger the Gov’t gets the less freedom that we have.

Jul 10, 2013 9:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JohnSColeman wrote:

The only sale not requiring a back ground check at a gun show are private sales between two individuals that are not engaged in selling firearms as a business. This is also overstated since some states do not allow private sales like NJ and/or do not allow gun shows. The article also “misses” the abuse by the IRS not to mention other agencies including the BATF/EPA/NLRB/etc when it comes to “enemies” of the administration or some of its supporters like unions. Anyone who trusts this lying band of radical demagogues with more data and more “oversight” are idiots!

Jul 10, 2013 9:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
KingHootchie wrote:

Our first clue should have been the Chicago School of Dirty Politics from which we’ve just elected to a second term one, of it’s prodigies. One can only imagine the good-ole-boys network that has been instituted in Washington, D.C. consisting of some of the biggest crooks, liars, and thieves ever amassed in one small area at our nation’s capital. I don’t think there is any area of government (white house, congress, the courts) that hasn’t been corrupted. Toss in the media and you get the picture.

I realize this is about guns and they are as important today as they were in 1776 but we have a bigger problem, Houston. At the next State of the Union address we should be given the truth about how corrupt and dirty our government has become, rather than the Pravda version. If anything, we should be doing background and drug testing for all who work in government and those associated with them. It’s time to lift up the rock and see what’s crawling around.

Jul 10, 2013 9:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
act1 wrote:

Well, it would be too bad if some psychotic individuals with leanings toward guns might lose their privacy! Privacy? What privacy! From the time we are issued social security numbers our privacy days are ended.Your credit reports aren’t all that private either. Facebook isn’t private. Our open society defies privacy, helped along by databases in your local bank, your employer, your municipality, your state, etc. That it might deprive some people of gun ownership doesn’t alarm me. I’m sure the NRA would like to have newborn babes also carrying. Goo-goo, BANG.

Jul 10, 2013 9:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
act1 wrote:

Well, it would be too bad if some psychotic individuals with leanings toward guns might lose their privacy! Privacy? What privacy! From the time we are issued social security numbers our privacy days are ended.Your credit reports aren’t all that private either. Facebook isn’t private. Our open society defies privacy, helped along by databases in your local bank, your employer, your municipality, your state, etc. That it might deprive some people of gun ownership doesn’t alarm me. I’m sure the NRA would like to have newborn babes also carrying. Goo-goo, BANG.

Jul 10, 2013 9:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
rjm2238 wrote:

I see no reason why there should be any more restrictions on the purchasing of a gun that there should be on the casting of a vote. Both are very powerful tools which may need to be wielded in order to guarantee ones freedom.
An argument that the vote is the more powerful of the two could certainly be made and yet those who would virtually criminalize the purchase of a firearm are those same persons who want no restrictions what so ever placed on those who would vote.
I wonder why that is? Could it be that they want to eliminate gun ownership so that when they crookedly elect their candidates there is nothing the people can do about it?
That just may be something to think about.
Rich in New Mexico.

Jul 10, 2013 9:43am EDT  --  Report as abuse

I would never admit mental issues to anyone. It will be used agaionst me even when I need help. Obama will use anything to destroy anyone that disagree with him.

Obama is out to destroy any opposition – NEVER do anything that gives him a single bit of leverage.

Jul 10, 2013 9:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
michijo wrote:

its all about databasing.

Jul 10, 2013 9:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mikenkansas wrote:

Tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth.
Only those guns sold at gun shows by private sellers to private buyers aren’t covered by the instant background check system. All, ALL, guns sold at gun shows by dealers ARE subject to the background check and that’s the vast majority of gun show gun sales.

But continue on lying, it’s the right thing to do, it’s for the children.

Jul 10, 2013 10:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
islam101 wrote:

The Third Reich stripped individuals judged to be mentally ill of most/all rights. Many were sent to the death camps. Obama and his administration and pursing a ‘kinder, gentler’ variation of the same theme. Create the database, strip them of rights (the first of which is the right to bear arms).

Jul 10, 2013 10:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PugPug wrote:

I wouldn’t trust this thuggish administration with my shoe size! Only the fools and rubes still worship these crooks.

Jul 10, 2013 11:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse

Registration is the first necessary step before confiscation.
How much of the Constitution must be trampled before the sheeple stand up?

Jul 10, 2013 11:10am EDT  --  Report as abuse

States should refuse to submit ANY information to this privacy encroaching data base. It’s none of the federal government’s business.

Jul 10, 2013 11:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ChuckInMN wrote:

“Even if states were to report all their mental health data to the database, as many as 40 percent of guns are bought at gun shows and venues where checking the NICS system is not required.”

This false statistic has been rated 3 Pinocchios by the Washington Post – repeating it makes the whole story less credible. How about some fact checking?

Jul 10, 2013 11:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ofailure wrote:

Spying everywhere. Forcing even government workers to spy on each other. The NSA, DOJ and IRS debacles. obamacare. The lies about Benghazi. Governing through executive orders while ignoring his oath to faithfully enforce all laws and no just the ones he wants to. Only a blind, eager sycophant would not see that this creature considers himself above any law and a ruler, not a president. He must be removed quickly for the good of our republic.

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Mepika wrote:

Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed, Shall not be infringed.

Jul 10, 2013 12:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ArmingBears wrote:

Once again, an anti-gunner uses lies. There is no such thing as a gun show loophole. A private citizen can sell a gun to another private citizen without having to require a background check. There are some restrictions on handgun purchases, but only criminals ignore them, and they would ignore the background check anyway.

I question the 40 percent number. 40 percent of gun sales may happen at gun shows, but I would say, based on my observations, that 90 percent of those have a background check, so the author is lying thru his teeth or grossly uninformed.

Jul 10, 2013 12:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Left wing media still pushing the mantra of 40% of sales through private gun show sales (not even including the dealer check requirement at gun shows). Yet Dept. of Justice surveys consistently show that surveys of incarcerated felons (a somewhat reliable methodology as it correlates statistically correct with other questions/answers reported during the same surveys), shows that 2% or less of felons obtained their crime guns from a gun show.
Anything the left can do to disenfranchise law abiding citizens from their constitutional right is acceptable to the current administration the Pelosis of this country, the National Coalition to Ban Handguns, Handgun Ban/Control Inc., Mayors Against All Guns, etc.

Jul 10, 2013 12:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DGrimes wrote:

“…as many as 40 percent of guns are bought at guns shows…”

I am so tired of lazy reports not researching the topic they are reporting on. They just repeat the talking points they want to believe. This number was used recently in a senate hearing by Baltimore County Police Chief James Johnson. The 40 percent figure is a grossly exagerated number coming from a 1997 National Institute of Justice report. In January 2013 the Washington Post totally discredited the report’s findings in this story:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

1997 National Institute of Justice Report link:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

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SKYDRIFTER wrote:

Mentally ill people don’t need a permit to get their hands on guns to kill people. They don’t even need guns to kill others. A “mental” condition can be caused by street drugs – no diagnosis or court order required.

“Big Brother” needs to be watching those such as Obama!

Jul 10, 2013 1:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Cogs wrote:

The little Nazi Boy strikes again!

Jul 10, 2013 1:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Cogs wrote:

The “40% of guns bought at gun shows don’t require background checks” is a complete lie and has been discredited ages ago. But, what would one expect from a Left leaning biased media outlet like Reuters?

Jul 10, 2013 2:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jsmith5893 wrote:

Regarding the 40% or 80% of firearm sales that supposedly transpire without a background check. That figure is incessantly quoted by the anti-guns folks with out providing any source for the statistic. However, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence references that statistic in http://www.bradycenter.org/xshare/pdf/reports/no-check-no-gun-report.pdf footnote 124 on page 22 to a 1997 DOJ report – page 1 or Table 8) that interviewed criminals serving prison sentences to determine where they got their firearms. In that study 39.6% said they got their guns from private sales or transfers from “family and friends” which didn’t require a background check. This begs the question – what are the scruples of the family and friends of a criminal? I don’t know what new law you could pass to close a loophole that would force likely witting family members or criminal cohorts to run background checks on other criminals when all the parties involved will probably ignore any relevant laws. Note, in the same study, another 39.2% said they obtained their guns illegally while only 0.7% said they got their guns from gun shows.

Jul 10, 2013 2:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mc34 wrote:

I think people that are in the mental health data bases have nothing to worry about. The President isn’t going to take the information acquired and start reading it off on national television or call the employers of each individual. Its basically closing the gaps of making it harder for people to cross state lines and purchase guns that should not be allowed to. Mental illness is a broad scope of illnesses. Would you really want someone who is not mentally stable to be in the possession of a gun? I agree with this policy. Background checks in the past has been limited to criminal history. I personally feel that a permit to carry a gun or have one in your home should be obtained first before you can even think about purchasing a gun. Its like buying a car without a drivers license and with both things you can still use them until you are caught. You can buy a gun but not register it legally and still kill someone.

Jul 10, 2013 3:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dgss36a wrote:

Who’d a thunk?

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furrpiece wrote:

They key to reducing “gun violence” is reducing VIOLENCE. Guns don’t have emotions.

We’ve had guns for hundreds of years in this country, lots of guns. Yet, it is only since violent video games, movies, TV shows and gang problems that we’ve had runaway violence on a widespread basis.

Solve the violence problem and the guns will take care of themselves.

Jul 10, 2013 11:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
furrpiece wrote:

They key to reducing “gun violence” is reducing VIOLENCE. Guns don’t have emotions.

We’ve had guns for hundreds of years in this country, lots of guns. Yet, it is only since violent video games, movies, TV shows and gang problems that we’ve had runaway violence on a widespread basis.

Solve the violence problem and the guns will take care of themselves.

Jul 10, 2013 11:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
esully63 wrote:

Even if states were to report all their mental health data to the database, as many as 40 percent of guns are bought at gun shows and venues where checking the NICS system is not required.

Will some one please report accountably and stop with the completely fictitious statistics. Gun show sales are a small part of overall sales and the majority of thos sales are made by FFL dealers which run background checks. Internet sales, before you start on that, are made and shipped to FFL dealers for delivery to the end consumer after a NIC background check is performed. The only sales being made that do not run through the NICs are sales by private citizens.

Jul 11, 2013 7:46am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Flash1 wrote:

The 40% that the story speaks of is years old study that had been founded inaccurate by the person that did the study! The real number is around 10%. If you keep publishing this lie, I will be forced to quit reading this junk. Keep your articles accurate and respectable!
Research and drop the agenda!

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