Driver in custody after 80 killed in Spain train crash

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Wendy10001 wrote:

How very sad that the High Mass at the Cathedral was cancelled. I would think it would be even more appropriate, necessary and respectful to hold it in honor of all the victims and to give the community cohesion and focus. That is what churches ARE FOR, are they not? I am sure Saint James himself would want to be called upon to help his patron city.

Jul 24, 2013 10:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dd606 wrote:

That’s terrible. It doesn’t really look that bad from the video, but I guess that can be misleading.

Jul 25, 2013 1:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SuziS wrote:

How awful…those poor people.

Jul 25, 2013 2:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
NogginAbroad wrote:

We need a rail like that in SoCal. Badly.

Jul 25, 2013 9:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mizugori wrote:

Does anyone else think it’s a little strange how there have been 3 major train crashes inside of what, a week or two? We had the Canadian train disaster not long ago, then the one in Floria where Ethanol was spilled, and this one in Spain…???

Jul 25, 2013 9:10am EDT  --  Report as abuse
DennisWebb wrote:

It seems strange to me that the driver would be able to accelerate the train to twice the prescribed maximum speed at that curve. Are there no governors to prevent excessive speed?

Jul 25, 2013 9:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
John2244 wrote:

All modern trains are multi-million dollar machines. Rail unions starting from the oldest systems like the New York and London Undergrounds to newest German and French systems have insisted that drivers remain for safety. In a closed network its been proven that drivers are not needed. Now we are in an horrible position where we have trains with all kinds of automated features that run with drivers that let their guards down. At least for high speed rail the “drivers” should all be in a control center so they can see the entire system, let software drive the trains and override when necessary. In addition a central control center would allow drivers to manage multiple trains with backup eyes, managers and supervision. And they would work proper 4-5 hour shifts and be home every night versus long back to back shifts away from home.

The train should have a safety officer stationed on board to override systems – not drive the train.

This has been written up in numerous engineering publications as the way to operate high speed rail but unions don’t like it.

I know the trains are much safer than cars but they can be safer.

Jul 25, 2013 10:30am EDT  --  Report as abuse
fact139 wrote:

It’s almost comical, that despite the widespread deification of machines, so many people believe that we are still living in the era of Casey Jones and that these high-speed trains are under the control of human beings and not operated by automated computerized systems.
Of course the coverup began immediately and a human patsy is being selected in order to preserve the public’s faith in the current state religion: Technology über alles.
Google: Expert baffled by why safety system did not slow down Spanish train

Jul 25, 2013 10:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Anti-Left wrote:

“……why failsafe security devices to keep speed within permitted limits had not worked.”

They are usually tied off or somehow overridden by goof-ball drivers.

Jul 25, 2013 10:37am EDT  --  Report as abuse
jimdoogan wrote:

dd606 writes: “It doesn’t look that bad from the video…”

Is this a joke? The train careers off the tracks at very high speed, several cars crash head on into the wall, and the pile up still moving very quickly as it skids considerable distance into the camera and likely continued in that fashion for a good distance later.

Jul 25, 2013 10:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Joseph.K wrote:

My condolences and prayers are with the families of the affected by this tragedy. Let us pray to St.James to give strength to the failies.

Jul 25, 2013 10:44am EDT  --  Report as abuse
crimson68 wrote:

dd606: didn’t look that bad? Trains are not supposed to fly in the air – this was as bad as it could get.

Jul 25, 2013 11:15am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bob_Oscar wrote:

Im sure drugs or alcohol were not involved…/sarc…

Jul 25, 2013 11:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BurbankBurner wrote:

So called “austerity” is NOT the reason for Spain’s long running recession. The previous eight years of socialism and incompetent rule by the moron before Rajoy IS the reason. Socialism ALWAYS destroys economies. The only stupid part of “austerity” is raising taxes. Cutting government spending is good policy. Government spending does not create wealth.

Jul 25, 2013 12:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BurbankBurner wrote:

So called “austerity” is NOT the reason for Spain’s long running recession. The previous eight years of socialism and incompetent rule by the moron before Rajoy IS the reason. Socialism ALWAYS destroys economies. The only stupid part of “austerity” is raising taxes. Cutting government spending is good policy. Government spending does not create wealth.

Jul 25, 2013 12:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BurbankBurner wrote:

So called “austerity” is NOT the reason for Spain’s long running recession. The previous eight years of socialism and incompetent rule by the moron before Rajoy IS the reason. Socialism ALWAYS destroys economies. The only stupid part of “austerity” is raising taxes. Cutting government spending is good policy. Government spending does not create wealth.

Jul 25, 2013 12:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Karl001 wrote:

“I’m going off the rails on the Crazy Train!”

-Ozzy

Jul 25, 2013 12:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jason147 wrote:

Wrong: Government spending DOES create wealth for the few that are well connected. The rest of the population is not so fortunate.

Socialism/Communism/Government Control always lead to economic waste, weak economies, and eventual poverty for all (except for the few in power). The rest become slaves to the state. Many go hungry. Many die, are killed, or imprisoned.

Be Pro-Choice … Be a Capitalist.

It is capitalism that has created more wealth, freedom, liberty, food, and joy than any other system ever to exist on earth ( after Eden ).

Jul 25, 2013 1:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hitmon wrote:

Speed kills!

Jul 25, 2013 1:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
CF137 wrote:

Did I just read that right?. The train was going 120mph on a curve that was only rated for 50mph? It’s shocking that something like this can even happen in the year 2013….as well as that plane crash in SFO, and that train catastrophe in Canada. I guess it’s just more proof that “smart” technology is making the human race dumber.

Jul 25, 2013 2:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

The further back the riders, the worse they fared. Sit up front, at least you can holler at the driver if he’s going too fast.

Jul 25, 2013 3:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dd606 wrote:

@jimdoogan – Relax… The first video they had posted just showed it sitting there. It wasn’t the one that actually showed it crashing.

Jul 25, 2013 3:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
akcoins wrote:

BurbankBurner shouldn’t you be over at fox news? This is not a political story. If you want to spout your political views go to some other story that involves politics.

Jul 25, 2013 3:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
boccabum wrote:

dd606 wrote:
“That’s terrible. It doesn’t really look that bad from the video, but I guess that can be misleading.”

Did you even watch the same video as the rest of us? That’s probably the worst crash I’ve ever seen!!

Jul 25, 2013 3:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dazed2 wrote:

I just watched the video & it’s very disturbing. I guess governors will be needed to keep conductors from going twice the allowed speeds. My heart goes out to the victims & their families.

Jul 25, 2013 3:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlfredHardy wrote:

“while hotels organized free rooms for relatives”

In San Francisco, after the airline crash, the hotels were criticized for raising the rates. Hmmmmmm

Jul 25, 2013 3:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
readingyou wrote:

I hate to sound sexist–I really do–but maybe women should be driving these trains. Men too often tend to equate masculinity with speed. While women can be emotional drivers, too, I suspect they are far less likely to speed, especially with so many lives in their hands.

Jul 25, 2013 8:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
wildwanders wrote:

I wonder if the driver’s under guard for suicide watch. If he thought one death would weigh on him….

Jul 25, 2013 8:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
trw99 wrote:

while it is obvious he was going to fast he may have been there by slowing the train down and the carragess did not slow down and buckled into the train and left the tracks causing this disaster

you should brake before a before a bend and accelerate out of it just like a car

he did not do this and the result is a lot of people dead

on a second note while there were nothing wrong with the carrages they do lack design to save lives at speed

Jul 25, 2013 9:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Forgive me…

So, the train in Spain mainly caused pain?

Seriously though, hope to learn the cause of this soon enough. How is it possible for the damned thing to be going twice the speed limit around a tricky curve? Either the conductor was grossly negligent, or somehow the equipment malfunctioned.

Given his arrest, seems the former is more likely.

Jul 26, 2013 2:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JamVee wrote:

It’s hard to imagine a RR Engineer (driver) contemplating just how fast he can take a curve! The man must have been asleep, or totally distracted when he went into that curve at such an excessive rate of speed. Either that, or he’s a nut-case.

Jul 26, 2013 9:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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